i dont like metal or prog or whatever you would consider dream theater, but mike portnoy i feel is great because his drumming isn't stereotypical for metal. i think he could adapt and play a lot of different types of music if he wanted to.
@ShittyMcPoopyBalls shut the fuck up you kid, you dont know shit. stick to things you know about, like shit poop and balls. he doesent give one sign of coke use.
PEOPLE! just mix brands together, if sabian is too dark for you cange some cymbals to paiste, or meinl, or zildjian, (personaly for special efx use sabian.)
and zildjian and sabian are both pretty damn expensive the paragon line is like 900 and zildjians constantinople line are around the same price.
I love Zildjian to be honest, but im not gonna lie. I just got an HHX thin 18" crash, and i think im in love. PLUS, They are made in Canada! CXANADADADADNANDANDA FTW
im a zildjian guy to, personally i dont like sabian, i dont how to explain what i dont like about them, i guess they just sound too dark or something, i not saying they suck, just dont fit my style, but yes i agree zildjian is overpriced, my zht set i got were almost 400, btw those thunder rods he had at the begining are awsome for any beginer or intermediate player, they help me build my speed and power so quick, i love them, but they do take getting use too, i still highly recomend them
If you are NOT an endorsed drummer, brand whoring is stupid. There's no point in having all say, Sabian cymbals JUST because you want them to match. If you wipe all the logos off you wouldn't know the difference anyways outside of shape. What's in a brand name other than a name? Play what sounds good to your ear, not what a little bit of black ink says.
@joshdecent No, I happen to disagree. LINE whoring is stupid. Brand whoring isn't.
I have AAX, AA, and HHX cymbals. If I had all AAX, that would be stupid. Sabian doesn't always go well with Paiste, or Meinl. To have the same brand makes them more sonically harmonious. The hammering and lathing affects it, as does the proportions of bronze to silver, etc. used in the cymbals by a particular company..and Sabian does parts by hand, whereas Zildjian doesn't.
@MattM2011 The point I'm trying to make is to use your -ears- and not your eyes when picking cymbals. You are right that Sabians will likely blend other Sabians, they're also more than capable of blending with other brand cymbals if you take the time to match them. Why dig through one brand trying to find a cymbal that might not be there just to match logos when it could be right in front of you with another brand name on it?I use Vault, HH, HHX, AA, K Customs, Paiste Sigs and it blends perfect.
If you're Canadian, go with Sabian cause they're made in Canada and cheaper here. If you're American go with Zildjian cause they're cheaper there. Unless you want something specific.
Also note that endorsed players like Mike Portnoy are getting their cymbals either at a discount or for free as a marketing exposure for the brand. So, of course, when they are talking about the cymbals they will speak highly of them, and they are compensated for this with free gear and marketing of their music.
If Sabian stopped giving any of their endorsed players gear and marketing they would leave for another brand that would... Same goes for all other brands. So consider that as well.
There are many cymbal companies producing professional grade cymbals... If you don't like the sound produced by one company in their different lines of cymblas, surely you can find another that will meet your needs. Personally, I have a preference for the Zildjian K's and Paists Signatures, and I mix them around my kit as I find the sounds are complimentary to one another. My Kit: K Custom Dark Hi Hats, K Custom Ride, Sig Fast Crash, Sig Full Crash, Sig Paper Thin Crash--Records Awesome.
Personlly I would go Sabian or Zildjian, I mean I like Pasite but the set that I have (101) kind of put me off, the crash is really weak and the hats just don't have any power behind them. I know that The 101 is the cheaper set I just don't think that it would do me, the overall sound it gets.
@RhyzBell That's because Paiste 101 are the very lowest end cymbals available on the market. Alphas or even PST 5's will knock the socks off of cymbals that are double the price of them.
@silencethescreams Oh I see, thanks bro. I'm Thinking I will still buy Sabian though :) untill them I'm stick with my Cheap ones haha. But thats cool, they are alright
@ sheepbodick: Well, maybe you don't hit 'em right. You're the first one I heard saying that Paistes are unreliable. They're reliable as fuck and they have the best sound ;)
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is that an actual dream theatre song he's playing? i dont listen to em. I've had this tape ever since i started playing and i always loved this song and wanted to jam to it. if it is, can someone send me the title if it's a real song?
im interersted in the HHX and the AAX lines from sabian. Im also interested in the A customs and K custom hybrids from zildjian. naturally i would use both sabian and zildjian but i cant afford that.
ive tried some generation x ones at my friends house, in my opinion there close to hhx by sabian, and portnoy uses hhx now... if you didnt know and the gen x are a tad cheaper i think but its your kit and its all a preference thing especially with drums and cymbals so do what mike said in the vid and just go to a local music store and try out some to find a good sound
nice man. thats awesom choice. basically the best china cymbal ive heard and same with the splash, myself i'd go Hand Hammered duo ride or and HHX stage ride
o yea deffo. paiste, zildjian, sabian and now meinl are the top ones. sabians have a really good range as well. i think paiste's are slightly over priced tho
@MulletMan3108 Deff. I think that Sabian is the most inventive and almost always new cymbals. They have sounds for everything and just fit into any1's music.
i would recomend tha aax line or aa. they have metal oriented cymbals with metal in the name like the metal ride(amazing) but you can use all there upper lines for metal and sound good in death Ex. george kollias of nile
i am a zildjian guy i just love the sound. but everyone has their own choice in cymbals. sizes, styles, lathing. you just have to find the sounds you like. there is no better cymbal company. all are made of the same thing and can be played in numerous musical settings. it is all about preference. so stop with the Paiste is better, Meinl is better. there is no one cymbal company that sounds better then another. if it sounds good to you use it, and if it doesnt dont use it find something else.
@taylorgretsch i totally agree. price or prestige doesnt matter, YOUR SOUND MATTERS! i could care less about what name is on it! hell, some of my cymbals are off brands but who cares? if they sound good to u, play em!
i prefer zildjian over sabian. not by much tho. the only reason why i have grown faund of zildjian was cuz of the z custom line......WHICH R NOW FUCKING GONE!! haha, now they have z3. which in my opinion, arent half bad. but if it wasnt for z custom and some avedis and a custom, id still be buying aax and aa cymbals. i prefer those for sabian. but the bottom line is, acually i have no lcue what the bottom line is hahaha. i just felt like putting that. haha but thats just my opinion....
yeah paiste is way underrated i really love paistes but for some reason its just not like the same as with a sabian for me at least ive tried lots of different paistes and lots of sabians and i can't even say what is is about the sabians that i like better but just something about them i like a little bit more but im not dumb i wouldnt mind a paiste cymbal sponsorship damn those are really great cymbals
now that you say that i guess thats it its just not even something that i can like name what i like better about them just like after playing sabians, it feels wrong sitting down to a set and playing anything else but that makes sense now that you say that but i just love sabians soo much more than anythin else
Paiste are the way. They are the most consitent sounding cymbals. If you break one, you can usualy get the same cymbal with almost the identical sound. Paiste Rules! 2002 series is my fav.
this guy writes REALLY cool stuff. I cant decide on a ride. A Sabian 22" apx solid ride a Paiste 22" alpha metal ride OR a Meinl 20" mb10 bell blast ride
Between the Meinl and the PAiste. Depends on what music you play, too. Meinl is going to be more for rock and heavier stuff, while the alpha is more versatile, and will have a deeper tone. APX is terrible. Honestly, B8 is better.
well chris adler (lamb of god) uses the meinl (he helped develop it in fact) so it'll be for more metal type stuff. but so will the sabian seeing as the apx series is designed for metal. and paiste alpha is edorsed by joey jordison...
its a tough coice but i'd go with the sabian cause IMO sabians have a sort of warmish feel that i love in cymbals. thats just me though.
on the site and in the ad it shows aax being aimed at "modern bright" players and is endorsed more famously (other than ray maygora) by people like daniel adair.
apx shows a much more metal style themed with pore metal drummers.
besides the point the idea for the explosive sound was most probably thought out with metal in mind more so than modern bright
if any one knows is there a zildjian crash that has a similar or exactly same sound as the sabian 18" HHX Studio Crash its really pissing me off i cant find a cymbal to complement my zildjian 18" medium-thin crash
and also cause he is a percusionist, need to read the credits moron!, drums and percusion( look out at wikipedia whats a percusionist)...dumb your mother! make u so stupid
that was awesome i like sabian a lot and i was lucky enough to build the same kit before price got sky rocket i ended up paying $15,000 took me 3 years and its almost the same kit but it's not a tama kit it's a pearl so that actually counts a lot tama it's much more money but i got the same kit with a few extras my biggest mike portnoy rip off but what the hell ..........
theyre hot rods as used by dave grohl in nirvana unplugged,kinda like wooden brushes,lighter than normal sticks but harder than brushes,flix also do platic versions for various styles
i have to agree with bryce..the kit exceeds at least 30g's hands down! i live down the street from a studio in bmt, tx..and inside i noticed how much tama's prices went up on just their accessories..much more than that, their kits. its outrageous! $75 for just a tom clamp! f*** that, ill shop GC's website.
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I like Portnoy, he's probably the most skilled drummer that i can think of. Still i like Joey Jordison more... Why? Because i prefer the music he plays, i practice SlipKnoT songs everyday, I also like The Rev from A7X and i play "Afterlife" like 5 times in a row.
to make it short... I like joey more than any other drummer. There is drummers who are more skilled than him as Portnoy, Porcaro, Peart and other. Still i like joey because of the music he plays, thats just my style.
at least someone is firm in the drummer he likes most of the drummers I know suitch their favorite drummers like every month or so...but I dont have a favorite...I have favorites like ...Mike, Peart, Jordison...Svenson...and so on...
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I don't think portnoy is more skilled than joey, their just musically different, furthermore I dare to say joey could be better than mike because I've read he also plays big-band music and IMO he has improved (technically and musically) without losing his style from the first slipknot albums to AHIG, on the other hand portnoy (IMO) hasn't shown much improvement since FII (except for LT and Transatlantic), don't get me wrong, I love his playing, he is 1 of my fav drummers still.
How can you even compare Joye to Mike Portnoy... Mike Portnoy has revolutionized double bass drumss/precussion playing he took Neil Perts work further ahead Joye is alright but comparison is a silly thing and the type of musician/drummer Mike is I dare not compare him to anyone he is Mike Portnoy end of story :)
@Monoloconwhisky D: WTF It's been 2 years since this comment and I find it really unnecesary now LOL, I'm glad I find myself to be a little more open minded now, sorry guys.
yea it pisses me off aswell when ignorant people think drummers such as Joey Jordison and Travis Barker are the best, you people obviously don't know anything if you haven't heard of drummers like Mike portnoy, Terry Bozzio, Chris Adler( who is like Joey but better), and George Kollias (also like Joey but better)
so do i lol, i don't get as mad when people say that joey's good though cause i like slipknot and he admits that he isn't the greatest drummer ever on one of his videos, but hes still good, however travis barker is a piece of shit.
I am truly annoyed when i see a comments hailing joey and others of his kind. The drummers that are out there can kick joey's ass and beat him to death !! I mean, really, i consider it a federal violation to even talk about him when i could be discusing about gavin harisson,dave weckl,omar hakim,steve gadd,steve smith and a whole bunch of others.Joey is just a metal drummer, nothing more,nothing less.The sooner every immature kid realises that, the better for himself and for every other !!!
thats because they are main stream, fame has nothing to do with skill. there are probably underground societies that revolve around the drum set that teach their people to be 20 times better than neil peart, buddy rich , and mike portnoy. they could be out there.
Famous, yes. Talented? NO AT ALL. Mike Portnoy would take a shit on them with just a snare and a crash. Joey and Travis to be in the top 1000 drummers. Shitknot and Cunt 182 suck balls anyways.
i'm getting octobans this christmas. CAN''T WAIT.... And I have an HD high quality drum camera. This shall be great folks.
OneTakeJesus 1 month ago
Drawing lines in the SAAAANNDD!!!
anthrmthrfckr 3 months ago
i dont like metal or prog or whatever you would consider dream theater, but mike portnoy i feel is great because his drumming isn't stereotypical for metal. i think he could adapt and play a lot of different types of music if he wanted to.
austin78993 4 months ago
Totally coked out in this video.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 6 months ago
@ShittyMcPoopyBalls shut the fuck up you kid, you dont know shit. stick to things you know about, like shit poop and balls. he doesent give one sign of coke use.
axllovesslash 5 months ago
@axllovesslash Overreaction. Calm the fuck down.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 5 months ago
@ShittyMcPoopyBalls ...coming from shittymcpoopyballs... grow up
axllovesslash 5 months ago
@axllovesslash no
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 5 months ago
@axllovesslash What are you talking about. That is one of the greatest usernames known to man.
OneTakeJesus 1 month ago
@axllovesslash Stop being immature axllovesslas
XxStrongDrums1996xX 1 month ago
b8s hehe the only ones i can afford
german80 8 months ago
@german80 story of my life
passion4drums 7 months ago
this is an old video, over 10 years old. If you notice, he's playing on the purple monster, which he used in the late 90s.
paisteuser06 1 year ago
hey does anyone know what's the model of his sabian hi hat?
The15rocker 1 year ago
@The15rocker 14" AAX Stage hats
CrawfordDrummer 1 year ago
Please someone can tell me the name of the song at 2:00 .
OMG 0:40 the hi hat its so brilliant sounds great WITH MIKE !! PLEASE TELL THE NAME :)
vincecu1 1 year ago
@vincecu1 Lines in the Sand from Falling Into Infiniti and AAX Stage hats 14"
CrawfordDrummer 1 year ago
@vincecu1 Dream Theater - Lines in the Sand
bozzioisgod44 1 year ago
esta re fumadooo!! ajajajajjaja
tecabealf 1 year ago
PEOPLE! just mix brands together, if sabian is too dark for you cange some cymbals to paiste, or meinl, or zildjian, (personaly for special efx use sabian.)
and zildjian and sabian are both pretty damn expensive the paragon line is like 900 and zildjians constantinople line are around the same price.
shakakamooroar 1 year ago
I love Zildjian to be honest, but im not gonna lie. I just got an HHX thin 18" crash, and i think im in love. PLUS, They are made in Canada! CXANADADADADNANDANDA FTW
TopTenMusicChannel 1 year ago
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DTxOctavariumx 10 months ago
Amazing..what he can do with his hands
vankabel 1 year ago
im a zildjian guy to, personally i dont like sabian, i dont how to explain what i dont like about them, i guess they just sound too dark or something, i not saying they suck, just dont fit my style, but yes i agree zildjian is overpriced, my zht set i got were almost 400, btw those thunder rods he had at the begining are awsome for any beginer or intermediate player, they help me build my speed and power so quick, i love them, but they do take getting use too, i still highly recomend them
geoblackwell1953 1 year ago
If you are NOT an endorsed drummer, brand whoring is stupid. There's no point in having all say, Sabian cymbals JUST because you want them to match. If you wipe all the logos off you wouldn't know the difference anyways outside of shape. What's in a brand name other than a name? Play what sounds good to your ear, not what a little bit of black ink says.
joshdecent 1 year ago
@joshdecent No, I happen to disagree. LINE whoring is stupid. Brand whoring isn't.
I have AAX, AA, and HHX cymbals. If I had all AAX, that would be stupid. Sabian doesn't always go well with Paiste, or Meinl. To have the same brand makes them more sonically harmonious. The hammering and lathing affects it, as does the proportions of bronze to silver, etc. used in the cymbals by a particular company..and Sabian does parts by hand, whereas Zildjian doesn't.
MattM2011 1 year ago
@MattM2011 The point I'm trying to make is to use your -ears- and not your eyes when picking cymbals. You are right that Sabians will likely blend other Sabians, they're also more than capable of blending with other brand cymbals if you take the time to match them. Why dig through one brand trying to find a cymbal that might not be there just to match logos when it could be right in front of you with another brand name on it?I use Vault, HH, HHX, AA, K Customs, Paiste Sigs and it blends perfect.
joshdecent 1 year ago
Portnoys overrated!,
Aheadstix85 1 year ago
If you're Canadian, go with Sabian cause they're made in Canada and cheaper here. If you're American go with Zildjian cause they're cheaper there. Unless you want something specific.
gokumaniac 1 year ago
@gokumaniac Disagree. Zildjian is generally more expensive than Sabian.
MattM2011 1 year ago
arghhh i have that song, but i forgot the name. anyone?
jaydendrums111 1 year ago
Also note that endorsed players like Mike Portnoy are getting their cymbals either at a discount or for free as a marketing exposure for the brand. So, of course, when they are talking about the cymbals they will speak highly of them, and they are compensated for this with free gear and marketing of their music.
If Sabian stopped giving any of their endorsed players gear and marketing they would leave for another brand that would... Same goes for all other brands. So consider that as well.
russdonruss 1 year ago
@russdonruss Yes, but they're not going to LIE about them. What they say IS true. They just make it seem to be THE best at the time.
MattM2011 1 year ago
There are many cymbal companies producing professional grade cymbals... If you don't like the sound produced by one company in their different lines of cymblas, surely you can find another that will meet your needs. Personally, I have a preference for the Zildjian K's and Paists Signatures, and I mix them around my kit as I find the sounds are complimentary to one another. My Kit: K Custom Dark Hi Hats, K Custom Ride, Sig Fast Crash, Sig Full Crash, Sig Paper Thin Crash--Records Awesome.
russdonruss 1 year ago
Personlly I would go Sabian or Zildjian, I mean I like Pasite but the set that I have (101) kind of put me off, the crash is really weak and the hats just don't have any power behind them. I know that The 101 is the cheaper set I just don't think that it would do me, the overall sound it gets.
RhyzBell 1 year ago
@RhyzBell That's because Paiste 101 are the very lowest end cymbals available on the market. Alphas or even PST 5's will knock the socks off of cymbals that are double the price of them.
silencethescreams 1 year ago
@silencethescreams Oh I see, thanks bro. I'm Thinking I will still buy Sabian though :) untill them I'm stick with my Cheap ones haha. But thats cool, they are alright
RhyzBell 1 year ago
zildjian and saibain are nearly the same made by two brothers paiste are ver unreliable they cracked on me the whole time
sheepbodick 1 year ago
@ sheepbodick: Well, maybe you don't hit 'em right. You're the first one I heard saying that Paistes are unreliable. They're reliable as fuck and they have the best sound ;)
Gargiuloth2 1 year ago
i like Sabians best too. I had Zildjians for a while but they were SUPER thick. i went thru a lot of sticks with em >:|
woodgateski 1 year ago
I like Sabians, but my favorites are pAisTe cymbals. For some, reason I can't really like Zildjians .____.
Gargiuloth2 1 year ago
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deagla2 1 year ago
lol i dont like em either
hollowuzi4life 1 year ago
PaiSte's are the best choice out there i hate meinl
BunnyCareyTool 1 year ago
Does Mike Portnoy have a jazz background? I can hear it in his playing.
theshoe124 1 year ago
@theshoe124 Yeah he played in jazz band for four years in high school and studied some of it in berklee
CrawfordDrummer 1 year ago
2:25-2:32 is pretty badass
T93X420 1 year ago
what are those crashes in this video??
martin7viola 2 years ago
could someone please tell me what ride mike used on scenes from a memory?.. cheers.
brettenator 2 years ago
22'' hh rock ride
critacclaimband 2 years ago
is that an actual dream theatre song he's playing? i dont listen to em. I've had this tape ever since i started playing and i always loved this song and wanted to jam to it. if it is, can someone send me the title if it's a real song?
NegativeOutlook4 2 years ago
im trying to decide between zildjian or sabian. can anybody help?
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
Bolth are very good but my personal choice would be sabian, i like the sound alot better.
MyNameIsEarl6394 2 years ago
im interersted in the HHX and the AAX lines from sabian. Im also interested in the A customs and K custom hybrids from zildjian. naturally i would use both sabian and zildjian but i cant afford that.
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
I have two drum kits one has all zildjian and the other all sabian bolth are very good but the sabians were a cheaper buy but still good quality.
MyNameIsEarl6394 2 years ago
would you recommend the AAX and HHX cymbals to a metal drummer?
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
definitely
MyNameIsEarl6394 2 years ago
oh cuz i was going to get zildjian bercuz of their Z customs, A customs, and K customs
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
Its all based on preference i personly like sabian more but you should just tst them out.
MyNameIsEarl6394 2 years ago
yea i will probly go to a store this week and see what splash cymbal i want for chrismas
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
my self i would choose sabian. you also shouldnt count out meinl there a legit company as well
critacclaimband 2 years ago
@critacclaimband arent meinls expensive? or is that the other company
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
not really that exspensive well not where ive seen them
critacclaimband 2 years ago
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mattliebl6199 2 years ago
if i where to get meinls what line of cymbals can play metal?
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
ive tried some generation x ones at my friends house, in my opinion there close to hhx by sabian, and portnoy uses hhx now... if you didnt know and the gen x are a tad cheaper i think but its your kit and its all a preference thing especially with drums and cymbals so do what mike said in the vid and just go to a local music store and try out some to find a good sound
critacclaimband 2 years ago
=D i think ive finally been able to decide what cymbals im getting.
16" AA Thin Crash
21" AAX Stage Ride
18" HHX Chinese
10" HHX Splash
What do you think?
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
nice man. thats awesom choice. basically the best china cymbal ive heard and same with the splash, myself i'd go Hand Hammered duo ride or and HHX stage ride
critacclaimband 2 years ago
@critacclaimband i will look atr those as well. im trying to get 1 crash, 1 ride, 1 splash, and 1 china
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
good range of sounds- but not too diverse. they all compliment eachother well- nice choice
MulletMan3108 2 years ago
@MulletMan3108 alrite cool
mattliebl6199 2 years ago
paiste are in general the more expensive ones. but imo- they are the better ones. paiste signature are awesome
MulletMan3108 2 years ago
@MulletMan3108 would sabian still be a good brand to get some cymbals from?
mattliebl6199 2 years ago 2
o yea deffo. paiste, zildjian, sabian and now meinl are the top ones. sabians have a really good range as well. i think paiste's are slightly over priced tho
MulletMan3108 2 years ago 2
@MulletMan3108 Deff. I think that Sabian is the most inventive and almost always new cymbals. They have sounds for everything and just fit into any1's music.
metaldrummer47 1 month ago
2:00 choooooooooooon. great cymbals
pauljacksonmusic 2 years ago
what sabian cymbals do you guys think it would be perfect to play death metal? anybody please!
makingmayhem678 2 years ago
i would recomend tha aax line or aa. they have metal oriented cymbals with metal in the name like the metal ride(amazing) but you can use all there upper lines for metal and sound good in death Ex. george kollias of nile
Metalheaddrumer303 2 years ago
i would recomend sabian aa metal x or sabian HH they have very good tone ando powerful,,sabian HH has the power bell ride:D and great other cymbals
imabitch4u 2 years ago
The AAX line is really well suited for metal. Especially the AAXplosion crashes.
Coreyf24 2 years ago
the purple monster is my favorite kit!!!!
whammybarfreak 2 years ago
My favorite of all of the drum kits he has played!
steve311rocks 2 years ago
i prefer the albino monster, its so awesome xD
JamesTheWench 2 years ago
me too!!!
drummernickm 2 years ago
It's "Lines In The Sand" from the Falling Into Infinity album.
substrate001 2 years ago
What's the song around 2:00?
Francesco2cece 2 years ago
I prefer Paiste!!!!!!!!!!
LeoPriester 2 years ago
i am a zildjian guy i just love the sound. but everyone has their own choice in cymbals. sizes, styles, lathing. you just have to find the sounds you like. there is no better cymbal company. all are made of the same thing and can be played in numerous musical settings. it is all about preference. so stop with the Paiste is better, Meinl is better. there is no one cymbal company that sounds better then another. if it sounds good to you use it, and if it doesnt dont use it find something else.
taylorgretsch 2 years ago 40
@taylorgretsch
I'm a big SABIAN fan but whta you just said completely makes sense...
monocubas 1 year ago
@taylorgretsch i totally agree. price or prestige doesnt matter, YOUR SOUND MATTERS! i could care less about what name is on it! hell, some of my cymbals are off brands but who cares? if they sound good to u, play em!
mikecohn4000 1 year ago
what you guys thing about the AA Metal-X ones...
eagonzalezq 2 years ago
what is the song he is playing at the end?
olliemedsy 2 years ago
How i love that time when Mike tried and was one of the most creative drummers in the progressive genre
Hexagesta 2 years ago
i prefer zildjian over sabian. not by much tho. the only reason why i have grown faund of zildjian was cuz of the z custom line......WHICH R NOW FUCKING GONE!! haha, now they have z3. which in my opinion, arent half bad. but if it wasnt for z custom and some avedis and a custom, id still be buying aax and aa cymbals. i prefer those for sabian. but the bottom line is, acually i have no lcue what the bottom line is hahaha. i just felt like putting that. haha but thats just my opinion....
DWdrummer57 2 years ago
PAISTE!!!!!!!!
imton13 2 years ago
ZILDJIAN
Derjumba2forever 2 years ago
i bought most of my aax in about 95/96... most still very solid sound now... i have replaced some of the smaller cymbals over the years
hauntedchapel1 2 years ago
sabian AAX!!!!!
sharkyman66 2 years ago 24
@sharkyman66 what type of aax cymbals do you like the most?
shockwave2468 1 year ago
@sharkyman66
Sabian HH!!!
DrumCoalitionWithWar 1 year ago
i think meinl mb20's are the best metal cymbals
ronnoc357 2 years ago
Oh, I thought all cymbals were metal. Hmmm....
Paitsch 2 years ago 3
yeah paiste is way underrated i really love paistes but for some reason its just not like the same as with a sabian for me at least ive tried lots of different paistes and lots of sabians and i can't even say what is is about the sabians that i like better but just something about them i like a little bit more but im not dumb i wouldnt mind a paiste cymbal sponsorship damn those are really great cymbals
MegadetH179 2 years ago
i agree with you completely. i think the thing that make sabian better is the warm, more human tone thats hard to find in a cymbal.
metalmanky306 2 years ago
now that you say that i guess thats it its just not even something that i can like name what i like better about them just like after playing sabians, it feels wrong sitting down to a set and playing anything else but that makes sense now that you say that but i just love sabians soo much more than anythin else
MegadetH179 2 years ago
same :D
metalmanky306 2 years ago
Thing with Sabians is that each one is hand made a unique.
Drummerwithagroove 2 years ago
I suck at drums. Simple beats and terrible fill ins.
Riptidescool 2 years ago
yh i think paiste are the best man there so quality
jameswilliamstafford 2 years ago
as much as I like Sabian cymbals I still prefer Paiste more...
ExtremeSkippingFan 2 years ago
Paiste are the way. They are the most consitent sounding cymbals. If you break one, you can usualy get the same cymbal with almost the identical sound. Paiste Rules! 2002 series is my fav.
ig315 2 years ago
yeah dude, they're more expensive, handmade, they not only make cymbals they make, gongs chimes, bells, a whole ton of sounds.
Paiste has really outdone ANY cymbal company out there and yet they are so underrated. I hate it.
im into the twenties and signatures
ExtremeSkippingFan 2 years ago
Wow dude. People are idiots. You said you liked Sabian, but prefer Paiste. People are misunderstanding your comment and voting thumbs down.
Everyone he likes Sabian AND Paiste
DestroyAndVoid18 2 years ago
haha, people are retarted x]
ExtremeSkippingFan 2 years ago
Extremely xD
DestroyAndVoid18 2 years ago
What song is he playing at the end?
Cr1msonKing 2 years ago
Lines In The sand, from the album Falling Into Infinity.
ryanyunck 2 years ago
I want sabian cymbal so badly :D
anash258 2 years ago
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Why does he have to look like an idiot though?
Neptune0100 2 years ago
you have no room to talk
joeyjordisonlk18 2 years ago 4
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No really though. The guy looks like a complete douchebag in this video.
Neptune0100 2 years ago
I'm not a big fan of Sabian, but I really like those primary hats he's playing =]
xBadOmen 2 years ago
this guy writes REALLY cool stuff. I cant decide on a ride. A Sabian 22" apx solid ride a Paiste 22" alpha metal ride OR a Meinl 20" mb10 bell blast ride
Drummerguy6666 2 years ago
Between the Meinl and the PAiste. Depends on what music you play, too. Meinl is going to be more for rock and heavier stuff, while the alpha is more versatile, and will have a deeper tone. APX is terrible. Honestly, B8 is better.
a1gold174 2 years ago
APX is the loudest and easiest to record of those three.
spurious 2 years ago
well chris adler (lamb of god) uses the meinl (he helped develop it in fact) so it'll be for more metal type stuff. but so will the sabian seeing as the apx series is designed for metal. and paiste alpha is edorsed by joey jordison...
its a tough coice but i'd go with the sabian cause IMO sabians have a sort of warmish feel that i love in cymbals. thats just me though.
metalmanky306 2 years ago
actually aax is for metal, apx is for explosive effects.
dontreadreplys 2 years ago
on the site and in the ad it shows aax being aimed at "modern bright" players and is endorsed more famously (other than ray maygora) by people like daniel adair.
apx shows a much more metal style themed with pore metal drummers.
besides the point the idea for the explosive sound was most probably thought out with metal in mind more so than modern bright
metalmanky306 2 years ago
if any one knows is there a zildjian crash that has a similar or exactly same sound as the sabian 18" HHX Studio Crash its really pissing me off i cant find a cymbal to complement my zildjian 18" medium-thin crash
drummerboy6666 2 years ago
what cymbal is he using at 00:18?
xLEVIxBADASSx 2 years ago
it's a stack. a small china on a splash. and thats his own signature cymbal. it's a Max Stax 10"
Insectamongus 2 years ago
and also cause he is a percusionist, need to read the credits moron!, drums and percusion( look out at wikipedia whats a percusionist)...dumb your mother! make u so stupid
bonzopersonal 2 years ago
u can do more stuff on a 9 pice than a 5
aircannonmaster 2 years ago
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Why the fuck does he need such a big ass kit its so dumb dude...
I like lil 5-7 peice kits
VicenteKidd 2 years ago
7 isnt small dude. 3 or 4 is small
ameliorate2695 2 years ago
compared to that big ass shit yeah it is..
VicenteKidd 2 years ago
More pieces = more timbres.
It adds to the musicality, and prog rock is ALL about maximum musicality.
StufftMusic 2 years ago
You're exactly right. I'm in a prog rock/metal band and I've got the same cymbal set up as him except for the two stacks he's got and the chime set.
windexfighter77 2 years ago
VicenteKidd, cause he can pay big kits...
MaIcOl01 2 years ago
what hats does he use in this video??
loganswilly 2 years ago
2:00 what song is?
gusguisyus 2 years ago
lines in the sand
grindfuck3r 2 years ago
look like ray charles on drums with his glasses
lilboyjames 2 years ago
parece un serbio traficante de armas
ganimedes91 2 years ago
that was awesome i like sabian a lot and i was lucky enough to build the same kit before price got sky rocket i ended up paying $15,000 took me 3 years and its almost the same kit but it's not a tama kit it's a pearl so that actually counts a lot tama it's much more money but i got the same kit with a few extras my biggest mike portnoy rip off but what the hell ..........
torrefuerte 2 years ago
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zildjian is so much better than sabian
AtomicPicturesAP 2 years ago
hahaha, u fail
beholdthebubbler 2 years ago
YUP, EPIC FAIL.
Sk8Master227 2 years ago
what is that stick his using?
lalali2323 2 years ago
theyre hot rods as used by dave grohl in nirvana unplugged,kinda like wooden brushes,lighter than normal sticks but harder than brushes,flix also do platic versions for various styles
drumdemon3 2 years ago
They're also called Reeds.
hangomega 2 years ago
i have to agree with bryce..the kit exceeds at least 30g's hands down! i live down the street from a studio in bmt, tx..and inside i noticed how much tama's prices went up on just their accessories..much more than that, their kits. its outrageous! $75 for just a tom clamp! f*** that, ill shop GC's website.
Eleanor3386 2 years ago
If you somehow contacted Sabian and Tama to get a kit and cymbals exactly like this, it would be worth some where between $20,000 to $30,000.
BryceButler2 2 years ago
Fuck, there goes my dream kit Haha
BCDPRODUCTIONS1234 2 years ago
get signed first then its all free
fluentinsound 2 years ago
my dream is to buy this awsome kit. do u guys knw how much is cost.
amirudinali 2 years ago
i cant stand joey, but that's just me.
pooper589 3 years ago
I like him, he is a fine player.
grouchotrilo 3 years ago
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Hmm lets see.
I like Portnoy, he's probably the most skilled drummer that i can think of. Still i like Joey Jordison more... Why? Because i prefer the music he plays, i practice SlipKnoT songs everyday, I also like The Rev from A7X and i play "Afterlife" like 5 times in a row.
to make it short... I like joey more than any other drummer. There is drummers who are more skilled than him as Portnoy, Porcaro, Peart and other. Still i like joey because of the music he plays, thats just my style.
emppurova 3 years ago
at least someone is firm in the drummer he likes most of the drummers I know suitch their favorite drummers like every month or so...but I dont have a favorite...I have favorites like ...Mike, Peart, Jordison...Svenson...and so on...
THATS JUST ME :)
deathdrummer196 3 years ago
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I don't think portnoy is more skilled than joey, their just musically different, furthermore I dare to say joey could be better than mike because I've read he also plays big-band music and IMO he has improved (technically and musically) without losing his style from the first slipknot albums to AHIG, on the other hand portnoy (IMO) hasn't shown much improvement since FII (except for LT and Transatlantic), don't get me wrong, I love his playing, he is 1 of my fav drummers still.
Monoloconwhisky 2 years ago
That was a really good answer I think.
emppurova 2 years ago
How can you even compare Joye to Mike Portnoy... Mike Portnoy has revolutionized double bass drumss/precussion playing he took Neil Perts work further ahead Joye is alright but comparison is a silly thing and the type of musician/drummer Mike is I dare not compare him to anyone he is Mike Portnoy end of story :)
immortalsoloist 2 years ago 2
@Monoloconwhisky D: WTF It's been 2 years since this comment and I find it really unnecesary now LOL, I'm glad I find myself to be a little more open minded now, sorry guys.
Keep Drumming.
Monoloconwhisky 6 months ago
BennyBennis knows his stuff, Kollias does not come up that often when talking about awesome drummers, but he is something else.
jburger360 3 years ago
yea it pisses me off aswell when ignorant people think drummers such as Joey Jordison and Travis Barker are the best, you people obviously don't know anything if you haven't heard of drummers like Mike portnoy, Terry Bozzio, Chris Adler( who is like Joey but better), and George Kollias (also like Joey but better)
BennyBennis 3 years ago 4
I want to snap someone's neck whenever I hear Travis Barker..
kaifinero 2 years ago 3
so do i lol, i don't get as mad when people say that joey's good though cause i like slipknot and he admits that he isn't the greatest drummer ever on one of his videos, but hes still good, however travis barker is a piece of shit.
BennyBennis 2 years ago
I am truly annoyed when i see a comments hailing joey and others of his kind. The drummers that are out there can kick joey's ass and beat him to death !! I mean, really, i consider it a federal violation to even talk about him when i could be discusing about gavin harisson,dave weckl,omar hakim,steve gadd,steve smith and a whole bunch of others.Joey is just a metal drummer, nothing more,nothing less.The sooner every immature kid realises that, the better for himself and for every other !!!
karafliazwproora 3 years ago
You stole my speech; nicely utilized too I might add.
Symmetry44 3 years ago
Haha !! thank's ;)
karafliazwproora 3 years ago
thats because they are main stream, fame has nothing to do with skill. there are probably underground societies that revolve around the drum set that teach their people to be 20 times better than neil peart, buddy rich , and mike portnoy. they could be out there.
drumpower8510 3 years ago
Sorry to interupt your guys' debate (even though the guy who likes travis and joey is a fuckin idiot=])
Anyone have the year on this video? or at least after/before which album?
thesilentcircus789 3 years ago 4
His kit is the Scenes From A Memory kit (the Purple Monster), so I suppose around 1999-2000.
poboproductions 3 years ago
I was thinkin that too, thanks :)
thesilentcircus789 3 years ago
hha exactly
123mcquade123 3 years ago
Famous, yes. Talented? NO AT ALL. Mike Portnoy would take a shit on them with just a snare and a crash. Joey and Travis to be in the top 1000 drummers. Shitknot and Cunt 182 suck balls anyways.
explodingpimp 3 years ago
And you think popularity and fame makes the drummers good?
Sigurdgsa 3 years ago 8
your an idiot, have you see Joey's kit lately?
Yeah Travis and Joey are good drummers but they can touch Portnoy, and I am an openly known Maggot so I'm not hating joey.
BenjaminxkNight 3 years ago