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  • Its really sad to see the frustration and bitterness of these girls its truly consuming there precious lives and its totally futile getting it into there stubborn mothers head of the damage shes done.

  • everyone is selfish is a way

  • @quest8899 yes but there are sertain extents of selfishness

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  • fuck these paragraph-long comments...

  • @Murphie0001 agree. I'm too lazy to read them :p

  • I have enough experience and brains to tell an egoist and a selfish person now from a mile away:)) I have learned my lesson and now that I have I am better for it. The worst thing would be for me to be disappointed with the whole male culture. To lump all men as selfish, sex maniacs, who cheat, take up guns and wreak war, invade countries, rape and torture, have paedophillic desires... I could generalize too. What would you say then? How does one defend oneself from generalizations?

  • Do men perceive young women to be selfish? Google;

    "Why young men are avoiding marriage"

    Educate yourself.

  • And I am a female:) Both my parents were well educated, disciplined, hard working and responsible and loving. Loyal to each other, mature and for the most part, selfless when it came to us.

  • FELLA'S

    Take a lesson from this. Some poor bastard spent his life with this selfish woman and is now probably in an early grave as a result. Many women are selfish, users and takers and will manipulate a man his entire life. There is only one person who can stop it from happening. you!

    If your dating a selfish woman and you know it you can spend your life being controlled with a little sex in the beginning and then none later or you can be a man and walk away.

  • @embracingreality Pardon me for interjecting a little extra reality to your statement sir, but there are many selfish men who only want sex out of the relationship and the minute the attention is taken away from them (ie, financial problems, children, work/life stress), they act like little selfish brats and go out and cheat. So to correct you, you are right for most of it, many men AND women are selfish. They miss out in the end though:))

  • @Nemogudasesetim I think your over looking a rather obvious point dear. If it wasn't for the ability of women to dispense sex men simply wouldn't pay any attention to most women at all. Far from being selfish on the part of men it's more like a burden inflicted upon us compelling us to pursue relationships that are far more responsibility, sacrifice and obligation than they ever are reward.

    Rarely is a woman a genuine friend of a man, rather they're users and takers in his life.

  • @embracingreality I would disagree sweetcheeks:)) Men dispense sex as easily and as readily as women do. I know a few men that are very materialistic and will only date girls from wealthy backgrounds. Culture plays a big part in it, so you should try and not generalise.

  • @Nemogudasesetim Men dispense sex much more readily than women, men aren't using it as a tool to obtain status or financial means like women are. It's very simple.

    Most women want a man to provide, protect, amuse, give her children, be primarily responsible to PAY for everything and occasionally sex..

    Most men want sex from a woman.

    Women using sex as a tool is the obvious result.

    Yes, wealthy men are waking up to the fact that women need to pay their own way, hence men seeking "wealthy" women.

  • Most men do not just want sex form the woman, you have very low opinions of men it seems as well as women.. geez!:)) Partnership and love is what people crave. Well at least people I choose to surround myself with, why do you waste your energy on analyzing selfish, money driven people? You need to concentrate on your own life, build principles that are important to you and do not settle for a person who does not match them. What kid of women do you associate with? Oh dear:))

  • Generalizations and hate, mistrust and cynicism cause more pain in a long run. Try and find something positive from you bad experiences and learn to avoid money-hungry gold diggers if you can:) Maybe dig a little deeper yourself, don't just go for the boobs and legs or what ever you fancy and categorize your female counterparts by, and you may find wonderful women who know how to love and understand you.

  • The reason being that apart form sex, most normal women that are not selfish (not the above), have the ability and emotional wealth to produce and raise children, bringing a lot of love and care in an otherwise competitive, often violent male world. Both parents are equally important in a child's development, and in a supportive marriage both people thrive. Much of male banter you hear at bars is only bravado, and same with women. We all need love and stability to grow and be happy.

  • @Nemogudasesetim There is no evidence that women are better parents in fact prisons are full of overwhelmingly documented products of single mothers. Lavishing children with emotion is exactly the problem. Discipline, especially self discipline is a far more critical quality to develop in life than emotion and men can teach children a better balance of both. It was in fact common practice for children to remain in a fathers primary custody after divorce prior women's lib and feminism.

  • @Nemogudasesetim As for the "love" we need to be "happy"... Apparently marriage is no longer a good place to get it. The 50% divorce rate not withstanding the marriages that somehow survive are often even worse. Statistically when asked "can you honestly describe your marriage as happy" approximately one in four can answer yes to that question.

    Single, never married, no kids and financially well off, I'm feeling pretty damn good about my state of mind.

  • @embracingreality Well good for you:) Again divorce is prevalent mostly in a western society, where men are as greedy and materialistic and callous as are the women.. these are the ills of general consumerism. You have misinterpreted my words, I did not say that women are better parents, I said that they just as men, are equally important in the hollistic development of children.

  • @Nemogudasesetim If men are just as greedy and materialistic in relationships how do you reconcile the fact that most women still expect men to pay for dates, rings, marriages and be primarily responsible financially even before having any children together? Further the fact that it is women who initiate divorce (No-fault) most of the time (70%)? Men are the ones who take the biggest risks and unfairly so, consequently single men are absconding in droves. Search "men's marriage strike" online.

  • @embracingreality Once more, it's a cultural and also our biological thing, like certain other animals that enjoy sex we humans aslo enjoy cultural, 'preening' games that are a part of our sexual beings. Some women indeed expect the things you list and some don't. Some men expect the woman to do all the household duties (including wiping their kids' bums, a friend of mine is married to an a-hole who does nothing to help with the kids as he thinks it's a woman's job).

  • Oh and by the way, the acquaintance that only dates wealthy women, he is not wealthy himself, he is educated, witty and snobby and while he does date them, I would not call him smart, I would call him pathetic and selfish..funny how you have heaps of understanding for selfish men although you seem to lump all women in the same bag. If you do not wish to date or go out with normal women, who have ambitions, dreams, education, who read and do not give into the hype around them, then don't:))

  • You are free to be single buddy, be selfish and see things from only your own perspective, take what you want and leave with what you can, do not invest into any relationships, do not water them with care and love so that they can grow. If you insist as you do that ALL women are ratbags, then that is the way it is for you:) I have friends who say the same things about men. And the funny thing is they are the very ones who always seem to find an a*hole who proves their ill projected convictions:)

  • Prisoners are 'products' as you so eloquently put it, of broken families not just single mothers, just that the Western court system leaves the children with mums, often with fathers not paying child support. It is simple to generalize, but life is more complex than that, and for every rule there are exceptions. Otherwise, people would stay in their stereotypical, bigot assigned roles all their life.

  • @Nemogudasesetim Everyone is aware that there are exceptions, no need to point it out. Discussions of human behavior are always generalizations unless someone is named, there are no names here. Evaluating a prospective partner on an individual basis and hopefully choosing wisely does NOTHING about the grotesque legal bias against men. You live in a culture where a man could conceivably do everything right in a marriage and still have everything taken from him by a wife even if she cheated.

  • I think that in the case of cheating, she gets nothing. Maybe half of what they earned together but that's all. I am not too sure about this so I cannot speak about it. I have met equally irresponsible men and women so in case of idiocy and selfishness the sexes seem to be equal:) If there is a bias, then the law needs to be revised (and there are bodies in Australia who are doing that). I also come from a culture that is strongly male biased, and in that country men would get everything.

  • 50% divorce rate can also be attributed to the financial wealth and consumerist values of our society, me, me, me.. and here is where your argument for only women being the selfish ones is shot..looking at statistics:)) men in western societies are just as likely to put their own happiness ahead of stability, responsibility and family, as are women, hence the high divorce rate.:))

  • @Nemogudasesetim Again, women file most of the divorces. That stat is readily available online. Selfish men who don't pay a woman's way rarely make it to the alter. The stat on that in America is that women marry men who make more money about 89% of the time. One study of 46,000 divorces found that women were literally divorcing, breaking up families and giving reasons in "no fault" such as "fell out of love" or "out grew each other" and even my favorite "because I can win". Selfish as hell.

  • You are right, not everyone is made for marriage and children. Not everyone was raised to work together with their partner, respect the life and efforts of another.. instead of using them, for the greater good of the family. Not everyone has the foresight, nor was everyone raised in a good family unit with loving and inspirational, disciplined role models from both sexes. I was, hence I now have the ability, drive and vision to raise my children with respect, kindness and discipline.

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  • @Nemogudasesetim Your mother sounds like mine, born before the age of feminism and self-entitlement took hold of the modern western princess. In all honesty I don't doubt that you may be an exception to the norm since you've seen it lived out but don't be surprised if a lot of men aren't willing to risk it. I've met a number of decent women among the many parasites but the risks are still very high for a man and the potential reward seems very small. There's a lot of men like me.

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    No...I'm screaming at my LAPTOP screen right now!

  • I've got a friend like this, me and another friend are meeting up with her tomorrow because she is pissed at us for selfish reasons, I will dr phil her ass, or not, who knows, that's the fun

  • @JMantisTV

    Women mostly never forgive. They keep it inside and sometimes after months explode with all the thins they have imagined in their mind and may not even be true

  • This story is exactly like my life.. when my parents got divorced my mother had no regard for my feelings.

    She took my graduation dress as well because 'I was not talking to her' Never for one moment did she ever think that maybe I was hurting alot and I wanted her to talk to me to explain things.

    She also came into the house i was living with with my father and took all the kitchen and living room appliances out having no regard for the fact that I was still living there.

    This is exactly me.

  • I THINK THE PROBLEM IS parents often don't realize that their relationship with each other has a direct impact on their children.. They often view their children as separate from their relationship. But that is not the case.

    Children are deeply affected by divorce. It is the parent's responsibility to think about the child's feelings and also seek those feelings from the child.

    Alot of parents do not do this. As a result children become confused and pschologically damaged. as is the case here.

  • i saw this episode. that mom is such a bitch!

  • you can be ggreat mother without satisfying your childs fancy wishes for happiness. anyway, she keeps trying to evade the clear facts rather than apologizing then looking back at dr phil like he know what to say.

  • youre not going to tell your parent to leave your home, you yourself might be the one to decide its time to move on.

  • She looks like that judge from America's got Talent...

  • i watched this last night who would be in front of the whole way of there children getting the attention the childrens supposed to have but i wont judge anyone thx for solving the problem for them dr.phil

  • But anyway what the daughters seek they will never find. They need to forgive not for her, but to heal themselves. And yeah, threatening to commit suicide while your child is pleading on the floor is one of the worst kinds of abuse, if you haven't experienced it you have no idea. These people have something called Borderline Personality Disorder and the behavior is very similar across the board. Sabotaging your child's biggest events is actually a characteristic of it.

  • @Sassafrass246

    no one knows for sure why the mother was threatening to commit suicide. maybe that's how ill-conceived driven she was. if you haven't experienced it, you have no idea. she mentioned that was going through a very painful period and divorce. and if you say that the mother has a disorder, them taking her to dr.phil and putting her errors under the spotlight is going to fix it right ? if it all really comes back to this, i still don't understand what makes it okay to blame the mother

  • What a horrible selfish Mother? I really feel for the 2 daughters.

  • Stratfordny-look for online support groups. They can help you!

  • Mom here is a narcissist, a serious personality disorder. She is a very sick person. 

  • Oh my God, she is just like mother!! anything you did to them they totally remember, but what they did to YOU....can't remember.. nope.. total narcisit!

    I feel empathy for the daughters.. I 've been in their place almost all my life..

    therapy is the only way to heal..

  • these DAUGHTERS are selfish stupid bitches. their mother was the one who gave birth to them. if the mom was selfish, she would've let them die or let them starve, abuse them, or abandon them. yet, they are complaining their mother took their bed. if she squeezed them out of her own vagina, i don't think those dumb cunts should have the audacity to complain. what the fuck is this world coming to?

  • @twighlight00 Come on, your expectations of parenting are pretty low. Giving birth to a child and providing them with the necessities is enough in your eyes, but emotional manipulation and abuse is okay as a justification for giving birth? Unless you had a mother like this you would not understand how traumatic this can be to a person's emotional growth.. My mom was like this, and I'm still working on my self-worth .because of this...

  • @Sassafrass246

    yeah but i don't think she purposely tried to emotionally "manipulate" them. she was just being the mother she thought she was, and had error in it. she was trying to be a good mother. unless you ARE a mother, you don't know how hard it is to keep all parties satisfied, and if you make a mistake you are described as a "selfish" sendoff as these girls are describing their mother. she didn't verbally abuse them, nor physical. she took their stuff. and now they become petty bitches.

  • @twighlight00 I realize she didn't purposely tried to emotionally 'manipulate' them, either. That is the whole point that Dr. Phil is trying to bring up, she is and has always been so consumed with her own emotions and has always tried to put them above her daughter's, that all she sees is what she feels and not what her children see... I think the daughters are petty in the sense that they are bringing her on the Dr. Phil show and expect some form of accountability..

  • @Sassafrass246

    yes, exactly

  • Ahhhh shes such a bullshitter!

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