Maybe it's YouTube's quality, but I'm not all that impressed with the Zoom H2. It seems to me that a shotgun mic and boom pole work better than anything.
Well my camera doesn't have any mic inputs (I am hoping to buy a better camera soon...) so I couldn't have used a shotgun mic.. thats the main reason I got a zoom h2..
But a shotgun mic would probably have better quality....
make sure jeff sees this cuz this goes to wellstonepictures3. but i do give you credit for what u had. those lines are very hard to memorize i can defenitly tell. you guys have progressed so well over the past and im shocked what you have come up with. keep working on the memorization of the script though because i think a big chunk of delivering your story well is how the actor does it ;)
one thing that stuck out the best was your dialouge. i noticed you didnt just switch back and forth from actor from actor. you actually had one talk a little and filmed the other actor listening and reacting to it. very very nice. one other thing tho... your other guy should memorize his lines or stop looking down ;) but thats about it!
Haha.. yeah thanks. Jeff wrote the script and he is real good on making the dialog sound intellectual. We worked hard on doing the "L cuts", we actually filmed the entire scenes twice, one of the speaker, and one of the listener. But yes, we did notice Jeff looking down too much at the script(some of those lines were long!) But again, we aren't good at acting.
1) Some of the lines were very long, and we basically wrote this script and went without rehearsing - we took multiple takes until we got a satisfactory take.
2) I probably looked at my script only 25% of the time I was looking down. I was trying to make it look like I was looking down as in searching for thought, but I'm not too convincing of an actor, so that failed miserably.
I would buy a nv-gs320( is the PAL version of pvng320, that is ntsc)... but.. on youtube, videos uploaded ( from this camcorder) are very different about quality...I realized that this video has got good quality...so I think that the quality depends from the exange ( avi to mpeg)..
how do you do to upload with this high quality? If you answer me.. I'll give credit to you... thank's for the attention
Well first off, this isn't the stock footage. When I edit it I added a ton of contrast (this helps a lot with making the colors more vivid) I also cropped and did a bit of color correction.
But all I do is render the video as a WMV. I edit with Sony Vegas and capture with a firewire cable.
I would suggest adding contrast, and if that doesn't help any send me a message and I'd be glad to help you out.
Its very easy to criticise but very hard to practicaly act infront of camera,overall the video has been very good edited shots taken and scripted very well but lacks in acting and expressions.
I honestly don't think so because all of the dialog is crucial in telling the story. I thought it was pretty well written. I mean, we couldn't have done much to make it less repetitive.
very good dialogue fluency, shots, acting, and this may be one of your more "cinematic-looking" short films. And course, a muzzle flash, or even a flash transition, would look cooler.
I didn't like the reflection in the mirror. And at the cut at around 1:18 your arms were down while as the reflection in the mirror your hands were on your chin. He didn't seem surprised when he held up the gun. And over hiring an employee? lol, I'm just kidding cas that's nit picking. I liked it as always :D The sound's great, directing, cuts. 5/5. Nice drama, shows how you can make a real short movie without explosions. This is true talent.
Wow, that cut totally came back and screwed us. As you see before that, we made sure that when Justin placed his hand upon the chin it was like that in the following shot.
Some how we let the next cut slip. Nice find.
Thanks for the rating and critique as well, we enjoy people pointing out mistakes/places we need to improve.
The reason he didn't seem surprised was because, in part, he expected it. Secondly, my character intended to kill Justin's.
The "business" isn't any normal business - it's a murdering business (if you can call it that). The "client" refers not to employees of the company (or someone that the company does business for/with), but rather as the person who is meant to die.
Each character feels the other has hurt the company, and thus each decides to "do business" with the other.
Yeah that was a good find indeed. As Jeff said, we appreciate you critiquing films, as most of our subscribers don't give us much feedback. And we didn't really explain it that much but we meant for their "business" to be a mob, and they were deciding who to "hit" next. But yea I really appreciate your comment.
I wouldn't really affiliate these particular characters with The Mob, per se. Rather, they have a business that has an expertise in "dealing with people".
Well, it's simply that the Mob is more of synonymous with the Italian Mafia/Cosa Nostra. Simply saying that the Mafia kills people as this business does is a bit of an understatement. The Mafia is much more involved is organized crimes dealing with robbing/drug trafficking (though murders are of course common in such business). Basically, they don't simply kill, and when they do kill it is with reason.
Also, the Italian Mafia only allows in individuals of Italian heritage on both the mother's and father's side (though it used to be only the father's side).
Thus, I would qualify, but you would not. Even though you could be an associate of mine, it is unlikely you'd be so heavily involved in activities as murders.
haha. You only like our comedies. I honestly don't think any of our comedies have been any good. One day we're gonna make one thats just sooo funny and amazing at the same time.
New Channel Everyone! Wellstone plans on uploading old videos but with our own COMMENTARY!
WeIlstonePictures 11 months ago
cause you'll be dead! You should enter it at BIGSTARtv's Online Film Festival, you could win 50K
emceefreshjiveLA 1 year ago
You are too young looking for this type of film. I think you should do a college comedy.
JimiHenbricks 2 years ago
Wellstone. lol How Jewish is that lol!!
PAM1976 2 years ago
You se a zoom h2. Hows does that connect to ur camera with no inputs and how is the sound without the h2?
ninjazoner 2 years ago
That's what I'm wondering as well.
TVwriter23 2 years ago
Pretty good, but you're too young to be mobsters.
mrbughorn 2 years ago
it's the voices/mumbling...
great work though!!! what camera do you use
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ooganblat 2 years ago
one of my all time favorites.
Ben1257sb 3 years ago
The zoom H2 will do he job, jsut got learn how to use the setting and he placement of it while you record. Good luck.
gnxmusic 3 years ago
Maybe it's YouTube's quality, but I'm not all that impressed with the Zoom H2. It seems to me that a shotgun mic and boom pole work better than anything.
BEggerton 3 years ago
Well my camera doesn't have any mic inputs (I am hoping to buy a better camera soon...) so I couldn't have used a shotgun mic.. thats the main reason I got a zoom h2..
But a shotgun mic would probably have better quality....
jp3553 3 years ago
acting needs working on but nice camera angles!!
DylanKershaw 3 years ago
its pretty good, but your acting needs to me a little more believeable. other than that good!
ChezterG 3 years ago 2
one of the guys looks like chase from zoey 101
funkyfredscool 3 years ago
thats the first thing i thought of!
pearl112 2 years ago
bravo bravo guys. that was nice.
Saul3241 3 years ago
i dont get it
claireisyourfather 3 years ago
They are in a killing business together, but they both decide to kill each other because they both think the other person is ruining the business.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
ohhh, well i liked in anyway
claireisyourfather 3 years ago
Great video--- especially with the twist ending. Good job everybody !!!
fig51557 3 years ago
nice...
check out my films.
-Cnior/Eric Horner
Cnior 3 years ago
holy......the best ending i have seen in a short film in quite sometime!
filmguy91 3 years ago
Haha! if only the guy in the chair had that Godfather voice.
Morventhus 3 years ago
very cool. i like the eiting man freaging sick
magicmonkeyman11 3 years ago
did you use any lenses or did you just edit the contrast? what editing programs. looks great this way
09ine 3 years ago
All I did was add some contrast, a bit of brightness, and that's it. I used Sony Vegas and cropped the video a bit as well.
And thanks for the feedback!
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
make sure jeff sees this cuz this goes to wellstonepictures3. but i do give you credit for what u had. those lines are very hard to memorize i can defenitly tell. you guys have progressed so well over the past and im shocked what you have come up with. keep working on the memorization of the script though because i think a big chunk of delivering your story well is how the actor does it ;)
Ben1257sb 3 years ago
Memorization is something we should work on, but generally what we do is produce a script and produce the film, usually within the same day.
I would prefer it to be that we actually read the scripts and rehearse (or find better actors to do it), but time isn't on our sides.
Perhaps over the summer when time is more efficient it will be easier to do these things.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
one thing that stuck out the best was your dialouge. i noticed you didnt just switch back and forth from actor from actor. you actually had one talk a little and filmed the other actor listening and reacting to it. very very nice. one other thing tho... your other guy should memorize his lines or stop looking down ;) but thats about it!
Ben1257sb 3 years ago
Haha.. yeah thanks. Jeff wrote the script and he is real good on making the dialog sound intellectual. We worked hard on doing the "L cuts", we actually filmed the entire scenes twice, one of the speaker, and one of the listener. But yes, we did notice Jeff looking down too much at the script(some of those lines were long!) But again, we aren't good at acting.
Thanks for the feedback!
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
Well, two things about looking down:
1) Some of the lines were very long, and we basically wrote this script and went without rehearsing - we took multiple takes until we got a satisfactory take.
2) I probably looked at my script only 25% of the time I was looking down. I was trying to make it look like I was looking down as in searching for thought, but I'm not too convincing of an actor, so that failed miserably.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
Finally some feedback that is useful!!Thanks everyone
wellstone2 3 years ago
lol really good looks like a real movie
5/5
snoppy3183 3 years ago
Good script, good photography.
chiefbrody2001 3 years ago
(sorry for my english... I'm italian)...
I would buy a nv-gs320( is the PAL version of pvng320, that is ntsc)... but.. on youtube, videos uploaded ( from this camcorder) are very different about quality...I realized that this video has got good quality...so I think that the quality depends from the exange ( avi to mpeg)..
how do you do to upload with this high quality? If you answer me.. I'll give credit to you... thank's for the attention
LaButangas 3 years ago
Well first off, this isn't the stock footage. When I edit it I added a ton of contrast (this helps a lot with making the colors more vivid) I also cropped and did a bit of color correction.
But all I do is render the video as a WMV. I edit with Sony Vegas and capture with a firewire cable.
I would suggest adding contrast, and if that doesn't help any send me a message and I'd be glad to help you out.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
Its very easy to criticise but very hard to practicaly act infront of camera,overall the video has been very good edited shots taken and scripted very well but lacks in acting and expressions.
p129crn 3 years ago
I completely agree. We cannot act. Plain and Simple. Hopefully we'll be able to find some better actors in some of our future films.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
that was very good.
effectsmaster1 3 years ago
By the way, they both are obviously assassins, but the dialog sounds a lot how mafia bosses and mafia hitmen talk, and their all around attitude.
cyspy 3 years ago
Great dialog, decent shot list.
Acting wasn't good, both verbal, physical. Such as the first drawing of the gun.
I didn't like the way it cut to black and THEN showed the guy fall. It messes up my being actually INTO it.
Otherwise good, excellent visuals/audio.
And again, GREAT dialog.
Peace,
Beast
cyspy 3 years ago
Yes, acting is an area we need MUCH improvement on.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
great stuff guys! solid execution. Musta been kinda hard tryin to do this one. im sure u learned alot! congrats on a well done short!!
jD
CovanentFilms 3 years ago
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
It turned out well but it got a little repetitive at points we could have worked the script a little better. This room does look nice on film
wellstone2 3 years ago
I honestly don't think so because all of the dialog is crucial in telling the story. I thought it was pretty well written. I mean, we couldn't have done much to make it less repetitive.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
PWNT lal
Unbroken0ne 3 years ago
PWNT lal
Unbroken0ne 3 years ago
PWNT lal
Unbroken0ne 3 years ago
very good dialogue fluency, shots, acting, and this may be one of your more "cinematic-looking" short films. And course, a muzzle flash, or even a flash transition, would look cooler.
overall. 5 stars
icemanfan5 3 years ago
Yeah, thanks for the feedback. Glad you took time to critique it!
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
i like it as allways the suspence was good. and nice editing on the gun,the turnaround,and the sound on the gun nice job in all keep it up =)
fuckingowsomevideos 3 years ago
I didn't like the reflection in the mirror. And at the cut at around 1:18 your arms were down while as the reflection in the mirror your hands were on your chin. He didn't seem surprised when he held up the gun. And over hiring an employee? lol, I'm just kidding cas that's nit picking. I liked it as always :D The sound's great, directing, cuts. 5/5. Nice drama, shows how you can make a real short movie without explosions. This is true talent.
MPT77 3 years ago
Wow, that cut totally came back and screwed us. As you see before that, we made sure that when Justin placed his hand upon the chin it was like that in the following shot.
Some how we let the next cut slip. Nice find.
Thanks for the rating and critique as well, we enjoy people pointing out mistakes/places we need to improve.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
Also...
The reason he didn't seem surprised was because, in part, he expected it. Secondly, my character intended to kill Justin's.
The "business" isn't any normal business - it's a murdering business (if you can call it that). The "client" refers not to employees of the company (or someone that the company does business for/with), but rather as the person who is meant to die.
Each character feels the other has hurt the company, and thus each decides to "do business" with the other.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
Yeah that was a good find indeed. As Jeff said, we appreciate you critiquing films, as most of our subscribers don't give us much feedback. And we didn't really explain it that much but we meant for their "business" to be a mob, and they were deciding who to "hit" next. But yea I really appreciate your comment.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
I wouldn't really affiliate these particular characters with The Mob, per se. Rather, they have a business that has an expertise in "dealing with people".
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
This was meant to be a reply to Justin's last post.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
Well yeah, I guess that's a better way of describing it.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
Well, it's simply that the Mob is more of synonymous with the Italian Mafia/Cosa Nostra. Simply saying that the Mafia kills people as this business does is a bit of an understatement. The Mafia is much more involved is organized crimes dealing with robbing/drug trafficking (though murders are of course common in such business). Basically, they don't simply kill, and when they do kill it is with reason.
...
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
Also, the Italian Mafia only allows in individuals of Italian heritage on both the mother's and father's side (though it used to be only the father's side).
Thus, I would qualify, but you would not. Even though you could be an associate of mine, it is unlikely you'd be so heavily involved in activities as murders.
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
Wow. How do you think up all of this so fast? haha. Your comments are so much more intellectual than mine.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
It's stuff I know. ;)
WellstonePictures3 3 years ago
not my favorite but it was ok
lucasghst 3 years ago
haha. You only like our comedies. I honestly don't think any of our comedies have been any good. One day we're gonna make one thats just sooo funny and amazing at the same time.
WellstonePictures 3 years ago
Best of all of ur films so far, though making a gun shot on screen instead of the black would have made it better.
FourHandsProductions 3 years ago
nice!
maxvldz 3 years ago
excellent! it was totally good stuff :)
granskare 3 years ago
The shots turned out good
wellstone2 3 years ago
cool
Bigcatpro 3 years ago
Niceee(:
Nicoz0rz 3 years ago
nice add in the gun shot and take out the black and put the blood :) than it will be 90% more cooler 5* love the vid
cuda92 3 years ago