You have to realize what Falco was going for at 00:25. Aiming for a ledge-grab is hard to do... Although I will admit, at his level, it shouldn't have happened..
Mindgames are more or less the ability to predict your opponents moves in all possible situations in order to benefit your own playing. It's also a way of moving/playing in a way that makes the opponent act according to your plans, i.e - psyche the opponent to do predictable things.
Mindgames>Technical skills. That is why CJ>Bombsoldier imho. Technical skills can get you really far, but only players with mindgames reach the top.
Think aboutit this way, Bombsoldier practically disappeared from the competitive scene for 2 years. In those two years players like PC Chris, Forward and Shiz have been rising and competing in tournaments building on their experience. We've only seen Bombsoldier enter one tournament before OC3 and we have seen PC, Forward and Shiz enter numerous tournaments before OC3. And during that 2 year period, we have found ways to counter combos in which we have seen Bombsoldier do at OC3.
BS isn't rusty. Remember back then, BS released so many videos of him doing flashy, sick, and impossible combos. When people saw this, every one went nuts over it and held him to a great player. Unfortunately, he couldn't fulfill that status quo. BS is like Harlem Globetrotters: they do all this cool, flashy stuff, but put them against a real team, they are not same. So in away, BS was like that too.
so what I'm getting here is that, he's example is a perfect demonstration of what makes a skilled pro vs avg joe, which is MINDGAMEm - the key to their separation. BS was good at connecting combos, but he couldn't outwit his opponent. Where he's opponent would pick up his pattern and change his gameplay. BS on the other hand didn't do anything, just kept going head in like a bull. That's he never won a torny. So moral of the story: LEARN TO USE MINDGAME.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
BS is jus like me like im a falco player and people i play wit all the time say i got the combos and wavedashin and all that but ill never win if i dont got mindgames cause thats one thing i really dont pay attention to
You can only win on tech skill alone if you're fighting someone who doesn't predict what you're going to do and take action. Most people play smarter than that, so to win consistently you have to be able to trick your opponent.
Those old vids were all tournament matches. And those combos werent flashy and impossible infact those combos id say are 99.9% of wat american falco players do are try to do today. But anybody whod write use to learn mindgame isnt probably worth arguing with anyway lol
Nice, never knew BS's real name. I saw some pics of him from OC3 though. From these matches, I think you are right myko, he is playing smarter then he has in the past.
i have made this channel so that i can answer peoples questions and HELP them in any aspects of super smash bros melee. i want people to join in with me,in this account and help me answer peoples questions. if you want to get involved,send me a messege,and i will give you the password. PLEASE JOIN!!
Wow. First off, players like Aniki, Masashi, and CJ have all improved a ton. Watch their recent videos (including this one). They are much faster and better. BS isn't rusty. He is still one of the best Falcos. Players have held him in such a high position. Unfortunately, he can't live up to those expectations because other players have found ways to counter his Falco.
CJ's shiek isn't even that cheap. I heard BS got 3-stocked by Drephen's shiek, which basically spams d-throw, d-smash, and dash attack. Besides, Falco is also cheap.
this was on a tournament in massachussets right?
raskafari7273 1 year ago
@raskafari7273 Considering Captain Jack and Bombsoldier are two japanese players, I doubt this match happened in the USA. ^^
Grolironde 1 year ago
Dude shiek is such a bitch in this game. not saying she doesn't take skill, but still, fucking spam moar. .__.
llNocturne 1 year ago
1:34 owned
LaJ126 1 year ago
violence is wrong but it ets te job done
TheCyndaquilLover 1 year ago
You have to realize what Falco was going for at 00:25. Aiming for a ledge-grab is hard to do... Although I will admit, at his level, it shouldn't have happened..
StudioAsian 2 years ago
Epic failure at 00:20
ZerglingRushkeke 2 years ago
are u sure that it is bombosoldier?
cross25011990 3 years ago
He didn't do good indeed <.<
darkruler388 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
thats not BS....
jojozemonkey 3 years ago
WTF @ 00:25
MarthvanW 3 years ago
It's called fail.
:P
TheKingOfBrawl 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
im mad cause im a yoshi player and this fag corrupted yoshi has his name....Fagget gtfo
Never1924 3 years ago
BS slow start cost him
starfox15 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Both suck
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
I suppose you can do better champ?
Kitsune no Shiroi
leo1422 4 years ago 3
WTF i dont undestand you try to speak english no japanese
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
you're a hater ass newblet. scrub.
xepikhighx 4 years ago 2
your mom
.i.
they suck with sheik and falco
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
Wow you just said two amazingly good players suck. You must not know Smash at all to say not only Bombsoldier, but Captain Jack suck.
Leavant 4 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
They are not amazing they are amateur no pro
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
Okay thats why they are both regarded as some of the best players in Japan.
Leavant 4 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
they are amateur
i dont see moves pro
amateur
no pro do you undertand
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
you seem to know all about being a pro dont you???
why dont you show us what you can do???
Diikiis 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
ok but i need a fucking camera
all they are doing is dancing
CorruptedYoshi 3 years ago
so now youre sayng excuses....
why dont you go to a tournament or something, an MLG one.....
Diikiis 3 years ago
is not a excuse its true
im not from the angeles
CorruptedYoshi 3 years ago
ur a frigin dumass....
ill bet that if u played them, they wud destroy u
somerandommofo 4 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you suck
you fucking noob
jaja you are very easy to beat in 1 second
Game!
fuck you bitch
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
they are 1 to 9
7
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
If you say you can beat them, then post a video of your skills. A dog with all bark but no bite is not impressive at all.
metroid1117 4 years ago 2
Wetback.
LuckyOneSmash 4 years ago
WTF?
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
I said you are a WETBACK. It is a racist remark to people from Mexico, you wetback fuck.
LuckyOneSmash 3 years ago
Wetback.
LuckyOneSmash 4 years ago
WTF?
CorruptedYoshi 4 years ago
what exactly are mindgames?
magicalwizardboy 4 years ago
Mindgames are more or less the ability to predict your opponents moves in all possible situations in order to benefit your own playing. It's also a way of moving/playing in a way that makes the opponent act according to your plans, i.e - psyche the opponent to do predictable things.
Mindgames>Technical skills. That is why CJ>Bombsoldier imho. Technical skills can get you really far, but only players with mindgames reach the top.
Makaroniman 4 years ago 4
couldnt say it any better
pwntizzzle 4 years ago
bombsoldier has improved, but...
the american top falco players have far outpaced him. Forward, pc chris, da shizwiz, could all take him without too much trouble
jngshin 4 years ago
PC Chris yeah, Forward, probably, Shiz, in present time yes, before no
SuperSmashRitz 4 years ago
Think aboutit this way, Bombsoldier practically disappeared from the competitive scene for 2 years. In those two years players like PC Chris, Forward and Shiz have been rising and competing in tournaments building on their experience. We've only seen Bombsoldier enter one tournament before OC3 and we have seen PC, Forward and Shiz enter numerous tournaments before OC3. And during that 2 year period, we have found ways to counter combos in which we have seen Bombsoldier do at OC3.
60395803 4 years ago 2
BS isn't rusty. Remember back then, BS released so many videos of him doing flashy, sick, and impossible combos. When people saw this, every one went nuts over it and held him to a great player. Unfortunately, he couldn't fulfill that status quo. BS is like Harlem Globetrotters: they do all this cool, flashy stuff, but put them against a real team, they are not same. So in away, BS was like that too.
morshed1 4 years ago
so what I'm getting here is that, he's example is a perfect demonstration of what makes a skilled pro vs avg joe, which is MINDGAMEm - the key to their separation. BS was good at connecting combos, but he couldn't outwit his opponent. Where he's opponent would pick up his pattern and change his gameplay. BS on the other hand didn't do anything, just kept going head in like a bull. That's he never won a torny. So moral of the story: LEARN TO USE MINDGAME.
morshed1 4 years ago
CJ isnt an avd joe. hes also pro.
Xerolimits89 4 years ago
He does have mindgames, it's just cause you can't see it, you're probably going with what everyone else says.
SUNG475 4 years ago
Dude you're a noob stfu.
Yayuhzz 4 years ago
Dunno why this is downvoted, it's true. BS is great at combos and a fantastic Falco, but he doesn't have mindgames. He's just all aggressive.
BlueFoxXT 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
BS is jus like me like im a falco player and people i play wit all the time say i got the combos and wavedashin and all that but ill never win if i dont got mindgames cause thats one thing i really dont pay attention to
can u win without mindgames
prtorrential101 3 years ago
You can only win on tech skill alone if you're fighting someone who doesn't predict what you're going to do and take action. Most people play smarter than that, so to win consistently you have to be able to trick your opponent.
BlueFoxXT 3 years ago 10
good comment. it's gonna help me out cause i never really thought about that before.
smashbrosmaniac 3 years ago
Those old vids were all tournament matches. And those combos werent flashy and impossible infact those combos id say are 99.9% of wat american falco players do are try to do today. But anybody whod write use to learn mindgame isnt probably worth arguing with anyway lol
runts101 4 years ago
I think bombsoldier is like Jimi Hendrix. Sure, theres always gonna be better and more technical guitar players, but he started it all.
thats why no matter how far behind Bombsoldier might get (which he won't) he's always gonna be the falco master.
PandoraCanBe 4 years ago 4
This might be true, but BS messed up a little on this match. Nothing spectacular. And besides, I dbout Bs really started the falco craze
DocSmash 4 years ago
Bombsoldier pretty much invented falco...
SuperSmashRitz 4 years ago 12
maybe he didn't started it....but im pretty sure he perfected it...
Diikiis 3 years ago
better than the last time i saw him play cj
TopCatPwnz 4 years ago
nice match
1:03 n-air?
nice laser edgegard game
blackjo007 4 years ago
zomg CJ vs bombsoldier
ima watch this later
blackjo007 4 years ago
Yusuke is playing smarter and slower now..ever since OC3 and watching Forward etc.
mykofalco 4 years ago
Nice, never knew BS's real name. I saw some pics of him from OC3 though. From these matches, I think you are right myko, he is playing smarter then he has in the past.
pyrodragun 4 years ago
his name is yuske
Xerolimits89 4 years ago
That's just how it's pronounced. "Yoos-kay"
It's spelled Yusuke though. The second u is silent.
Also, if you were telling me his name, my comment above was because I just found out BS's name from myko's post.
pyrodragun 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
damn, if this is bombsoldier, then im kelly clarkson. This is so far removed from the super fast, technical BS i remeber, wtf is up in this match.
shadowlord111 4 years ago
STFU n00b
fastassasshole 4 years ago
i have made this channel so that i can answer peoples questions and HELP them in any aspects of super smash bros melee. i want people to join in with me,in this account and help me answer peoples questions. if you want to get involved,send me a messege,and i will give you the password. PLEASE JOIN!!
SmashBrosMedia 4 years ago
bombsoldier is an inspiration to all falco players but Captain Jack is sweet too. this match was very close and i give props to both of them
GiggityZZ 4 years ago
BS doesn't live where Ketubato takes place.
And LMAO @ johns.
whatwhatwhatwhatwhat 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
cj is not too good its just a very rusty BS and shiek is cheap
ShinVirus 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
true
salinas362 4 years ago
BS is not that rusty. He played in OC3, and there are no cheap characters.
terr13 4 years ago 2
Wow. First off, players like Aniki, Masashi, and CJ have all improved a ton. Watch their recent videos (including this one). They are much faster and better. BS isn't rusty. He is still one of the best Falcos. Players have held him in such a high position. Unfortunately, he can't live up to those expectations because other players have found ways to counter his Falco.
DoctorKimchi 4 years ago
CJ's shiek isn't even that cheap. I heard BS got 3-stocked by Drephen's shiek, which basically spams d-throw, d-smash, and dash attack. Besides, Falco is also cheap.
HDUcards147 4 years ago 3
SHUT THE FUCK UP HDU
HerroCanary 4 years ago
Damn son
zolt4r 4 years ago
so how come BS is never in the ketubato ranking battles?
IWouldHitIt 4 years ago
cj is too good
xchanstar 4 years ago
Wow.
DynaDash 4 years ago