Stefan. i dont like the suggestion that abusive people cannot reform their belief systems and therefore their relationships! we have many examples. love your work.
Energy cannot be created nor destroyed only changed. So what we have is Energy that is infinite cannot be created only changed into matter that is not infinite, it is finite and another form of energy essentially. There is your God - Energy which is eternal infinite omnipresent and me and you are part of. Albert Einstein proved that everything is energy.
@MrMontgomeryM Directly, no, but indirectly Christianity mentally kills those who believe and the lies of Christianity, and therefore these people go kill those who so not believe. They killed the muslims, they killed the jews, they kill their own and other's intelligence.
@MADMANx511 they haven't got the Christian mentality, if they did they wouldn't kill people. You are like when people say communism kills, it doesn't but people like Stalin ordered killings but communism ideology didn't kill them, it was hatred that killed them. They have the killing mentality.
@MrMontgomeryM I suppose you are correct, people kill in the NAME of Christianity (or any faith for that matter) but Christianity itself doesn't kill - Except the Old Testament in some circumstances orders people to kill. For example: Deuteronomy 21:18.
@MADMANx511 People kill in the name of everything these days, it's killing in the name of riots in England these days. There is still orders to kill people today they come from our leaders and our military commanders. Soldiers accept these orders and receive a payment in return, they think because it comes from someone in power that says it is ok then they think it is ok and what about executioners in USA that kill people for payment.
@MADMANx511: Well, that's a nice way of saying ideas have no consequences. Fascism as an idea never pulled any triggers, so it can't be that bad right?
Its the 21st century, why do people still believe in self-contraction statements such as non-violent governments, and gods, when in reality these claims, are based on the acceptance ignorance as an answer, by accepting non-evidence, as evidence by using complex meaninglessness words, such as "Divine Providence", or the "Social Contract," gods existing outside the universe, and so on.
So using your logic, would anyone with any scientific literacy know that all science is based on theory, therefore saying that God doesn't exist holds no more water than God existing?
@xlr8profits bullshit, atheism is not asserting to the existence of god, I'm not sure god doesn't exist, but there is no proof for him, and the way he is described, it's impossible for there to be any proof against him so in all likelihood he doesn't exist.
Christians do NOT think everyone good. In fact, we recognize the fallen/evil nature of man and recognize the need for redemption. A good start, if you are inclined to know something intellectually about Christianity, would be to read CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity". Until then, you don't know much about Christianity so stick to your knitting.
@xlr8profits I think your right and wrong.. we atheist judge them according to their theology, not their personality, character, I think religious people are just victims of indoctrination, like me before and many people before they became atheist
@valsotto27 Atheism requires the same amount of faith as any other belief system. Lewis was raised Christian, turned atheist, and upon further investigation; became one of the most intellectual Christians in history. He, like Stefbot, had a stellar brain....Oh, and he (Lewis) would have NEVER been grouped with some of these kooks with ridiculous claims and absurd interpretations.
@xlr8profits woah.. faith? do you know what faith means? a god existing is not the default answer, until proven existent, it will stay non existent, I dont need faith that unicorns does not exist?? c'mon.. Lolz
@xlr8profits CS Lewis didn't WANT to remain an atheist because he was afraid. Afraid to die. I don't think he has any intellect, when he falls for that.
Also, no faith at all. Faith is not a path to knowledge.
@xlr8profits.Christianity, is a superstition (like all religions), and CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity," was a failed attempt, using "intellectual sophist", such as William Lane Craig,JP Moreland,CS Lewis, and so on, that recreates Christianity by cherry picking biblical verses, to make it more emotionally appealing to the those who have not used the proper amount of reason, that rational decisions require, to make faith the means to determine cosmic truths,vs the empirical requirements of reason.
@xlr8profits.There is no evidence for a "fallen/evil nature of man and recognize the need for redemption," i.e, the superstition of original sin, and biology, anthropology, and so actually discredit original sin, and its opposed to science. Also, there is no evidence for Adam and Eve, nor a Garden of Eden, and talking snakes, so in reality the biblical fall is based mythology, which makes it not applicable, so there is no need for Jesus, or Christianity, so thus Christianity is a waste of time.
jesus changed some of the practices of jews not all and he even says this in the new testament please research before you open your mouth god does not flick planets around like marbels they move in arcs bad analogy and jesus said to his apostles go to the neighboring towns and preach the word of god and if they do not except it shake them of like dust off your sandels he did not say if they don't except it slit their throats don't blame god for the evels of man atheist do this far to much ecchh
god do you know anything about christianity where does it say in the bible that there are not people who are bad to the core because i have never read it please do not speak about things you know nothing about because the bible tells us we are aloud to kill but only when we must not for ideology, money, and power so do not flout outly lie about what we christians believe jesus said turn the other cheek when struck he never said anything about not killing someone who kills your brother
this is the first time i've heard of this the world was created 6,000 years ago and i'm a christian so don't go grouping us all up like we believe that garbage and i don't see why the theory of evolution which i believe in disproves god even charles darwin believed in god and he created the theory it's anoying when athiests say we're a bunch of elogical ediots that know nothing about science i grew up watching pbs so i know a thing or two about science and i didn't believe the rapture thing
i really enjoy your logic!...it really bothers me because of the fact that it is completely tearing down everything that i was raised on...but the logic is addicting
I got raptured and all i got was this stupid shirt.The pope mobile is a bad sign cause if the POPE is scared to die what chance do us chickens have of going to a better place.Also there is no God just us and that is pretty great!Never forget that religion is tax free.Only that which helps the state and powerful are tax free.Religion makes ayou an authoritarian follower and you buy any shit people in authority sell you.If you believe in GOD as an adult you are prob a lover of leaders and thestate
I got raptured and all i got was this stupid shirt.The pope mobile is a bad sign cause if the POPE is scared to die what chance do us chickens have of going to a better place.Also there is no God just us and that is pretty great!
If heaven is so great why do people mourn death? When a loved one dies shouldn't we be happy? Sure we'll miss them and that's sad but the feeling on knowing they're in heaven should really overpower any sadness resulting in net happiness. Yet, time and time again I see people crying with long faces at funerals or after someone's death. It seems contradictory and if you ask a religious person they'll get mad at you. Religious people HATE logic.
nothing can explode into everything!! ha ha ha ha. oh stefan your so smart. your great great granddad was a monkey. thats seriously retarded. never has there been a positive mutation observed by science.yet you have blind faith it happened?hhmmm
@kingneddy Mutations happen all the time. Most of them are harmful, but some of them are beneficial. If there were no mutations, we would still be single-celled organisms. You don't understand evolution. Just think of dog breeding. Over the course of selective breeding there is so much variety among dogs. This can be done over a few generations. Imagine how much change is possible over millions of years. That is how some primates evolved into human beings.
@RPFS2008 ha ha.u believe that?your dumb. do u also think nothing can explode into everything?ha ha. real scientific. what about the 1st law of physics? matter cannot be created or destroyed.evolution is all based on the hocus pocus myth that nothing exploded into everything.you people also never address the fact that darwin was a raving socialist & racist.or that hitler & stalin tried to wipe out millions of people they didnt like & claimed it was natural selection.
Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang (which you don't understand either)
You don't believe that matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed - you believe that god created it and one day will destroy it afterall... but this has nothing to do with mutations. Neither does BS politics.
You don't care about evil, eugenics and genocide, Infact you celebrate it. Hitler and Stalin pale into utter insignificance compared to your god
The Big Bang and Evolution are two separate theories not at all dependant on one another. This is self evident.. For instance, let's imagine that a god created the universe. Evolution/Natural Selection could still exist.
The Big Bang deals with the emergence of the Universe we see around us. Evolution merely deals with speciation of existent biological life.
I agree, there's no point in talking to me anymore. You need to study some fundamental basics.
Actually evolution is an idea with evidence otherwise it would not be a theory. Yes you cannot vouch with 100% certainty that it is true (can you with anything!?) however it explains our observations.
A theory is something which can explain our observations about the natural world, which evolution does.
@ICETEAPRODUCTIONS1 Why can you not see that starting off your argument by saying "Your a fucking idiot..." destroys your credibility right off the bat? Just think about it for a moment..
How do you explain the people who have been abused but go on to live good, loving, peaceful lives? Is there such a thing as human nature or is it human behaviour determined by many things including our environment- Surely the psychopaths running the world are psychopaths because they are bought up in an environment that leads to them being conditioned into a sense of superiority.
The Bible says nothing of an immortal soul, in fact it says the opposite, it is the only theism apart from atheism that states that once you are dead you are dead. You are applying Catholic theology (which is thinly disguised paganism) to Christianity. I feel I must make this point. Regards.
This is actually a great point about the belief that there is "good" in everyone. I think its what makes the average person so painfully credulous and willing to allow likely psychopaths to run their lives in the form of a state. I think if a group of scientists proved what is likely true(that the vast majority of high level politicians have the same regard for other humans as a John Wayne Gacy), most peoples support for the State would collapse...alright I'm being optimistic...
Just because there good in evil does not not mean we have to endorse and engage with bad people if it is bad for us. But it can help for not giving up people that do bad stuff.
Also that there is evil in good does not mean we have to understate the achievements of good people. But it can help to undersand that we all are not perfect and thus strive to improve us.
Postulating immortality is not harmful. It is simply the consequence of subjective self-consistency.
Been atheist, done that... Crusaders = Christianity?, I get it, good old, same old blah blah... ;) I didn't expect you to go there but oh well. I'll stay a christian no matter what this "scientific" world spews out.
@RealTrueTarget oh, the classic "I used to be an atheist but I turned Christian" line. I actually wonder how many people who made this claim are actually sincere. Question: Is it fair to assume that if your mom and dad were muslim, that you would be muslim too? Or maybe if mom and dad were jewish, it would be a safe bet you would be jewish too? Funny how things work like that.
@nurbSoldier You do not have to trust me. Also being Jewish has more to do with bloodline than belief. Even if you don't believe in the Old Testament as a Jew you're still a Jew or am I wrong?
@RealTrueTarget you completely avoided what I said. You make yourself look dumb and weak when you do this.
I essentially said that you are a christian because your mom and dad forced you to be one as a kid. Do you honestly believe that someone over the age of say, 18, would join a religion that treats talking snakes, burning bushes, coming back from the dead, worldwide flood and a god who claims to be merciful but slaughters entire tribes seriously?
@nurbSoldier Well, ehem, glad you dropped that dumb and weak arguement in there. Nice one bro.
To answer your question, yes, I do believe that. The worlds "elite" believes in Satan (the one from the Bible) literally and knows that he can give them the whole world in exchange for their souls. So why would only Satan be real?
@RealTrueTarget the truth is not to each his own. For example, if I said that x number of atoms constitutes a particular molecule and you said that y number of atoms equal the same molecule, at least one of us has to be wrong because the two statements are mutually exclusive.
I said you were dumb and weak because you have still not yet addressed any of the SUBSTANCE of any of my arguments. You never address a single point I made.
I would agree with you partly but I believe the #1 root cause of all human suffering is the concept of initiatory force and the the external authority hoax.
My POW on theism: one has a (scientific) right to be a theist. Under following conditions: absolute mastery of materialistic science and thought, proving some new physical laws we were not aware of and which show (= prove) existence of something theistical, like angels for example. If someone starts to claim theist statements and he has an obvious shortcoming in (materialistical) sciences, noone can take him seriously.
Kurt Gödel proved that there would always be problems which were outside human logic. Turing proved that some things are fundamentally unprovable. The sheer improbability that we're here at all. There could be a God.
Oh I don't believe that there is good in the worst of us. In reality, we are all corrupt in need of mercy. If one can look to the Middle Ages as a sign that religion causes wars, then we can point to World War I as evidence that the "democracy" god has caused untold carnage.
@stefbot - Your sense of humor is the making of your clips. I've tried to follow suit (including on the subject of your flying banana from the metaphysics vid) in my DrBruce Australian philosophy animations. You may also recognized the guy _chasing_ the banana :) See my channel or search for "DrBruce Australia philosophy".
Also would like to point out, many "religious" conflicts in fact were not so. They were indeed "wrapped" in religion, if you will. But often religion was the excuse, not the reason. Often the "religious" wars around the world were for strategic, economic and political reasons. Hell, even during the Crusades, christian kingdoms on occasion allied with Muslim nations.. you know why? It isn't about religion. It's about expansion and self interest. Religion has become the new intellectual scapegoat.
@ShinEmperor Doesn't it tell you something that it is so useful for that purpose? How many people have killed who would not have killed if it wasn't presented as good for their religion or as their religious duty?
@newperve Religion was the dominant social structure at the time. Today, you don't need religion. You can use almost any "ism" and your in good shape. Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Anarchism... pick an ideology that people can identify with, and they will die for it, either passively or actively. Today, they would just wrap in Nationalism, which is what they do. And when states no longer exist, then there will be something else.. there's always something people are willing to die for.
@ShinEmperor Religion has several advantages over any other "ism" in promoting warfare, for instance death is not as scary, the religious cannot lose because they have god on their side etc. It's certainly harder to use say, UPB (universally preferable behaviour) ethics to promote war. States and religions are easily the best propaganda basises for war, nothing else comes close. When neither exists getting people to sacrifice to kill others will be almost impossible.
Eugenics isn't a religion. It was held up high as a science in it's time. Religion can be destructive, no doubt. But until science can avoid creating things like the nuclear bomb, nerve gas and pollution... I think we need a balance. The world today is in great suffering not because of religion. The ecosystems around the globe aren't being threatened by Islam or Christianity... but by scientific progress.
@ShinEmperor A balance between what? Believing the evidence and believing people who said God spoke to them? What proportion would you suggest? How many aeronautical engineers should we have on the airplane design team and how many people who think God is telling them how to build a ship that will let them fly straight to heaven?
@newperve A balance in the conversation. Evidence is rarely "fact". I think many people here can state that at one time what they believed to be "fact" wasn't so. Hell, there are entire anti "fact" movements... examples: The moon, UFO's, Pharmaceuticals, 911... hell I've even seen a fringe scientific study on the anomalies found in nature that disprove Darwinism (theory of evolution). Point I'm getting to, is what seems apparent isn't always so, and simply saying "religion is bad" doesn't cut it
@ShinEmperor By definition evidence must be factual. If you have evidence that other evidence is wrong then the answer is to examine all the evidence scientifically, not consult the voices in your head. Let alone in other people's. You have not seen anything on "anomalies" that disprove evolution becauese nothing disproves evoution becaues it's true. I am not saying religion is bad, I'm asking how many people whose sole evidence is the voice of God do you want designing your airplanes.
@newperve This ISN'T true.A fundamental fact about science is that when it was in it's infancy it was horrible... go read up on the early days of science. I personally have no issue with people who hear god building airplanes... simply because.. well if they have the skill then they should do it. The question here, is this: Is scientific fact ALWAYS scientific fact? No. Much like religion, science if often used to "mold" the truth. Great example: Tobacco. Scientists lined up in the 50's for it.
@ShinEmperor A fundamental fact about science was that it was ALWAYS better than religion for finding out what actually happens and guiding actions for human good. Even when it's wrong it has a mechanism for correction, empirical evidence, experimentation and logical deduction. Religion has only mechanisms to PREVENT correction. I note your moving of the goalposts, I said "people whose sole evidence is the voice of God " not just people who hear the voice of God. You still want to go up?
@newperve There were times they used radiation to cure colds. I'm not saying science is bad.. what I'm saying is ALL things should be open to scrutiny. All things should be questioned... everything from the existence of god, to the "evidence" presented in science. EVERY single thing we know, should be double and triple checked.. and questioned. Yes, there ARE anomalies.. in fact there is a whole domain of science dedicated to explaining, the unexplainable. (It's called anomalistics)
@ShinEmperor No you're not saying science is bad, you're just digging up all the mistakes it's made over 2000 years in a vain attempt to make it look stupider than religion. Note how all these mistakes got corrected by scientists? You do not what all things questioned, you want the people whose sole evidence is hearing God to be allowed, unquestioned, onto airplane design teams. Science already double and triple checks the evidence, how is religion doing on that? Found the "firmament" yet?
A friend of mine had an interesting take on it by saying he looked at as a chance to evaluate his life and see if there were things holding him back from being more honest.
Religion was much more dominant than science in the past. How much have these religious beliefs, influenced science?
The Big Bang, (the creation of the all the matter in the whole universe 397 thousand years later)?! That sounds religious. Could science itself, be compromised by the religious beliefs of the past? If it has been, then science is just as befuddled as religions. Ask an atheist, and he says Darwin, religiously. Didn't Darwin believed in the elimination of unfit, by the fittest?
I just wanted to point out that the whole concept of morality is biased on what we have been brought up to believe in. When an abused kid becomes an abuser himself, is it so simple to say that he is the innocent victim or the evil attacker now. Things are rarely so clean cut. We are quick to judge and slow to understand. << This is the real flaw in humanity.
I love your work Stef and I have learned much from it. However, I find your completely one-sided negative attitude toward spirituality to be frightening for a man of your obvious intelligence. To suggest that science is capable of producing all the answers at some point or another, is to suggest that man is the highest of all beings - and that there is zero possibility of anything that could rival our greatness. We are born out of a system of which nobody can explain with certainty
mans aversion to personal responsibility, as well as the dominating drive to declare oneself right and anyone else wrong is the fulcrum of all this social garbage. I know I am oversimplifying, but it is at its very core where peace is discarded for turmoil.
One item popped out in your talk, Stef. You said something to the effect that "rapture" meant (or was closely related to) genocide. I looked it up and found no such reference. Beyond the religious Christo-millennialist trappings, rapture basically means "seized and taken away" or "a feeling of great joy". I can suspect an epistemology relating rapture to rape or rapacious, but genocide? Could you touch upon that, or was it more a metaphorical remark?
@StringDancerCom Well the rapture has pretty much everyone left behind dying horribly. That's religious genocide to me. I think you're confusing etymology with epistemology.
this explains the "goodness" of eugenics, and social hyper darwinism, this explains the abortion clinics all around the world as something good right? because good people can't be bad and bad people can't be good?
Your assertions in the text box that religion screws up physics and biology would be interesting topics for interviews with folks like Michał Heller or Martin Nowak.
I'm an Anarchist and a Quaker. If that seems like a deep contradiction to you I guess you just need to get out a bit more... ;->
Far from your best work Stef. You do realize how much you resemble a preacher on your videos don't you? Of course your religion, anarcho-capitalism, is an atheist one, but it clearly provides the same sort of holistic integrative conceptual framework for your life that the various theism's provide for their believers
@offramp100 How does he resemble a preacher? Is it that he is trying to convince someone of moral truths? In that case a businessman who has a good investment opportunity that he has thoughly researched and evaluated and which he believes in enough to invest large amounts of his own money resembles a con man.
Pretty shallow argument Stefbot, afterall you might want to open your mind and look beyond christianity, there are more sophistcated religions out there, such as buddhism, which is totally different than Christianity.
@ollie370 Buddhism is far more death-worshipping than Christianity. At least Christians are trying to live, Buddhists are trying to die. They're actively seeking to avoid living, it's a suicide complicated by the presumed fact of reincarnation.
@ollie370 What is nirvana if not death? What would you call not feeling anything for eternity? It's certainly not pleasure because you have to not want anything to get it, and what is pleasure but getting what you want. Buddhism talks about life after death and how to avoid it.
I believe good and evil are actions not mysterious forces. Of course thoughts can be negative or positive but can lead to good actions or evil actions.
@FGTBOGSAT "'There are no atheists in foxholes' isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes." James Morrow. Why should we take special notice of beliefs formed at one's deathbed? Especially since many would be throwing the dice on Pascal's wager. Beliefs formed for their benefit to the believer are known as delusions.
@newperve An atheist wouldn't need a foxhole to begin with because an atheist would never leave the negotiation table without a win/win scenario for both sides in place thus averting the need for foxholes altogether.
Just like the rational mind is disabled by mistaking the ego for the inner voice, the human heart is burdened by eight potential bondages:
1. Grief 2. Shame 3. Familial pride 4. Tribal pride 5. Fear
6. Smugness 7. Condemnation 8. Hatred
From my own experience, there is no angrier atheist than one who is also a recovering catholic, who will suffer under the weight of these bondages until they understand the vast difference between religion and spirituality. Strange how very few meditate.
I really REALLY enjoy all your videos and related website!! I recently found your youtube site and really can't get enough. I find all of your discussion mentally stimulating and enlightening on so many levels. Keep up the good work, you have a new fan. Thank You!!!
I've yet to donate to you for changing my life and world outlook, so feel free to disregard my selfish ass on this one, but I much prefer this style of video over all the interviews you've been doing recently. Just my two cents (and acknowledgement of the lack thereof in transit to you on my part).
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Actually it's the State who wants to have not rules (that apply to it or it's friends) and nobody enforcing the rules (against themselves or their friends). Anarchists are fine with rules, that's why we talk about polycentric law, privately made law, etc and we're fine with people enforcing those rules, which is why Stef wrote about DROs. If Stef turns into a rapist, murdering bastard once the State goes away then I guess one of our DROs will shoot him.
And it should be noted that there's an important difference between "there is evil in the best of us" and "all people have the potential to do evil things". The first is degrading to those who strive to be virtuous, the second is simply a practical approach to viewing people rationally. After all, if there were incorruptible people, that would be an argument for statism.
I found the "good in a bad person" argument too vague for me to agree with because you never defined what: A) The worst of us implies and B) What you would consider some good.
But the point is I guess that it's caused more harm than good worth redeeming for.
I actually disagree with part of the first half of the video, particularly regarding viewing people as unredeemable or defective. In my opinion, such a viewpoint is dangerously close to advocating the end of reasoned argument and the dehumanization that precedes violence. I do understand that it is often necessary to give up on someone who is violent or abusive, but to regard people as fundamentally and permanently beyond change or improvement is to regard them as less than human.
". . . to regard people as fundamentally and permanently beyond change or improvement is to regard them as less than human".
I agree with that. One very popular view is that it is not worth the efforf to reform bad or mad people like Charles Manson. Hence the invention of the guillotine and other forms of State-sanctioned execution.
My view is that it is worth the effort if we are to be a civilised society. In other words we must set the standard of hope and mercy.
Which brings me back to the Rapture.. Which is not taught in the bible and it shows the stupidity of such "Christians" who would believe in such a thing that conflicts with Christ's own words. He said nobody (including himself) would know the time or day of his return and only God knew the time. So when some preacher claims to have knowledge that even the right hand of God doesn't have access too.. Well you just can't help but laugh.
Throughout the entirety of our race of "misery monkeys" (aka humanoids), Good = what I like/want/choose to believe and Evil = what I do not like/want. Good is do what I (we) say/do. Evil is what others do that I do not 'beLIEve'/desire/support. Arbitrary (evil) is as arbitrary (evil) does. FKN period. Forever and Ever. Ahem!
While I LOL'd at the rapture stuff, I do feel like you are describing the worst of organized religion while ignoring the good. Many scientists, artists, architects and great minds of our history were Religious and it did not hinder their work. As I always say, science is a great tool for telling us how things work in our universe. But if you want to know the WHY?, you are left with religion, philosophy and personal faith in "something more". I don't see there is as a conflict personally.
Wow, just wow.. I have to disagree with what you were saying with your examples. In your world view it appears that only GOOD and EVIL exist and there is no redemption. This is just scary to me. Because we are all human and we make mistakes. Some more than others.. And yes there is good and bad in everyone, even the worst criminals have good in them somewhere and this has nothing to do with having a soul or not. People aren't so simple that you can just put them in box A or box B.
Stefan. i dont like the suggestion that abusive people cannot reform their belief systems and therefore their relationships! we have many examples. love your work.
xsickzackx 2 months ago
My dad the other day, told me that every soul CHOOSES their parents... How stupid.
MADMANx511 6 months ago
@MADMANx511 Yes, it is stupid.
MrMontgomeryM 6 months ago
Energy cannot be created nor destroyed only changed. So what we have is Energy that is infinite cannot be created only changed into matter that is not infinite, it is finite and another form of energy essentially. There is your God - Energy which is eternal infinite omnipresent and me and you are part of. Albert Einstein proved that everything is energy.
MrMontgomeryM 6 months ago
EG. Was it Communism that kills people or was it Stalin?
MrMontgomeryM 6 months ago
Except it's not Christianity that kills people.
MrMontgomeryM 6 months ago
@MrMontgomeryM Directly, no, but indirectly Christianity mentally kills those who believe and the lies of Christianity, and therefore these people go kill those who so not believe. They killed the muslims, they killed the jews, they kill their own and other's intelligence.
MADMANx511 6 months ago
@MADMANx511 they haven't got the Christian mentality, if they did they wouldn't kill people. You are like when people say communism kills, it doesn't but people like Stalin ordered killings but communism ideology didn't kill them, it was hatred that killed them. They have the killing mentality.
MrMontgomeryM 6 months ago
@MrMontgomeryM I suppose you are correct, people kill in the NAME of Christianity (or any faith for that matter) but Christianity itself doesn't kill - Except the Old Testament in some circumstances orders people to kill. For example: Deuteronomy 21:18.
MADMANx511 6 months ago
@MADMANx511 People kill in the name of everything these days, it's killing in the name of riots in England these days. There is still orders to kill people today they come from our leaders and our military commanders. Soldiers accept these orders and receive a payment in return, they think because it comes from someone in power that says it is ok then they think it is ok and what about executioners in USA that kill people for payment.
MrMontgomeryM 6 months ago
@MADMANx511: Well, that's a nice way of saying ideas have no consequences. Fascism as an idea never pulled any triggers, so it can't be that bad right?
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youneekk 7 months ago
"except Noah and Bill Cosby" haha that was a good one
shyonsamadi 8 months ago
Its the 21st century, why do people still believe in self-contraction statements such as non-violent governments, and gods, when in reality these claims, are based on the acceptance ignorance as an answer, by accepting non-evidence, as evidence by using complex meaninglessness words, such as "Divine Providence", or the "Social Contract," gods existing outside the universe, and so on.
KevZen2000 8 months ago 4
I like how Stefan twists things, but sometimes I think he twists them too much to get his point across.
chifylube 8 months ago
Why are you wearing headphones and why don't you believe in Jesus?
ProphetChaser 8 months ago
I wonder if Goku knows God
SL55T0T0 8 months ago
So using your logic, would anyone with any scientific literacy know that all science is based on theory, therefore saying that God doesn't exist holds no more water than God existing?
lnsertCleverName 8 months ago
@gregory57481 if you didn't notice at the start he said he knows that all christians sent like this but a lot of them are.
4est242 8 months ago
@xlr8profits bullshit, atheism is not asserting to the existence of god, I'm not sure god doesn't exist, but there is no proof for him, and the way he is described, it's impossible for there to be any proof against him so in all likelihood he doesn't exist.
4est242 8 months ago
great videos. subb'd :)
Everythingreallyisok 8 months ago
Christians do NOT think everyone good. In fact, we recognize the fallen/evil nature of man and recognize the need for redemption. A good start, if you are inclined to know something intellectually about Christianity, would be to read CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity". Until then, you don't know much about Christianity so stick to your knitting.
xlr8profits 9 months ago
@xlr8profits I think your right and wrong.. we atheist judge them according to their theology, not their personality, character, I think religious people are just victims of indoctrination, like me before and many people before they became atheist
valsotto27 9 months ago
@valsotto27 Atheism requires the same amount of faith as any other belief system. Lewis was raised Christian, turned atheist, and upon further investigation; became one of the most intellectual Christians in history. He, like Stefbot, had a stellar brain....Oh, and he (Lewis) would have NEVER been grouped with some of these kooks with ridiculous claims and absurd interpretations.
xlr8profits 9 months ago
@xlr8profits no it doesnt you dirty retard
mikesomething 9 months ago
@xlr8profits woah.. faith? do you know what faith means? a god existing is not the default answer, until proven existent, it will stay non existent, I dont need faith that unicorns does not exist?? c'mon.. Lolz
valsotto27 8 months ago
@xlr8profits CS Lewis didn't WANT to remain an atheist because he was afraid. Afraid to die. I don't think he has any intellect, when he falls for that.
Also, no faith at all. Faith is not a path to knowledge.
johnycannuk 8 months ago
@xlr8profits.Christianity, is a superstition (like all religions), and CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity," was a failed attempt, using "intellectual sophist", such as William Lane Craig,JP Moreland,CS Lewis, and so on, that recreates Christianity by cherry picking biblical verses, to make it more emotionally appealing to the those who have not used the proper amount of reason, that rational decisions require, to make faith the means to determine cosmic truths,vs the empirical requirements of reason.
KevZen2000 8 months ago
@xlr8profits.There is no evidence for a "fallen/evil nature of man and recognize the need for redemption," i.e, the superstition of original sin, and biology, anthropology, and so actually discredit original sin, and its opposed to science. Also, there is no evidence for Adam and Eve, nor a Garden of Eden, and talking snakes, so in reality the biblical fall is based mythology, which makes it not applicable, so there is no need for Jesus, or Christianity, so thus Christianity is a waste of time.
KevZen2000 8 months ago
derp derp way to group all christians together
empfeix 9 months ago
brilliant
DragonYearJoji 9 months ago in playlist My Vlog
jesus changed some of the practices of jews not all and he even says this in the new testament please research before you open your mouth god does not flick planets around like marbels they move in arcs bad analogy and jesus said to his apostles go to the neighboring towns and preach the word of god and if they do not except it shake them of like dust off your sandels he did not say if they don't except it slit their throats don't blame god for the evels of man atheist do this far to much ecchh
gregory57481 9 months ago
@gregory57481 you do not understand virtue if a myth like the soul or unconditional forgiveness prevents you from looking at the facts.
RuddODragonFear 9 months ago
god do you know anything about christianity where does it say in the bible that there are not people who are bad to the core because i have never read it please do not speak about things you know nothing about because the bible tells us we are aloud to kill but only when we must not for ideology, money, and power so do not flout outly lie about what we christians believe jesus said turn the other cheek when struck he never said anything about not killing someone who kills your brother
gregory57481 9 months ago
this is the first time i've heard of this the world was created 6,000 years ago and i'm a christian so don't go grouping us all up like we believe that garbage and i don't see why the theory of evolution which i believe in disproves god even charles darwin believed in god and he created the theory it's anoying when athiests say we're a bunch of elogical ediots that know nothing about science i grew up watching pbs so i know a thing or two about science and i didn't believe the rapture thing
gregory57481 9 months ago
Well spoken :D
vladxx2 9 months ago
i really enjoy your logic!...it really bothers me because of the fact that it is completely tearing down everything that i was raised on...but the logic is addicting
91BROWNIE91 9 months ago
I got raptured and all i got was this stupid shirt.The pope mobile is a bad sign cause if the POPE is scared to die what chance do us chickens have of going to a better place.Also there is no God just us and that is pretty great!Never forget that religion is tax free.Only that which helps the state and powerful are tax free.Religion makes ayou an authoritarian follower and you buy any shit people in authority sell you.If you believe in GOD as an adult you are prob a lover of leaders and thestate
jasrogg 9 months ago
happy rapture day Stef!!
suchafool990 9 months ago
I got raptured and all i got was this stupid shirt.The pope mobile is a bad sign cause if the POPE is scared to die what chance do us chickens have of going to a better place.Also there is no God just us and that is pretty great!
jasrogg 9 months ago
I got raptured and all i got was this stupid shirt
jasrogg 9 months ago
If heaven is so great why do people mourn death? When a loved one dies shouldn't we be happy? Sure we'll miss them and that's sad but the feeling on knowing they're in heaven should really overpower any sadness resulting in net happiness. Yet, time and time again I see people crying with long faces at funerals or after someone's death. It seems contradictory and if you ask a religious person they'll get mad at you. Religious people HATE logic.
SaM52461 9 months ago
The way religion has hindered human progress is one of the only things that LITERALLY makes me sad when I think about it.
SaM52461 9 months ago
nothing can explode into everything!! ha ha ha ha. oh stefan your so smart. your great great granddad was a monkey. thats seriously retarded. never has there been a positive mutation observed by science.yet you have blind faith it happened?hhmmm
kingneddy 9 months ago
@kingneddy Mutations happen all the time. Most of them are harmful, but some of them are beneficial. If there were no mutations, we would still be single-celled organisms. You don't understand evolution. Just think of dog breeding. Over the course of selective breeding there is so much variety among dogs. This can be done over a few generations. Imagine how much change is possible over millions of years. That is how some primates evolved into human beings.
joepeeler34 9 months ago
@kingneddy
What about people who are immune from HIV/AIDS, isn't that a pretty positive mutation?
You're simply wrong - or should I say that the people who made this claim, which you blindly parrot, are wrong.
RPFS2008 9 months ago
@RPFS2008 ha ha.u believe that?your dumb. do u also think nothing can explode into everything?ha ha. real scientific. what about the 1st law of physics? matter cannot be created or destroyed.evolution is all based on the hocus pocus myth that nothing exploded into everything.you people also never address the fact that darwin was a raving socialist & racist.or that hitler & stalin tried to wipe out millions of people they didnt like & claimed it was natural selection.
kingneddy 9 months ago
@kingneddy Your confusing energy, matter and mass.
jh2009001 9 months ago
@kingneddy
So you deny that some are immune to hiv?
Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang (which you don't understand either)
You don't believe that matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed - you believe that god created it and one day will destroy it afterall... but this has nothing to do with mutations. Neither does BS politics.
You don't care about evil, eugenics and genocide, Infact you celebrate it. Hitler and Stalin pale into utter insignificance compared to your god
RPFS2008 9 months ago
@RPFS2008 u say big bang has nothing to do with evolution?no point talking to you anymore so.your an ignorant peasant.
kingneddy 9 months ago
@kingneddy
The Big Bang and Evolution are two separate theories not at all dependant on one another. This is self evident.. For instance, let's imagine that a god created the universe. Evolution/Natural Selection could still exist.
The Big Bang deals with the emergence of the Universe we see around us. Evolution merely deals with speciation of existent biological life.
I agree, there's no point in talking to me anymore. You need to study some fundamental basics.
RPFS2008 9 months ago
@ICETEAPRODUCTIONS1
Actually evolution is an idea with evidence otherwise it would not be a theory. Yes you cannot vouch with 100% certainty that it is true (can you with anything!?) however it explains our observations.
A theory is something which can explain our observations about the natural world, which evolution does.
rich0292 9 months ago
@ICETEAPRODUCTIONS1 Why can you not see that starting off your argument by saying "Your a fucking idiot..." destroys your credibility right off the bat? Just think about it for a moment..
Debatewithme 9 months ago
@ICETEAPRODUCTIONS1
It's says you're a nice guy on your page on this is how you act? You might have to amend that part to say "I'm quite the asshole".
Iseeyoursoul 9 months ago
How do you explain the people who have been abused but go on to live good, loving, peaceful lives? Is there such a thing as human nature or is it human behaviour determined by many things including our environment- Surely the psychopaths running the world are psychopaths because they are bought up in an environment that leads to them being conditioned into a sense of superiority.
ehpl 9 months ago
The Bible says nothing of an immortal soul, in fact it says the opposite, it is the only theism apart from atheism that states that once you are dead you are dead. You are applying Catholic theology (which is thinly disguised paganism) to Christianity. I feel I must make this point. Regards.
redcolt777 9 months ago
I very much enjoy listening to you. Thank you for your posts.
ritad426 9 months ago
This is actually a great point about the belief that there is "good" in everyone. I think its what makes the average person so painfully credulous and willing to allow likely psychopaths to run their lives in the form of a state. I think if a group of scientists proved what is likely true(that the vast majority of high level politicians have the same regard for other humans as a John Wayne Gacy), most peoples support for the State would collapse...alright I'm being optimistic...
AcresofAnarchy 9 months ago
Just because there good in evil does not not mean we have to endorse and engage with bad people if it is bad for us. But it can help for not giving up people that do bad stuff.
Also that there is evil in good does not mean we have to understate the achievements of good people. But it can help to undersand that we all are not perfect and thus strive to improve us.
Postulating immortality is not harmful. It is simply the consequence of subjective self-consistency.
benjayk 9 months ago
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deadindisguise 9 months ago
Been atheist, done that... Crusaders = Christianity?, I get it, good old, same old blah blah... ;) I didn't expect you to go there but oh well. I'll stay a christian no matter what this "scientific" world spews out.
RealTrueTarget 9 months ago
@RealTrueTarget oh, the classic "I used to be an atheist but I turned Christian" line. I actually wonder how many people who made this claim are actually sincere. Question: Is it fair to assume that if your mom and dad were muslim, that you would be muslim too? Or maybe if mom and dad were jewish, it would be a safe bet you would be jewish too? Funny how things work like that.
nurbSoldier 9 months ago
@nurbSoldier You do not have to trust me. Also being Jewish has more to do with bloodline than belief. Even if you don't believe in the Old Testament as a Jew you're still a Jew or am I wrong?
RealTrueTarget 9 months ago
@RealTrueTarget you completely avoided what I said. You make yourself look dumb and weak when you do this.
I essentially said that you are a christian because your mom and dad forced you to be one as a kid. Do you honestly believe that someone over the age of say, 18, would join a religion that treats talking snakes, burning bushes, coming back from the dead, worldwide flood and a god who claims to be merciful but slaughters entire tribes seriously?
nurbSoldier 8 months ago
@nurbSoldier Well, ehem, glad you dropped that dumb and weak arguement in there. Nice one bro.
To answer your question, yes, I do believe that. The worlds "elite" believes in Satan (the one from the Bible) literally and knows that he can give them the whole world in exchange for their souls. So why would only Satan be real?
RealTrueTarget 8 months ago
@RealTrueTarget I did not drop a dumb and weak argument. I simply accused you of making one for your failure to address my points.
You don't even address WHY you are a Christian. You simply address THAT you are a Christian. Is this simple enough for you to understand?
nurbSoldier 8 months ago
@nurbSoldier No, you simply dropped "you make yourself look dumb and weak" lol that's what I was talking about. NVM it tho, to each their own.
RealTrueTarget 8 months ago
@RealTrueTarget the truth is not to each his own. For example, if I said that x number of atoms constitutes a particular molecule and you said that y number of atoms equal the same molecule, at least one of us has to be wrong because the two statements are mutually exclusive.
I said you were dumb and weak because you have still not yet addressed any of the SUBSTANCE of any of my arguments. You never address a single point I made.
nurbSoldier 8 months ago
I would agree with you partly but I believe the #1 root cause of all human suffering is the concept of initiatory force and the the external authority hoax.
AceOfHeart2012 9 months ago
I think the Bible meant that on May, 21 Christianity and bullshit religion would be getting the rapture.
MarvelsofaLifetime 9 months ago
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GhostOfJayLeno 9 months ago
Wow this vid was wonderful!
GhostOfJayLeno 9 months ago
Pshhh everyone knows the real rapture is in 2012 just as the ancient Mayans hath foretold.
Equity213 9 months ago
My POW on theism: one has a (scientific) right to be a theist. Under following conditions: absolute mastery of materialistic science and thought, proving some new physical laws we were not aware of and which show (= prove) existence of something theistical, like angels for example. If someone starts to claim theist statements and he has an obvious shortcoming in (materialistical) sciences, noone can take him seriously.
qedisk 9 months ago
Kurt Gödel proved that there would always be problems which were outside human logic. Turing proved that some things are fundamentally unprovable. The sheer improbability that we're here at all. There could be a God.
UrbanUnplug 9 months ago
Harold actually has a legitimate excuse...
watch?v=jHxt0O5w7qA
BrainInSkull 9 months ago
Not my favorite of your videos... Got better near the end..
treemouse101 9 months ago
Oh I don't believe that there is good in the worst of us. In reality, we are all corrupt in need of mercy. If one can look to the Middle Ages as a sign that religion causes wars, then we can point to World War I as evidence that the "democracy" god has caused untold carnage.
efrem1 9 months ago
"kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out".........hmmmm, where have I heard this before......
p4h10oso 9 months ago
What's Bill Cosby got to do with it?
sharperguy 9 months ago
@sharperguy he had a comedy routine about Noah's Ark...
stefbot 9 months ago 7
@stefbot Ah I see. I just figured this whole 'rapture' thing was an advertisement for a new Jurassic Park movie.
sharperguy 9 months ago
@stefbot I LOVE THAT ROUTINE
SomethingSea1 9 months ago
Everyone should develop their own religion,
and religion should have no more than one member.
Science is just the new replacement for all past religions.
And is just as open, to corruption.
look at climategate. or continental drift, as examples of how academia has been corrupted, to warp science into unbelievable, convoluted, fantasy.
watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
rongrite 9 months ago
Sorry Stef, can't like upthumb your video because I was sent straight up to heaven earlier today.
newperve 9 months ago 8
@newperve wow, good bandwidth? i imagine so... :)
stefbot 9 months ago 10
@stefbot Yeah the bandwidth is great, but I can't get porn.
newperve 9 months ago
@stefbot - Your sense of humor is the making of your clips. I've tried to follow suit (including on the subject of your flying banana from the metaphysics vid) in my DrBruce Australian philosophy animations. You may also recognized the guy _chasing_ the banana :) See my channel or search for "DrBruce Australia philosophy".
DrBruceAustralia 9 months ago
Testify, brother!
existenceexists08 9 months ago
Also would like to point out, many "religious" conflicts in fact were not so. They were indeed "wrapped" in religion, if you will. But often religion was the excuse, not the reason. Often the "religious" wars around the world were for strategic, economic and political reasons. Hell, even during the Crusades, christian kingdoms on occasion allied with Muslim nations.. you know why? It isn't about religion. It's about expansion and self interest. Religion has become the new intellectual scapegoat.
ShinEmperor 9 months ago
@ShinEmperor Doesn't it tell you something that it is so useful for that purpose? How many people have killed who would not have killed if it wasn't presented as good for their religion or as their religious duty?
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve Religion was the dominant social structure at the time. Today, you don't need religion. You can use almost any "ism" and your in good shape. Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Anarchism... pick an ideology that people can identify with, and they will die for it, either passively or actively. Today, they would just wrap in Nationalism, which is what they do. And when states no longer exist, then there will be something else.. there's always something people are willing to die for.
ShinEmperor 9 months ago
@ShinEmperor Religion has several advantages over any other "ism" in promoting warfare, for instance death is not as scary, the religious cannot lose because they have god on their side etc. It's certainly harder to use say, UPB (universally preferable behaviour) ethics to promote war. States and religions are easily the best propaganda basises for war, nothing else comes close. When neither exists getting people to sacrifice to kill others will be almost impossible.
newperve 9 months ago
Eugenics isn't a religion. It was held up high as a science in it's time. Religion can be destructive, no doubt. But until science can avoid creating things like the nuclear bomb, nerve gas and pollution... I think we need a balance. The world today is in great suffering not because of religion. The ecosystems around the globe aren't being threatened by Islam or Christianity... but by scientific progress.
ShinEmperor 9 months ago
@ShinEmperor A balance between what? Believing the evidence and believing people who said God spoke to them? What proportion would you suggest? How many aeronautical engineers should we have on the airplane design team and how many people who think God is telling them how to build a ship that will let them fly straight to heaven?
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve A balance in the conversation. Evidence is rarely "fact". I think many people here can state that at one time what they believed to be "fact" wasn't so. Hell, there are entire anti "fact" movements... examples: The moon, UFO's, Pharmaceuticals, 911... hell I've even seen a fringe scientific study on the anomalies found in nature that disprove Darwinism (theory of evolution). Point I'm getting to, is what seems apparent isn't always so, and simply saying "religion is bad" doesn't cut it
ShinEmperor 9 months ago
@ShinEmperor By definition evidence must be factual. If you have evidence that other evidence is wrong then the answer is to examine all the evidence scientifically, not consult the voices in your head. Let alone in other people's. You have not seen anything on "anomalies" that disprove evolution becauese nothing disproves evoution becaues it's true. I am not saying religion is bad, I'm asking how many people whose sole evidence is the voice of God do you want designing your airplanes.
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve This ISN'T true.A fundamental fact about science is that when it was in it's infancy it was horrible... go read up on the early days of science. I personally have no issue with people who hear god building airplanes... simply because.. well if they have the skill then they should do it. The question here, is this: Is scientific fact ALWAYS scientific fact? No. Much like religion, science if often used to "mold" the truth. Great example: Tobacco. Scientists lined up in the 50's for it.
ShinEmperor 9 months ago
@ShinEmperor A fundamental fact about science was that it was ALWAYS better than religion for finding out what actually happens and guiding actions for human good. Even when it's wrong it has a mechanism for correction, empirical evidence, experimentation and logical deduction. Religion has only mechanisms to PREVENT correction. I note your moving of the goalposts, I said "people whose sole evidence is the voice of God " not just people who hear the voice of God. You still want to go up?
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve There were times they used radiation to cure colds. I'm not saying science is bad.. what I'm saying is ALL things should be open to scrutiny. All things should be questioned... everything from the existence of god, to the "evidence" presented in science. EVERY single thing we know, should be double and triple checked.. and questioned. Yes, there ARE anomalies.. in fact there is a whole domain of science dedicated to explaining, the unexplainable. (It's called anomalistics)
ShinEmperor 9 months ago
@ShinEmperor No you're not saying science is bad, you're just digging up all the mistakes it's made over 2000 years in a vain attempt to make it look stupider than religion. Note how all these mistakes got corrected by scientists? You do not what all things questioned, you want the people whose sole evidence is hearing God to be allowed, unquestioned, onto airplane design teams. Science already double and triple checks the evidence, how is religion doing on that? Found the "firmament" yet?
newperve 9 months ago
A friend of mine had an interesting take on it by saying he looked at as a chance to evaluate his life and see if there were things holding him back from being more honest.
BrainInSkull 9 months ago
Religion was much more dominant than science in the past. How much have these religious beliefs, influenced science?
The Big Bang, (the creation of the all the matter in the whole universe 397 thousand years later)?! That sounds religious. Could science itself, be compromised by the religious beliefs of the past? If it has been, then science is just as befuddled as religions. Ask an atheist, and he says Darwin, religiously. Didn't Darwin believed in the elimination of unfit, by the fittest?
rongrite 9 months ago
I just wanted to point out that the whole concept of morality is biased on what we have been brought up to believe in. When an abused kid becomes an abuser himself, is it so simple to say that he is the innocent victim or the evil attacker now. Things are rarely so clean cut. We are quick to judge and slow to understand. << This is the real flaw in humanity.
LeJimster 9 months ago
I love your work Stef and I have learned much from it. However, I find your completely one-sided negative attitude toward spirituality to be frightening for a man of your obvious intelligence. To suggest that science is capable of producing all the answers at some point or another, is to suggest that man is the highest of all beings - and that there is zero possibility of anything that could rival our greatness. We are born out of a system of which nobody can explain with certainty
ArchimedeanEye 9 months ago
Finally something I agree with in this channel.
grebrim 9 months ago
mans aversion to personal responsibility, as well as the dominating drive to declare oneself right and anyone else wrong is the fulcrum of all this social garbage. I know I am oversimplifying, but it is at its very core where peace is discarded for turmoil.
SlingSalsa 9 months ago
The American South is a religious shit hole. I don't know about the rest of the country but the South is really, really crazy. I had to run away.
gradiu3rox 9 months ago
posted a day after rapture day....knew stef was sorta believing in it :P
AnarchyEnsues 9 months ago
One item popped out in your talk, Stef. You said something to the effect that "rapture" meant (or was closely related to) genocide. I looked it up and found no such reference. Beyond the religious Christo-millennialist trappings, rapture basically means "seized and taken away" or "a feeling of great joy". I can suspect an epistemology relating rapture to rape or rapacious, but genocide? Could you touch upon that, or was it more a metaphorical remark?
LOVE your work. Always watch, always learn.
StringDancerCom 9 months ago
@StringDancerCom Well the rapture has pretty much everyone left behind dying horribly. That's religious genocide to me. I think you're confusing etymology with epistemology.
newperve 9 months ago
this explains the "goodness" of eugenics, and social hyper darwinism, this explains the abortion clinics all around the world as something good right? because good people can't be bad and bad people can't be good?
PBLOVSH 9 months ago
I didn't get the Bill Cosby Reference.
Robinsonero 9 months ago
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offramp100 9 months ago
@stefbot As usual, whenever you speak about spiritual things you show your ignorance. I like your anti-war, liberty, and economic videos though.
fredrockt47 9 months ago
The death worship is so frustrating. I have noticed this with some people who can't seem to get motivated about much of anything.
johnpdd 9 months ago
Your assertions in the text box that religion screws up physics and biology would be interesting topics for interviews with folks like Michał Heller or Martin Nowak.
I'm an Anarchist and a Quaker. If that seems like a deep contradiction to you I guess you just need to get out a bit more... ;->
offramp100 9 months ago
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johnpdd 9 months ago 2
Far from your best work Stef. You do realize how much you resemble a preacher on your videos don't you? Of course your religion, anarcho-capitalism, is an atheist one, but it clearly provides the same sort of holistic integrative conceptual framework for your life that the various theism's provide for their believers
offramp100 9 months ago
@offramp100 How does he resemble a preacher? Is it that he is trying to convince someone of moral truths? In that case a businessman who has a good investment opportunity that he has thoughly researched and evaluated and which he believes in enough to invest large amounts of his own money resembles a con man.
newperve 9 months ago
Pretty shallow argument Stefbot, afterall you might want to open your mind and look beyond christianity, there are more sophistcated religions out there, such as buddhism, which is totally different than Christianity.
ollie370 9 months ago
@ollie370 Buddhism is far more death-worshipping than Christianity. At least Christians are trying to live, Buddhists are trying to die. They're actively seeking to avoid living, it's a suicide complicated by the presumed fact of reincarnation.
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve
Sorry youre totally wrong about that. Do some research before making uninformed comments.
ollie370 9 months ago
@ollie370 What is nirvana if not death? What would you call not feeling anything for eternity? It's certainly not pleasure because you have to not want anything to get it, and what is pleasure but getting what you want. Buddhism talks about life after death and how to avoid it.
newperve 9 months ago
I believe good and evil are actions not mysterious forces. Of course thoughts can be negative or positive but can lead to good actions or evil actions.
TheAmercanSkeptic 9 months ago
This would be a good sermon for a meeting of National Socialists (Nazis).
FGTBOGSAT 9 months ago
spirit moves in all things
bluefly28 9 months ago
Hmm...
There are no atheists in a foxhole or on a death bed.
FGTBOGSAT 9 months ago
@FGTBOGSAT
look up "atheists in foxholes" or militaryatheists(dot)org
thegillotine09 9 months ago
@FGTBOGSAT Your are a liar My oncle was a proud atheist nothing change on his death bed. You are are liar sir!!!
233yvan 9 months ago
@FGTBOGSAT "'There are no atheists in foxholes' isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes." James Morrow. Why should we take special notice of beliefs formed at one's deathbed? Especially since many would be throwing the dice on Pascal's wager. Beliefs formed for their benefit to the believer are known as delusions.
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve An atheist wouldn't need a foxhole to begin with because an atheist would never leave the negotiation table without a win/win scenario for both sides in place thus averting the need for foxholes altogether.
AceOfHeart2012 9 months ago
@AceOfHeart2012 Yeah because there haven't been any irrational atheists.
/watch?v=nLqplbwD644
newperve 9 months ago
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idahodad1 9 months ago
stefs economic views - awful.
stefs religious views - pretty good.
meadowsirl 9 months ago
Just like the rational mind is disabled by mistaking the ego for the inner voice, the human heart is burdened by eight potential bondages:
1. Grief 2. Shame 3. Familial pride 4. Tribal pride 5. Fear
6. Smugness 7. Condemnation 8. Hatred
From my own experience, there is no angrier atheist than one who is also a recovering catholic, who will suffer under the weight of these bondages until they understand the vast difference between religion and spirituality. Strange how very few meditate.
CitizenZTV 9 months ago
another great intellectual spanknig..
surfchixful 9 months ago
I really REALLY enjoy all your videos and related website!! I recently found your youtube site and really can't get enough. I find all of your discussion mentally stimulating and enlightening on so many levels. Keep up the good work, you have a new fan. Thank You!!!
ClassicalRay 9 months ago
@ClassicalRay Then pay him.
newperve 9 months ago
I've yet to donate to you for changing my life and world outlook, so feel free to disregard my selfish ass on this one, but I much prefer this style of video over all the interviews you've been doing recently. Just my two cents (and acknowledgement of the lack thereof in transit to you on my part).
SpeakMouthWords 9 months ago
Far too many listeners do not listen. We pick and choose what we want to hear to fit out outlook on life and discard or mock the rest.
deadman12078 9 months ago
I wish you would do more videos like this. I am not sure whether politics or religion is doing more damage to humanity, but I have my guesses.
MrStillmans 9 months ago
Hmmmmmm........
The problem with these anarchist types, is that their ONLY solution to everything, is to hav eno rules, and no one policing the rules.
I just wonder if stephbot turns into a vampire, once he is unchained from his tormentous slavery.
Its ok for him saying that govt is bad, but if govt were gone, would he pull out a gun, and say "THATS THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE, BABY" ??
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 9 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome - Lets just say that your presumptions are way off. If you really want answers why don't you read some of his books.
linkdead14 9 months ago
@linkdead14:
Why would i pay for books, written by someone who wants to drink my blood, as soon as I kill the govt, for him ?
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 9 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome - Because they're free, and no one wants your blood because it smells like a troll.
linkdead14 9 months ago
@linkdead14:
Nothing is free, if you have to download it !
Stick a black cape on him, and he's a lawyer - thats all i can see !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 9 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome - I gatta go wash the troll off me. Have a good day.
linkdead14 9 months ago
@linkdead14:
You won't get it off - it IS you !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 9 months ago
@linkdead14 Ownage.
DaveElectric 9 months ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Actually it's the State who wants to have not rules (that apply to it or it's friends) and nobody enforcing the rules (against themselves or their friends). Anarchists are fine with rules, that's why we talk about polycentric law, privately made law, etc and we're fine with people enforcing those rules, which is why Stef wrote about DROs. If Stef turns into a rapist, murdering bastard once the State goes away then I guess one of our DROs will shoot him.
newperve 9 months ago
@newperve:
Ok, soz !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 9 months ago
And it should be noted that there's an important difference between "there is evil in the best of us" and "all people have the potential to do evil things". The first is degrading to those who strive to be virtuous, the second is simply a practical approach to viewing people rationally. After all, if there were incorruptible people, that would be an argument for statism.
thegillotine09 9 months ago
I found the "good in a bad person" argument too vague for me to agree with because you never defined what: A) The worst of us implies and B) What you would consider some good.
But the point is I guess that it's caused more harm than good worth redeeming for.
Salvial1 9 months ago
I actually disagree with part of the first half of the video, particularly regarding viewing people as unredeemable or defective. In my opinion, such a viewpoint is dangerously close to advocating the end of reasoned argument and the dehumanization that precedes violence. I do understand that it is often necessary to give up on someone who is violent or abusive, but to regard people as fundamentally and permanently beyond change or improvement is to regard them as less than human.
thegillotine09 9 months ago
@thegillotine09
". . . to regard people as fundamentally and permanently beyond change or improvement is to regard them as less than human".
I agree with that. One very popular view is that it is not worth the efforf to reform bad or mad people like Charles Manson. Hence the invention of the guillotine and other forms of State-sanctioned execution.
My view is that it is worth the effort if we are to be a civilised society. In other words we must set the standard of hope and mercy.
patrickcorliss 9 months ago
This whole rapture deal exposed just how selfish a lot of religious worshipers are.
DeathTax101 9 months ago 3
Which brings me back to the Rapture.. Which is not taught in the bible and it shows the stupidity of such "Christians" who would believe in such a thing that conflicts with Christ's own words. He said nobody (including himself) would know the time or day of his return and only God knew the time. So when some preacher claims to have knowledge that even the right hand of God doesn't have access too.. Well you just can't help but laugh.
LeJimster 9 months ago
"Stefbot's Ark!?" All aboard while there's still time!
AndrewTheRed1 9 months ago
How do you explain the drawings of humans & dinosaurs?
MYTHECIES 9 months ago
@MYTHECIES In creationists museums? As a delusion and propaganda.
Or did you mean any other?
Bishop38f8 9 months ago
Throughout the entirety of our race of "misery monkeys" (aka humanoids), Good = what I like/want/choose to believe and Evil = what I do not like/want. Good is do what I (we) say/do. Evil is what others do that I do not 'beLIEve'/desire/support. Arbitrary (evil) is as arbitrary (evil) does. FKN period. Forever and Ever. Ahem!
lonewolfmtnz 9 months ago 2
While I LOL'd at the rapture stuff, I do feel like you are describing the worst of organized religion while ignoring the good. Many scientists, artists, architects and great minds of our history were Religious and it did not hinder their work. As I always say, science is a great tool for telling us how things work in our universe. But if you want to know the WHY?, you are left with religion, philosophy and personal faith in "something more". I don't see there is as a conflict personally.
LeJimster 9 months ago
It's a MIRACLE, the world didn't end!!! Halleluja!!!
See, the utimate proof of divine intervention!!!
(yes, it's irony)
LarsGAndersson 9 months ago
Wow, just wow.. I have to disagree with what you were saying with your examples. In your world view it appears that only GOOD and EVIL exist and there is no redemption. This is just scary to me. Because we are all human and we make mistakes. Some more than others.. And yes there is good and bad in everyone, even the worst criminals have good in them somewhere and this has nothing to do with having a soul or not. People aren't so simple that you can just put them in box A or box B.
LeJimster 9 months ago