Hubbard thought starting a religion would be a great way to make money and wrote about it in fact before he started Scientology. People have been tricked. People with money suddenly get all the things you want in life as so as and as long as they keep giving money in the millions. You want a husband and child and they will find that for you and keep you happy.
Being from Canada I'm not familiar with this reporter, but I have to say how impressed I am. He 'out-witted' Tommy Davis several times during their conversations unlike any other reporter I've seen before.
Man, every time a new celebrity says they've taken up scientology I lose some respect for them... not that I had any to begin with. I guess it's not that much crazier than christianity or islam, fortunately it has a lot fewer followers.
Last week I thought there was going to be another story on scientology on today tonight but it didn't air. Do you know anything about it, what happened?
Do you not realize that that makes no sense? How in the World can atheism be fundamentalist? All it is is a lack of belief in God. That does not lend itself to anything that can be called fundamentalist the way a Christian can be fundamentalist with regard to the Bible. Dawkins and the rest go beyond atheism, they are anti-theists.
"Ideally I am striving to be that God" Okay now that's the Scientology I remember. Never hardly a word was spoken about God except in the context that we could become like a god.
A bit off topic; I know Erika Christensen was using the Cleopatra bit as an example, but it reminded me of others who believe they've lived as humans before...and its almost ALWAYS someone famous in history. That just tells me they have a gigantic ego. "I was no mere peasant in a former life, I was a King, or a Queen." lol
egg I'm glad that you posted this. Christians and other religious continually spout how their religion makes them feels good and completes them. Other religions can see how it comes from the inside. Atheists don't need a faith to feel these same feelings. Our own existence and helping better our species is enough. Whatever comes comes.
Atheists have faith in some things though. LIke...that science can explain
everything, and that the gap between religion and science will one day close. I don't see that ever happening though. Noone can ever know what really happened at the beginning. All we have are theories and inferrences. NOt enough.
@hopokuk you won't pretend like all faiths once you embrace it it will change your way of thinking and make you feel like it is correct, important and completes you. And that you will be rewarded.
How can this idiot call himself a journalist? He is one of the most stupid people on Australian TV. He completely misrepresents everyone, the editing is awful, the questions are leading. Don't get me wrong I'm definately no supporter of Scientology, but I'm no supporter of Today Tonight either.
There was not one celebrity they interviewed who wasn't runerable at the time they joined. They hadn't spent deep time thinking about the world and what they believed they were just desperate for social support and got sucked into this bullshit. Religion preys on the weak
You can kind of understand the celebrities' motivations for accepting it, but I have only contempt for the people twisting their genuine need for guidance into a money-spinning cult.
It seems like most people join this bullshit because they are doing bad things or drugs and they are not happy. A lot of people need the psychological boost. The irony is that Scientology dismisses psychology. I don't know how you dismiss a subject but whatever.
(continued from previous post)Even about the point concerning Scientology using coercive practices, the people of the established religions like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism, must realize that at one point in each of these religions history, coercion was used to subdue apostates or people of different faiths. Every religion, when seeking hegemony, employs these practices, especially when they feel their endeavor for dominance is being threatened by a competing superstition.
The only people who can criticize Scientology, and its practitioners, about the actual belief system, are atheists. People of other faiths can criticize Scientology, if they are guilty of coercion, but they cannot criticize Scientology for their odd and unsubstantiated beliefs, because all the major religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc.) all have beliefs about the spirit world, and our metaphysical state, that cannot be substantiated, and are just as irrational (continued).
@compsciguy Which atheists are you speaking of? I have never heard of any well educated atheist positing that we came from rocks. When it comes to the origins of life (abiogenesis is different from evolution), or the origins of the universe, atheists have the decency to say that we don't know exactly how it all came to be. It is the theist, who in his arrogant presumption, claims to know exactly how this all started. Nothing could be more arrogant that this (continued).
@compsciguy (continued from previous response)The problem with the theist claim to knowledge that “God did it” is that this is not an explanation at all. For it begs the further question of how did God come to be? If the theist responds that “God just is”, as if that were a brute fact, then how is that any better than saying “life and the universe just is”, as if that were a brute fact? Postulating a God has no explanatory value, and raises more questions than it resolves.
It doesn't matter if one man believes in a rhino god, and another believes in a owl god. The bigger picture remains the same. Religion is man made bullshit.
People believe in reincarnation to overcome their of death but if they were reincarnated and didn't have memories of their old life, the person they were is still dead.
And where do all the new souls come from. What happens when the world population peaks, are souls going to shack up and share bodies?
These people dont want to talk about spirits, reincarnation, and god because they know that deep down their beliefs are crazy as shit, but they cling to them because they are afraid of the unknown and death.....
Christianity is just as fucking nutts crazy people.
I watched that documentary with John Sweeny in, I feel rather sorry for the guy, he was really calm through a lot of them following him around, just imagine how bad it must have gotten for him to lose his compusure like that?
Of course the celebrity's don't see the controlling side of Scientology, they are the the poster boys and girls who sell the cult/mob to ordinary people who are looking for enlightenment, instead of using rational thought.
Many people feel the need to believe, and they aspire to be rich and famous like the celebs, so when they see celebs joining a religion........ SOLD to the suckers with no mind of their own!
Religion is just a lottery ticket, a dream of better things without thought or effort.
I have an hypothesis that all the cash gouged from the masses is pumped into making Scientology look incredible to the celebrity members. The faces of Scientology do not see the slave labour, or hear about thetans, xenu, beatings or abortions. They see a nice, successful, mostly benign religion.
If the celebs knew the reality, they wouldn't be so quick to endorse it would they. It amazes me that even these big names have been brain washed, but a different wash cycle to that used to draw in the, not so rich, simpletons.
The worrying aspect is that Australia is becoming the new religious battleground as the evangelist rip-off merchants are being convicted in the US, and secularism is growing, so the con artists have to find new places to practice.
Nancy's own hesitation to answer the question about believing in God just goes to show how little she actually considers what sense her religion makes and is just looking for some justified excuse to pretend she's happier than before. Ugh.
i dont understand people. what happened to the human brain??? i thought human brains got bigger and evolved and became smarter! monkeys are smarter than the people who believes in gods! im utterly lost. ?????????
I missed these as I tend to watch ACA. But Yikes to the 10th degree!! I do wonder if Hollywood is becoming like, if you're not in Scientology, you'll never get a part. Why else are so many actors scientologists? You want the part, you want fame? Join.
Sure you can send the vomit, but i suggest first you send them a pamphlet about the vomit offering a book and audio book series also about the vomit for 159:99 and after they have read that a $10000 series of course so they can truly understand the vomit and how it affects their life. Don't forget your cans + battery that you can sell for 1200 bucks ;)
Back in 1977, I walked into the Hollywood office of Scientology, after being propositioned on the street to come in and participate. Being a naive science student who never heard of these cultists, I went in and filled out the questionnaire. Within a few minutes, I got a creepy feeling that I cannot explain. I felt like I had been had and was not told the whole story behind what they were about. I left fast. Their name threw me off, thinking science was behind it. Boy was I wrong!
Hubbard thought starting a religion would be a great way to make money and wrote about it in fact before he started Scientology. People have been tricked. People with money suddenly get all the things you want in life as so as and as long as they keep giving money in the millions. You want a husband and child and they will find that for you and keep you happy.
christinepeace 9 months ago
$cientology is built upon the foundation of fail.
Nagneto 1 year ago
Being from Canada I'm not familiar with this reporter, but I have to say how impressed I am. He 'out-witted' Tommy Davis several times during their conversations unlike any other reporter I've seen before.
fitzmahoney 1 year ago
Man, every time a new celebrity says they've taken up scientology I lose some respect for them... not that I had any to begin with. I guess it's not that much crazier than christianity or islam, fortunately it has a lot fewer followers.
BrianDgreat123 1 year ago
ugh say it aint so Bart!
HistorysMysterys 1 year ago
Last week I thought there was going to be another story on scientology on today tonight but it didn't air. Do you know anything about it, what happened?
Titania1 1 year ago
OMG MICHAEL MYERS IS A SCIENTOLOGIST! I thought he was a Cult of Thorn
Druid preist! No wonder he's so crazy....he can't decide which religion to follow!
compsciguy 1 year ago
Whats painful to see is, the whole media opposing Scientology when Christianity does essentially the same...
Egondv 1 year ago
Oh, that's it! Nancy Cartwright (voice of Bart Simpson) gives $10,000,000 to Scientology every year. Never going to watch The Simpsons again.
Valelacerte 1 year ago
"millions and millions of times." I wasn't aware humanity has had several million generations. Science fail
DeflocculatedDentist 1 year ago
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@DeflocculatedDentist
Humans have been around since the Big Bang. What are you talking about?
compsciguy 1 year ago
I really don't understand how to have a bunch of actors endorse your cult is supposed to make it more legitimate..
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 1 year ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi
Arguing from authory. What about Fundie Atheism? Endorsed by
Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Chris HItchens, Lance Armstrong,
and Jodie Foster? Lee STrobel, Antony Flew, and C.S. Lewis were all former atheists who finally found God. Look it up.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy
"Fundie Atheism"
Do you not realize that that makes no sense? How in the World can atheism be fundamentalist? All it is is a lack of belief in God. That does not lend itself to anything that can be called fundamentalist the way a Christian can be fundamentalist with regard to the Bible. Dawkins and the rest go beyond atheism, they are anti-theists.
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 1 year ago
I'm never watching the simpsons again.
If you are a scientologist...YOU ARE MEMBER OF A FUCKING CULT FUCK YOU FREAKS
Neutrinoghost 1 year ago
wow Nancy Cartwright is really dumb.
anthonzi 1 year ago
Vegeta! What does the e-meter say about Scientology's bullshit level?
It's over nine thousaaaand!
AnonymousDiv0 1 year ago
10 million freak'n dollars a year....
What a scam. a huge freak'n scam...
ugh!!!!
mrx0066600 1 year ago
Holy shit she is immortal, she is highlander!
lordtalon69 1 year ago
Hi egg are u going to the Atheist convention in Melbourne starting the 12-14th March? If so we should catch up for a beer. regards, Joe
JosephPatrickMcmahon 1 year ago
Yes, I shall be there all weekend. Very much looking forward to it :)
askegg 1 year ago
"Ideally I am striving to be that God" Okay now that's the Scientology I remember. Never hardly a word was spoken about God except in the context that we could become like a god.
iamitchey 1 year ago
I think Tommy Davis is trying to emulate Tom Cruise. He has a bit of a crush on the maverick.
jdbadboy 1 year ago
That Tom Cruise laugh reminded me of Ted Haggard with Richard Dawkins.
BoozyBeggar 1 year ago
A bit off topic; I know Erika Christensen was using the Cleopatra bit as an example, but it reminded me of others who believe they've lived as humans before...and its almost ALWAYS someone famous in history. That just tells me they have a gigantic ego. "I was no mere peasant in a former life, I was a King, or a Queen." lol
SillyCyban 1 year ago
egg I'm glad that you posted this. Christians and other religious continually spout how their religion makes them feels good and completes them. Other religions can see how it comes from the inside. Atheists don't need a faith to feel these same feelings. Our own existence and helping better our species is enough. Whatever comes comes.
Satanicallyfree 2 years ago
@Satanicallyfree
Atheists have faith in some things though. LIke...that science can explain
everything, and that the gap between religion and science will one day close. I don't see that ever happening though. Noone can ever know what really happened at the beginning. All we have are theories and inferrences. NOt enough.
compsciguy 1 year ago
The most evil brainwashing fiasco ever invented. Making people insane, one person at a time.
Satanicallyfree 2 years ago
@Satanicallyfree
Then tell the cops.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy Lol. That's not even worth a response.
Satanicallyfree 1 year ago
Xenu(*)net
soulinite 2 years ago
wow the hope=B.S. that they will sell is freaking funny!
smashbeans 2 years ago
If I join Scientology and pretend to believe in it will I get to get a girlfriend and have sex?
hopokuk 2 years ago 2
Sure, why not.
askegg 2 years ago
@hopokuk you won't pretend like all faiths once you embrace it it will change your way of thinking and make you feel like it is correct, important and completes you. And that you will be rewarded.
Satanicallyfree 2 years ago
@hopokuk : Only if you are willing to submit to buttseck and give all your money to Slappy Miscavige.
Nagneto 1 year ago
I think I threw up a little...
benzlover55 2 years ago
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stormypup 2 years ago 2
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askegg 2 years ago
Trolling re-reply
stormypup 2 years ago
Thank you for posting these, askegg!
deconverts 2 years ago
I like at around, 7:35, the woman laughs when the interviewer's asks if she could come back as a dolphin or a fly, as if THAT idea is absurd...
thirtysilver 2 years ago 5
alot sadder than I thought it was gonna be
Leadman1989 2 years ago
L Ron Hubbard was a child abuser.
Google it!
vaaLLarr 2 years ago
LOL! "I don't think you will HAHA"
Chibling 2 years ago
They're taking over!
One city at a time.
theedwardashford 2 years ago
How can this idiot call himself a journalist? He is one of the most stupid people on Australian TV. He completely misrepresents everyone, the editing is awful, the questions are leading. Don't get me wrong I'm definately no supporter of Scientology, but I'm no supporter of Today Tonight either.
allthestarsinthesky 2 years ago
that brian guy kinda looks like venomfangX in someways
jullukka 2 years ago
@jullukka
It's his evil twin brother.
Wait....
nemo3590 2 years ago
xenu(dot)net
Whyweprotest(dot)org
great sites.
knusern666 2 years ago
Wackos, the lot of them.
nemo3590 2 years ago
There was not one celebrity they interviewed who wasn't runerable at the time they joined. They hadn't spent deep time thinking about the world and what they believed they were just desperate for social support and got sucked into this bullshit. Religion preys on the weak
mythinktube 2 years ago
Tommy Davis is such a freak. :D
stealthbadger 2 years ago
You can kind of understand the celebrities' motivations for accepting it, but I have only contempt for the people twisting their genuine need for guidance into a money-spinning cult.
ScepticalAgnostic 2 years ago
They all just look crazy by their faces.
I know im pulling a lombroso here
excandersham 2 years ago
@excandersham
I'm sure you look crazy too. I am. Join the club. Normal
is soooo olast year. Sanity is .sooo overrated
compsciguy 1 year ago
It seems like most people join this bullshit because they are doing bad things or drugs and they are not happy. A lot of people need the psychological boost. The irony is that Scientology dismisses psychology. I don't know how you dismiss a subject but whatever.
UncomfortableSilence 2 years ago
(continued from previous post)Even about the point concerning Scientology using coercive practices, the people of the established religions like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism, must realize that at one point in each of these religions history, coercion was used to subdue apostates or people of different faiths. Every religion, when seeking hegemony, employs these practices, especially when they feel their endeavor for dominance is being threatened by a competing superstition.
alphacause 2 years ago
The only people who can criticize Scientology, and its practitioners, about the actual belief system, are atheists. People of other faiths can criticize Scientology, if they are guilty of coercion, but they cannot criticize Scientology for their odd and unsubstantiated beliefs, because all the major religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc.) all have beliefs about the spirit world, and our metaphysical state, that cannot be substantiated, and are just as irrational (continued).
alphacause 2 years ago 2
@alphacause
And who gives atheists the upmost authority on making fun of ppl. Atheists believe
we came from rocks. That's even more absurd than coming from a deity.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy Which atheists are you speaking of? I have never heard of any well educated atheist positing that we came from rocks. When it comes to the origins of life (abiogenesis is different from evolution), or the origins of the universe, atheists have the decency to say that we don't know exactly how it all came to be. It is the theist, who in his arrogant presumption, claims to know exactly how this all started. Nothing could be more arrogant that this (continued).
alphacause 1 year ago
@compsciguy (continued from previous response)The problem with the theist claim to knowledge that “God did it” is that this is not an explanation at all. For it begs the further question of how did God come to be? If the theist responds that “God just is”, as if that were a brute fact, then how is that any better than saying “life and the universe just is”, as if that were a brute fact? Postulating a God has no explanatory value, and raises more questions than it resolves.
alphacause 1 year ago
@compsciguy That's abiogensis moron and IT"S NOT ATHIEST lot's of theists except it too in fact the guys who came up with thoery WAS A CHRISTIAN
Plus it's not rocks i challegene you to find me on science text that say rocks it's says non organic chemicals NOT FUCKING ROCKS
stop listening kent the liar hovid AND READ A SCIENCE BOOK
InquisitorDracomual 1 year ago
It doesn't matter if one man believes in a rhino god, and another believes in a owl god. The bigger picture remains the same. Religion is man made bullshit.
laurenOi 2 years ago
@laurenOi
And abiogenesis isn't? Dude....that theory states that all living matter
came from ROCKS! Impossible! Rocks CANNOT have babies!!
compsciguy 1 year ago
A belief in any religion or magic Gods, makes you a mental midget.
And you have no understanding of why your magic deities are false.
Keep blindly believing in bullshit, it's what you do best.
bigboy45454545 2 years ago
I can't believe how retarded these celebs are... ugh...
mrx0066600 2 years ago
wow the news can use simpsons clips there, that,s pretty cool. Scientologists are completely mental.
adrenacrumb 2 years ago 2
People believe in reincarnation to overcome their of death but if they were reincarnated and didn't have memories of their old life, the person they were is still dead.
And where do all the new souls come from. What happens when the world population peaks, are souls going to shack up and share bodies?
justintempler 2 years ago
These people dont want to talk about spirits, reincarnation, and god because they know that deep down their beliefs are crazy as shit, but they cling to them because they are afraid of the unknown and death.....
Christianity is just as fucking nutts crazy people.
tempemonkey2323 2 years ago 2
JUST FUCKING SAY IT NANCY
THEY TOLD US WE WERE GOD
Fuck!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I watched that documentary with John Sweeny in, I feel rather sorry for the guy, he was really calm through a lot of them following him around, just imagine how bad it must have gotten for him to lose his compusure like that?
Proudtobeacommie 2 years ago
I wonder if people of different religions will watch this and see some similarities to what the actors are saying? :S
TurboDally 2 years ago
Yep - and no decent human being would disagree with what she said, but what does that have to do with Scientology?
askegg 2 years ago
Of course the celebrity's don't see the controlling side of Scientology, they are the the poster boys and girls who sell the cult/mob to ordinary people who are looking for enlightenment, instead of using rational thought.
Many people feel the need to believe, and they aspire to be rich and famous like the celebs, so when they see celebs joining a religion........ SOLD to the suckers with no mind of their own!
Religion is just a lottery ticket, a dream of better things without thought or effort.
Sarge084 2 years ago
I have an hypothesis that all the cash gouged from the masses is pumped into making Scientology look incredible to the celebrity members. The faces of Scientology do not see the slave labour, or hear about thetans, xenu, beatings or abortions. They see a nice, successful, mostly benign religion.
askegg 2 years ago
If the celebs knew the reality, they wouldn't be so quick to endorse it would they. It amazes me that even these big names have been brain washed, but a different wash cycle to that used to draw in the, not so rich, simpletons.
The worrying aspect is that Australia is becoming the new religious battleground as the evangelist rip-off merchants are being convicted in the US, and secularism is growing, so the con artists have to find new places to practice.
Sarge084 2 years ago
"What is 'God'?"
*crickets*
TheD0ded0de 2 years ago
@TheD0ded0de God is a superstition. Glad I cleared that up for you.
pointmanzero 2 years ago
Thanks so much for uploading these, I was glued to the screen when watching it on TV.
And to whoever said they're not glad to live in Australia... what the heck? You think it's worse here? Nope, it's only just getting started.
Mahagawaga 2 years ago
These Scientologists talk about their "religion" with the same kind of praise that Christians use to describe their religion.
OutlawGrrl 2 years ago
When she answers the question about god with "To me...", it betrays her position.
Tcrowaf 2 years ago
Nancy's own hesitation to answer the question about believing in God just goes to show how little she actually considers what sense her religion makes and is just looking for some justified excuse to pretend she's happier than before. Ugh.
ultimatejesus 2 years ago
The last thing we want is this damned cult getting a serious foothold in this country. Fight them with every breath, Australia!
shraleina 2 years ago
I'm glad I don't live in Australia.
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
Geez, why? I love it here.
askegg 2 years ago
I was meaning more in regards to the Scientology movement. I'm sure it's lovely there otherwise.
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
Great vid!!!
mytv80 2 years ago
i dont understand people. what happened to the human brain??? i thought human brains got bigger and evolved and became smarter! monkeys are smarter than the people who believes in gods! im utterly lost. ?????????
mytv80 2 years ago
Bart cant explain what she believes in. How sad is that. She was a dear in the headlights.
a300pilotster 2 years ago
She's striving to become God. That's kind of twisted.
ThaGMan51 2 years ago
Erika Christensen needs some serious DICK. lulz.
bhxinfected 2 years ago
Believe in my religion because this random famous celebrity does.
Raptor302 2 years ago
havent they heard of Buddhism??? well almost... =/
zikzell 2 years ago
That's the problem with actors and actresses: they spend so much of their time acting out fiction that it begins to creep into their actual lives.
Raptor302 2 years ago 2
I missed these as I tend to watch ACA. But Yikes to the 10th degree!! I do wonder if Hollywood is becoming like, if you're not in Scientology, you'll never get a part. Why else are so many actors scientologists? You want the part, you want fame? Join.
lyvvie 2 years ago
Ahhh well!
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
Interesting stuff.
Waiting on 2 and 3.
Michigan1985 2 years ago
God those people are out to lunch! CULT!!
99minerkc 2 years ago
Cant they make a little more contemporary religion?
Like beer drinking, a choir of bikini clad women, a barbeque, pool table in the middle of church, and x-box?
Then I'd go ;)
rastarigate 2 years ago
Okay. Watched the vid. Can I vomit now?
Can I send it to them?
philhellenes 2 years ago 5
At least wait for the other 2 parts to upload :)
askegg 2 years ago
Too late. But there's space in the bucket.
philhellenes 2 years ago
Sure you can send the vomit, but i suggest first you send them a pamphlet about the vomit offering a book and audio book series also about the vomit for 159:99 and after they have read that a $10000 series of course so they can truly understand the vomit and how it affects their life. Don't forget your cans + battery that you can sell for 1200 bucks ;)
Samakain 2 years ago
so scientologists believe in god?
jHotmetala 2 years ago
it's frightening how they never lose eye contact...ever
cowpacino 2 years ago
Dammit... The voice of Bart is a scientologist...? What won't scientology corrupt...?
Cyrathil 2 years ago 4
Scary stuff to have them around.!!!
no1saphead 2 years ago 2
Back in 1977, I walked into the Hollywood office of Scientology, after being propositioned on the street to come in and participate. Being a naive science student who never heard of these cultists, I went in and filled out the questionnaire. Within a few minutes, I got a creepy feeling that I cannot explain. I felt like I had been had and was not told the whole story behind what they were about. I left fast. Their name threw me off, thinking science was behind it. Boy was I wrong!
saxmanchiro 2 years ago 3
The evil Lord Zenu deposited my soul here in a volcano.
insightnew 2 years ago 2
@insightnew , the evil me deposited a dumpsky on the scientology office floor!
99minerkc 2 years ago 2
Today I am a god :D
TingTang1234567 2 years ago