Re: !00% Proof Jesus is not God! The temptation of Jesus.

[Kingyeshuaswitness]

This is wrong, and theres no trinity. God is one, Yeshua is God embodied and his spirit's everywere. Watch my video, Yeshua our God is one on my channel.

[LynElise25]

The BEST way to explain the Trinity is to use water as and example. A little Water from ONE cup can be made a solid, and a little more can be made a gas. It is all still WATER. The solid goes from liquid to solid, and if you melt it you can pour it back in the cup and it is a liquid again. Just as Jesus was here before the world as He said in John. So He went from Spirit to spirit in flesh to spirit again. The Spirit is ONE just as the water is still WATER.

[LynElise25]

What is God? He is Spirit. The Father, and the Spirit IN Jesus Christ is ONE Spirit. This is why Jesus said "I and My Father are One." We worship One God, which is ONE Spirit, which was manifested in the flesh.

[abbekhan]

Follow moses laws like pork,gambling,womens hijab,womens cutting hair,alcohol,casino,short cloths marrige with idoleters (non abramic religion man and womens) etc forbiden in moses book and in holy quran but its ok in jesus book and bibel claim jesus took our sinns on cross we have only way to heavens and others all religions shell burn in fire,WELL I JUST SAY WISE CAN REACH TRUTH AND UNDERSTAND MEANINGS OF LIFE ON EARTH WE ARE NOT ON PARTY ON EARTH AS BIBEL SAYS,

[abbekhan]

I must go if i do not go he shell not come ,WHO IS THAT SOUL? Ten in moses book original hebrow book songs of solomon Prophet mohammed pbuh written by name MOHAMMED IM ,well im its for respect and JEWS AND CHRISTIANS translate mohammed im beloved one WHO IS BELOVED ONE normal peoples know not who is beloved one,Why almighty sent jesus after moses,Moses book was complet law book but jesus book is not complet law book like moses or h quran,Its scandel jews refuse jesus and christians refuse to

[abbekhan]

WHEN MOSES BOOK WAS BADLY CORRUPTED CAME JESUS TO COMPLET MOSES BOOK jesus self said in new book ok if you hide sun behind finger refuse to accept then its another thing but truth is that jesus never came for to bring new religion and wise,educated,honest peoples have no choice only convert to islam or IDOLETERY,

mAKE OWN GOD AND WORSHIP HIM,

Honestly christian faith have many many error,

Jesus self said in new book soul of truth shell come after me his huge sign is most honest,truthfull

[abbekhan]

In west they make idole of jesus blond hairs,blue eyes jesus was plestinian peoples of plestine have no blue eyes and blond hairs and Jesus never said cross is holy,forbiden thing in moses book like pork,adultry,blood,gambling,wo­mens hijab etc ok in my new book,Jesus never said i BRING NEW RELIGION FOR JEWS OR NON JEWS,DID HE SAID ,WHERE?

Jesus or moses never USED WORD GOD IN THERE WHOLE LIFE ON EARTHdid they used word god? no never ever,

honestly christian faith self made faith,peace

[abbekhan]

BIBEL SAYS once out side of jurslem city devil said to jesus if you liston to me i can told you secrets of universe and heavens and jesus throw stone to devil said go away hated devil i shell liston to you so question is if jesus was GOD why devil came to him God Almighty created devil not jesus and jesus never said i am god i created all creatures and civilizations,universe and heavens,

[PastorIblis]

Why would an ALL power God make the only way that he the ALL power God can forgive is by blood shed? WHY? This God is ALL Powerful he could have said I can forgive you by you flapping your arms like a bird on sundays. He is ALL Powerful he could do anything according to Christian logic. Yet his only solution was human sacrifice of himself? WHO WAS HE TRYING TO IMPRESS? HIMSELF????

[TrustinJC]

@PastorIblis

The essence of life itself is in our blood. This is why it is a sin to eat flesh that still has blood in it. All meat is to be fully cooked.

Also, covenants between people were made with blood. God entered into a new covenant with us with the sacrifice of the lamb (Jesus)

Circumcision (another covenant) requires blood letting.

You need to also understand why lambs were sacrificed and why Christ represents the sacrifical lamb. Please research it.

[PastorIblis]

@TrustinJC

You have not explained WHY an ALL powerful being MUST have BLOOD sacrifice?

Life being in the blood that means DNA it is NOT litteral!

In so many places you want to say this is symbolic but in select areas that excuse the blood lust you are well this means litteral blood.

You are picking and choosing what is litteral and what isn't based entirely on CHURCH dogma!

[PastorIblis]

Actually Jesus was married because there are 3 things a Jewish father does for his son (at that time)

1. Teach him the Torra. - This was done

2.  Teach him a Trade. - This was done

3. Arrange his marriage - This Christians say was not done? Yet Jesus first miracle was turning water to wine at a wedding where the bride and groom are not named. Add to that Jesus was very upset that there was no wine.

His being married would not be a sin yet Christians reject this WHY?

[PastorIblis]

And yes there is evidence to support the notion that not only was he married but also that he had a child if not children. There is a specific term used for that bloodline.

However under Jewish law it would be a sin to claim to be God.

That would be called Blasphmey!

Then there is the statement about drinking his blood.

This was a violation of the old testament law.

[TrustinJC]

@PastorIblis

Regarding the Torra and a trade. Those things are taught to any son, but especially to the first born. For the first born male is given to God and then is bought back (through sacrifice).

Just because Jesus was at a wedding does not in any way suggest he was married.

And Jesus wasn't upset that there was no wine. He simply said it wasn't his problem.

Con't

[PastorIblis]

@TrustinJC

Then WHY did he say Now is not the time for him to reveal what he could do?

Yet turns around and DOES turn water to wine.

What sin is there in getting married?

What is so EVIL in being married or having children?

Why would a God that says be fruitful and multiply have a massive issue with Marriage of Children.

These ideas conflict and make it that you can not please this being!

[TrustinJC]

@Pastorlblis

It would not have been a sin for Jesus to marry. But there were many teachings that he gave that go to show he wasn't. As well, being married is a very significant thing, and therefore would have been mentioned if he had married.

Jesus, for example, said some are born enuchs, some are made enuchs and some choose to be enuchs. This means unmarried.

[EverydayRevival]

@PastorIblis because it's completely unfounded and fictitious.

[LamboDrifting]

God is head of Christ (I Corinthians 11:3)

Authority is given to jesus he didnt own. And Jesus came and said to them all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me (Matt 28:18) How can God be recipiant of Authority when he is the source of it?

[LamboDrifting]

Jesus called the Father My God Matt 27:46 John 29:17 How can God have a God?

Jesus said my father is greater than I John 14:28 In conflict with the trinity that says they are equal.

Jesus recognized that the father was the only true God

That they might know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. John 17:3

So not only did Jesus pray, but he also called Father ONLY TRUE GOD

Jesus did not consider himself God as he said

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing

[daren99]

read Heb 1 you will see God call the son God

[LamboDrifting]

Im sorry but trinity is not consitent with what i posted below.

Why did Jesus say no one is good expect God alone if he was God? Isnt/ wasnt he god yet here he wasnt talking about himself.

[LamboDrifting]

Notice in Mark 10:18 the word "alone": "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good except God alone."

Jesus in this verse is clearly giving exclusivity to GOD Almighty when he said "alone". If Jesus was truly part of GOD Almighty and/or the trinity lie was true, then Jesus, to say the least, would not have said that.

[TrustinJC]

Lambo

Jesus tells us that the greatest in heaven will be those who are the most humble.

Jesus understood that if he accepted any compliment without giving the glory to God he would be opening the door to temptation by way of pride.

Jesus was simply giving the glory to God for him being the person that he was.

The trinity consists of three spirits with the father as the God head.

This passage does not conflict with the trinity.

[LamboDrifting]

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4

"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29

Notice also how Jesus said "our God", which included him to be under GOD Almighty's creation and Divine Authority, and not someone or an entity that is equal to GOD Almighty.

[TrustinJC]

Lambo

I don't think you have a true understanding of what christians understand the trinity to be or what it means when Jesus emptied himself of his divinity while in the bodily form of Jesus.

Jesus submitted himself to the Godhead, but he was still part of the holy trinity. Jesus was still God, but he emptied himself of his divinity so that he could also be fully human. For he could not have been considered fully human if he did not have all the weaknesses of man.

[EverydayRevival]

@LamboDrifting Jesus was quoting Old Testament scripture that his audience would have been familiar with already, not placing Himself below God.

[baltimark]

Good answer. Even a beautiful answer.

Have you noticed that people who don't know Christ are utterly confused not just about God but everything else too?

[LamboDrifting]

The Original Bible never said Jesus was God or his son!

watch?v=w3pcrTeUyvA&feature=re­lated

[1994DavidLotro]

Yes it did.

[cademars39]

So if Jesus emptied himself of all of his divinity then he was just a man? So the christians are worshipping a man right? Not a God? Or was he half man / half God?

[QYKLIM]

Jesus christ isnt God. He is the son of God. What are you saying???

[1994DavidLotro]

he's both God, and his son.

[TrueOutpouring]

I agree completely - excellent response.

[talanporsche]

GREAT video my brother.May the LORD ALWAY'S use you to establish his glorious kingdom.GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

[sum1thatcares]

I mean I AGREE with lavern !!

[sum1thatcares]

I AGREE!!!

[TrustinJC]

jferox

I'm not sure how it happened, but it looks like your comment appeared on the wrong vid. did you mean to ask this question here?

[jferox]

@TrustinJC

yeah that's strange, I'll figure out what video it's suppose to be on and repost.

[1994DavidLotro]

Hi, i'm David, 15, from London, Um I just want to know, *by the way I am a Catholic*, I want to know, the mountain that could see all the kingdoms of Earth? Was that a mountain the Devil just made or was it a real mountain. And evolution you said it can be explained by the Bible, I agree in some ways also, but um what do you think about our relation to monkeys and what scientists say about that.

[eyezopennow]

i think alot of Muslims are confused with the trinity, thinking Jesus is God the Father. I recently drew 2 illustrations being one with God having 3 personalities, and another having 3 seperate persons, but all apart of the God head, and the people chose the 3 personalities of 1 person for being what they were taught. I think the Muslim who made that video thinks that we think Jesus is God the Father. I heard a speaker say our God needs 3 personalities to contain Himself too...what do u think?

[TrustinJC]

eyezopennow

Most people I've dealt with who reject the trinity seem to understand what the Christian belief is but refuse to accept it. They understand that Jesus is considered to be the son while the the father is the godhead and the holy spirit is the actual spirt which communicates with us, convicts us, and counsels us. Prophets of old would recieve different measures of the Holy Spirit.

I think the guy making the vid understands this but denys that it can be true.

Con't

[TrustinJC]

The three different persons is a bit different from having 3 different personalities. I don't think personalities is a good description.

They have 3 different roles though.

There are many descriptions and applications of the three being seperate. But there are also some of them being one. Jesus is said to be God, yet we are also told there is only ONE God.

The 3 are in perfect sync, unity, and harmony.

[eyezopennow]

i just don't see how ONE person can be 3 different person. When we get to heaven, will we see God and Jesus at the same time? I believe there is one God, with three different persons operating within it, but those persons are seperate deities, operating in unison. is this what u think? The book of Enoch states that the son of man was named in a day before the beginning of creation.

[godisandibelieve]

God the Father. Jesus the son and the Holy Ghost are 3 spirits. God the creator, Jesus the savior, The Holy Ghost the comforter. All are a part of God the same as we are a part of our earthly Dads. They have the same spiritual DNA if you will. Rich

[eyezopennow]

Well what i've been taught is that Jesus, The Father, and the Holy Spirit, are all 3 different personalities of the same ONE God, instead of 3 different persons, operating in unison with distinctive roles.

[godisandibelieve]

Who is correct? There are beliefs all over the place. Can we all be correct? Does it really matter? Who do you pray to? I pray to God in Jesus name. That is taught in scripture. How do you pray?

[DanieruDesu]

same here without question Jesus is the only God i would serve :D

[WarriorOfPrayers]

Absolutely I would love to serve a God like that. He didn't only die for one person or two or three or even hundreds, he died for every single breathing person on this planet today and yesterday and in the future.

[faithfulstronghold]

Well done.

[godisandibelieve]

But, he is not the almighty God the creator of Heaven and earth any more than my child is me. My child is a part of me. That is why the Bible teaches the 3 distinct entities Father, Son and Holy Ghost. They are all a part of God. When Jesus was teaching the disciples to pray he (Jesus) said pray this way in my name. Our Father who art in heaven. Was he talking to himself again? Think about what you are saying.

[godisandibelieve]

How can you say Jesus is God? What I don't understand is If Jesus is God who was Jesus talking to when he said while hanging on the cross "MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE THOU FORSAKEN ME"? WHEN JESUS SAID FATHER FORGIVE THEM THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DO AS HE HUNG DYING ON THE CROSS. Was he talking to himself? I know that Jesus Christ is God's only Son. I believe in him as God's son and my savior. SEE MY 2ND COMMENT FOR FINISH OF THIS COMMENT

[TrustinJC]

godisandibelieve

The first thing to remember is that Jesus was still fully human while hanging on the cross. While the holy spirit had descended on him after his baptism and while he had a great measure of the spirit, he was still fully human. It was not until after his death and after he accomplished everything he needed to do while human that his divinity returned.

Con't

[TrustinJC]

godisanibelieve Pt 2

Col 1:15-19 reads: (NLT)

Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.

He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we cant see—

such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.

Everything was created through him and for him.

Con't

[TrustinJC]

ibelieve Pt 3

He existed before anything else,

and he holds all creation together.

Christ is also the head of the church,

which is his body.

He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything. For God in all his fullness

was pleased to live in Christ.

So we see here that Jesus is much more then just the son of God. Jesus holds all creation together.

God was talking to Jesus and the Holy Spirit in Genesis when he said, let "US" make.

Con't

[TrustinJC]

godisandibelieve

In the writings of Enoch God mentions that he has a son when God says "I and my son".

And in the story of creation in Enoch God describes how he calls the spirit of light and the spirit of creation to make the universe. God allso mentions in the story that He was in the light.

Gods explanation of creation in this story confirms the doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

[godisandibelieve]

My point exactly. There is a trinity and God is the head as Christ is the head of the church. Too many people bypass GOD and serve Jesus only. The bible says to pray to God in Jesus name. If you pray and serve only Jesus you have missed the boat and you are floundering alone in the water. God is the supreme head the beginning and the end. The alpha and omega. He is that he is. The great I am. Jesus is his Son The holy Ghost is our comfort and guide. But we must follow the chain of command.

[godisandibelieve]

Reading your profile I understand you lived most of your life as an atheist. That is why you have a hard time understanding Jesus is not God. He is the sole Son of God. He is a part of God the same as I am a part of my Dad. He is an important part of God and the sacrificial lamb. As I stated before Jesus is the way to God. No man goes before God but through Jesus Christ. If Jesus were God why would you need to go through him the get to him?

[godisandibelieve]

Yes, God lives in and through Christ just as he lives in us but that doesn't make us God. The truth is this is very simple. God is th head of the trinity. It is that simple. They are separate but yet one in the spirit. As we a one with God doesn't make us God but yet one in the spirit. Really simple when you think about it.

[alterdcrash]

This is such a great video Lavern,im glad you made it because i have learned much from this.

[netta2158]

Blessings of ELOHIM: YHWY, YEHSUA, HOLY SPIRIT. Amen. Wonderful video brother Lavern.  I actually placed this on a blog I run. I, too, want to serve our beloved FATHER ELOHIM I AM that I AM. May the ADONIA bless you abundantly. 8^)>

[TrustinJC]

netta

Thanks for the edification. I'm glad you feel blessed enough to want to share the vid.

Glory to our Lord.

[TrustinJC]

Ritsaart

I would like to thank you for telling me about this guys teachings and for suggesting I make the vid. The kind of lies he is spreading need to be brought into the open and have a light shone on them.

[Ritsaart]

Thanks Lavern! I requested this video.

The more I think of it the sillier it gets. I I lives in Jesus His time. And I asked Jesus: Hey, do you want to hang out with me and do some gambling. Would that instantly mean that He is not God? It is kinda insane.

I also think that Islam is based on a set of lies. They say that the crucifixion never happened. The claim that the bible is not the truth. Yet there is NO historical record of the quran. And the oldest manuscripts were burned,

Ritsaart