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  • hey gloxkk...your a typical fuckin sappy liberal communist democrat!! go save a tree u little peice of shit!!!!

  • @2:51 - twittering?

  • omg press ALT and F4 to skip the ad

  • I'm a Liberal but I don't think this guy should be used as an accurate representation of a Republican Cenk- he could easily have been a Demo.

  • RepubliKKKans are pervs and stalkers...Sick fucks!

  • I went to Yahoo Answers to ask what GOP stood for and someone said "Gay Old Perverts" lol, sad part is its true.

  • "voter vault" lmao, just as secure as the Seinfeld vault.

  • I don't think this reflects upon the Republican party; it reflects upon certain sick individuals.

  • agreed.

  • Why then, does it so often, go hand in hand with being a Republican. Scandal after scandal after scandal has turned out to be Republican ttwits.

  • it has zero to do with someone's political persuasion, the only reason you think it happens to republicans more is because the media likes to report right wingers doing bad things and usually give democrats a pass. Case in point, look at all the news coverage with Governor Elliot Spitzer cheating scandal for freaking weeks we heard about this. How much involved reporting was done on John Edwards who cheated on his wife who has cancer and had a love child!! way bigger story get little press.

  • @JLaw012 Prove it or stfu

  • @djangst. I gave a specific answer to prove exactly what i mean. Another example would be the media bias against the tea party movement labeling them "hateful" and "racist". Yet there is not ONE video of any tea party member making racist comments and the media did not cover the left wing protest against Bush where they would hang him in effigy, threaten his life, call him hitler, ALL the time yet did you see the media coming down on them about it?? NO! ...PROOF!

  • ...But it might be that those certain sick individuals happen to congregate together more in one party than the other :-D

  • governments a pretty scary thing. seems like they cause more harm then do good

  • I don't believe in the government, its just a myth.

  • the republican party is for wealthy, white MEN...this isn't shocking. What a creep...at least w.this republican its women his own age.

  • republicans anyway dont care about women rights

  • Republicans dont care about male rights either.....unless you have a business bank account...

  • yes. NO republican in the history of politics has cared about women's rights. i'm sure you've thoroughly researched the subject (i.e. read the "feminism" page on wikipedia)

  • I doubt Cenk is saying that. I think he's saying something more like: the Repub party is less concerned with advancing women's rights than the Dem or Green parties.

    Example: KBR employee that was gang-raped in Iraq by other KBR employees on a US base. Dems on average were trying to find a way to get her a trial in the US. Republicans, on average, were taking steps to protect KBR from liability.

    Plus parties evolve. The Republican party today is not what it was 50 years ago... ON AVERAGE.

  • Democrat Al Franken was trying to pass an amendment to protect women in the workforce (so if there are crimes committed by a government contractor it goes to the court system instead of handled by the companies internally)

    30 Republicans voted against it.

    search this on youtube "Republicans Oppose Al Franken's Law on Protecting Victims of Gang Rape" TYT covered it

    One women got drugged and gang raped while supporting US troops, then got locked in a shipping container.

  • I had a dream Bill Clinton was trying to cock block me last night.

  • @Ivan951

    thats amazing

  • thank you.

  • bet hes a mason.

  • You sound bias for the democrats, but its funny how you dissed the republicans so I'm not going to hold the bias against you.

    I'm not into politics much anyways.

  • what a jackass.

  • The Repubs can say whatever they want about Clinton...but at least what he did with Monica was consensual.

  • Annnnnd the Republican Train Wreck continues.

  • Why is my state so damn crazy?!

  • @Zeeroyuy Republicans are in charge!!!!!!

  • I doubt he's Republican if he was stalking women. Republicans prefer gays and young boys.

  • Oh, and a small footnote. This is the guy who felt the shootings at Fort Hood was the action of one crazy person. And that other incidents were just the actions of a few extremist. Yet, here we are trying to spin this case to concern all republicans. Even the thousands upon thousands who are not harassing women. "This is how the republicans are!" fat Cenk shouts and points his snot covered index finger.

  • When the LEADER of a group is doing something illicit it does say something about the group as a whole. Like one of your favorite people to point to; Hitler. No one says just he was bad, no he was the leader of a horrible group. Now suddenly when it involves a group you are more than likely a part of, suddenly you can't go around blaming the group for the mistakes of the leader!

  • Ah, a leader? Like perhaps Anwar al-Awlaki? Are you certain you wanna go in that direction with your train of thought? At any rate, are you saying that if a skinhead (since you seem pre-occupied with Hitler, you moron. Read reductio ad Hitlerum) attack someone, then the whole group of right wing extremist should not suffer as a whole? Also, is this "leader" encouraging other people within the party to do what he did, or was it an action made in his spare time? You people are so stupid!

  • @NDstephan

    stephan. You're a clown. I'm still waiting for you to explain how not penalizing someone for speeding unless they do damage or injury = advocating murder, blowing up peoples' homes & hacking bank accounts. I'm not calling you names here, stephan. I'm pointing out the fact that you seem to be completely illogical & at least slightly retarded.

  • Say, wasn't there a democrat who drunk drove a car into a lake? And the woman in the car died? Kennedy something? Well, the democratic party sure knows how to reach out to women. Just kill them while driving under the influence, and afterwards smooth over the whole thing... Nicely done Dems!

  • the sooner we realize this is not a democrat or republican problem. we know htey are both absolutely corrupt. both sides. what we need to realize is what is happening around us with things like the water restoration act, cap and trade, codex alimentarius, healthcare and so all. designed to do one thing and that is to take total government control of air, water, land, busniess, healthcare and soon food. wake up from the lies you have been told your whole life while you still can.

  • Too bad they do not have the information of everyone who voted for Obama, so they could garnish their wages to help pay for the debts he is running up!

  • If that happened, those who voted for Reagan and the Bushes would have been bankrupted long before those who voted for Obama.

  • Fine because I voted for neither of those RepubliCrats!

    : )

  • The difference is basically the difference between voting for somebody who puts their foot to the floor when driving towards the brick wall, and somebody who simply maintains their speed while driving into the wall.

  • @dangerouslytalented Yep because all Obamma Lamma Ding Dong is doing is furthering the agenda.

  • the fuck do you expect when they exemplify a Palin standard for women??

  • yeah, teapartyman, I am sure you did some extensive research to back up your statement.

    real classy discussion

  • @DrakeMagnum, I do all my research. Apparently you are the one who doesn't since you didn't bother to debunk anything I said.. So I guess I'm right and you're wrong.

  • I am not the one who is going to corporate run rallies...

  • teapartyman:

    That someone who said that was Anne (Man) Coulter. And if you take what that loony, martian-looking bitch says as the gospel truth, then I think it is you who ought to have his head examined. I think you have been tea bagged one too many times and you have caught one of those social diseases.

  • LOL--Coulter accurate? She's a shill of Newt Gingrich's from way back. During the 90s, she was one of the operatives on the 'Arkansas Project', funded by the RNC and Corporate America, to troll Arkansas looking for sleazy scandals to use against Clinton. She's also a big wheel in the corporatist-statist Federalist Society, which grooms right-wing lawyers as candidates for judges.

  • teapartyboy - what the hell has Man Coulter been accurate about?

    And grow up on the liberal/conservative bullshit. How in the hell can anyone be completely liberal or conservative in their lives? They only way you can be that way is if you are so damn mentally lazy that you have your mind made up before you consider anything.

    12% of the country liberal though? Pull numbers out of your ass, aren't you?

  • Mxyzptlk,

    to quote Mr. Simpson, "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything... 14% of people know that."

  • "what the hell has Man Coulter been accurate about?"

    Everything. You probably don't even listen to what she says so how would you know?

    "12% of the country liberal though? Pull numbers out of your ass, aren't you?"

    Nope that's a fact, and by now I'm sure it's getting even lower.

  • What a fucking childish answer. Actually, let me take that back, because I don't even want to insult children by comparing their innocent beliefs with your blind, idiotic faith in a skank whore like Man Coulter.

  • If anyone is childish, it's liberals like you. You guys make your presidential candidates look like hip hop celebrities. Liberals like you don't even care about all the regulations and tax increases they put on you. All you people care about is smoking legalized dope and killing babies.

  • Projection, projection, projection. That is all you have. And your mind is well programed that all you can do is think in the narrow confines of the false liberal vs conservative paradigm.

    Seriously, I have tried to have exchanges with nuts like you many times, but I would be better off having a conversation with a raccoon. You are programed and all your answers are the same. Worse yet, they are not your own answers because they are same crap the clowns on right wing radio spoon feed you.

  • dude, just go play in traffic and pray for a semi....

  • THIS actually happened. The best FOX can come up with is calling people communist for no good reason.

  • Hahah, your name is 'teapartyman'... hahaha.

    Sorry, I couldn't help it. Also, there's no such thing as the 'liberal media'. There's real journalists who report the facts, and desperate individuals who would rather live in delusion then accept them (that's you).

  • The 'liberal media' was a term coined by neocon commentators to refer to anyone who doesn't slavishly applaud all the talking points of the RNC. There is no 'liberal media'.

  • MSNBC? Liberal?

    For YEARS they were owned by the biggest military contractor in the entire military industrial complex.

  • Hey, fuckface. I think it's obvious you haven't studied college level broadcast journalism. If you'd had you'd learn than reporters have the most power on what goes on air.

    So the humongous liberals known as Olbermann, Matthews, and Madcow, are part of this military industrial complex? Yeah you're really consistent.

    I bet you leftist morons don't even know what the military industrial complex even is.

  • LOL this is an example of why the far Right must be kept out of power. They're stupid enough to be positively dangerous. Reporters have the power over media content? I never such a stupid comment in my life---producers, editors and advertisers control content. In the modern US, so-called 'journalists' are nothing but 2nd-rate actors reading from a script. Go check out the BBC if you want to see what real reporting looks like.

  • And this is an example of how brain dead the far left has become. They automatically assume that anyone who isn't sucking Obama's or Chomsky's is part of the "far right."

    Actually, and as of a matter of fact, I'm a big fan of BBC. But it's clear your opinions on American journalism is mainly based on assumption.

    So how do you explain Olbermann if there is this right-wing conspiracy in the media?

  • Easy---they need a few token liberals to look balanced. But that's missing the point entirely. Journalists are supposed to report the news objectively, not take and promote party positions like they do in police states like we're fast becoming.

  • And are you honestly stupid enough to believe that it's only the right and Fox who are biased? You see I think this is the problem. You're projecting your bias on Fox because you're exposing your own biases on society.

    And please don't parrot the phrase police state especially when you have no clue what the word means.

  • Look Dum-dum, I'll try and explain this more simply---I realize I'm talking to a neocon: professional journalists are not supposed to let their biases into their reporting. The same with any objective research. The neocon media is not objective. And yes, the US is a police state other country had as little transparency over law enforcement, the kinds of incarceration rates and the prison system we have; and the slavish media fawning over the police that we have, it would be called a police state

  • I'm sorry but you're obviously to dumb to know what a police state is. How about this why don't you get your ass to an actual police state like lets say North Korea and then come back to America, because its obvious you're base your ideas on complete naivete. Fawning over the police? Are you by any chance fucking stupid? The media loves it when some video comes out that supposedly shows police brutality.

  • This what happens to people's brains after a steady diet of Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. Umm, Gitmo is a concentration camp and the prisons in many states aren't much better. Oh BTW the govt here routinely conducts warrantless searches. Only a fraction of police brutality or corruption ever gets reported. And when was the last time you saw the police, prisons, or prosecutors agrressively investigated without the right-wing media howling that the media's 'anti-police'?

  • Well first off I don't watch either of Glenn Beck or Hannity so it's best not to judge or make assumptions.

    Again I'd suggest you look up the definition of concentration camp also. It makes Gitmo look like a vacation resort. A concentration camp is where NON-COMBATANTS are accommodated.

    So just because not everything gets reported means we are automatically a police state? In that case every country is a police state.

  • It's clear you are not basing your thesis on any sort of facts. You are only parroting Chomsky talking points as if the mean something because the stimulate your emotions. If this is a police state then how come you aren't being forced into a concentration camp? Don't be so fucking naive.

  • I guess ignorance is the key to neoconservatism. So you found two guys you think are liberal in a network run by General Electric. What about Rupert Murdoch's outright ownership of 40% of ALL US media? Or the stock he and his cronies hold in other media monopolies? Or the Moonies ownership of UPI and the religious right's percentage of media outlets? I live in an area that routinely votes 75-85% Democratic: we have a liberal radio talk station and 4 conservative ones. How do you explain that?

  • ABC News political director Mark Halperin stated that, as individuals, most journalists and news producers hold liberal political views and these views affect their reporting.

    In a survey conducted by the American Society of Newspaper Editors in 1997, 61% of reporters stated that they were members of or shared the beliefs of the Democratic Party. Only 15% say their beliefs were best represented by the Republican Party.

  • A 2002 study by Jim A. Kuypers of Dartmouth College, Press Bias and Politics, investigated the issue of media bias. In this study of 116 mainstream US papers, including The New York Times, the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and the San Francisco Chronicle, Kuypers found that the mainstream press in America tends to favor liberal viewpoints.

    They found that reporters expressing moderate or conservative points of view were often labeled as holding a minority point of view.

  • So what? Probably the same statistics for Hollywood actors and actresses too; and that's only what most American 'journalists' amount to---actors and actresses reading off scripts. A big part of the right-wing bias isn't just what's being said in the press; it's also stories that are suppressed and never come to light.

  • Studies finding a perception of liberal bias in the media are not limited to studies of print media. A joint study by the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University and the Project for Excellence in Journalism found that viewers believe that liberal media bias can be found in television news by networks such as CNN. These findings concerning a perception of liberal bias in television news particularly at CNN - are also reported by other sources.

  • Kenneth Tomlinson, while chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, commissioned a $10,000 government study into Bill Moyers' PBS program, "Now with Bill Moyers" without informing the CPB board. The results of the study indicated that there was no particular bias on PBS,

  • so Mr. Tomlinson chose to ignore or reject the results of the study, subsequently reducing time and funding for NOW with Bill Moyers, which he regarded as a "left-wing" program, and then expanded a show hosted by talk show host Tucker Carlson. Some board members stated that his actions were politically motivated.

    Himself a frequent target of claims of bias (in this case, conservative bias), Tomlinson resigned from the CPB board on November 4, 2005.

  • Regarding the claims of a left wing bias, Bill Moyers asserted in a Broadcast & Cable interview that "If reporting on what's happening to ordinary people thrown overboard by circumstances beyond their control and betrayed by Washington officials is 'liberalism,' I stand 'convicted.' "

  • forced abortions? you must be friends with the people that said health care was going to decide people's death! Its crazy talk and it needs to stop. Its not about being a repuublican, its about acting so conservative and stalking women on the side. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  • It was proposed by the democratic party. Shall I give you links?

    Then again, Liberals should start learning to do actual research themselves, instead of waiting for the Obama administration and the lawyers in congress to provide them some lies that they can call "a valid source of information"

    And you seem retarded. Maybe you should learn basic sentence structure before attempting to comprehend politics?

    So no further effort deserved or required on your part. :)

  • Sure Scream give some links wherein the author doesn't site "unnamed sources" or blogs. Maybe I'll listen.

    There is no "forced abortion" in any form of healthcare reform. There was; however, an attempt at making ALL abortion non-covered by insurance. Including rape, incest, and health of the mother.

    "I'm sorry you were raped by your father and giving birth will kill you.... have you thought of a name for the little angel?"

  • I don't need links, I already did the research on your page.. great message on "Summer Slaughter 2007" sounds a bit too liberal, If you want to talk about proposals you and the republican party will look retarded. Scream Bloody ignorance should be more like it! BTW no effort necessary, actually its a waste of time. Keep up the good work Young Turks!

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  • American politics is a laugh a minute :-D

  • Forced abortions?

    Controling procreation?

    Marxism?

    Are you talking about China?

    Or are you getting all your news from WorldNetDaily?

  • LOL

    Reach out to women.... man if he reached out to me, I'd beat his ass.

    "Oh sure you can express your opinion to me, ...just don't touch me...or come near me...or go to my house...or call my number." (Gets the baseball bat out)

  • Wonder how powerful he actually is in the party? They sure can pick them.

  • Barney Frank pays for male prostitutes, so you can really tell that the Dems are including when it comes to gays. Even the hustlers. Nicely done Dems!

  • @MrNiceGuy4TW

    Well, its too bad he can't get married otherwise that might be an issue.

  • Man, next fall I'm going to go to Arizona for college. With all the stories I'm hearing lately I'm not so sure now O.o...

  • jjworm, If an immigrant can come here and take YOUR job dont blame the immigrant blame your lack of standing in society you dont see dr.s saying dayum immigrants taking our jobs... with that said the fact you would put the mentaly handicaped to work labor goes to show the type of human you are... or lack of human I should say. I work in a facility with people of many different lvls of mental handicaps yeah they dont have enough to worry about lets make the handicaped slave labor... asshole.

  • Man, that guy is beyond slime. Those Republican women need to all get together and do the right thing. It's called Court. IMHO

  • Personally I th ink that the republican party thinks the The Onion is a real news network, and is trying to make it on to one of their shows!

  • "PERVY WANKER"

  • i read that the republican party orgingaly started because of the slave plantations in the 18th century in america.

  • What is the relevance of this? You don't think there are perverted stalkers in the Democratic Party just as well?

  • If they are, then they are doing a VERY good job of being subtle about it, because if they were caught, FOX would be all over like stink on rancid meat.

  • In just the same way TYT is all over this guy like stink on rancid meat.

  • The thing is, this guy IS rancid meat. FOX will go after EVERYBODY, for stuff that either does not really matter, or stuff they make up. They do not wait for them to do something that is ACTUALLY immoral...

  • Sexual predators of any party are immoral no matter who complains about them. It's irrelevant. The fact that this creep happens to be a Republican says nothing of the GOP. Bill Clinton's sex scandal says nothing of the Democratic Party. Both TYT and Fox are constantly trying to tell us the opposite, that somehow one man's sex scandal is a disgrace on his entire party, which is just bull.

  • But take a look at the REACTION.

    Clinton's fellatio incident was taken so seriously that he was impeached.

    And that was one lie about one incident of fellatio.

  • And you don't think that members of the Democratic Party react the same way over scandals in the Republican Party? I think that's very naive. Talk-show hosts of BOTH parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, will say anything to slander the other side. It's not JUST the Republicans.

  • Not to the point of impeachment over fellatio, no. It takes quite a bit to even get up to the level of outrage we are seeing now.

    And things only get any REAL emphasis when blatant hypocrisy is involved, like the homophobic preacher going out and having nasty airport toilet sex.

  • Just for the record, he was impeached for perjury, obstruction of justice and abuse of power, and I pretty well agree with that. It's not like a bunch of hysterical, right-wing senators voted to impeach him just over a blowjob.

  • @AaronBurhoe

    lol

  • Clinton was impeached for perjury; true. But the "charges" that were filed against him were non-issues. There is no law in the country which says that an extra-marital affair is illegal. Frowned upon; yes, illegal; no.

    When he was put under oath he perjured himself, perjury is a crime. Under that ACTUAL breaking of the law, yes he should have been impeached.

  • @AaronBurhoe I totally agree with you about the reflection issue... I think what pisses "us" off is that conservatives preach morality and being faithful and all that jazz and then do the opposite. Bill Clinton (at least not that I know of) never got on a soap box preaching morality... you know? But of course you can't judge everyone based on a few or even the majority.

  • You've got a real point there. Conservatives are more preachy about being faithful, etc, which is just downright annoying.

  • Absolutely correct ,going aftter republicans for a single douchebags misadventures is "bull"

    But you seem to be ignoring the tiny fact that republican higher ups (republican party?) were/are to some extent protecting this moron...

    which is a little fucked up and warrants attention if you ask me.

  • No, I agree that it is pretty creepy, the way republican higher-ups are protecting this sleezeball, but I think a lot of democratic higher-ups would do just the same for their own boys.

  • Define "all over this guy" they did ONE story.

    When John Edwards got caught cheating Fox news ran a segment on it every single hour for over 2 weeks. Meanwhile whenever a Republican (there have been far too many to name here and more often than not ran on "family values") gets nailed for it the "Liberal smear machine" is to blame...

    Maybe you should get the blinders off and realize that the "family values" party doesn't live by the same values, they just run on them.

  • TYT routinely attacks anyone with a conservative opinion about anything, not just this ONE guy. Meanwhile whenever a Democrat is nailed for a scandal, the conservative media, especially the "big bad Fox," are to blame... Partisanship goes both ways. TYT is just as partisan as Fox. Both are very partisan.

    And I hope you're not accusing me of this "family values" bull. I resent that homophobic trash just as much as you do.

  • What exactly is a "conservative opinion" and what opinion did he attack?

  • They're not attacking an opinion in this vid, they're just pointing a finger at some pervert who happens to be a conservative because they think that this somehow reflects on all conservatives. They do this to try to delegitimize conservative opinion in general, which just doesn't make sense.

  • No disrecpect, but the flaw in any argument is to presume what someones motives are and to initiate theories with the phrase "they think" or "they do this". I urge you to watch more TYT videos in order to have a more accurate opinion b/c I think your creating victims out of "so called" conservatives by over playing the story. Also, there is a fundamental difference between bias and misinformation. Please don't be like the others and get these confused.

  • You're right. I don't know for certain why TYT constantly resorts to personal attacks on individual conservatives, but I've been subscribed to them for a long time now, and I've seen that they do this indeed. Recently Cenk said to Joe Lieberman, an Independent, to "piss off and go be a Republican" if he won't support the health-care reform bill. That is extremely partisan. So forgive me for assuming things, but I think it's fair at least to suspect that TYT blindly shuns conservative opinion.

  • Aw man, you're a funny cat. You just won't stop will you? You paraphrase objective language within the subjectivity of your opinion, clever.  Another way to thwart any opinion from being challenged is to say the person is being "attacked", whether than call it what it is; a response to an opinion or an assertion based off analysis. To say he's being attacked simply because someone else has an opinion is the epitome of victim hood and narcissism. Cenks pissed off b/c Joe is inconsistent.

  • You think you can delegitimize my argument by lecturing me on theory of knowledge? My opinion is an opinion, I know that; I'm not trying to tell you that my opinion is Gospel. Why don't you just refute it instead of psychologizing to me?

    But then you do refute it. You defend Cenk and call me a self-victimizing narcissist. Weren't you just lecturing me on presuming people's motives?

  • I give my opinion & I'm "lecturing" u? U give yours & its just opinion. Get over your self dog. If there's a flaw in my logic, I expect someone to enlighten me. Wise men love correction. No big deal. Why are u trying to dictate how I proceed w/ my analysis? The 1st step to seeing why a person has a particular view is to step inside their mind. The observer is more important than what is being observed. If u don't wish to proceed in an introspective manor, I suggest you step homie. - Peace

  • I've forgotten what we're arguing about at this point. You've completely changed the subject onto this crap about how I'm being subjective, presuming opinions and not being introspective, while at the same time acting like you can read my mind.

  • Sorry if I came off like I can read minds. I have no neeed to do that when you unknowingly show me all your cards. My apologies to you sir. Have a good day.

  • Who is Cenk, but another human holding positions on various issues? Im defending a position, not a person. Just b/c I may defend a similar position, doesnt mean Im defending the whole person that agrees w/ that position. I agree w/ Cenk on many issues, & now Im defending him as a whole person? Cmon dude. I defend the "perspective" of my friends on issues everyday, but at the same time I contest what Im not in agreement with. I'm afraid we're on different frequences b. - Peace

  • By the way, conservatives do this same thing to liberals and others. I'm not trying to victimize conservatives.

  • @AaronBurhoe

    TYT criticizes Democrats all the time ...

  • Hardly. Lately they've criticized Obama for not being liberal enough! If TYT's progressive agenda isn't obvious, watch a few more of their videos. You know, I can respect having an agenda, liberal or conservative, but Cenk resorts to personal attacks all the time.

  • @AaronBurhoe

    It is a progressive talk show ...

    And someone made the point of the difference between misinformation and bias.

    As far as I can tell this show discusses facts and does not promote disinformation.

    And again, they are a liberal progressive talk show.

    Not some "fair and balanced" misinformation bullshit.

  • You think you can defend liberal bias by pointing a finger at Fox? I know that this is a liberal talk show, but that doesn't make me feel less inclined to point out its lack of journalistic integrity.

  • Im not defending liberal bias—just pointing out the difference between misinformation and bias. This show does not claim to be "fair and balanced" and I doubt the crew would identify themselves as "journalists".

    I watch this show for their opinions on many varying topics. This is not a news show.

  • Correct, bias doesn't equal misinformation. Don't bother, I've pointed that out many times, but the logic eludes them. People try to make comparisons to FOX in order to justify how FOX does business. Notice how when questioned on their inaccuracies, they don't argue facts, they try to compare someone else to them. They defend their evil by claiming someone else is evil too Lol. TYT are commentators with opinions. Some times I agree, sometimes I don't. When's the last time TYT made something up?

  • look at that blone with the double d's

    I think im gunna reach out to her

  • Score 1 for the clown: Speeding tickets are "taxation." There is no victim.

    Fire this guy & ban "Republicans" & "Democrats" from office for the next 20 years or until they clean up their ACT. Bring back the Anti-Masonic party!

  • There ARE victims of speeding. They are called "traffic fatalities".

  • If someone is injured as a result of someone exceeding the posted speed recommendation, THEN impose fines, medical bills, prison time, death sentence - don't really give a fuck.

    If you're going to speak to me, then try to be at least a little rational.

  • Sooo your solution is to wait until someone gets hit by a speeding car, don't prevent the speeding car.

    The next time you notice a leaky faucet or a sparking electrical socket, don't fix it.; wait until your floor is soaked or until you get electrocuted before you do anything about it.

  • I'm not here to have my life dictated to me by cowards, liars & thieves, NDstephan. If you're afraid, then stay off the roads.

    Your juxtaposition is silly, as nothing is "fixed." People still speed. If the fact that speeding MIGHT lead to an accident &/or the injury or death of themselves or someone else does not stop them, then a ticket certainly isn't either.

    Hey! Maybe we should be ticketed for running too fast on sidewalks & endangering mothers pushing strollers...

  • We can start constructing specialized jogging/running parks - make 'em real nice...to pay for the upkeep & construction, we can charge people a $50 a month tax - wait, I mean, membership fee...

  • Sooo, we should be a purely reactionary society? Don't do anything until the worst happens?

    Lets do away with all laws.. Hey if someone wants to firebomb your house; let them. Because surely a "coward" made murder illegal. If you're afraid just stay out of your house!

    If someone wants to hack your bank accounts, let them. Surely a "liar" and "thief" made fraud illegal. If you're afraid just keep all your money under a mattress.

  • NDstephan, you didn't listen to a word I've said, or you're just illiterate & incapable of critical thinking, so we're done arguing the issue.

  • odetoinsolence:

    So simply because I pointed out the contradictary nature of your points suddenly I'M the one without critical thinking abilities?

    I suppose we are done arguing the issue, I was never "arguing" I was debating and when you failed to come up with a valid counterpoint to my point you devolved to arguing with me.

    More to the point how can one "listen" to text? Hmmmm, maybe I'm just illiterate; because obviously I lack the ability to read and write responces to your innane posts.

  • @NDstephan, there was no contradictory nature about what I said. It was a very simple concept I put forth & you start talking about how I'm advocating murder, hacking bank accounts & bombing peoples' homes - some of the most ignorant shit I've ever seen.

    You go ahead & see if you can explain how your monkey-ass got to "murder is OK!" from the idea that we should not penalize people unless they cause material damage or physical harm to someone due to their exceeding the speed limit.

  • @NDstephan, you talked dumb shit, asking if we are to be purely a reactionary society. We ARE a fucking reactionary society, stephan. Do you think you live in Minority Report World or something?

  • No, we are a proactive society. When we see a man walking down a populated street brandishing a loaded gun, we call the police. We don't wait for him to kill someone before taking action.

    The same way we don't wait for someone who is driving recklessly to kill another person before getting the police involved. This is the point I have been making the entire time, and it deeply saddens me that you can't seem to fathom that.

  • You have no point. No matter how you choose to be a fool for semantics, you are REACTING. A man walking down the street brandishing a gun is nothing like merely doing 45 in a 35. Besides. If the gun's holstered & he's not angrily stalking down the street to murder somebody, I don't care how many people are carrying. Everyone should do it. Pigs do. Pigs speed, drive recklessly & fuck people up at will too - without penalization. I know a woman CRIPPLED, being rear-ended at a stop light by a cop.

  • Secondly, you are advocating no action UNTIL injury or death occur, thereby you are advocating murder or assault, not intervention before the fact which is the entire purpose of Law and Law Enforcement.

    You still fail to show any counterpoint to any of my arguments.

    One final question; why do those with limited intelligence always seem to resort to namecalling when faced with their own intellectual shortcomings? You seem to be a prime canditate to answer that.

  • Ummm... you just categorized and labeled liberals, hypocrite.

  • He is the head Republican in the state of Arizona. Plus it points out the nearly innate hypocrisy of a party that has long positioned itself as one based on "traditional values."

    I would have no problem with the party if they had never pandered to religion and if they just came and said that their core values are money and property (which is the truth). However, they pander to the Christians only to win votes. Otherwise, they are morally corrupt bunch of creatures.

  • True. It's a party who runs on values, who possess no values themselves.

    Useless Democrats like Lieberman can go to hell just as well; fucking up the political system.

    Let Franken and other Progressives (all Progressives are Democrats, but not all Democrats are Progressives) put the ACTUAL productive (to humanity) legislation through.

  • Liberman is not a Democrat. He is a free agent. He goes to where the price is right and for the past several years he has sided with the Republicans on most major issues.

    I rather have secular leadership (or at least have politicians who are not preachy about their personal religious beliefs) than to have those who boast how good and holy they are and how dedicated to "family values" they are. They not only turn me off by doing that, they also set themselves up for failure later on.

  • Lieberman is his own party. Conneticut for Lieberman.

    And even THIS party is looking for a new candidate.

  • I will categorize and label this dude: a sexual predator. Hope you have kids, and one of his kind live next door to ya!

  • "I know it's hard for you liberal to understand. Since you all want everything categorized and labeled."

    Is it just me, or is it getting ironic in here?

  • LOL, boy is it ever. If Republican irony was a virus, we'd have a pandemic.

    The very definition of a Republican or conservative is to categorize or label EVERYTHING, even when it's not possible or impossible to plausibly do so.

    Therein the Republicans ALWAYS beget logic, and are magnetically attracted to BS labels and knee-jerk words (LOL, and we have Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and his shotgun-phrases, the Tea Party, etc. etc.).

    The Tea Party is the archetype for the modern Republican.

  • More like Captain Trips from The Stand.

  • @st4ticblu3

    "It is an individual."

    True but I don't agree after that, I agree with you and you generalize. Thanks a lot, jackass...

  • He just wants a friend lol

  • is this another one of those family values republicans talk about all the time? use illegal means to stalk woman? damn these guys are hypocrites and criminals....

  • im suprised nobody stabbed him or anything

  • Fucking republicans! All sick bastards!

    No suprise there!

  • Gladly, point me to the nearest pregnant teen.

    How about we just kill everyone that does not agree with us instead.