@Peju85 People died and you're trying to make fun of it?Shame on you.Oo look at me i want to get thumbs up so i can be awesome and i would get friends.Stupid fuck.
Macht irgendwie einen unprofessionellen Eindruck. Warum funktioniert das Funkgerät aber das GPS nicht? Warum setzt er nicht gleich einen Notruf ab? Und warum kann der kein Englisch?
It can´t be water just have a look at the sinking sequence at the time. The bridge touched the sea at that time. As i already said before, all persons on Estonia side in this mayday call died at that night. I disagree with the totoal panic on the bridge. They were brave and hold out at their position until the end or nearly until the ende. Thats the reason why most officers died at that night. Others (like the engine room crew) where more lucky, because they were in a life raft at that time.
Thiger heard a clear comment from only one passenger, a man nearby who joked, “Ha! Now we have sailed against an iceberg!” and took another gulp of beer.
I dont think its water you hear at 5:02, but more like equipment and things falling towards one side of the bridge, confirming the list is getting really really bad - just as he says in the radio. Thats my guess. You can also hear a constant signal howling in the background on the bridge of Estonia. Imagine the chaos that took place there, all the officers on the bridge in total panic, trying to do something about the situation...omg what a scene. Just the thought of it gives me the creeps.
@TheFraggle78 the noise you are hearing in the background is most likely the general alarm the officers on the europa seem to be keeping it together considering the situation
So if you are wondering, why the communication switched to Andres Tammes:
He was the only guy who could speak Finnish (you can find the this fact in the final report) in comparison to Tormi Ainsalu. So as you can hear, conversation is switching to Finnish, which would be much easier than english.
Speak English ffs! It is absolutely possible that there were other boats nearer Estonia at this moment. But if they didn't understand finnish, it was impossible for them to get the position of Estonia.
I get angry when I hear that a better crew could have saved lives :(
@Massabrassan These were the only ships near them. They didn't have time to do anything else. They could all speak English but Finnish was the easiest language (ie most efficient) for them to use.
Rest in eternal peace, Tormi Ainsalu and Andres Tammes. Those are names of the Estonian crew members, you can hear in this video. First, you hear Tormi Ainsalu, after this, the main part of the conversation is done by Andres Tammes.
At that night, radio communication was somewhat limited at the Baltic Sea. At that time of the conversation, the list must have been 60-70 degrees. You can have a look at the sinking sequence and you can easily see, why those brave crew
@goodfella1904 Do you have a list of the officers aboard as my fathers cousin was something like 2nd or 3rd officer, I think his name was Toomas Variksoo but I'm not 100% sure about his surname. He died when I was 1 and I'd like to know more about him as that is all I know.
@teens2000 Tuossa tilanteessa on paras antaa hätäsanoma. Suomea puhuva oli Virolainen, sen huomaa esim. kielivirheistä. Mutta kyllä hän oli hädissään.
@TheFin30 You may be interested in this, it was written by one of the crew who survived. He explains why ships are so dangerous at the end. varsi.net/english/estonia1.shtml
@t2rnus I was in Tallinn the other day (I'm 1/4 Estonian but visit from time to time) and just came across the memorial. It was emotional as I have a removed uncle of cousin (can't quite remember) who was 2nd or 3rd officer on board who went down with her. It was a great tragedy but we can at least look on it as an event that provoked changes that revolutionized ship safety. Sorry for your loss. RIP to all who went down with her.
on the wall and one on the floor. And then try to make it up to the stair ways at that circumstances. The other interesting point is: why nearly all members of the staff in the engine room survived? they said that they used the emergency exit through the chimney but at that bad list it would be nearly impossible. So there are opinions that they left very early after the beginning of the disaster while other people on the bridge did their duty until the end.
...by the other ships. They had to call Helsinki radio by mobile phone.
When i remember it correctly some sources say that the communication on the Estonia was done via a walkie-talkie.
I really don´t know why they started the distress call at about 01.20. . The disaster started at around 1.00 with the temporary bad listing. After that time, there was only a time frame of 8-10 minutes for the passengers to reach the upper decks.
After that time frame, you had to walk with one foot .....
That the crew (esp. the navigation officers) was unexperienced is not a fact or a surprise, you can read it directly out of those sailor profiles.
You should compare the sinking sequence with the timeframe of the radio communication and you will find out, that it was nearly impossible to stand upright on the bridge, when the Estonia crew sent their position data.
And that night, radio communication in that area was really limited. So it could be that some of the Estonia calls weren´t picked up
@goodfella1904 Do you have the profiles as a family member was one of the officers on board but I now hardly anything about him. His name was Toomas (Variksoo I think)
From what I've read and understand, those people controlling the ship were the worst amateur-sailors in history. 1) This is how you send a distress call on channel 16: "-Mayday, Mayday, Mayday here is "Estonia", "Estonia", "Estonia", Mayday "Estonia" on position N59o22 E21o41'. The ferry is sinking! Approx. 1000 persons will hit the lifeboats!"... 2) When the alarm went off, the speakers were all voices in Estonian. No swedish, no finnish, no danish, no english!! Who understands that?
The captain and at least 4 other officers were on the bridge that day. None of them knew the position of the ferry despite Estonia was equipped with a digital sat-nav-system. This will at all times show the location. When the ship was sinking, no electricity was available, however, any competent navigator on the bridge all know the APPROX. POSITION where their ship is, or should know it. Information like that is in the backbone of a seaman, and *especially* on such a small route.
What do you think a captains role is? A captain of a ferry carrying 900+ passengers, has been specially picked & trained to handle dangerous situations like this professionally, to remain calm and focus. It's his ultimate duty, as a captain, to guarantee the safety of his passengers and personnel at all costs. If the captain panics, he will make wrong choices (speed up the ferry), give false information (no proper alarm to people on-board/no proper mayday-call), and people will die.
It doesn't matter who's speaking on the radio. It could have been Rambo! As long as the location and information is correct, which it weren't. Ship, Boat, Ferry, Vessel, Airplane... - the captain is always in charge and takes the final decisions.
@Squad2ND It is also said to me that Silja and Viking Line had both complained about the Estonia crews behavior on more than one occasion! Over a period of only a few months.
They had two choices in that night. Leaving early and trying to reach a floating life raft (the choise the machinists had chosen) or stay on that ship, do their duty and try to give the excact coordinates to the ships nearby. Xouou can see from the sinking sequence and have a look at that communication timeframe, you can see that it has been really hard to read the GPS coordinates on the bridge
You don´t even know Finnish to hear the desperation and fright in the voices of those fellow guys.
Guys i just want to add something to this emergency call. First of all, i don´t even speak Finnish or Swedish. But you can hear the fright in those voices. You can hear the voices of Tormi Ainsalu (the first one) and Andres Tammes. Both died on the Estonia in that night. Yes, this didn´t follow the rules for the emergency call.. Maybe they messed up the whole communcation (30 degrees list?). Helsinki Radio just stent a "Pan-Pan" call, instead of a Mayday call.
themoviemakercap, ofc its their job but however you can never know exactly in what way you may react when it comes clear for you that your ship will go down and all that it means.but i totaly agree that they shall know it,even they have panic w/e this is something they should know how to do. also i think it not mather if they did not by the rules since the ships reply understood well that ship was in distress..really sad accident, may it never be forgotten,hopefully some good came from the bad!
Killjoy, I'm a captain an GMDSS General operator Certificated. If you work on a vessel you showld know exactly what to do on a distress situation. It's your job and you are been payed for this.
You cannot kill hundreds of people just because you are inconpetent to do the job you supose to do.
I think the time was essential thing, they was late in mayday call. I think Estonia crew was unable to interpret swedish language... Biggest flaw was the ignorance of Estonia crew.. too late too big....
In 1:03, i think the sound is "mechanic"=> is sounds like a wheel that spin? Could it not be sounds from the Egine? or from trucks that fell down on the cardeck?
And in 5:00 - the sounds is like water that break a window in a room and then sounds came when the water hit the walls inside the room? Could it be so, because he in the radio sounds so Scary because a window break down and water came in pehaps and that is the reason to why the radio recordings end?
Those radiomen were so calm, relaxed. Except the one on Estonia. But still. Europa, Mariella and Symphony, they all what was going on. And they still were relaxed and just did their jobs. They didn't panic, they didn't even raise their voices. Brave men. The ones not among us anymore, rest in peace!
Hej tillsammans, idag främ 16 ärs är 852 oskyldig mänsikor död pä den ESTONIA och ingen mänisk,ingen politik och ingen nation interessera sig för denne 852 mäniskor , för mig är det obgriplig eftersom det var och är mord vad där passera är i denne nat pä den Östersjön ! jag är den mening man mäste den ESTONIA bärgning p.g.a den oskyldig mäniskor vilket till idag där liggä i den ESTONIA .
There is no way of forgetting this tragedy... Only learning to live with the pain.
I lost my grandparents. My cousin and I should also have been aboard, but changed our minds some week before departure. Little did we know those decisions would save our lives.
Anyone know it this is "in real time"? I mean, was these messages over just this 5 minute-period or have they been "collected" so that we don't have sit and wait? What a terrible situation on Estonia it must've been...
The guy on the ship should of just said: "Mayday! Mayday! This is the MV Estonia! We have an emergency! I repeat en emergency! We need assistance! Latitude 59, longitude 21:40 east! Where the fuck are you? We need help! For godsakes man, get moving!!!"
This would have gotten their attention. If they had made their situation sound more desperate, alot of people could have lived. Some of the Coastgaurds and rescuers, what a bunch of fucktards!
@darthsugi89 well maybe it was because the estonian captain couldnt explaint the situation properly in finnish. but i agree that the crew on viking and silja should have reacted faster. But it is an uncommon situation here in finland that a ship sinks, so they didnt take it so seriously. After estonia disappeared from the radar i think they began to realize what happened. And estonia sank so fast that no matter how fast the rescuers would have reacted the same lives would have been lost.
@darthsugi89 You are wrong. The proper procedure would have been to say: MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY THIS IS ESTONIA ESTONIA ESTONIA MAYDAY ESTONIA POSITION (GIVEN HERE) REQUIRE IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE OVER This is right from the ITU radio regulations.
Out of a total of 989 passengers and crew on board 138 were rescued alive but one died later in the hospital.[1] The accident claimed 852 lives (501 Swedes, 285 Estonians, 17 Latvians, 10 Finns and 44 people of other nationalities: 1 from Belarus, 1 from Canada, 1 from France, 1 from the Netherlands, 1 from Nigeria, 1 from Ukraine, 1 from United Kingdom, 2 from Morocco, 3 from Lithuania, 5 from Denmark, 6 from Norway, 10 from Germany, 11 from Russia), by drowning and hypothermia
When your in trouble at sea everyone comes to your aid. no matter what country your from or if you have a quarrel with the other ships capt. no matter what you help anyone calling a mayday period.
I was on another ferry in the area that night Estonia where sinking. I remember the waves were so big that it was very difficult just to get to my cabin to get sleep. Its really moving to hear this.
@ihaveairlockers when i first starting watching i did not expect the video to provoke such an emotional reaction. at 5:09 it really really did, you can hear the fear in his voice.
Please remove your posted comment. This is not something to laugh at.
I strongly urge you to do the right thing and think about the comment you just wrote. It's offensive to those who perished, it's offensive to those who survived and it's offensive to those whom helped rescue the survivors. Please remove your post, thank you. I am asking nicely. :o)
As of today, 94 people as well as me cried listening to this. Please be understanding.....
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@ihaveairlockers Wow you asking nicely? What what will happen if i tell you go f your self? hahahaha Ever hear of free speech? Request to remove the post is here by denied.
I ask you nicely a second time. Can you please remove your comments which you left on this video ?
I would like you to do the right thing. This is a very solemn, sad and serious video. Your comments are not appropriate for this kind of video, thank you.
This video is not something to laugh at. It's quite sad.
Yes, I have heard of free speech. You are allowed to say whatever you like. But your comments just make you look like an immature and disrespectful fool
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@ihaveairlockers Request to have some respect is here by denied. I love being an asshole so looking like an immature and disrespectful fool is fine by me. So you're welcome to ask third time if you're that stupid to think that i care hahahaha
You can hear the crew calling "Mayday" You also hear sounds from the boat in the background It must be extremely loud so you can hear it on the radio as well..It's sinking..
Vid 1:01 på videon kl 00.24: Mayday mayday efterföljs av ett rullande ljud (lyssna noga) av utrustning som rullar ner för golvet och träffar i någon vägg eller så.
Allt tyder på att båten har börjar röra sig mer åt styrbord eftersom att rösten höjs i panik ;( från att ha låtit lugnare , vid 5:03 en utrustning som flyger in i väggen och kraschas eller tom fönster som krossas utav vatten, lyssna på 5:23 i bakgrunden hörs ett fräsande ljud, kan vara vatten som forsar in gnom ett krossat fönster
@DolkyGuy A mayday should be a general distress call, not a call to a specific ship. Silja Europa dealt with the panicking Estonia crew very professionally...and with Viking Line and tens of other ships saved many lives. Listen to all of the videos, the rescue ships did an outstanding job in very difficult conditions.R.I.P all those who were trapped inside her.
This is so sad! I remember seeing it on the news the day after the sinking. I was 11 years old but I will never forget seeing the pictures on the news! A crying man was interviewed holding a teddy bear desperately waiting for his daughter who were on Estonia. Dear God it was heartbraking!
Note: Listen to the horrorfying sound when 2nd officer Ainsalu is calling "Mayday, Mayday"
when you consider it happened so quick thet probably never had time to look at their position, they probably didnt even think they would need to know where they were as they wouldnt of thought anything would happen,
as for my reply to dolkyguy, i think you get me wrong.
i said that the europa was merely asking if it was calling mayday, as this should happen.
its no point the europa going to a mayday if it dont exsist, so europa had to confirm it.
Imagine if you would been there in that night. The fucking ship is almost upside down and keeps sloping VERY fast, people screaming and running with panic and getting crushed by heavy movables, water flooding inside the ship and to crown all; devices including radio barely works because of the sea water so that its ALMOST FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO CALL HELP!
This is so sad. So so sad....
chora 1 week ago 5
Can you hear the ship crying? beepbeepbeep all the time?
Peju85 1 week ago
@Peju85 People died and you're trying to make fun of it?Shame on you.Oo look at me i want to get thumbs up so i can be awesome and i would get friends.Stupid fuck.
Driftmens 1 week ago in playlist lemmikud4
God rest all the souls on the Estonia.
ddgregoryy 1 week ago
They fucking sinked it!
zorro192 1 week ago
@zorro192 based on what?
Peju85 1 week ago
Macht irgendwie einen unprofessionellen Eindruck. Warum funktioniert das Funkgerät aber das GPS nicht? Warum setzt er nicht gleich einen Notruf ab? Und warum kann der kein Englisch?
evotelix 2 weeks ago
@evotelix Sie sind in Panik und kann nicht klar denken.
dunbunter 2 weeks ago
05:02-05:03 you can hear crashing noise at the background! omg its so scary :o but interesting.
Sierrari85 1 month ago
Kuunnelkaa kuin M/S Estonia itkee piippiiippiii
Peju85 1 month ago
Kovasti yritin, mut tietokone ei annna
Peju85 1 month ago
mä opettelen virio, koska VIRON kansanarmeija on tyaostellut Suomen puolella...
Peju85 1 month ago
I cant fucking understand.The alarm was loud enough.Why so many people died?
NIGHTMARE5008 1 month ago
@NIGHTMARE5008 Due to the weather.
dunbunter 3 weeks ago
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nils4545 1 month ago
You can hear alarms on the Estonia, when the radio operator is giving them their position
aeroavia89 2 months ago
It can´t be water just have a look at the sinking sequence at the time. The bridge touched the sea at that time. As i already said before, all persons on Estonia side in this mayday call died at that night. I disagree with the totoal panic on the bridge. They were brave and hold out at their position until the end or nearly until the ende. Thats the reason why most officers died at that night. Others (like the engine room crew) where more lucky, because they were in a life raft at that time.
goodfella1904 2 months ago
Thiger heard a clear comment from only one passenger, a man nearby who joked, “Ha! Now we have sailed against an iceberg!” and took another gulp of beer.
janarhia1 2 months ago
I dont think its water you hear at 5:02, but more like equipment and things falling towards one side of the bridge, confirming the list is getting really really bad - just as he says in the radio. Thats my guess. You can also hear a constant signal howling in the background on the bridge of Estonia. Imagine the chaos that took place there, all the officers on the bridge in total panic, trying to do something about the situation...omg what a scene. Just the thought of it gives me the creeps.
TheFraggle78 2 months ago
@TheFraggle78 the noise you are hearing in the background is most likely the general alarm the officers on the europa seem to be keeping it together considering the situation
ub40fx1 1 month ago
did even someone survive?
TheMynameischuck 2 months ago
@TheMynameischuck Yes, 137 of 989.
SuperKompisar 2 months ago
OMG, you can hear water @ 5:02
CitsKKas 3 months ago
thanks for this vid , it was really instructive and interesting , rest in peace
xtremeSplitz 3 months ago
28.9.2011
TheBazooka120 3 months ago
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sakulam 4 months ago
Nearly 17 years since the day of the catastrophy. Time passes by fast and we still don´t know the truth.
Rest in Peace.
goodfella1904 4 months ago
@goodfella1904 goverment - lie - bomb - no accident.
TheMynameischuck 2 months ago
Distress calls are all over the world to be held in ENGLISH!!
But meanwhile the stage of edcucation and training of crew, captains and officers is so poor that we have worldwide a serious security problem.
whispersoftheocean 4 months ago
What the man said at the last message?
koistinennnn 5 months ago
Voiko ahdistavampaa olla...
Nothing can be more distressing than this...
fakesmile90 5 months ago
I think the communication would have been much easier if everyone knew the same language. Finnish, Swedish, and English are very different.
Windoves 6 months ago
So if you are wondering, why the communication switched to Andres Tammes:
He was the only guy who could speak Finnish (you can find the this fact in the final report) in comparison to Tormi Ainsalu. So as you can hear, conversation is switching to Finnish, which would be much easier than english.
goodfella1904 6 months ago
Speak English ffs! It is absolutely possible that there were other boats nearer Estonia at this moment. But if they didn't understand finnish, it was impossible for them to get the position of Estonia.
I get angry when I hear that a better crew could have saved lives :(
Massabrassan 6 months ago
@Massabrassan These were the only ships near them. They didn't have time to do anything else. They could all speak English but Finnish was the easiest language (ie most efficient) for them to use.
lkaasikmae 6 months ago
It's quite scary when you can hear at 5:02 that something falls and crashes behind them at the bridge but still is quite so calm.
R.I.P to all of them who followed her down in the deep :(
emeswede12 6 months ago
Rest in eternal peace, Tormi Ainsalu and Andres Tammes. Those are names of the Estonian crew members, you can hear in this video. First, you hear Tormi Ainsalu, after this, the main part of the conversation is done by Andres Tammes.
At that night, radio communication was somewhat limited at the Baltic Sea. At that time of the conversation, the list must have been 60-70 degrees. You can have a look at the sinking sequence and you can easily see, why those brave crew
members became panicked.
goodfella1904 6 months ago
@goodfella1904 Do you have a list of the officers aboard as my fathers cousin was something like 2nd or 3rd officer, I think his name was Toomas Variksoo but I'm not 100% sure about his surname. He died when I was 1 and I'd like to know more about him as that is all I know.
lkaasikmae 6 months ago
1.35 The radio guy got fired and replaced by someone who actually replies to Silja Europa
R.I.P. All who perished in the disaster
IvanBeSerious 6 months ago
Voi huomata miten Estonian Suomalainen on ERITTÄIN hädissään, jos sama tilanne yrittäisin juosta kannelle ja ottaa kameran ja välkyttää salamavaloa.
teens2000 6 months ago
@teens2000 Tuossa tilanteessa on paras antaa hätäsanoma. Suomea puhuva oli Virolainen, sen huomaa esim. kielivirheistä. Mutta kyllä hän oli hädissään.
DEADLYZOQE 6 months ago
kylmät väreet / goosebumps Hrr..
rilluma 6 months ago
The Finnish guy is so calm even though the Estonian dude is totally freaking out. :)
LibertyWaxlips 7 months ago
My dads camera and 2 of his friends sinked with estonia R.I.P camera and 2 buddies
MrDoubleKiller 7 months ago 4
5:22 estonia kysyi kuinka kaukana olette
TheBazooka120 8 months ago
@TheBazooka120
Minusta se kyllä sanoo: ''...selvää mitä sä sanoit.''
Killjoy45 8 months ago
:(
SuperNorge111 8 months ago
heftig die armen menschen
SuperNorge111 8 months ago
i born september 1994 o.o and my dad go to Finland and that what the day estonia sinking o,o thats cool
CarroKaulitz1 8 months ago
very sad story.... Ships are not safety in storms :(
TheFin30 8 months ago
@TheFin30 You may be interested in this, it was written by one of the crew who survived. He explains why ships are so dangerous at the end. varsi.net/english/estonia1.shtml
lkaasikmae 6 months ago
theres something really eerie about this
scrubs21 9 months ago
´this was a nightmare for estonian people. i feel so sorry for those, whose family members and friends died aboard estonia, one was mine, too.
t2rnus 9 months ago
@t2rnus
Swedish people too! about 500 swedes and 250 estonians died if i remember it correctly. It was a nightmare for both of us...
LundaGrabben3 9 months ago
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@t2rnus Why do you feel sorry for them? Obviously they are idiots for not abandoning ship.
001looker 9 months ago
@001looker if it was you there, you wouldnt say that, would you.
t2rnus 9 months ago
@t2rnus No chances are I will be dead :D
001looker 9 months ago
@001looker well maybe you would be one of those "non-idiots" then :D im sure you wouldnt like to take part in a shipwreck
t2rnus 8 months ago
@t2rnus I was in Tallinn the other day (I'm 1/4 Estonian but visit from time to time) and just came across the memorial. It was emotional as I have a removed uncle of cousin (can't quite remember) who was 2nd or 3rd officer on board who went down with her. It was a great tragedy but we can at least look on it as an event that provoked changes that revolutionized ship safety. Sorry for your loss. RIP to all who went down with her.
lkaasikmae 6 months ago
kan dem inte fixa fucking bättre förbindelser, de hör ju förfan inte varandra.
maya06227 10 months ago
I'm about to cry listing this...
keskus2000 10 months ago
i live in a country named Estonia
TheXcools 10 months ago
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@TheXcools I live in a country that laugh at Estonia eeryday
001looker 9 months ago
on the wall and one on the floor. And then try to make it up to the stair ways at that circumstances. The other interesting point is: why nearly all members of the staff in the engine room survived? they said that they used the emergency exit through the chimney but at that bad list it would be nearly impossible. So there are opinions that they left very early after the beginning of the disaster while other people on the bridge did their duty until the end.
goodfella1904 10 months ago
...by the other ships. They had to call Helsinki radio by mobile phone.
When i remember it correctly some sources say that the communication on the Estonia was done via a walkie-talkie.
I really don´t know why they started the distress call at about 01.20. . The disaster started at around 1.00 with the temporary bad listing. After that time, there was only a time frame of 8-10 minutes for the passengers to reach the upper decks.
After that time frame, you had to walk with one foot .....
goodfella1904 10 months ago
That the crew (esp. the navigation officers) was unexperienced is not a fact or a surprise, you can read it directly out of those sailor profiles.
You should compare the sinking sequence with the timeframe of the radio communication and you will find out, that it was nearly impossible to stand upright on the bridge, when the Estonia crew sent their position data.
And that night, radio communication in that area was really limited. So it could be that some of the Estonia calls weren´t picked up
goodfella1904 10 months ago
@goodfella1904 Do you have the profiles as a family member was one of the officers on board but I now hardly anything about him. His name was Toomas (Variksoo I think)
lkaasikmae 6 months ago
my dad was meant to be on that trip... but he wasent! thank god for that!
Hallgren67 10 months ago
From what I've read and understand, those people controlling the ship were the worst amateur-sailors in history. 1) This is how you send a distress call on channel 16: "-Mayday, Mayday, Mayday here is "Estonia", "Estonia", "Estonia", Mayday "Estonia" on position N59o22 E21o41'. The ferry is sinking! Approx. 1000 persons will hit the lifeboats!"... 2) When the alarm went off, the speakers were all voices in Estonian. No swedish, no finnish, no danish, no english!! Who understands that?
Squad2ND 10 months ago
@Squad2ND How do u find ur position with a shuted down system?
JustErup 10 months ago
@JustErup
The captain and at least 4 other officers were on the bridge that day. None of them knew the position of the ferry despite Estonia was equipped with a digital sat-nav-system. This will at all times show the location. When the ship was sinking, no electricity was available, however, any competent navigator on the bridge all know the APPROX. POSITION where their ship is, or should know it. Information like that is in the backbone of a seaman, and *especially* on such a small route.
Squad2ND 10 months ago
@Squad2ND Sp bassically youre blaming dead people for panicing when they were at edge of death, am I right?
JustErup 10 months ago
@JustErup
What do you think a captains role is? A captain of a ferry carrying 900+ passengers, has been specially picked & trained to handle dangerous situations like this professionally, to remain calm and focus. It's his ultimate duty, as a captain, to guarantee the safety of his passengers and personnel at all costs. If the captain panics, he will make wrong choices (speed up the ferry), give false information (no proper alarm to people on-board/no proper mayday-call), and people will die.
Squad2ND 10 months ago
@Squad2ND Tell me since when does captain speaks on radio, this is not a boat, this is huge ship;
JustErup 10 months ago
@JustErup
It doesn't matter who's speaking on the radio. It could have been Rambo! As long as the location and information is correct, which it weren't. Ship, Boat, Ferry, Vessel, Airplane... - the captain is always in charge and takes the final decisions.
Squad2ND 10 months ago
@Squad2ND It is also said to me that Silja and Viking Line had both complained about the Estonia crews behavior on more than one occasion! Over a period of only a few months.
TheSlapdown 4 months ago
people had already drowned and died when the message was sent
vinterledig 10 months ago
i miss estonia i was on this boat i was alife
moivolbeat 11 months ago
They had two choices in that night. Leaving early and trying to reach a floating life raft (the choise the machinists had chosen) or stay on that ship, do their duty and try to give the excact coordinates to the ships nearby. Xouou can see from the sinking sequence and have a look at that communication timeframe, you can see that it has been really hard to read the GPS coordinates on the bridge
You don´t even know Finnish to hear the desperation and fright in the voices of those fellow guys.
goodfella1904 11 months ago
Guys i just want to add something to this emergency call. First of all, i don´t even speak Finnish or Swedish. But you can hear the fright in those voices. You can hear the voices of Tormi Ainsalu (the first one) and Andres Tammes. Both died on the Estonia in that night. Yes, this didn´t follow the rules for the emergency call.. Maybe they messed up the whole communcation (30 degrees list?). Helsinki Radio just stent a "Pan-Pan" call, instead of a Mayday call.
goodfella1904 11 months ago
SVERGIE
moivolbeat 11 months ago
Didn't they have fireworks or anything else to show where they were?
Serenissima84 11 months ago
The very big stress - Europa: Can you see us? Estonia: Yes, i can hear you...
tomashrdy 11 months ago
All hell must have been breaking loose on board. You can hear the banging in the background.
Photog422 11 months ago
themoviemakercap, ofc its their job but however you can never know exactly in what way you may react when it comes clear for you that your ship will go down and all that it means.but i totaly agree that they shall know it,even they have panic w/e this is something they should know how to do. also i think it not mather if they did not by the rules since the ships reply understood well that ship was in distress..really sad accident, may it never be forgotten,hopefully some good came from the bad!
ajlisknillat 1 year ago
Killjoy, I'm a captain an GMDSS General operator Certificated. If you work on a vessel you showld know exactly what to do on a distress situation. It's your job and you are been payed for this.
You cannot kill hundreds of people just because you are inconpetent to do the job you supose to do.
TheMoviemakerCap 1 year ago
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Incredible how these guys doný know how to send a distress message !!!!!
TheMoviemakerCap 1 year ago
@TheMoviemakerCap
Imagine yourself in the same situation and think again.
Killjoy45 1 year ago 29
I think the time was essential thing, they was late in mayday call. I think Estonia crew was unable to interpret swedish language... Biggest flaw was the ignorance of Estonia crew.. too late too big....
Gottarb 8 months ago
This is really scary yet really intriuging all the same!
thebladezmanII 1 year ago
My mom was in silja europa when it went to help estonia
J3ssE1997 1 year ago 25
@J3ssE1997 So were my dad, he was ment to be on Estonia that day but his secretary booked wrong.
masterchief11754 5 months ago
@J3ssE1997 My friend`s sister died on that ship...
Peju85 3 months ago
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KDogit88 1 year ago
In 1:03, i think the sound is "mechanic"=> is sounds like a wheel that spin? Could it not be sounds from the Egine? or from trucks that fell down on the cardeck?
And in 5:00 - the sounds is like water that break a window in a room and then sounds came when the water hit the walls inside the room? Could it be so, because he in the radio sounds so Scary because a window break down and water came in pehaps and that is the reason to why the radio recordings end?
Henkeboj90 1 year ago
My friends parents was on this ship ! R.I.P ! <3
Mrsupergirl1123 1 year ago
RIP 16 years almost to the day
dpz46 1 year ago
Those radiomen were so calm, relaxed. Except the one on Estonia. But still. Europa, Mariella and Symphony, they all what was going on. And they still were relaxed and just did their jobs. They didn't panic, they didn't even raise their voices. Brave men. The ones not among us anymore, rest in peace!
ollukex 1 year ago
@ollukex
They were not brave, just stupid.
sandhgreen 1 year ago
@ollukex Europa,Mariella etc guys are pro´s,...Once in the life time situation they was staying cool and making their job as good than they could...
Kleikka 1 year ago
Hej tillsammans, idag främ 16 ärs är 852 oskyldig mänsikor död pä den ESTONIA och ingen mänisk,ingen politik och ingen nation interessera sig för denne 852 mäniskor , för mig är det obgriplig eftersom det var och är mord vad där passera är i denne nat pä den Östersjön ! jag är den mening man mäste den ESTONIA bärgning p.g.a den oskyldig mäniskor vilket till idag där liggä i den ESTONIA .
Mvh pä Heiligenhafen (Tyskland)
MegaGOTLAND 1 year ago
There is no way of forgetting this tragedy... Only learning to live with the pain.
I lost my grandparents. My cousin and I should also have been aboard, but changed our minds some week before departure. Little did we know those decisions would save our lives.
AmyLilies 1 year ago
Today is the night from 27.09 to 28.09 .2010
i think to the peoples on the estonia -
RIP
from germany
I´m so sorry that so many must died!
cabrio379 1 year ago
Anyone know it this is "in real time"? I mean, was these messages over just this 5 minute-period or have they been "collected" so that we don't have sit and wait? What a terrible situation on Estonia it must've been...
RIP indeed, 16 years on the 28th
USAneedsaChange 1 year ago
@USAneedsaChange This is in real time. I hardly want to imagine it.
lkaasikmae 6 months ago
Why are the captains of Mariella and Silja Europa talking to each other in Swedish? They both speak with Finnish/Estonian accents...
SthlmHenrik 1 year ago
@SthlmHenrik Possibly a swedish-speaking finn (Finlandssvensk)
MrPrompter 1 year ago
@SthlmHenrik Mariellas captain is from Aland and Europas captain just had to learn swedish :)
pataljoonassi 1 year ago
@SthlmHenrik Viking Line is from ÅLAND and ppl speak Finlandssvenska there
Scandinavian92 11 months ago
its september 2010 and i cant forget these!
cabrio379 1 year ago
The guy on the ship should of just said: "Mayday! Mayday! This is the MV Estonia! We have an emergency! I repeat en emergency! We need assistance! Latitude 59, longitude 21:40 east! Where the fuck are you? We need help! For godsakes man, get moving!!!"
This would have gotten their attention. If they had made their situation sound more desperate, alot of people could have lived. Some of the Coastgaurds and rescuers, what a bunch of fucktards!
darthsugi89 1 year ago
@darthsugi89 well maybe it was because the estonian captain couldnt explaint the situation properly in finnish. but i agree that the crew on viking and silja should have reacted faster. But it is an uncommon situation here in finland that a ship sinks, so they didnt take it so seriously. After estonia disappeared from the radar i think they began to realize what happened. And estonia sank so fast that no matter how fast the rescuers would have reacted the same lives would have been lost.
mrkatala 1 year ago
sandhgreen 1 year ago
@sandhgreen Oh thanks Spock, your a great ambassador to the Federation. Proper procedure my ass!
darthsugi89 1 year ago
Saknar båten...
latte1973 1 year ago 3
RIP my dad
DUMPPERI 1 year ago 3
@DUMPPERI lol varmasti
pataljoonassi 1 year ago
Out of a total of 989 passengers and crew on board 138 were rescued alive but one died later in the hospital.[1] The accident claimed 852 lives (501 Swedes, 285 Estonians, 17 Latvians, 10 Finns and 44 people of other nationalities: 1 from Belarus, 1 from Canada, 1 from France, 1 from the Netherlands, 1 from Nigeria, 1 from Ukraine, 1 from United Kingdom, 2 from Morocco, 3 from Lithuania, 5 from Denmark, 6 from Norway, 10 from Germany, 11 from Russia), by drowning and hypothermia
MsBalticStar 1 year ago
When your in trouble at sea everyone comes to your aid. no matter what country your from or if you have a quarrel with the other ships capt. no matter what you help anyone calling a mayday period.
KosukiFire 1 year ago
did the captain of the boat or the one who was talking die?
lieutnantmaster 1 year ago
@lieutnantmaster Captain of estonia died, unfortunatly
goldbullet50 1 year ago
@goldbullet50 no he was seen in an ambulance after the sinking in sweden :P Havent you done some research? It was in the news to...
123norway 1 year ago
I was on another ferry in the area that night Estonia where sinking. I remember the waves were so big that it was very difficult just to get to my cabin to get sleep. Its really moving to hear this.
varus1985 1 year ago
There's no rush lads!!!
monkeyboy27476 1 year ago
R.I.P. ESTONIA.....we never forget you and all souls what never return from you....
sallycarsfun 1 year ago
This is extremely sad. I remember watching news about it when it happened. So so sad :(
GinGeri84 1 year ago
Så tungt....R.I.P
latte1973 1 year ago
Kes kurat pani DISLIKE??
JannuPass 1 year ago
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Russians sunk this ship as a warning to CIA and MI6.
Indipuk 1 year ago
@Indipuk
And monkeys might fly out of my ass. It's a CIA plot!
sandhgreen 1 year ago 2
Hands up all those seaman who cried listening to this ?
I know i did.....
ihaveairlockers 1 year ago 95
@ihaveairlockers ME TOO
latte1973 1 year ago
@ihaveairlockers
Unbelievable ... I am not a real seaman ... and it's hart to listen to it!
torbenhoeeg 1 year ago 3
@ihaveairlockers
vinterledig 10 months ago
@ihaveairlockers when i first starting watching i did not expect the video to provoke such an emotional reaction. at 5:09 it really really did, you can hear the fear in his voice.
scrubs21 9 months ago 2
@ihaveairlockers Näättem eidät kyllä, joo kuulen kyllä, Siinä vaiheessa ois pitän painostaa, että näättekö perkele
Peju85 9 months ago
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@ihaveairlockers I just laughed at them for not speaking English
001looker 9 months ago
@001looker
Please remove your posted comment. This is not something to laugh at.
I strongly urge you to do the right thing and think about the comment you just wrote. It's offensive to those who perished, it's offensive to those who survived and it's offensive to those whom helped rescue the survivors. Please remove your post, thank you. I am asking nicely. :o)
As of today, 94 people as well as me cried listening to this. Please be understanding.....
ihaveairlockers 9 months ago
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@ihaveairlockers Wow you asking nicely? What what will happen if i tell you go f your self? hahahaha Ever hear of free speech? Request to remove the post is here by denied.
001looker 9 months ago
@001looker
I ask you nicely a second time. Can you please remove your comments which you left on this video ?
I would like you to do the right thing. This is a very solemn, sad and serious video. Your comments are not appropriate for this kind of video, thank you.
This video is not something to laugh at. It's quite sad.
Yes, I have heard of free speech. You are allowed to say whatever you like. But your comments just make you look like an immature and disrespectful fool
Have some respect
ihaveairlockers 9 months ago
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@ihaveairlockers Request to have some respect is here by denied. I love being an asshole so looking like an immature and disrespectful fool is fine by me. So you're welcome to ask third time if you're that stupid to think that i care hahahaha
001looker 9 months ago
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ihaveairlockers 9 months ago
@001looker
ihaveairlockers 7 months ago
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Henkeboj90 1 year ago
Hyvin sanottu "hitto"
Pinwiini88 1 year ago
silja europa oleks pidanud minema seda teed mida kõik laevad kasutavad et rootsi saada siis oleks ehk rohkem inimesi päästetud
wasabibubble 1 year ago
1:03 - 1:05
You can hear the crew calling "Mayday" You also hear sounds from the boat in the background It must be extremely loud so you can hear it on the radio as well..It's sinking..
Same noise at 5:00 - 5:05
You can hear the fear in his voice. He knows he's going to die soon. There's no going back.
juksori1 1 year ago 41
@juksori1 So sad
Henkeboj90 1 year ago
@juksori1
True.
5:03 it sounds like something very heavy is moving...
Killjoy45 1 year ago
Tragist !!
matteboy78 1 year ago
my son is a young german seaman and i hope that he never must expirience that!
cabrio379 1 year ago
well you'd better not be on ships that smuggle weapons out of russia ...
lexyzimus 1 year ago
Vid 1:01 på videon kl 00.24: Mayday mayday efterföljs av ett rullande ljud (lyssna noga) av utrustning som rullar ner för golvet och träffar i någon vägg eller så.
Allt tyder på att båten har börjar röra sig mer åt styrbord eftersom att rösten höjs i panik ;( från att ha låtit lugnare , vid 5:03 en utrustning som flyger in i väggen och kraschas eller tom fönster som krossas utav vatten, lyssna på 5:23 i bakgrunden hörs ett fräsande ljud, kan vara vatten som forsar in gnom ett krossat fönster
Henkeboj90 1 year ago
@Henkeboj90 5:20
Henkeboj90 1 year ago
on tää niin hirveää kuunneltavaa
K4175U 1 year ago
he said mayday mayday and europa are you calling mayday what a fucking deaf bitch
DolkyGuy 1 year ago
@DolkyGuy
he has to confirm that they were calling mayday
stuartmac88 1 year ago
@stuartmac88
The Estonia Officers were unprofessional. They did NOT know how to use their radio equipment properly.
sandhgreen 1 year ago
@DolkyGuy A mayday should be a general distress call, not a call to a specific ship. Silja Europa dealt with the panicking Estonia crew very professionally...and with Viking Line and tens of other ships saved many lives. Listen to all of the videos, the rescue ships did an outstanding job in very difficult conditions.R.I.P all those who were trapped inside her.
TheSlapdown 1 year ago
@TheSlapdown pfff
DolkyGuy 1 year ago
@DolkyGuy Grow up silly boy
TheSlapdown 1 year ago
@TheSlapdown go fuck your self fucktard
DolkyGuy 1 year ago
@DolkyGuy Not grown up yet then?!
TheSlapdown 1 year ago
@TheSlapdown
Yes... a distress call from a ship is always addressed as an "ALL STATIONS" call.
sandhgreen 1 year ago
@DolkyGuy
NOT DEAF. The Estonia did NOT use proper distress procedure. That caused much confusion.
sandhgreen 1 year ago
Jan-tore was the Captain on silja europa
Bengbusen 1 year ago
what 1994 silja europa captain was Esa mäkelä@Bengbusen
vexisalmi 1 year ago
@vexisalmi agree
Henkeboj90 1 year ago
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Henkeboj90 1 year ago
A very sad night indeed. Sleep peacefully crew and passengers lost under the sea.
Estonia so alone..in the dark...sad , sad.
LifeBoatSinking 1 year ago
My brother died in estonia
wasabibubble 1 year ago
This is so sad! I remember seeing it on the news the day after the sinking. I was 11 years old but I will never forget seeing the pictures on the news! A crying man was interviewed holding a teddy bear desperately waiting for his daughter who were on Estonia. Dear God it was heartbraking!
Note: Listen to the horrorfying sound when 2nd officer Ainsalu is calling "Mayday, Mayday"
R.I.P from Denmark
sagachris 1 year ago
If those idiots were talking faster, more people could be saved...
xsaab93x 1 year ago
@xsaab93x
Also, if they had used proper voice procedure AND knew where they were, it would have helped greatly.
sandhgreen 1 year ago
@sandhgreen
when you consider it happened so quick thet probably never had time to look at their position, they probably didnt even think they would need to know where they were as they wouldnt of thought anything would happen,
as for my reply to dolkyguy, i think you get me wrong.
i said that the europa was merely asking if it was calling mayday, as this should happen.
its no point the europa going to a mayday if it dont exsist, so europa had to confirm it.
stuartmac88 1 year ago
@stuartmac88
They are required to plot their position hourly. You are not a sailor, you don't understand how INCOMPETENT it is to NOT KNOW what your position is.
sandhgreen 1 year ago
@sandhgreen
You fucking prick!
Quit with your fucking bullshit!
Imagine if you would been there in that night. The fucking ship is almost upside down and keeps sloping VERY fast, people screaming and running with panic and getting crushed by heavy movables, water flooding inside the ship and to crown all; devices including radio barely works because of the sea water so that its ALMOST FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO CALL HELP!
Killjoy45 1 year ago