Did Orwell intend a comparison between oligarchical, totalitarian systems & how religions have operated, at times, in history; censoring higher criticism of the Bible & sceptical comment from the media. Certainly the internet allows for freedom of thought. Sometimes religious people self censor & read only apologetics. For a balanced view read both sides of argument. For freedom try Robert M Price, Dan Barker, John Loftus, Victor. J Stenger, Valerie Tarico, ZomGitsCriss on youtube
so I just read the book and while quite much enjoyed the first half must say I found the second half very dissapointing.Goldstein's book then O'Brien's attempts to convert Winston Smith sounds rather naive and filled with poor excuses.Having in mind the cult status the book upholds I can't get rid of the illusion I've been given an altered version from the Ministry of Truth...or maybe Orwell's just overrated?
Everyone asking about the music: I can't remember! It's a national anthem, I just forgot which country, and looking through my source files, I can't find it.
@krackerdog For the most part yeah but the politically correct speech and manipulation of the masses via public enemies and mass "hate idols" is more similar to 1984 I think
@krackerdog 1984 is for Britain. We over here are almost there, people can't see the barrel of the gun right in front of them.
We fight wars overseas despite no true threat to ourselves (War is Peace)
We take away freedoms to protect ourselves from shadows (Freedom is Slavery)
and worst of all
We destroy our education system and turn children into the propoganda machines of the state and make parents afraid of their children with so called "child protection laws" (Ignorance is Power)
flumoxed38 In 1984 everybody was reading this 30 year old book. Now in 2010 it's becoming a reality. A horrifying reality. Technology has unfortunately made it possible. Life is no longer worth living. These are the beginnings, it's only going to get worse and we HAVE to do something!!! 1 second ago
@flumoxed38 CRIMETHINK ! you will be vaporized ! no, you will be reconverted. you will learn to love this world, YOUR society. you will love Big Brother. long live BB.
What a great book, but I'm sick of hearing conservatives and libertarians tell me about the evils of big brother but not even realizing that Orwell was Democratic Socialist who was further left than the every so scary Obama
You are absolute correct obnoxiousnickname and the person who gave you the thumbs down is a clueless retard. Orwell certainly had no love for the euphmestically named 'free' market.
@darthracer777 Well its Neo-conservative economics that got us where we are today, budget deficits sky high due to extreme military spending, terrorist wars on behalf of and against US interests all over the globe and a new arms race would NOT have happened if there was a viable US socialist party even on the ballot, not even winning all the time
You are mistaken. All the trillions spent on 'solving' society's ills primarily started with the Great Society 'entitlement' spending in the 60s. Yes, trillions and trillions spent and we still have poverty---and always will. The U.S has been trying the socialist experiment for many decades and now, we are broke and they want to spend triilions more. It is nothing short of insanity.
@Fetchdafish LOL, I originally left off the intro, but my professor had no idea what the three slogans were about, so I threw on the cheeky intro as a little jab for being ignorant of such a great book.
I disagree about Winston selling out. Perhaps you could say that he gave in, but selling out? He was tortured repeatedly, and I believe that he felt that he didn't have much of a choice. Not that he had much of a choice to begin with! He was merely trying to preserve his own existence! The book seems to be much a warning about the demoralization of society, and the end product which is the apathy of mankind and the envelopment of the government over mankind!
I don't think you understand the point of it at all. If the book had ended with Winston winning over Ingsoc, the book would have failed to deliver its objective. The book is a warning, and how do you warn people with a happy ending? You would have created apathy, and you would have made the book a sheer piece of mediocrity. The fact you felt betrayed by the book only show its effective power to haunt you. :)
@krackerdog dopplegood comrade, but do you have any razorblades for me?
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Did Orwell intend a comparison between oligarchical, totalitarian systems & how religions have operated, at times, in history; censoring higher criticism of the Bible & sceptical comment from the media. Certainly the internet allows for freedom of thought. Sometimes religious people self censor & read only apologetics. For a balanced view read both sides of argument. For freedom try Robert M Price, Dan Barker, John Loftus, Victor. J Stenger, Valerie Tarico, ZomGitsCriss on youtube
zytigon 5 months ago
That is a pretty sweet anthem.
mustang6172 6 months ago
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Closely listen to an Inception dvd made before the January 8th Tucson shooting, especially around, "'Do It.'"
jamestargetedindiv 8 months ago
If America is spying on us and knows what we're doing, why are there still criminals on the loose?
Karnezar 8 months ago
I don't think Malawi is an Orwellian dystopia...I just thought their national anthem had a wonderful flavor
LOL XD
Killybillee 8 months ago
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"Waging wars so that we might know peace,
braving hardship so that we might know opportunity,
and sometimes paying the ultimate price so that, so that we might know freedom"
- Barrack Houssein Obama
July 4, 2009
Gat720Dua 10 months ago
hey krackerdog, can I use the video for a short film I'll be doing? you'll be credited of course :)
MouzerMalti 1 year ago
@MouzerMalti Sure, I wish I could find the source files to provide a higher-quality version, but they've been lost.
krackerdog 1 year ago
Cool vid man.. i'm reading it now witch is why I was looking at this stuf..
lol just for lols im sorting it so i can have "The tellascrean" as my tv screen saver lols
999rooster999 1 year ago
so I just read the book and while quite much enjoyed the first half must say I found the second half very dissapointing.Goldstein's book then O'Brien's attempts to convert Winston Smith sounds rather naive and filled with poor excuses.Having in mind the cult status the book upholds I can't get rid of the illusion I've been given an altered version from the Ministry of Truth...or maybe Orwell's just overrated?
VeghvaryZ 1 year ago
Youtube is Insoc!
Komnenit 1 year ago
Funniest thing ever.
supermax110 1 year ago
doubleplusgood presentation. can be aired on telescreens tomorrow. long live BB.
zecle 1 year ago
Coming to your telescreens every Sunday at 9!
TheEloeo 1 year ago
brilliant! lol
xl0l0l0l0lx 1 year ago
2+2=5
Didymosrules 1 year ago 4
Everyone asking about the music: I can't remember! It's a national anthem, I just forgot which country, and looking through my source files, I can't find it.
krackerdog 1 year ago
Nah, America is headed more toward Brave New World than 1984.
krackerdog 1 year ago 9
@krackerdog Well said.
bongolongo 1 year ago
@krackerdog For the most part yeah but the politically correct speech and manipulation of the masses via public enemies and mass "hate idols" is more similar to 1984 I think
Rogalsfist 1 year ago
@krackerdog 1984 is for Britain. We over here are almost there, people can't see the barrel of the gun right in front of them.
We fight wars overseas despite no true threat to ourselves (War is Peace)
We take away freedoms to protect ourselves from shadows (Freedom is Slavery)
and worst of all
We destroy our education system and turn children into the propoganda machines of the state and make parents afraid of their children with so called "child protection laws" (Ignorance is Power)
TheConnorian 1 month ago
flumoxed38 In 1984 everybody was reading this 30 year old book. Now in 2010 it's becoming a reality. A horrifying reality. Technology has unfortunately made it possible. Life is no longer worth living. These are the beginnings, it's only going to get worse and we HAVE to do something!!! 1 second ago
flumoxed38 1 year ago
@flumoxed38 CRIMETHINK ! you will be vaporized ! no, you will be reconverted. you will learn to love this world, YOUR society. you will love Big Brother. long live BB.
zecle 1 year ago
what is the background music?
dcspc 2 years ago
What a great book, but I'm sick of hearing conservatives and libertarians tell me about the evils of big brother but not even realizing that Orwell was Democratic Socialist who was further left than the every so scary Obama
obnoxiousnickname 2 years ago
You are absolute correct obnoxiousnickname and the person who gave you the thumbs down is a clueless retard. Orwell certainly had no love for the euphmestically named 'free' market.
CosmosLoyal 2 years ago
@obnoxiousnickname
hey.....I bet that knowing how the world is turning out today, Orwell would have 'converted' to a libertarian or a conservative.
darthracer777 1 year ago
@darthracer777 Well its Neo-conservative economics that got us where we are today, budget deficits sky high due to extreme military spending, terrorist wars on behalf of and against US interests all over the globe and a new arms race would NOT have happened if there was a viable US socialist party even on the ballot, not even winning all the time
obnoxiousnickname 1 year ago
@obnoxiousnickname
You are mistaken. All the trillions spent on 'solving' society's ills primarily started with the Great Society 'entitlement' spending in the 60s. Yes, trillions and trillions spent and we still have poverty---and always will. The U.S has been trying the socialist experiment for many decades and now, we are broke and they want to spend triilions more. It is nothing short of insanity.
darthracer777 1 year ago
why are there two version of Ingsoc's logo?
SunnyLEGO 2 years ago
Oh! Amazing! Please make more of this propaganda. Perhaps without the introduction, and a little longer. It's amazing.
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
@Fetchdafish LOL, I originally left off the intro, but my professor had no idea what the three slogans were about, so I threw on the cheeky intro as a little jab for being ignorant of such a great book.
krackerdog 1 year ago
@krackerdog wait, your *professor* wasn't aware of 1984??? I really hope you're studying deep sea geology or something where they don't have books!
gilesderoet 1 year ago
Doubleplusgood
TheHateWeek 2 years ago 29
lol.
modernchica101 2 years ago
@TheHateWeek You, sir, deserve many, many, many internets.
EricksHinumaru 1 year ago
I just hate the whole premise of the story... Winsto nsold out in the end, and i guessit is understandable, but i felt completly betrayed.
BlackRoze131 2 years ago
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RoryNeala 2 years ago
I disagree about Winston selling out. Perhaps you could say that he gave in, but selling out? He was tortured repeatedly, and I believe that he felt that he didn't have much of a choice. Not that he had much of a choice to begin with! He was merely trying to preserve his own existence! The book seems to be much a warning about the demoralization of society, and the end product which is the apathy of mankind and the envelopment of the government over mankind!
truethatbe 2 years ago
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the book sucks
BlackRoze131 2 years ago
Sucks? At least give some reasons why you think that.
ladezkik 2 years ago
I don't think you understand the point of it at all. If the book had ended with Winston winning over Ingsoc, the book would have failed to deliver its objective. The book is a warning, and how do you warn people with a happy ending? You would have created apathy, and you would have made the book a sheer piece of mediocrity. The fact you felt betrayed by the book only show its effective power to haunt you. :)
RoryNeala 2 years ago 3
what music is this?
dcspc 2 years ago
Just curious, but what is the song in the background? It's not the song from the 1984 movie with John Hurt, obviously.
danielinraleigh 2 years ago
only book i ever read that i liked that was forced on me (school sucks)
Gamer4672 3 years ago 4
I love the Ingsoc Logo
GayGeisha 3 years ago 2
Great book
ModGyo 3 years ago
good.
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Sad but true.
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audie1suprgrl 4 years ago
Malcom Muggeridge said it would always make him laugh that his friend George Orwell based the Ministry of Truth on the BBC.
neothomist1275 4 years ago 15
Yes! There's that story about BBC's room 101
RafaellaSousa 2 years ago