My name is Nini, and I was raped before I died. I use to enjoy pain and now I inflict it upon people. I was tortured and raped until I could no longer breathe. Those meanies now suffer and die, and those who do not repost this to 5 videos will die too. I hate this too but I believe at the strike of 12 am, those who did not repost this will die a horrible death after seeing a bloody face covered with long black hair. Those who repost this will get a kiss from their crush
Both Beethoven and Brahams are great composers. I have always enjoyed Brahams' music. I often hear 'critics' (aren't we all) say that Brahams is a lesser composer. The more I listen to Brahams, the more I appreciate his genious at writing music of character within a structured form. Beethoven broke with tradition so many times (Eroica dischord and the string quartet with ? movements). Brahams was a master of the traditional but developed a perfect version of it which rises far above the ordinary
@PacRimjim U can hum any of Brahms sym's and only a very very few people will know the composer. Sing the 5thbor 9th themes and alot of people will say Beethoven.
@itsjustnopinionok For those who hum Brahms in their mind and really enjoy it, they don't need that any one recognizes any theme. Right the contrary to the most "Beethoven fans". "frei aber einsam"---I guess Brahms never thought to compose for "a lot gf people".
@PacRimJim i don't think so. Alot of people hum the 9th's forth melody some time in their lives, and his 5th first movement theme might as well be played at the birth of every child. brahms got some masterpieces. But to say his first is better than any of Beet's is very unjust.
Brahms never published anything that wasn't perfect. Leave it to a master such as Brahms to write the opening to his first ever Symphony much like the strong, deep, and meaningful openings of a Requiem.
Klemperer was a genius... even after all these years I haven't found a recording with the same passion and soul....thanks for uploading and sharing. A real treat!!
Among my collections : Walter, Karajan, Klemperer, This Kemperer's is the my most favourite for Brahms Sym 1- esp the opening of 1st Movt. After hearing this, I just can't hear more than 5 min. from the rest performances.
Among my collections : Walter, Karajan, Klemperer, This Kemperer's is the my most favourite- esp the opening of 1st Movt. After hearing this, I just can't hear more than 5 min. from the rest performances.
@billyguns2 I absolutely agree with ur comment my friend. Klemperer's reading of the score is deep, the timpani motifs at the opening is very dignified with high sense of drama, that's how Brahms' NO.1 should always sound like. Otto Klemperer is a grand master from the old school, it is beyond doubt that this old man was the flag bearer of the great Germanic music tradition in his time. I love this recording, it sounds Brahms. Bravo.
the woodwinds and fr. horn writing and the strings is one of the marvels of symph literature on da page it i sgenius and then the physical sound.God it took him time but IS DIS INCREDIBLE> DID BRAHMS TEACH COMPOSITION > HIS ORCHESTRATIONSARE MARVELOUS.END OR WORLD MUSIC BALANCED by wit and acerbity & etc.
@billyguns2 it is said that those tympani beats at the beginning are the heavily treading footsteps of beethoven closely following behind, at least in the mind of the heir apparent of german romanticism--Johannes Brahms
Among all the Brahms 1 recordings I've listened to, Klemperer had the finest sense of structure. That 's why his brahms are so amazing. He made this symphony especially magnificant.
I think that not repeating sonata form expositions had to do with fitting the movements onto a side of the LPs of the day, which were roughly 30 minutes a side...someone correct me if they know another reason.
@psalmtone2008 That may have cemented it but I don't think it was strictly a technical thing. The entire debate about through-composed vs. repeated sections has a very long history. It was kind of when Sibelius started doing all of his continuous symphonic works, also. Another reason would be the rise of the printing press combined with the relative affordability and homogeneity of instruments: The Death of the Trills. Musicians got stuck on the page while the orchestra expanded. Maybe?
Great performance. Too bad Klemperer does not repeat the exposition. That repeat, from the first ending to to the beginning, is one of the most tonally startling transitions in music. Yet it's understandable. In 1958 hardly any conductor repeated sonata form expositions.
It's my understanding (please someone let me know if I'm wrong) that Brahms for some timedespaired of writing a symphony because it was thought that Beethoven had said everything and Brahms "felt his specter looming over him".
I might have confused Brahms with Schuman in this context, but at any rate it seems to me Brahms certainly need not have been trepidatious . This is magnificent.
And, in terms of sheer inventiveness, it seems to me he straddles the harbor alone. Absolutely no composer before or since has so fundamentally, so profoundly, transformed what came immediately before him -compare the Eroica to the later symphonies of Hayden.
@polymath7 That's all right. I like what you said and I completely agree even though I think all of those 'colossal' composers (Bach, Mozart etc.) at one point or another reached a creative peak in which they alone created something new and groundbreaking just like Beethoven. Only difference is, Beethoven surely made a bigger bang and took music to a completely different plane. We should be very thankful for him and his unrepeatable talent. What a man!
@polymath7 Oh and if you haven't, please search on YouTube Leonard Bernstein's Omnibus videos. Those are various videos from a '50s TV show hosted by Leonard himself. He gives such a great (but brief) insight into Jazz, Bach, Beethoven, modern music, the art of conducting etc. You'll surely like it, I guarantee.
@Dodo251 Thanks a lot for the recommendation, I have enjoyed watching them very much. However, all the videos I have found are fragments; do you know where I can find the complete recording?
@polymath7 I couldn't agree with you or Leonard more. Beethoven is such an unique composer and from my layman point of view, no one, absolutely no one can reach such a level of musical creativity as he did. I'm not that familiar with music theory but from what I've read and after listening to his most famous works I can surely say that for me, he is the greatest composer of all time. Bernstein would disagree with me, saying that Bach is and I can see his point but somehow, Beethoven is my choice
Just to be clear, were you affirming my attribution of that quote to Bernstein? Because I'm far from certain.
I could say a quite a bit -quite a bit more than anyone would care to hear- about whether I think Bach or Beethoven the greater composer, in which moods I tend to think the one or the other, and why. But this would require a rumination and deliberate choice of words I don't at the moment have time for.
I will indeed do a search for the Omnibus videos. Thanks. :-)
@polymath7 Well, I'm not certain that Bernstein said that either but from what I've seen, watching his videos, it could have been him. And by all means, search for those videos. They are true gems on YouTube, gems for all the people who love and appreciate both classical music and this man's gigantic musical knowledge.
@Gargantupimp i believe a composer is great if he/she can reach and pull and emotion from you. all emotions are equal, therefore if a composer tries to evict a feeling, they are considered great. in my opinion.
Here is the birth of one's life marching through the journey of life and the music punches him/her and succomb to calmer moments as if to suppose everything will be splendid and lovable and even if it quite so for a long while, really pleasant soothing passage returns to higher tones, maybe falls and hunting opening season and snow fall, how beautiful and cruel. Almost hiding until a more balance period arrives and settles. It is very repetitive to the ear and the end fades away almost unnoticed
I should rather have said "No sentimental performance by Maestro Klemperer here!" i.e., his performnace is strong, rugged, and grand, not weak and sentimental. Is that clear?
billyguns2, wouldn't you agree that this peformance has both and quite well balanced at times. However, Mr Klemperer, does not go to extreme in either way, it is a solemn performance.
Stunning! Perfectly conducted and played IMHO.Klemperer was up there among the best Brahms interpreters of the 20 Th. century with greats such as Bruno Walter and Felix Weingartner
Oh Mann! Was hat KL'empereur mit dem armen Brahms gemacht. Gefällt mir gar nicht. Diese Symphonie vergleichen mit Schuricht oder Szell - da ist weniger Sturheit und mehr Genie drin.
makes me wanna twerk my ass
ergarza17 1 month ago
Comment removed
redsun51 2 months ago
@redsun51 korg music mania Japan
redsun51 2 months ago
@redsun51 watch?v=x_jaCThdaBo
redsun51 2 months ago
the beginning is so fu..ing epic!!!
Jo2142 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
My name is Nini, and I was raped before I died. I use to enjoy pain and now I inflict it upon people. I was tortured and raped until I could no longer breathe. Those meanies now suffer and die, and those who do not repost this to 5 videos will die too. I hate this too but I believe at the strike of 12 am, those who did not repost this will die a horrible death after seeing a bloody face covered with long black hair. Those who repost this will get a kiss from their crush
kabuto01011995 4 months ago in playlist kabuto01011995's favorites
This piece starts in Medias Res
ifrit26 5 months ago
Both Beethoven and Brahams are great composers. I have always enjoyed Brahams' music. I often hear 'critics' (aren't we all) say that Brahams is a lesser composer. The more I listen to Brahams, the more I appreciate his genious at writing music of character within a structured form. Beethoven broke with tradition so many times (Eroica dischord and the string quartet with ? movements). Brahams was a master of the traditional but developed a perfect version of it which rises far above the ordinary
Ceremare 5 months ago
@PacRimjim U can hum any of Brahms sym's and only a very very few people will know the composer. Sing the 5thbor 9th themes and alot of people will say Beethoven.
itsjustnopinionok 6 months ago
@itsjustnopinionok For those who hum Brahms in their mind and really enjoy it, they don't need that any one recognizes any theme. Right the contrary to the most "Beethoven fans". "frei aber einsam"---I guess Brahms never thought to compose for "a lot gf people".
akagi2002 4 months ago
@akagi2002 is this gonna get stupid? I really don't care one way or the other. I really lik them both. Is that ok now?
itsjustnopinionok 4 months ago 3
@PacRimJim i don't think so. Alot of people hum the 9th's forth melody some time in their lives, and his 5th first movement theme might as well be played at the birth of every child. brahms got some masterpieces. But to say his first is better than any of Beet's is very unjust.
itsjustnopinionok 6 months ago
Brahms's First was called Beethoven's Tenth.
I, however, think it superior to them.
PacRimJim 6 months ago
Know who Otto's son was?
Werner, aka Colonel Klink in Hogan's Heroes.
PacRimJim 6 months ago
Klemp hits the nail on the head, yet again. One of the great interpreters of all time.
yenrabaraho 7 months ago
Brahms never published anything that wasn't perfect. Leave it to a master such as Brahms to write the opening to his first ever Symphony much like the strong, deep, and meaningful openings of a Requiem.
Johlies 7 months ago
44 seconds of purging. Incredible. Slow tempo and forceful timpani do this piece justice. Thank you Klemperer!
MnDxWRAITHx 7 months ago
Great 1st movement, but he seems to run out of steam in the coda of the final movement. Too bad.
Opoczynski 8 months ago
yes! that introduction is perfect.
murraybowles 9 months ago
Klemperer was a genius... even after all these years I haven't found a recording with the same passion and soul....thanks for uploading and sharing. A real treat!!
daxdax500 9 months ago
Among my collections : Walter, Karajan, Klemperer, This Kemperer's is the my most favourite for Brahms Sym 1- esp the opening of 1st Movt. After hearing this, I just can't hear more than 5 min. from the rest performances.
TommyLeungCW 9 months ago
Among my collections : Walter, Karajan, Klemperer, This Kemperer's is the my most favourite- esp the opening of 1st Movt. After hearing this, I just can't hear more than 5 min. from the rest performances.
TommyLeungCW 9 months ago
The force of the timpani at the beginning being so great makes such a difference
IssacAndSophie 10 months ago
This is therapeutic.
mad4you1000 10 months ago
mmm I'm seeing this piece live in October. Can't wait
themurge 11 months ago
Brahms' first is not just a symphony, it is a towering musical Cathedral!!
sobelou 11 months ago
Powerful timpani!!!
chezzo88 11 months ago
he is great :)
Kippchenschnorrer 11 months ago
HUGE.
petezilla 11 months ago
Plongée dans les profondeurs de l'âme, obscurité et lumière, le mystère de la vie
meyronnet73 11 months ago
@billyguns2 I absolutely agree with ur comment my friend. Klemperer's reading of the score is deep, the timpani motifs at the opening is very dignified with high sense of drama, that's how Brahms' NO.1 should always sound like. Otto Klemperer is a grand master from the old school, it is beyond doubt that this old man was the flag bearer of the great Germanic music tradition in his time. I love this recording, it sounds Brahms. Bravo.
TheVaccumtube 1 year ago
Grips like a fist.
peachmelba16 1 year ago
Brahms is my grand... grand uncle :)
told me my grandmum :D:D
Kippchenschnorrer 1 year ago 9
@Kippchenschnorrer That's fantastic. You must be so proud.
peachmelba16 1 year ago
@Kippchenschnorrer amazing :O
catwoooman 1 year ago
@Kippchenschnorrer :)
MisteriosaVampiria 3 months ago
the oboe part is really touching. Great interpretation by Kleperer and PO. Bravo!
cedricyu803 1 year ago
the woodwinds and fr. horn writing and the strings is one of the marvels of symph literature on da page it i sgenius and then the physical sound.God it took him time but IS DIS INCREDIBLE> DID BRAHMS TEACH COMPOSITION > HIS ORCHESTRATIONSARE MARVELOUS.END OR WORLD MUSIC BALANCED by wit and acerbity & etc.
lovesGenet 1 year ago
I always liked the darkness of Brahms.
BIGR7272 1 year ago 2
All German, all the time!
radiootoo 1 year ago
I really adore klemperer's structure construction in this symphony.
changjiang001 1 year ago
Beethoven didnt write such beautiful melodies of woodwines as Brahms did
changjiang001 1 year ago
I have always loved this symphony, particularly the 1st movement. Pure music! Klemperer's interpretation is great, very dramatic.
QMPhilosophe 1 year ago
It sounds like Beethoven, there are many similarities.
MrLandale 1 year ago
@MrLandale "Any ass can see that."—Johannes Brahms
imperiumdiaboli 6 months ago
does anyone know where the flute solo in movement 4 is?
kyoyaoliver10th 1 year ago
That's why we call it ''The symphonie no.10 of Beethoven''
C'est pourquoi on l'appelle La symphonie no.10 de Beethoven
On ressent l'émotion de la même façon que dans le premier mouvement de la neuvième.
MegaDocalex 1 year ago
That's why we call it ''The symphonie no.10 of Beethoven''
C'est pourquoi on l'appelle La symphonie no.10 de Beethoven
On ressent l'émotion de la même façon que dans le premier mouvement de la neuvième.
MegaDocalex 1 year ago
@billyguns2 it is said that those tympani beats at the beginning are the heavily treading footsteps of beethoven closely following behind, at least in the mind of the heir apparent of german romanticism--Johannes Brahms
turquoise770 1 year ago
sexybrahms
sexybrahms 1 year ago 18
Among all the Brahms 1 recordings I've listened to, Klemperer had the finest sense of structure. That 's why his brahms are so amazing. He made this symphony especially magnificant.
changjiang001 1 year ago
I think that not repeating sonata form expositions had to do with fitting the movements onto a side of the LPs of the day, which were roughly 30 minutes a side...someone correct me if they know another reason.
psalmtone2008 1 year ago
@psalmtone2008 That may have cemented it but I don't think it was strictly a technical thing. The entire debate about through-composed vs. repeated sections has a very long history. It was kind of when Sibelius started doing all of his continuous symphonic works, also. Another reason would be the rise of the printing press combined with the relative affordability and homogeneity of instruments: The Death of the Trills. Musicians got stuck on the page while the orchestra expanded. Maybe?
ezekieloak 1 year ago
Great performance. Too bad Klemperer does not repeat the exposition. That repeat, from the first ending to to the beginning, is one of the most tonally startling transitions in music. Yet it's understandable. In 1958 hardly any conductor repeated sonata form expositions.
Opoczynski 1 year ago
It's my understanding (please someone let me know if I'm wrong) that Brahms for some timedespaired of writing a symphony because it was thought that Beethoven had said everything and Brahms "felt his specter looming over him".
I might have confused Brahms with Schuman in this context, but at any rate it seems to me Brahms certainly need not have been trepidatious . This is magnificent.
polymath7 2 years ago
@polymath7 No, you are correct, it was Brahms who said so.
clarksc1988 1 year ago
@polymath7 Yeah that was Brahms and hey, what composer wouldn't be worried that they would compared to Beethoven.
dredeye 1 year ago
@dredeye
Yes, Beethoven is a collossus,
And, in terms of sheer inventiveness, it seems to me he straddles the harbor alone. Absolutely no composer before or since has so fundamentally, so profoundly, transformed what came immediately before him -compare the Eroica to the later symphonies of Hayden.
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 Haydn, not Hayden.
Dodo251 1 year ago
@Dodo251 Yeah, I know, it was a careless mistake. But thanks anyway for the correction.
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 That's all right. I like what you said and I completely agree even though I think all of those 'colossal' composers (Bach, Mozart etc.) at one point or another reached a creative peak in which they alone created something new and groundbreaking just like Beethoven. Only difference is, Beethoven surely made a bigger bang and took music to a completely different plane. We should be very thankful for him and his unrepeatable talent. What a man!
Dodo251 1 year ago
I.
"...all those 'collossal' composers at one poit or another reached a creative peak in which they alone created something new and groundbreaking..."
Certainly. It seems there is little upon which we disagree.
My central point is that no other composer in history seems so radically original, so atonishingly *new*, when viewed in the context of his own time.
Someone (Lenoard Brenstein?) said that Beethoven's Eroica is the biggest single step forward ever taken by any individual...
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 II.
...in the history of music.
As best I can tell this observation is entirely justified.
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 Oh and if you haven't, please search on YouTube Leonard Bernstein's Omnibus videos. Those are various videos from a '50s TV show hosted by Leonard himself. He gives such a great (but brief) insight into Jazz, Bach, Beethoven, modern music, the art of conducting etc. You'll surely like it, I guarantee.
Dodo251 1 year ago
@Dodo251 Thanks a lot for the recommendation, I have enjoyed watching them very much. However, all the videos I have found are fragments; do you know where I can find the complete recording?
lupuspglh 1 year ago
@polymath7 I couldn't agree with you or Leonard more. Beethoven is such an unique composer and from my layman point of view, no one, absolutely no one can reach such a level of musical creativity as he did. I'm not that familiar with music theory but from what I've read and after listening to his most famous works I can surely say that for me, he is the greatest composer of all time. Bernstein would disagree with me, saying that Bach is and I can see his point but somehow, Beethoven is my choice
Dodo251 1 year ago
Just to be clear, were you affirming my attribution of that quote to Bernstein? Because I'm far from certain.
I could say a quite a bit -quite a bit more than anyone would care to hear- about whether I think Bach or Beethoven the greater composer, in which moods I tend to think the one or the other, and why. But this would require a rumination and deliberate choice of words I don't at the moment have time for.
I will indeed do a search for the Omnibus videos. Thanks. :-)
polymath7 1 year ago
@polymath7 Well, I'm not certain that Bernstein said that either but from what I've seen, watching his videos, it could have been him. And by all means, search for those videos. They are true gems on YouTube, gems for all the people who love and appreciate both classical music and this man's gigantic musical knowledge.
Dodo251 1 year ago
@Dodo251 FRANZ LISZT IS THE GREATEST COMPOSER!! FOR ORCHESTRA! AND FOR PIANO! CAN ANYONE OF YOU PROVE ME WRONG??
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp RACHMANINOFF
istickyricei 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp ya this piece
violiner9391 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp -Much easier than you proving yourself to be sane. I love Liszt,but that is a preposterous statement.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
Why is it preposterous? Who is greater than Liszt and Why? How do you tell if one composer is better than another?
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp i believe a composer is great if he/she can reach and pull and emotion from you. all emotions are equal, therefore if a composer tries to evict a feeling, they are considered great. in my opinion.
mycatrox565 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@polymath7
"Someone (Lenoard Brenstein?) said that Beethoven's Eroica is the biggest single step forward ever taken by any individual..."
.
methinksss... that was Armstrong on Armstrong
or was it rather Muhammed (Ali) on Cassius Clay...?
anyway, there is litttle (ifannny) endearing about the hyperbole/superbole/fannning/ etc ;-)
and now, to surpass your (little) sin, we feel inclined to add that Brahms (easily?) outdid his "Übervater"
((not 4getting 2 add midd that V aint no Brenstein !!!))
DeepVoidDenizen 1 year ago
@dredeye John Cage?
ezekieloak 1 year ago
Comment removed
zombievoodoo777 1 year ago
@ezekieloak hahaha you've got to be kidding.
Dodo251 1 year ago
@Dodo251 Yeah, it´s nice to keep a light sense about one´s self here.
ezekieloak 1 year ago
This was pretty much a perfect performance. LOL if only K had signed to Decca so the sound would be perfect.
murraybowles 2 years ago
The great Brahms
violalord1 2 years ago 16
Here is the birth of one's life marching through the journey of life and the music punches him/her and succomb to calmer moments as if to suppose everything will be splendid and lovable and even if it quite so for a long while, really pleasant soothing passage returns to higher tones, maybe falls and hunting opening season and snow fall, how beautiful and cruel. Almost hiding until a more balance period arrives and settles. It is very repetitive to the ear and the end fades away almost unnoticed
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
I was doing manual fanning beside the video because I thought they might get hot while playing this symphony of Brahms.
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
billyguns2, may I ask why you listen to classical music such as Brahms when you write and I quote you:" No sentiment here!" I don't understand.
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
I should rather have said "No sentimental performance by Maestro Klemperer here!" i.e., his performnace is strong, rugged, and grand, not weak and sentimental. Is that clear?
billyguns2 2 years ago 2
billyguns2, wouldn't you agree that this peformance has both and quite well balanced at times. However, Mr Klemperer, does not go to extreme in either way, it is a solemn performance.
Thank you for your reply.
Good day to you
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
Probably the best first symphony of all composers. Maybe with the Mahler n.o 1
codonauta 2 years ago
Sublime!
potassiumchlorate 2 years ago
Excellent
60ECg 2 years ago 2
Stunning! Perfectly conducted and played IMHO.Klemperer was up there among the best Brahms interpreters of the 20 Th. century with greats such as Bruno Walter and Felix Weingartner
Nravo! TY.
paulostroff99 2 years ago
Great that you are uploading now Klemperer, Sinfoniette. One of the best !
CaptainBluebear08 2 years ago
Oh Mann! Was hat KL'empereur mit dem armen Brahms gemacht. Gefällt mir gar nicht. Diese Symphonie vergleichen mit Schuricht oder Szell - da ist weniger Sturheit und mehr Genie drin.
jarrettchris 2 years ago
nice :)
coconutcrabz54 3 years ago