Drain You w/ Butch Vig

[69plus0]

Kurt has an amazing voice.

[waliver15]

Butch Vig- drummer of Garbage

[fuzzshifter]

after kurt heard nevermind he said he DIDN'T like the way it sounded, it was too mainstream and pop for him. thanks for the good and the bad butch.

good for us, bad for kurt.

[coltsuperocean10]

....and all these additions led to Kurt blowing his brains out. Not nice!! Kurt really hated were Nirvana were going after Nevermind was released, he hated the production of the new Nirvana sound!

[joelarge87]

Amazing, but it really didn't need 5 guitar over dubs.

[reece6982]

@19antihero95 your parents fucked in 94!?!?

[NYBuildings]

I love the sound of the guitar @ 3:08.

Damn I really miss grunge music.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE 90's!

[jmtoomey1]

Vig is an amazing producer.

[Spytholareon]

@vleon1012 what the fuck, man?!

[allamericandude15]

@vleon1012 I wish I didn't have to read such a retarded comment.

[TrueGreyt]

He is featured in

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She will be interviewed on SpirituallyRawDOTCOM on Tuesday June 14 10amEST

Thank you Butch Vig for being so inspirational !!!!!!!!!!

[mayo211]

Butch...like a boss!

[Pogogacy]

Not quite sure why everyone who said that this Nevermind was too polished is getting thumbed down; I'm pretty positive Cobain would have agreed with them. I do like Butch Vig as a drummer and a producer, but he does have a tendency to unnecessarily overproduce certain tracks. Case in point, compare Garbage's acoustic version of "Medication" with the album version. His production was fantastic for Siamese Dream and most of Version 2.0, but can be occasionally obtrusive as well.

[nebeto]

Amazing, I got the DVD as a gift from my mother..

[matress1]

that's pretty grungy.......... engineering slang?

[SanctumStudios]

Brilliant, I wonder what Chris's signal chain was.. & also if the bassman & messa where the only two guitar amps used.. & also what this super grunge pedal actually was.. I heard Kurt used a Boss Chorus pedal on the album.. I wonder if this is true also.. I wonder alot of things.

[ritter89]

I can't believe Vig is 55 yrs old. He looks like he's in his early 40s at most. Great producer and drummer

[hool15]

wow..how he created the sound

[MarshmallowCreep]

There was nothing wrong with that first track of Kurt just singing and playing guitar. "Now it's starting to sound like a rock n roll song.." W-ell, I disagree, Butch. But whatever. No amount of over-producing can ruin Kurt's brilliance. Still though, Nevermind is my least favorite Nirvana record because of all this studio fussing.

[Grabbabba]

Such an incredible sound from those 5 guitar tracks! It's so heavy and pure grunge! Forget the vocals bass and drums. I could listen to that riff all day!

[beskepticalways]

haha 3:10

[timberwolves03]

holy shhhhiiiit the basement tracks sound effin crazy, and altogether it's like monstrous

[thisisnotausername]

Vig is so blatant about the way he manipulated Cobain into recording more overdubs than he thought were necessary. It's shameful.

[Commonwealth96]

@thisisnotausername

Kurt wanted Vig to help with the album, because they wanted the Killdozer sound; they held out through several offers to get him. Vig just did what Kurt wanted, even if Kurt himself didn't like it.

[kayamar]

@thisisnotausername It's what every producer in history does, it's how you get albums that the label wants to sell.

[thisisnotausername]

@kayamar

I think the producer should honor the wishes of the artist before the demands of the label. I understand how few producers are willing to do that, though.

[MindstormRecs]

@thisisnotausername That's the producer's job, you wouldn't film a movie without a director, lighting crew, etc lol

[enthnd03]

that mesa boogie.....i'm gonna get it now for sure

[tehzapa]

holy shit

[UtopianAnarchy]

"It's pretty grungy.."

[ollecarlsson]

putting more tracks doesnt create loudness, its acoustics/room, stupid

[Picherhard]

look, he's the devil!!!yellow horns !!!

[SomeOldGirl]

I love how at 2:15 the camera starts to move closer to Butch like its some sort of intervention.

[Shaded07]

@SomeOldGirl There was probably nothing else to show. The Grunge, he described is located from an outboard effects processor either thru a loop or prefered, a "patch." Which is patched into a channel on a mixer.

[masterjasch]

5 guitar tracks o.O ... ha and know we know how producers get get what they want :D

[cristianC164523]

i love this song is't perfect..!

[Camelfisting]

this producer kicks ass!

[RTE101]

hmm i don't hear those double-tracked vocals at all on the album. just sounds like one.

[masterjasch]

@RTE101

you hear it beacause kurt was very good at double tracking, his voices were really similar and still different.. you have to listen really close buddy.

[masterjasch]

@masterjasch

I mean you DON'T hear it...blabla

[OregonCoastGhost]

@RTE101 I agree, I thought when Butch played just the single vocal track on the intro it sounded a lot closer to the album version. Maybe the volume levels weren't matched up as cleanly this time around.

[smashingpumpkin94]

butch vig is a beast

[Mikeus2006]

great classic albums. now hurry the fuck up and make Classic Albums- Faith No More- ANGEL DUST!!!

[TTOMO]

@Mikeus2006 Damn right, these are two of the best albums of all time. Of all time.

[TTOMO]

@Mikeus2006 Damn right, two of the best albums of all time. Of all time. Now FNM needs to tour North America.

[Feuersoulrock]

Man.... This is fucking genious :P i need to do that if I record some songs .....

[PopExpo]

total different record production compared to in utero

[SpartacusFrye]

vig really knows his shit, man.

[dentijera]

wau, cool producer

[heyitsthatguywill]

man I love Butch Vig's work. He seems so calm and knows what he's doing.

[elidamanfoo]

Hey I want a super grunge pedal.

Were can i find one?

[bluesmanjg07]

A really good one I've used is a Boss DS1 Distortion.. Kurt Cobain used it alot... Another and my latest favorite is an MXR Full Bore Metal... It gives you alot more distortion than a ds1 but it isnt too nasty like alot of metal pedals... ProCo Rat is another good one... Hope that helps ya out man

[elidamanfoo]

Thanks.

[VoteforJimJepson]

Butch is cool for doing these videos!! I learned watching these videos! its really cool

[KvSwooo]

LOL butch vig is so laid back, just listen to him "this is the super grunge track, its pretty grungy"

[zedrein18]

It's rumored that he is gay, what a shame if that was true, you know, for his eternal soul and all of that.

[Alexsy82]

interesting chorusing type effect with the double-tracked vocals @ the beginning.

[mkrabc]

lol butch is so sneaky with his excuses :p

[gilbertgodlyddd]

Oh wow, Didn't know Kurt played a mesa. Anyone tell me more specifically what he used?

[zedrein18]

They used that in the studio only. His live rig was more centered around Marshall stuff. It was probably the Dual Rectifier, one of the more popular amps on the scene in that time.

[nbfan]

@zedrein18 lol, heck no. kurt never used a rec, and his live rig was marshall cabs, but no marshall amps.

[zedrein18]

@nbfan Well he was a degenerate, so I wouldn't be surprised if he used solid state stuff.

[nbfan]

@zedrein18 haha he did use solid state amps for bleach and most of the tours surrounding that album. however by the time of the nevermind tour (and just about every concert after that) his touring rig included a mesa tube preamp and some solid state power amps into his marshall backline. and he basically recorded in utero with a distortion pedal into a twin reverb..

[zedrein18]

@nbfan Wow, I guess I need to get a good distortion pedal. I've been playing for along time with my band with just a Epiphone Les Paul and Fender Hot Rod Deville (4x10") I've tried a Boss distortion pedal and didn't dig it...maybe if I could get ahold of a Ibanez Tube Screamer that would be great.

[ciaran3707]

@zedrein18 The choice of pickup for your guitar is just as important as the pedal or the amp. I think Kurt used Dimarzio Super Distortions for a lot of the heavy stuff on Nevermind. At the time there were not very many high-output pickups on the market where as nowadays there are tons. It makes a huge difference.

[VegitoVai90]

lol Supergrunge

[scorchedsound]

I don't recall there being a doubled vocal track for the intro, maybe it wasn't so obviously doubled on the mastered cd version.

[westpsmity]

@scorchedsound I noticed that, the double track is either not there or it's really played down on the final mix.

[bwsmpp]

over-produced

[Manusturbo]

Kurt felt the same way, that's why they went for Steve Albini's production for in Utero.

[XxSDISHARDCORExXx]

Butch Vig

is my cousian

[zakattack467]

hey shaggmeister where did you get these videos? was it an interview?

[TheRealV]

It's from the DVD: Classic Albums: Nevermind. Great DVD, highly recommend.

[SchmooDub]

butch vig... shouldn't have been allowed to touch these fantastic tracks!!! layer layer layer... polish polish polish.. such a shame Steve Albini or Jack Endino didn't get to produce the album... Butch even has the stickers for Pro Tools hot keys on his keyboard...  Butch you ruined these songs!!!

[PointlessPriest]

Steve Albini? Jack Endino? Ross Robinson should have produced that album... and all of them pretty much.

[vincentmack37]

ah your being very petty, butch did an amazing job producing this album.

[Alexsy82]

i particularly love the layers of guitar distortion, and how they all really do build on and compliment and thicken each other.

[shaggmeister]

oh god, youtube has advertised-whored this video

[duielse13]

@shaggmeister

Dude, if youtube ist'n showing any advertising... we had to pay to evenwatch this video... think before you type...

[Zeppelinfan11or12]

a buntch of guitar

[3440186]

the order was first:bleach, nevermind,incesticide,in utero

ASHOLE

[shotgunshawzy]

@3440186

Im listing them in order of their best retard not the order in which they were released.....jeez u must have been conceived by a weak sperm !!

[shotgunshawzy]

Kurt cobain himself didnt like the way the album turned out claiming butch made it too polished, kurt would have preferred it raw.

[AlburquenqueMusic]

Butch Vig did a great job with this album.

[Dabloomz]

The guitar blends made me jizz my pants.

[ThePieIsLie]

I looooove this song so much.

[BiancaBoyC]

Those different guitar sounds blended together beautifully,that was great I love It

[BiancaBoyC]

This was awesome to see It sounds great I love It ! ! ! !

[Fabricioviedo]

why in the hell u guys dont watch the video and enjoy it?

STOP FIGHTING

GOSH

WHO CARES ABOUT WUT HAPPENED?!

JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING MUSIC!

NIRVANA ROCKS :)

[IfIfsandands]

Don't people get het up about silly things?! Many of you are arguing over if there's such a thing as a 'Grunge' pedal or not. who cares?!?!? Vig is describing the sound rather than the make & serial number. Besides, the word 'grunge' wasn't manufactured in the Geffen marketing department. I recall using it before I heard it used 'officially' Enjoy the music. Doesn't Vig have a lovely way of talking about the record? As he says, that record changed his life. I bet he loves those songs.

[NuggetPumpkin]

i'm going to record something with 5 guitar tracks right Fing now

[jdizzze1]

Does anyone know of any other videos like this, showing the recording process?

[tmofee]

this is from the "classic albums" series, there's some good dvds out. metallica's black album, fleetwood mac's rumours, sex pistols nevermind the bollocks, u2's joshua tree. worth a look if you're into music...

[shotgunshawzy]

master of puppets is my classic fav of metallica, the black album is corporate bullturd which made a lot of their earlier fans stop buying their records.

[lowercaseff]

Thats so Sweet im getting a new guitar soon i want that supergrunge pedal. so damn sour.

R.I.P Kurt we all miss you man.........

[665nxtdoortothedevil]

There's no such thing as a supergrunge pedal it's an Electro Harmonix Big Muff.

[MGOTraitor]

no, there was such a thing as a supergunge. cobain only bought it for a joke (and used it here). he ended up throwing it into the crowd at a nirvana concert.

[665nxtdoortothedevil]

I know DOD/Digitech make a grunge pedal, never heard of a supergrunge. Anyways my point was that 'supergrunge' was their goofy name for that guitar track which is clearly a Big Muff.

[665nxtdoortothedevil]

Also.... He threw the grunge pedal into the crowd he never used it to record. It wasn't made til after Nevermind when the word 'grunge' could sell shit. Plus the DOD grunge pedal (which is the pedal you think you're talking about) is a shrill, metallic sounding pedal. The Bassman track is a Boss DS1 or 2 and i'm pretty sure the Mesa track is aswell and the last track is a Big Muff. I could go on but i wont.

[SgtPeperz]

i dont think theres a grunge pedal, just a distortion pedal maybe named grunge.

[JagrrrTV]

@SgtPeperz yeah, it was purple. but it came out as a response to the grunge after this album . about 1994 or 95 they were in every shop.

[eArtrash]

great video

[sale111222333]

its great to see that.thanks for posting...

[siege86]

this is definately one of the best songd ove ever heard. soo atmospheric. i listened to this on a daily basis, it is like my fix for the day. not their best album but my fav song by them without question. i think i already commented this video too lol.

[seether18]

asshole lying to kurt, in utero is so much better

[surfwaxafghani]

yeah because courtney love wrote all of the songs

[FleetofFoxes]

courtney definitely didn't write all of the songs?

[surfwaxafghani]

you all need to take a fucking pill, i was obviously joking.

[MGOTraitor]

too true. ignore that idiot. he doesn't have a fucking clue.

cobain hadn't even MET courtney love at the time that nevermind was recorded.

[pedestrianharmright]

lol shows how much you know

love and cobain first met in 1989 briefly

then 1990, then got close in 1991

met miles before nevermind

[665nxtdoortothedevil]

You seem to like being wrong kid, leave music to musicians and stick to online gaming.

[surfwaxafghani]

you guys are insane, i was saying that she wrote the songs on In Utero, AS A JOKE

[MGOTraitor]

lol shut up

[shotgunshawzy]

1 - in utero

2 - bleach

3 - nevermind

4- incesticide

[colombianrocker]

awesomeeee

[101rsmith]

the flim came out in 2004

[connyluckirby9]

i have this show recorded

[Feedek]

When this film was made ?

[kurtcobainrockgod191]

i think 2008

[cnacios]

no it was 2005

[cnacios]

2005

[jgcooper]

butch vig is a genious

[dumpweed69]

yes. so was kurt. with two geniuses working on the same album, no wonder it sold so well. =D

[Schneider10101]

I suppose he was right 'it didn't sound big enough'. Still sounded good though. :]

[BMGStammer]

its funny b/c when you listen to this song, it doesn't have the double vocal b/c it was probably mixed out

[Voltmx45]

First thing I noticed. And even without the double vocal, it is not the same vocals from the album.

I think Butch did the best job on "Drain You" and "Smells like Teen Spirit", and though not on Nevermind, "Dive".

[shotgunshawzy]

If "dive" was on nevermind it would be one of the better tracks along with "lounge act "

[Voltmx45]

Agree, whole album is amazing.

I would've also like to have seen "I hate myself and want to die" included on In Utero.

[phantomhunter5000]

Butch did an amazing job producing this album let alone this song.I think this is the best song on the record.Great job Butch.

[siege86]

much agreed

[Schneider10101]

But Butch did it so perfect, Kurt hated the album. He wanted to sound less slick, less professional just like Bleach did.

[jackmaster3000]

and in utero was surely more then enough for kurts redemption to that. in utero is definately kurt at his finest.

[siege86]

the dums on this song r sooo fuckin amazin

[phantomhunter5000]

yeah Daves drums and back up vocals on this track are great

[ToaJoe]

The bass levels on In Utero were appauling. Should have been way higher.

[siege86]

so tru

[macalex82]

drain you is my fav nirvana song

[kurtcourtney67]

It was Kurt's favourite song to play live.

[spajacz]

yes, he knew it was one of most amazing songs of his

[phantomhunter5000]

YEs mine too

[kcin1004]

butch vig has my dream job. :(

[Lazewski]

There is so much more than can be released with Nirvana! Alot more home tapes. Plus even stuff from the studio. Like the full studio versions. Even with the mess ups. I'd love to hear them talking and starting kinda off.. It would just give it it's grunge taste even more.

[2n2equals5]

He's fairly hands-on in the studio, that Butch Vig. The polar opposite of Steve Albini. That's why both albums sound so very different and yet still have that distinct Nirvana sound.

[ant0586]

i just wish there was a nevermind raw version, would of been awesome

[HustlinFlo]

Although Nevermind was more pop than what original fans were used to, Nirvana approached him for the sole reason of adding more "bang" to their music.

[psychedelic95]

He ruined Nevermind, all thoes extra layers are unneccicary. The closest to live nirvana you get in the studio the better.

[bleachfan7747]

BS

nevermind is such an awesome album and u hvae to give butch vig so much credit for putting it together so nice

[psychedelic95]

I apreciate that it sounds nice, but it's not what nirvana wanted. I would like to see how nevermind would turn out if they used the same guy as on bleach or or in utero. and I don't think that it is right to lie to kurt about the vocals and everything.

[Stratoblaster7]

Um its more like what kurt wanted. if you listen to like foo fighters and stuff dave deffinetly layers tracks. not putting kurt donw or anything, but jut syaing....

[lazrpo1nt3r]

Then listen to the BBC cut.

If you want live, go listen to live.

[shotgunshawzy]

Yeah even kurt himself thought nevermind was way too polished for his liking.

[Ruudnzi]

Hes a great producer, knows allot about his job.

[rldjsegura]

lies!!!!! i just found out y kurt offed himself. lol jk. but no, that's kinda dirty. messin with kurt's songs so they'd b more "pop"

[gearedtowardssalad]

Shaggmeister, where are you an engineer at? Don't need to tell me the studio if you don't want, city is fine.

[HustlinFlo]

It's crazy to see Drain you dissected.

A glorious orchestra of guitars, indeed.

[rukon1234]

I honestly don't think the vocals were doubled on the album. And people seem to be diagreeing with this but go search the song you'll see that the vocals weren't doubled.

[carlsteen]

He turn the volume level on the doubled track so we can here it more easy

[Jagstang67]

ive searched more than any Nirvana fan on this particular song, Tunage, somebody post something wiht thins wihtout the overdubbing

[grunger81]

where ,wow i have like 9 versions of this song, but with Kurts single voice it sounds awesome!

[Jagstang67]

I may have been a little over drunk. Let me restate that i would have loved to hear this recording with the first first track recording without any dubs. And i have at least 25-30 versions of this song on my comp/ipod, concerts recordings ect. sry if i offended

[shaggmeister]

the doubling in this video is shown to be more obvious so that people can hear the difference clearly. the levels that butch put for each track in 1991 is obviously not the same as he put for this documentary. I own a copy of nevermind, and when compared to the single vocal track that butch shows, the single take is too weak. It is doubled - why would he mention a double track, if he decided not to put it on the final CD?

Advice coming from a Nirvana fan, and recording engineer.

[AnonHateMachine]

it's not doubled on my CD, period. it is obviously doubled on the youtube video, so it would be easier to hear that same thing in HQ right? no it's not doubled. you guys probably don't even have the album.

[streamgen]

haha loved the way he tricked cobain to get a few more tracks

[AhYaOk]

makes engineering look ez, but it aint.. oh no no no.

[tripleA17]

Those mesa boogie's sound amazing

[Detman101]

Wow, thats amazing!

Dm

[meatwad8800]

it is doubled

[AnonHateMachine]

his voice isn't doubled on the cd i have

[Jim2131]

same

[screwyvids1234]

HAHAHA

[fenderonly666]

yes it is, you just cant tell, butch vig is that good, i like steve albini better though(he mixed In Utero)

[AnonHateMachine]

I can easily tell the vocals are doubled in this video. But from my cd, it's definitely not there.