Stances: The Foundation for Internal Force - Part 1

[yizhichanlohan]

oh and infinite knowledge hes not just wong kiew kit is often regarded as one of the greatest kung fu masters alive . in other words if he puts his foot at 45 degrees you should to lol oh btw check out john chang chi power to truelly wonderful

[oscie1]

@yizhichanlohan I feel sorry for all off you who are deluded enough to think that wong kiew kit can actually fight or take a punch.

[yizhichanlohan]

@oscie1 well i can fight, specifically i can fight and have fought using kungfu patterns. even if he was fake as hell if it weren't for his imaginary skill i would not be here today ;). when wong kiew kit explained in his book the complete book of shaolin how to create an iron fist and forceful punches i practiced what it said. punches slow and fast with 5 pound weights striking a punching bag striking the air, punching with pullies and hardening the hand. this training just wont work dont do it

[oscie1]

@yizhichanlohan Ive read all off his books and happen to possess superior knowledge when it comes to developing internal power through qigong and neigong.Wong kiew kits qigong is good for health and for making you feel chi sensations but not for martial arts in my opinion.I can tell just by the way his students move.

[yizhichanlohan]

@oscie1 training with him is very different than owning his books. but if you do own his books surely you can appreciate the profundity of the techniques tactics and force training he ofers in them. practicing it out of his book he freely explains is not the correct method and it would be detremintal to practice it just with the book. but if you have seen a better master dont complain about wong sigung simply point us in the right direction then we can decide for ourselfs :)

[yizhichanlohan]

@oscie1 the warrior monks of today may beat a shaolin monk but i think you simply need to visit the shaolin temple in northern china to see that what they teach is very watered down. if you dont believe that its ok im not bothered by you having a difference of opinion. but ill check the other people you mentioned. sparring is great congratulations to that monk. looking strong in the western sense goes against chikung you may consider reinvestigating shaolin wahnam.

[yizhichanlohan]

@idakinlikes it being harder does not make it kungfu. kungfu means hard work over time but thats not the definition were refering to were refering to chinese martial arts. the shaolin monks dont use there kungfu for fighting the use san da or san shou ive trained with several shaolin monks and they train very hard and are very athletic but so do football players its just not kungfu. training with wong kiew kit would be very much more rewarding since his kungfu predates the hoong family name.

[yizhichanlohan]

they deserve shaolin and they lay claim to a purer shaolin than the temple features. come to mint hill ask my master he was alive during and before the cultural revolution. he was so happy the monks were coming to nc. when he saw them he was so dissapointed because they didnt know quan fa they didnt know fighting they just know kickboxing no kungfu external force but no chi. its nto their fault but bottom line they dont train to fight using kungfu forms and patterns. its not real

[yizhichanlohan]

waibaitui you had mentioneb internal muscle strength being the goal of the horse stance i think you may be mistaken as chi intermingles with muscles bones tendons everything you should try it relaxed you may find inernal (uses chi ) more fulfilling :)

[waibaitui]

My Shaolin Master also gives us horse stance, such as mabu, to endure in a certain time. According to him, this training strengthen external to middle leg muscles. While qi/chi training strengthens internal muscle (muscles that wrap the bones) or close to the bone. Both methods are required and complement one to another.

[infiniteanswers]

Their bow and arrow stance seems to be okay. If you are wondering about the 45 degree angle of the feet, that is probably to protect the groin from a kick. I know some choy li fut masters who actually have their front foot perpendicular (outside of their foot facing the opponent) when in the bow stance to completely block the groin from attacks. You are right though about the balance issue though. A bow-arrow stance is weak against perpendicular attacks.

[simonhaleyboy]

Incorrect level of sung. Wide stance needs slight outward tension, narrow slight inward. He needs much work. Certainly not a 'master'.

[silatyogi]

Great

[dataspa]

I am training in Shaolin Wahnam in Canada. I have not had the good fortune to train directly with Sigung Wong (yet!) but these videos are great to see.

[Bastion83]

Thank you for posting these videos giving insight into a fundemental part of good kung fu(the true skill learned over time not just martial arts) I think it will help my own studies. I respect Sigung Wong very much and have read some of his work. *bows* Xie xie ni.

[Bastion83]

I'm a student of the chinese martial arts(Northern Shaolin, Yang Tai chi Chuan, used to do Kajukenbo with a lot of wing chun in the mix) My Sifu is very strict on Horse Stance training, one of our test being to stand in a horse stance for an hour for the right to test for an orange sash.

[LoneAmerican]

Out of all the martial arts Kung Fu is one of the only ones i can see as an effective defense.Plus its really cool to be able to see vid from Wong Kiew Kit; hard to learn from his books lone.

Great Video!!

[5950231]

Great stuff from a true master! I've read several of Master Wongs' books, it's great to see his movements.

[redtortoise76]

pffft