Remarks by President Brigham Young, made in the Tabernacle,
Great Salt Lake City, March 8, 1863.
Reported by G. D. Watt.
“Shall I tell you the law of god in regard to the African race? If the white man belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain the penalty is death on the spot. This will always be”. Journals of Discourses (10:110) This is hateful and ugly.
"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
Why would a mormon prophet rage against white Christians freeing slaves through the underground railroad? God wanted the slaves freed
John Taylor 3rd Prophet of the Mormon Church concerning the abolitionist “This Greeley is one of their popular characters in the East, and one that supports the stealing of niggers and the underground railroad....he is one of the prominent newspaper editors in the Eastern country, and he is a POOR, MISERABLE CURSE.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, page 119)
"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by bgrace that we are saved, after all we can do.
And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins. (2 Nephi 25:23, 26)
KIM: This is a bit of a challenge as you know. Paul wrote to the Ephesians that we are saved by grace, not works lest we boast, (Ephesians 2:8-9) whereas James reminded the early saints that faith without works was dead. (James 2:18)
Cheshu1 <-- student of Satan and master of lies/distortion; ignorant of Latter-day Saint beliefs; void of any original thought, regurgitates the rants of vulgar vile lies read from anti-Mormon & religious intolerant websites and literature. A coward attacking the members of the only true Church and Gospel of Jesus Christ knowing they are a safe & easy target; the meek who will inherit the earth. Unable to comprehend beyond this life and the infinity of the universe; the blind that will not see.
@Cheshu1 This proves you aren't Christian; Christians believe there is only one God. Your statement verifies you believe there is more than one God. Mormon's know there is only one God. The majority of anti-Mormon activist have exposed themselves as non-Christian as they claim they believe in a different Jesus as well. Non-Mormon "Christians" believe in one of more than 38,000 different religions but The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the one and only true Gospel of Jesus Christ
omiolo still spamming with random multiple posts of fluff. Keep on posting substance over his fluff. It is disrespectful of YouTube rules against spam, of others who post by burying or pushing their posts down while not engaging in conversation.
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -- In the mirror of a humble room in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, Laura Cardenas posted a note with her wish list, little objectives that would motivate her to be better. There the list stared back at her each day, posted on the mirror with tape, handwritten and without mistakes. Its title: "Short-Term and Long-Term Goals."
A church notice reported that for several years thousands of young single adult students have been spiritually benefitted by the Lambda Delta Sigma sorority, Sigma Gamma Chi fraternity, IMA and IWA. The recent decision to dissolve the chapters was due to a proliferation of young single adult wards, the notice stated.
Of the church's 14 million members, more than half live outside the United States, including a large portion in Latin America who have a personal or familial stake in America's immigration debates. From Salt Lake City, Church leaders face the difficult responsibilities of managing a global church, and caring for some members living at the margins of U.S. law. Strict enforcement of U.S. immigration policy has disrupted the Church's internal affairs and upended the lives of some of its members.
Jon Huntsman is fluent in Mandarin not because he was President Obama's ambassador to Beijing, but because he did his LDS mission as a young man in Taiwan. Mitt Romney, meanwhile, did his mission in France, though he is as unlikely to reminisce about that on the campaign trail as he is to extol his family's Mexican roots.
Partly because of the religion's missionary zeal, Mormons as a whole tend to be more worldly than most Americans. Companies needing multilingual workforces often head for Utah; the CIA has long relied on Mormon hires because so many of them are bilingual (in addition to their straight-arrow reputation).
A president (regarded as a prophet), his two counselors, and a body of twelve apostles may lead the LDS Church from its headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah, but they recognize that the Mormon doctrine needs to have a global appeal for the enterprise to flourish.
Based on the scale of its enterprise and its future growth prospects, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) - the official name of the Mormon church - has more in common with a multinational corporation like Coca-Cola or IBM than it does with local evangelical Christian congregations or state-based political activist groups.
THE CHURCH of the Latter-day Saints has habitually been regarded by outsiders as esoteric, cultish, and deeply suspect. Once, Mormons were physically attacked for their beliefs. Now, the religion is treated more respectfully, although still with an edge of condescension. If it is made fun of, as in the Broadway hit "The Book of Mormon,'' that can pass as a sign of acceptance in a culture that depends on the Catholic nun as a comedic staple.
One other quick one that's funny is that I grew up Mormon in Salt Lake City. There's actually an Elvis Book of Mormon. These missionaries actually went to Graceland. Anybody who wanted to talk about God, Elvis would just sit down with them and be like, "Okay, lets do it." So he sat down with these Mormons and some guy actually made a movie that was saying that Elvis had plans to get baptized Mormon and all this stuff.
Mormonism, also called the Latter Day Saint movement, developed in the US in the early 19th century. It relies on the teachings of Joseph Smith, Jr, especially the Book of Mormon, from which the movement gets its name. Mormonism comes from an indisputably Abrahamic religious lineage starting with a divine revelation to Smith, which initated a separation from the various Protestant Christian denominations of the time. (Minorities Initiative For Learning And Partnership)
@Cheshu1 "We can all google "Mountain Meadows Massacre""
what does that have to do with freeing the slaves? Please learn to STAY on the subject at hand. If I am going to help you, we must do it ONE topic at a TIME.
The FAIR website's list of speakers for this year's conference include Newell Bringhurst, who will speak about presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman in "2012 Quest for the Presidency: A Mormon Moment or Mormon Question...Revisited," and Cynthia J. Lange, hwo will talk about the controversial issues of immigration with her presentation, "Borders & Boundaries: The Immigration Fervor that Threatens to Divide Us."
"The FAIR Conference is a great way to get informed," said Alan Trejo, a BYU student majoring in advertising, who attended the conference last year with his dad. "I enjoy the variety of topics and speakers on the conference."
This year's speakers will address wide-ranging topics.
@Cheshu1 "Why would a mormon prophet rage against abolitionist and freeing African slaves?"
LDS were abolitionists, they were NOT extremists though. They did NOT believe in torturing and slaughtering people in order to free the slaves. The prophet Joseph Smith had a the BEST plan to free the slaves (i.e. that would make him an abolitionist). It is DIFFICULT in discussing things with you are sooooo IGNORANT. Why won't you change?
SALT LAKE CITY--A nonprofit group that defends Mormon beliefs to critics on Thursday launched a new organization and website designed to help journalists, political operatives and others better understand the faith.
Gordon said when errors are found, they don't intend to make them all public. Instead, many times they will approach the reporter directly. If that doesn't work, then MDL may post corrections on its website or resort to sending out press releases .
An apostle of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints threw out the ceremonial first pitch at Mormon Night at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, California, on Friday, 22 July 2011.
@Cheshu1 You did NOT address my statements of FACT. Are you incapable of addressing the facts of others? Or are you ONLY allowed to repeat what your ANTImormon handler tells you to repeat?
BYU, the first-year football independent that has been the subject of rumors tying them to the Big 12, could be another potential option. Their willingness, or lack thereof, to move their other sports from the West Coast Conference could be a hindrance, as would the no-games-on-Sunday edict the Mormon school plays under
Frances Munds, a leader of the Arizona suffrage movement, had enlisted Mormon women from throughout the state in the campaign to pass a constitutional amendment giving women the vote. The measure passed overwhelmingly on Nov. 5, 1912.
FALSE. In fact, Joseph Smith made a Black (former slave) the FIRST black man to be in the hierarchy of a NON- black Church. Brigham Young would NOT allow SLAVERY in Salt Lake City. Which is the COMPLETE opposite of the EVANGELICALS.
@Cheshu1 BofM does not talk about coins. WE are almost sure we found BOM cities, that we can't know for sure the original name of the place because lack of inscriptions. No one knows for sure where the Mt. Sinai is. You location of Mt. Sinai is also proposed. Zarahemla is in the central depression of Chiapas. The Near East Bountiful, we know for sure where it is.
As for your excuse for the Exodus, that's not what REAL archaeologists are expecting. See National Geographic on the Exodus please.
Mormon Christians - Mormons believe in Jesus Christ. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of the World. Mormons read both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to learn more about the divine mission of Jesus Christ.
@Cheshu1 "'Why do you not simply explain the lie that is being told"
because EVERY time I do you do the ANTImormon dance and disappear. So your GARBAGE has been disproven MANY MANY times and yet you continue. Why is that?
MEDFORD, Ore. -- Rotary First Harvest has distributed 25,000 pounds of pears, donated by the Medford Pear Orchard, a production project of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to regional food banks and pantries. The pears were taken from cold storage to make room for this year's crop surplus.
A "stake" is similar to a diocese in the Catholic Church. The Newburgh Stake is comprised of about 2,500 members in Dutchess, Ulster, Orange and Sullivan counties.
Scott Ey, president of the Newburgh Stake, was among those who helped make improvements at the home of a handicapped woman in the City of Beacon. He and other volunteers power washed her house and deck and made several interior improvements.
More than 140 area Mormons fanned out across Dutchess County Saturday to help those in need, including handicapped homeowners, battered women, children from broken homes and the American Red Cross.
The members of the Newburgh Stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints participated in a day of service, commemorating the 75th anniversary of the church's welfare program.
The church's welfare program has been heavily involved in providing aid to Japan and this morning members gathered at the New Springville church to assemble hygiene kits for those affected by the recent disasters in that country. Lunch followed.
More than 100 Staten Island church and community members are expected be part of dozens of congregations throughout the New York metro area that are observing the anniversary by serving in their communities.
@huguenot67 LDS read the ENTIRE chapter especially verse 6 of Galatians 1 and then realize why the gospel of Jesus Christ needed to be restored. REJECT the Nicene Creed.
@omiolo According to Luke 21:33 heaven & earth will pass away but the Gospel of Christ will never pass away. Why then would it need to be restored. Gal 1:8 is so strong, the only other thing it could have done is mention moroni by name.
@huguenot67 "the Gospel of Christ will never pass away"
and that is the LDS message, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is on the earth. With the same organization as in the days of old. God's methods are PERFECT and He does NOT need to change them.
Sure... that is why LDS accepted the colors into their congregations and the "main stream christian churches" did not... You ever wonder why there is a southern baptist church?
LDS Church – I respectfully request that you ask this question. Was what Jesus did on earth not enough? On the cross, Jesus said “It is Finished!” What did he mean? What was finished? Was he wrong? Did Jesus need Joseph Smith to come and finish or fix the work he had done? What was finished? - I would say, EVERYTHING that needed to be done was finished by Him. I hope this is received in the same manner that it was sent. If I didn’t love you, I wouldn’t care what you believed.
If someone said they believe SOME LDS doctrine but aren't members, would you let them call themselves LDS? Are Jehova's Witnesses Christians in your opinion? Are they Mormons? The Waco cult? The FLDS? The Church of Christ? The RLDS? They all believe in a God and that Jesus is called his son and use a version of the Bible. Are they LDS? Are they Christian? Some even have his name in their church titles. I say NO. They are NOT folowing the true Christ, and neither is the LDS organization.
@EmBeesWeb ---Nothwithstanding the two main LDS groups, RLDS (now called Church of Christ) and the larger LDS based in Utah there are more than 128 sects of Mormonism...or off shoots, not surprising is that the Mormon organization is ranked top ten list of US cults. (google)
@batterdown---And since the DNA studies point to the fact that they have Asian DNA, and the antropology and biological and liquistical show this to be also matching the data, then how in the heck did they get over here from Asia? They swam? no listen, a better YT Vid to watch is "DNA vs the Book of Mormon" I bet you that you will not be able to answer it.
Once you start to believe one lie you need every other lie to support it, and becomes a house of cards replacing falling cards as it goes. All it take is one breath, one truth and the whole thing falls, such as DNA study, which tells us where the Native American had originated from and conclusively shows how they got here via the Bering strait. Now this more believable than 3 people groups crossing two vast oceans all carrying metal books, merely a redundant theme for a 19th century novel.
@Rypaul5217 Let me get this straight...an uncertain number of people walked, essentially from the far east, across the bearing straits, & for the most part remained nomadic, dropping a few people here & there -- I guess, because they got tired of walking -- & yet others just kept on walking, til all of a sudden-climate I guess-the bulk of them decided to no longer be nomadic, stop & build great civilizations in Central America. Might wanna watch History Channel "Who Really Discovered America"
@batterdown--Clearly there have been a number of major migrations over a 10,000 year time span, so yes it is much more believable after looking at the DNA evidence. The data shows 99.4% that the Na. Amer were NE Asian descent and Russia and Alaska were joined together back then, And tribes as they grow larger they tend to split, and move on to another area. can be traced all over the world, its a fact that groups become liquistically and cultural diverse. So? Do you even have a point?
PROVO -- With a little dose of humor, President Boyd K. Packer, president of the LDS Church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, gave an update on his health as he spoke Saturday to a group of new LDS mission presidents.
"They installed a pacemaker to keep my heart beating," he said with a wry smile. "I quite like that."
A teetotaling Bronx Mormon says he spent two nights in jail after cops stopped him for drinking - a Snapple. Douglas Brown, 41, said he will file a notice of claim Tuesday against the city,
In order to honor community citizens who have made outstanding contributions to the family, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Rockbridge area is sponsoring a Family Values Award. Individuals who combat pornography, advocate for
"17 Miracles" directed by TC Christensen tells the story of the Willie and Martin LDS pioneer handcart companies. Photo courtesy of Excel Entertainment Just ...
I was afraid and knew Freddy Florez was a much stronger boy (and had older brothers who were in a gang). He was known as a fighter and the toughest kid at Woodbury Jr. High. The fear showed in my quivering lip and I distinctly remember the experience.
It reminded me of a moment in eighth grade P.E. when I stood face to face with Freddy Florez. Tempers had flared and we pushed each other. Of course the other boys quickly gathered around and wanted to see a fist fight. I had been in fist fights with every boy in my neighbor (at least once). But this was different. I had a quivering lip.
A few weeks ago I attended church in Las Vegas, Nevada. To my surprise there was an apostle of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints visiting. He said something I will never forget. In speaking of the untold difficulties and distresses many people are facing right now he said: "You hang on, hold on, persevere, and keep a stiff upper lip."
Hundreds of members who once crowded in congregations, called wards, in Sharpstown and Sugar Land will now make their church home in Sienna Plantation, a planned community in Fort Bend County currently dotted with mostly Protestant churches.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the fourth-largest church body in the U.S. -- behind Catholics, Southern Baptists and Methodists - and its numbers are growing in the Houston area, where Mormons will open their newest meetinghouse Saturday.
The story about how the Mormons moved westward in the 1840s is being rekindled in my memories from a movie I saw with my parents in the autumn of 1940. They were challenging times for this religious sect, not being treated kindly and told to "move on."
This week, I'll touch on that part of Mormon history into today's 1,800 Mormon church members in Rochester and throughout the area, including Kasson and Preston.
@omiolo Christianity is monotheistic and monogamous. Mormonism is polytheistic and polygamous. Someone is not Christian. Why then do Mormons ask Christians to accept them as Christians? Mormonism proclaimed all non Mormon sects as "Anathema". Joseph Smiths own description.
@omiolo You are one lost Mormon...Do tell us about the Polytheistic Jews. Not the ones in c. 600BC. We read of them in the Prophets and their being condemned. So, do tell us how and when and where Abraham-Judaism was/is polytheistic. We know Polygamy was practiced. We know it is legal in Israel today. But that is what separates Jesus from Judaism. Josephus said for their immorality the Jews Earned their destruction. You left out ritual animal sacrifice. Something Joe and Co. wanted to practice
@omiolo Your same inability to interpret reality and leads you to believe God is a god who councils with other gods, that polygamy is moral and right and God ordained is the same inability expressed in your silly comment of a "hillbilly accent"> What I have is a California accent, which is to say no accent at all. And just what does a Hillbilly accent sound like, omi, does it sound like an Arkansas accent?
@omiolo I'm right in everything I type. And I use original Mormon sources. Just like when I prove "Adam-God" is basic fundamental Mormonism. I posted that video too, using Mormon sources. The endowment ceremony, it's oaths and it's rituals. Deny it all and I can prove it with Mormon sources.
@majinish Well,m there you go, you have Mormon theology to back you up. Since there are no gods I assume God, you know, the "Creator of Heaven and earth" would judge them indeed. And not lightly. Oh, wait, Mormon god is born. Into a world of pre existing matter. Jewish/Christian God is the Only creator. And he does indeed judge those calling themselves gods. Do you admit "Adam-god" or is that too much? Most Mormons run for the hills on Adam-god..
@IExposeMormonism The quote I gave is in fact Psalms 82:1. That verse is straight out of the Old Testament. I had a feeling you'd react a certain way if the source wasn't given. My theory was right.
@IExposeMormonism @"Do you admit "Adam-god" or is that too much? Most Mormons run for the hills on Adam-god" Unfortunately for you, I'm not like most Mormons. In fact I can back this with the Bible. It shows how badly you critics misinterpret what people like Brigham Young say.
@IExposeMormonism Read 1 Corinthians 15:45-49. It was Brigham who started it and he wasn't referring to the same Adam you are. He's referring to the 2nd Adam who's the Son of God. Take a wild guess as to who the scriptures say the 2nd Adam is. I don't get people like you. All you do is try to talk against Jesus Christ and his church. Yes, you've done that. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is true, there's no getting around that fact.
@majinish I posted CL Tholson, a Mormon, "Adam-god". He will help bring you to light, he uses JSmiths "King Follet discourse" and it's a bit prior to Briggy. ALL of this stuff is from JSmith. "All I do is talk against Jesus Christ and His church". According to Mormonism, Yes, I do. Because Mormon god and Jesus are called polygamist polytheists. There is one God. and Mormon god is no god. You Mormons have apostasized from your Fundamental Doctrines Way faster than those you accuse of Anathema
@IExposeMormonism We believe in the only God the Father and the only Jesus Christ there is. There is one God, not this 3-in-1 4th century-born false trinity idea. We are monotheists while trinitarians are polytheistic. "God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit" That's 3 gods.
@majinish You believe what 2000 years of true Christianity will never believe. Polytheism is your ilk, you "Worship" one man god. a man "perfected" into some god. You Acknowledge zillions of gods. Mormons should stop asking Christians to acknowledge Mormonism as Christian. The 2 are Very far apart."Polygamy and The Origin of Blood Atonement", 1905, Joseph F Smith, (posted) proves it.Even your endowment ceremony is no marriage, "They" 1st separate the man and wife,then bind them to the Hierarchy
@majinish Mormons claim Christianity is in apostasy since c.325AD. Yet Mormons have abandoned Fundamental tenets of Mormonism in 100yrs +/-. I see Mormons deny Adam-God, Blood Atonement, polygamy, polytheism, the tenet that all atoms have spirit, spiritualism in general. Well, you can't have it both ways. Someone is right and someone is wrong. I'm saying Joe is wrong. The Tree of Mormon Life is made of such. And The fruits of Mormonism are The Mountain Meadows Massacre, Morrisite Massacre, etc
@IExposeMormonism That's not when we claim it started but when the whole trinity stuff started that was sure part of the apostasy since that belief goes away from the God of the Bible.
Claiming to be a member of a group doesn't make it so....only an examination of the credentials of that group as compared to your beliefs is the way to decide....
@rpavich Your first statement is actually right. Making a claim to be something doesn't make what you claim to be. Take you for example. You probably claim to be a Christian yet you put other faiths down. That's a good indicator that you're not a real Christian since a Christian is to follow Jesus Christ and Jesus never said to persecute others.
I guess I shouldn't have expected a real deep reply...since it's evident that you haven't read the bible...the bible is replete with commands to reject false teachers and their teachings (such as Joseph Smith)....
@rpavich Yes, I've read the Bible. It says to reject false teachers but it also says to accept Jesus Christ's messengers. Since Jesus is the Son of God and Joseph Smith was a prophet of God that makes Joseph Smith a messenger of Jesus Christ.
@rpavich You mean like when Jesus was accused of teaching contrary to God's teachings? Joseph Smith taught Jesus Christ's teachings.
@"not to mention he was wrong on several occasions but we can discuss that at another time"
You mean the things you have to get from other people, not things you can think of yourself. I've debunked critics many times and to be honest you people are easy to disprove.
No...I mean the obvious....that Mormonism teaches a gospel which is in conflict with Christianity and indeed only in the last 40 years or so has even wanted to be seen as Christian
I'm ex LDS and I know....
So whine and complain that I'm mis representing the church's teaching....I'm not buying it.
@rpavich So far you haven't given your argument. All you've done is say the same thing every critic has said and as usual, your criticism gets knocked down.
@rpavich Pasting quotes doesn't give you an argument or at least not your own. Pasting things and showing you don't know what they're talking about shows you don't even read. You just go along with other anti-'s and say what they say. It's not your argument, it's your groupie's argument which by the way has had a value of 0. I can say what is and isn't true simply because I know the facts, not this one-sided biased nonsense you give. I'm sorry, I mean you copy from others.
"There is nothing figurative about his [Jesus’] paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 742).
@rpavich @"as compared to your beliefs" That's where you go wrong. It has nothing to do with comparing to individual people's beliefs. Being a Christian means to believe in Christ, actually believe what he has taught, and live accordingly. That's what makes us LDS Christians. We believe in Christ and we believe what he taught just as we live according to his teachings. It's Jesus Christ's teachings that we teach. So yes, we are Christians.
You are actually right...what individuals believe is not the subject...we are to compare your churches teaching with scripture....and that's where the epic fail happens.
I would agree that belief is the mechanism of salvation...but which Jesus?
Christian Jesus = God, eternal God, not created.
LDS Jesus = Not God, not eternal, and created exalted man...
@rpavich Perhaps you should read what Jesus said to Mary at the tomb. He didn't yet go to Mary's God or HIS God. God the Father is Jesus' God. He's called our Lord our God because he created the earth but also because he's the Son of the only true God who is God the Father.
@rpavich No thanks. I prefer Biblical Christian doctrine which is what we teach. And the last part of your first statement is another common attack from ignorant critics. You just copy everything everyone else says. No, we don't believe God and Mary did anything. In case you didn't know we believe in the virgin birth. We teach Jesus Christ's teachings of the only Jesus Christ there is.
@rpavich Wrong kid. I know what we believe and I'm also familiar with what critics attempt to use. Jesus' birth was as natural as the birth of any child. That's talking about the birth itself. Jesus came out of Mary's womb just as any child comes out from the mother's womb. I don't have to dodge anything. I state the facts.
Oh....I know that Jesus was born just like any child....that he exited the womb...it's just that Orthodox Christianity doesn't believe that Jesus is the product of a sexual union between Elohim and Mary.
Is that more clear?
Quoting Bruce R. McConkie:
"As far as this life is concerned, [Jesus] was born of Mary and of Elohim...He is the Son of his Father in the same sense that all mortals are the sons and daughters of their fathers." (McConkie, Mortal Messiah, vol. 1, p. 330).
@rpavich The answer is C., neither. Elohim is Hebrew for God. There's nothing to misunderstand about that. You're an ex-member of Jesus Christ's church. I wonder why that is. Perhaps someone hurt your feelings or you were even excommunicated. You're insecure about something. Perhaps you're wondering how strong your relationship with God is and you're worried it might not be as strong as you think.
@rpavich Sure does. Then again you only go to anti- sites so you wouldn't know what the church teaches if the teachings were right in front of your face. Of course you get things wrong even when they are in front of you.
Jesus is God's son...just as natural as I'm my father's son....thank you for illustrating my point about the LDS church believing in a different Jesus.
"When the time came that His first-born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father came Himself and favoured that spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 218).
@rpavich As usual you're incorrect. He's the Son of God just as we're children of our parents but Jesus is not the son of God by sexual relations. Again, go to what Jesus said to Mary. I only told you half of what Jesus said. Goes to show you don't care to look in the Bible. Jesus told Mary he hadn't went to her Father and his Father, her God and his God. Again, we believe in the only Jesus Christ there is.
@rpavich @"Christianity does NOT believe that Jesus is God the Father's son...period end of story"
Ok so right now it's you against pretty much all the scriptures as well as all of Christianity.
@"Elohim had sexual relations to create Jesus"
See what I mean? You can't give your own argument or even your own criticism. You have to use someone elses and in this case a very poor criticism. No we don't teach God had sexual relations and have never taught that. I've went over this.
@rpavich Why do avoid answering as to why you're not a member anymore? Hurt feelings or excommunication?
@"Ex-LDS here....you area either lying or misinformed about Church history"
You're like a broken record. I know, you're not a member of Jesus Christ's church anymore. Again, it's neither. I speak the truth and I know the church's history.
Fighting drug cartels, then counseling couples having trouble in their marriage -- that was a day in the life of an FBI agent who moonlighted as a Mormon bishop. He says it was a call of duty to his country and God.
An extortion case bust turned violent and FBI Agent Mike McPheters fired off a deadly shot.
@Bureyeanne thats what i am saying, Mormonism, islam and Christianity are not the same religion. about the multiple messiahs, the closest thing i have found to that is that muslims believe that god saved jesus from being crucified and put his likeness on another man, who then got crucified. not saying your wrong i just havent been able to found it.
Great Sales Pitch! Too bad, the doctrine is so scary. Section 132 of the D & C... or the "Manifesto" written by Joseph Smith himself. Being in Sales for 12 years though, I can say that this is a Great Sales Video! Good job at selling your product, Mormons!
@BaurakAle7 That would not mean that Jesus Christ is a liar and he does atone for our sins, and Paul has never said anything that lead to damnation. I'm am sorry that your read the scripture different a different light, but you assume to much.
@BaurakAle7 And that is your interpretation of the Bible, though I interpret it differently. Ther is only one God, but there are scriptures that say we will become like God.
@BaurakAle7 salvation to know. Jesus saves mankind by both Grace and works as both were taught by apostles to be equally important for Salvation. As C.S. Lewis put it, Grace and Works are like a pair of scissors and only work when used together and both are of equal importance. Celestial marriage is not spoken of in the Bible directly but marraige in general has always been considered important. Then there is the question of salvation, as almost everyone will be 'saved'.
@BaurakAle7 I believe in the Jesus Christ that to spoken of in the New Testament, and the one prophesied in the Old Testament. I believe in no other Jesus Christ, and no other Savior.
It matters what you mean by that, as I believe we were all the spirit children of heavenly parents. Yet Jesus Christ is the only one that is also the only Son of God by birth and blood. It is considered that God the Father did at one point, but when and if it was the same way as us is unknown and not needed for
@BaurakAle7 No only one of the three is God, the others are not God. So that statement is false, as we do not believe in three Gods. They are seprarate and the are distinct, but only one is considered God. For the other two, one is teh Son of God, the other is the Witness and the Holy Ghost or Spirit.
There has been and always will be one God, even the LDS church does not believe in the Trinity but the Godhead.
@BaurakAle7 You assume too much Baurak, the LDS church has always taught worshiping a single God, the One and only God. the Ethernal Father.
Also, we do have the potential to be like God, and because gods. This is supported by the Bible. Yet we must follow certain steps to reach our greatest potential, and God's ultimate goal for each of us.
I have asserted nothing, and everything i have said it taught in the LDS church and as such have stated nothing false about my church.
@BaurakAle7 That is your option. I am no more on the wrong path then a Catholic or Lutherian. I believe in te God of the Bible, just that I understand the Bible in a different light then you. Nothing I believe is unbiblical.
Mormonism forever departed from the Christian faith when teaching in the belief of a multitude of Gods and that Christ is a created Creature and not God in the flesh Himself. Isiah Chapter 44 makes it crystal clear that there is only one God.
I agree @batterdown that Mormonism and Christianity are totally DIFFERENT! Mormonism is a man made religion from the 1800s with totally different scripture and doctrine. Now they want to say they are Christian?
Think mormans are christians? ask them why they don't have crosses on their meeting buildings(not churches). ask them why they don't wear crosses.
2010jaxon 1 week ago
Mormons are not christians there a cult
jayhawk88z 3 weeks ago
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7wiiskate 1 month ago
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THE LAWS OF GOD RELATIVE TO THE AFRICAN RACE.
Remarks by President Brigham Young, made in the Tabernacle,
Great Salt Lake City, March 8, 1863.
Reported by G. D. Watt.
“Shall I tell you the law of god in regard to the African race? If the white man belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain the penalty is death on the spot. This will always be”. Journals of Discourses (10:110) This is hateful and ugly.
This does not reflect Jesus or His Father
7wiiskate 1 month ago
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"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
Cheshu1 2 months ago
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"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
Cheshu1 2 months ago
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Why would a mormon prophet rage against white Christians freeing slaves through the underground railroad? God wanted the slaves freed
John Taylor 3rd Prophet of the Mormon Church concerning the abolitionist “This Greeley is one of their popular characters in the East, and one that supports the stealing of niggers and the underground railroad....he is one of the prominent newspaper editors in the Eastern country, and he is a POOR, MISERABLE CURSE.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 5, page 119)
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"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
Cheshu1 2 months ago
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"Thursday, 8--Held Mayor's court and tried two negroes for attempting to marry two white women: fined one $25, and the other $5" .(Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, ; History of the Church,6-210 ). What a bigot is the founder of the mormon religion. He does not reflect Jesus Christ in his words or behavior. Read Acts 8 for how the Holy Spirit behaves toward the African.
7wiiskate 1 month ago
A scripture from The Book of Mormon says this:
For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by bgrace that we are saved, after all we can do.
And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins. (2 Nephi 25:23, 26)
omiolo 1 month ago
KAREN: How do you define salvation?
KIM: This is a bit of a challenge as you know. Paul wrote to the Ephesians that we are saved by grace, not works lest we boast, (Ephesians 2:8-9) whereas James reminded the early saints that faith without works was dead. (James 2:18)
omiolo 1 month ago
Cheshu1 <-- student of Satan and master of lies/distortion; ignorant of Latter-day Saint beliefs; void of any original thought, regurgitates the rants of vulgar vile lies read from anti-Mormon & religious intolerant websites and literature. A coward attacking the members of the only true Church and Gospel of Jesus Christ knowing they are a safe & easy target; the meek who will inherit the earth. Unable to comprehend beyond this life and the infinity of the universe; the blind that will not see.
gotyourtongue 1 month ago
@Cheshu1 The "Curse of Cain" was the work of God. Actions speak for louder than words.
gotyourtongue 1 month ago
@Cheshu1 This proves you aren't Christian; Christians believe there is only one God. Your statement verifies you believe there is more than one God. Mormon's know there is only one God. The majority of anti-Mormon activist have exposed themselves as non-Christian as they claim they believe in a different Jesus as well. Non-Mormon "Christians" believe in one of more than 38,000 different religions but The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the one and only true Gospel of Jesus Christ
gotyourtongue 1 month ago
omiolo still spamming with random multiple posts of fluff. Keep on posting substance over his fluff. It is disrespectful of YouTube rules against spam, of others who post by burying or pushing their posts down while not engaging in conversation.
Time2Discern 2 months ago
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -- In the mirror of a humble room in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, Laura Cardenas posted a note with her wish list, little objectives that would motivate her to be better. There the list stared back at her each day, posted on the mirror with tape, handwritten and without mistakes. Its title: "Short-Term and Long-Term Goals."
omiolo 2 months ago
A church notice reported that for several years thousands of young single adult students have been spiritually benefitted by the Lambda Delta Sigma sorority, Sigma Gamma Chi fraternity, IMA and IWA. The recent decision to dissolve the chapters was due to a proliferation of young single adult wards, the notice stated.
omiolo 2 months ago
There were only twelve Apostles that Jesus picked. Can't be any Apostles today. Sorry. They can be Saints, though I doubt it.
Sumytid 2 months ago
here is what the Bible says about Mormons: Galatians 1:6-9
VuhNeSsA21 3 months ago
Of the church's 14 million members, more than half live outside the United States, including a large portion in Latin America who have a personal or familial stake in America's immigration debates. From Salt Lake City, Church leaders face the difficult responsibilities of managing a global church, and caring for some members living at the margins of U.S. law. Strict enforcement of U.S. immigration policy has disrupted the Church's internal affairs and upended the lives of some of its members.
omiolo 4 months ago
Jon Huntsman is fluent in Mandarin not because he was President Obama's ambassador to Beijing, but because he did his LDS mission as a young man in Taiwan. Mitt Romney, meanwhile, did his mission in France, though he is as unlikely to reminisce about that on the campaign trail as he is to extol his family's Mexican roots.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 NO bigotry. You are confusing us with the EVANGELICALS. so REPENT.
omiolo 4 months ago
Partly because of the religion's missionary zeal, Mormons as a whole tend to be more worldly than most Americans. Companies needing multilingual workforces often head for Utah; the CIA has long relied on Mormon hires because so many of them are bilingual (in addition to their straight-arrow reputation).
omiolo 4 months ago
A president (regarded as a prophet), his two counselors, and a body of twelve apostles may lead the LDS Church from its headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah, but they recognize that the Mormon doctrine needs to have a global appeal for the enterprise to flourish.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 Or maybe I do and YOU are confused because I want you to learn to think for YOURSELF??
omiolo 4 months ago
Based on the scale of its enterprise and its future growth prospects, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) - the official name of the Mormon church - has more in common with a multinational corporation like Coca-Cola or IBM than it does with local evangelical Christian congregations or state-based political activist groups.
omiolo 4 months ago
THE CHURCH of the Latter-day Saints has habitually been regarded by outsiders as esoteric, cultish, and deeply suspect. Once, Mormons were physically attacked for their beliefs. Now, the religion is treated more respectfully, although still with an edge of condescension. If it is made fun of, as in the Broadway hit "The Book of Mormon,'' that can pass as a sign of acceptance in a culture that depends on the Catholic nun as a comedic staple.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 STILL waiting for the freeing the SLAVES argument you are dodging. Then I can destroy your other UNinformed arguments on other things.
omiolo 4 months ago
One other quick one that's funny is that I grew up Mormon in Salt Lake City. There's actually an Elvis Book of Mormon. These missionaries actually went to Graceland. Anybody who wanted to talk about God, Elvis would just sit down with them and be like, "Okay, lets do it." So he sat down with these Mormons and some guy actually made a movie that was saying that Elvis had plans to get baptized Mormon and all this stuff.
omiolo 4 months ago
Mormonism, also called the Latter Day Saint movement, developed in the US in the early 19th century. It relies on the teachings of Joseph Smith, Jr, especially the Book of Mormon, from which the movement gets its name. Mormonism comes from an indisputably Abrahamic religious lineage starting with a divine revelation to Smith, which initated a separation from the various Protestant Christian denominations of the time. (Minorities Initiative For Learning And Partnership)
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 "We can all google "Mountain Meadows Massacre""
what does that have to do with freeing the slaves? Please learn to STAY on the subject at hand. If I am going to help you, we must do it ONE topic at a TIME.
omiolo 4 months ago
The FAIR website's list of speakers for this year's conference include Newell Bringhurst, who will speak about presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman in "2012 Quest for the Presidency: A Mormon Moment or Mormon Question...Revisited," and Cynthia J. Lange, hwo will talk about the controversial issues of immigration with her presentation, "Borders & Boundaries: The Immigration Fervor that Threatens to Divide Us."
omiolo 4 months ago
"The FAIR Conference is a great way to get informed," said Alan Trejo, a BYU student majoring in advertising, who attended the conference last year with his dad. "I enjoy the variety of topics and speakers on the conference."
This year's speakers will address wide-ranging topics.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 "Why would a mormon prophet rage against abolitionist and freeing African slaves?"
LDS were abolitionists, they were NOT extremists though. They did NOT believe in torturing and slaughtering people in order to free the slaves. The prophet Joseph Smith had a the BEST plan to free the slaves (i.e. that would make him an abolitionist). It is DIFFICULT in discussing things with you are sooooo IGNORANT. Why won't you change?
omiolo 4 months ago
SALT LAKE CITY--A nonprofit group that defends Mormon beliefs to critics on Thursday launched a new organization and website designed to help journalists, political operatives and others better understand the faith.
omiolo 4 months ago
Group aims to dispel Mormon myths, explain beliefs
By JENNIFER DOBNER Associated Press
omiolo 4 months ago
Gordon said when errors are found, they don't intend to make them all public. Instead, many times they will approach the reporter directly. If that doesn't work, then MDL may post corrections on its website or resort to sending out press releases .
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 "no handler, unless you call Jesus a handler"
From what you post, I think that Jesus Christ will say following to you on the day of Judgment (a day that the wicked like you deny)
Luke 13:27
omiolo 4 months ago
An apostle of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints threw out the ceremonial first pitch at Mormon Night at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, California, on Friday, 22 July 2011.
omiolo 4 months ago
Church Leader Throws Out Ceremonial First Pitch
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 You did NOT address my statements of FACT. Are you incapable of addressing the facts of others? Or are you ONLY allowed to repeat what your ANTImormon handler tells you to repeat?
omiolo 4 months ago
BYU, the first-year football independent that has been the subject of rumors tying them to the Big 12, could be another potential option. Their willingness, or lack thereof, to move their other sports from the West Coast Conference could be a hindrance, as would the no-games-on-Sunday edict the Mormon school plays under
omiolo 4 months ago
Frances Munds, a leader of the Arizona suffrage movement, had enlisted Mormon women from throughout the state in the campaign to pass a constitutional amendment giving women the vote. The measure passed overwhelmingly on Nov. 5, 1912.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 "your bigot prophets"
FALSE. In fact, Joseph Smith made a Black (former slave) the FIRST black man to be in the hierarchy of a NON- black Church. Brigham Young would NOT allow SLAVERY in Salt Lake City. Which is the COMPLETE opposite of the EVANGELICALS.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 BofM does not talk about coins. WE are almost sure we found BOM cities, that we can't know for sure the original name of the place because lack of inscriptions. No one knows for sure where the Mt. Sinai is. You location of Mt. Sinai is also proposed. Zarahemla is in the central depression of Chiapas. The Near East Bountiful, we know for sure where it is.
As for your excuse for the Exodus, that's not what REAL archaeologists are expecting. See National Geographic on the Exodus please.
TheSkepticChristian 4 months ago
Mormon Christians - Mormons believe in Jesus Christ. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of the World. Mormons read both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to learn more about the divine mission of Jesus Christ.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 "'Why do you not simply explain the lie that is being told"
because EVERY time I do you do the ANTImormon dance and disappear. So your GARBAGE has been disproven MANY MANY times and yet you continue. Why is that?
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1 "omiolo wants despirately to hide this!"
HIDE Is the wrong word. I just think that your LIES should NOT get in the way of my TRUTH.
omiolo 4 months ago
MEDFORD, Ore. -- Rotary First Harvest has distributed 25,000 pounds of pears, donated by the Medford Pear Orchard, a production project of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to regional food banks and pantries. The pears were taken from cold storage to make room for this year's crop surplus.
omiolo 4 months ago
Mormon pear orchard in Oregon donates to local food bank
Deseret News
omiolo 4 months ago
A "stake" is similar to a diocese in the Catholic Church. The Newburgh Stake is comprised of about 2,500 members in Dutchess, Ulster, Orange and Sullivan counties.
Scott Ey, president of the Newburgh Stake, was among those who helped make improvements at the home of a handicapped woman in the City of Beacon. He and other volunteers power washed her house and deck and made several interior improvements.
omiolo 4 months ago
More than 140 area Mormons fanned out across Dutchess County Saturday to help those in need, including handicapped homeowners, battered women, children from broken homes and the American Red Cross.
The members of the Newburgh Stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints participated in a day of service, commemorating the 75th anniversary of the church's welfare program.
omiolo 4 months ago
The church's welfare program has been heavily involved in providing aid to Japan and this morning members gathered at the New Springville church to assemble hygiene kits for those affected by the recent disasters in that country. Lunch followed.
omiolo 4 months ago
More than 100 Staten Island church and community members are expected be part of dozens of congregations throughout the New York metro area that are observing the anniversary by serving in their communities.
omiolo 4 months ago
Galatians 1:8
huguenot67 4 months ago
@huguenot67 LDS read the ENTIRE chapter especially verse 6 of Galatians 1 and then realize why the gospel of Jesus Christ needed to be restored. REJECT the Nicene Creed.
omiolo 4 months ago
@omiolo According to Luke 21:33 heaven & earth will pass away but the Gospel of Christ will never pass away. Why then would it need to be restored. Gal 1:8 is so strong, the only other thing it could have done is mention moroni by name.
huguenot67 4 months ago
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@huguenot67 "the Gospel of Christ will never pass away"
and that is the LDS message, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is on the earth. With the same organization as in the days of old. God's methods are PERFECT and He does NOT need to change them.
omiolo 4 months ago
@Cheshu1
Nigger was a respectful term... Please dont comment on things you have no clue on. Same as Christian, it was a mocking term but now is embraced.
Sk8er408 4 months ago
@Cheshu1
Sure... that is why LDS accepted the colors into their congregations and the "main stream christian churches" did not... You ever wonder why there is a southern baptist church?
Sk8er408 4 months ago
LDS Church – I respectfully request that you ask this question. Was what Jesus did on earth not enough? On the cross, Jesus said “It is Finished!” What did he mean? What was finished? Was he wrong? Did Jesus need Joseph Smith to come and finish or fix the work he had done? What was finished? - I would say, EVERYTHING that needed to be done was finished by Him. I hope this is received in the same manner that it was sent. If I didn’t love you, I wouldn’t care what you believed.
Maximus9364 5 months ago
If someone said they believe SOME LDS doctrine but aren't members, would you let them call themselves LDS? Are Jehova's Witnesses Christians in your opinion? Are they Mormons? The Waco cult? The FLDS? The Church of Christ? The RLDS? They all believe in a God and that Jesus is called his son and use a version of the Bible. Are they LDS? Are they Christian? Some even have his name in their church titles. I say NO. They are NOT folowing the true Christ, and neither is the LDS organization.
EmBeesWeb 5 months ago
@EmBeesWeb ---Nothwithstanding the two main LDS groups, RLDS (now called Church of Christ) and the larger LDS based in Utah there are more than 128 sects of Mormonism...or off shoots, not surprising is that the Mormon organization is ranked top ten list of US cults. (google)
Rypaul5217 5 months ago
@batterdown---And since the DNA studies point to the fact that they have Asian DNA, and the antropology and biological and liquistical show this to be also matching the data, then how in the heck did they get over here from Asia? They swam? no listen, a better YT Vid to watch is "DNA vs the Book of Mormon" I bet you that you will not be able to answer it.
Rypaul5217 6 months ago
Once you start to believe one lie you need every other lie to support it, and becomes a house of cards replacing falling cards as it goes. All it take is one breath, one truth and the whole thing falls, such as DNA study, which tells us where the Native American had originated from and conclusively shows how they got here via the Bering strait. Now this more believable than 3 people groups crossing two vast oceans all carrying metal books, merely a redundant theme for a 19th century novel.
Rypaul5217 6 months ago
@Rypaul5217 Let me get this straight...an uncertain number of people walked, essentially from the far east, across the bearing straits, & for the most part remained nomadic, dropping a few people here & there -- I guess, because they got tired of walking -- & yet others just kept on walking, til all of a sudden-climate I guess-the bulk of them decided to no longer be nomadic, stop & build great civilizations in Central America. Might wanna watch History Channel "Who Really Discovered America"
batterdown 6 months ago
@batterdown--Clearly there have been a number of major migrations over a 10,000 year time span, so yes it is much more believable after looking at the DNA evidence. The data shows 99.4% that the Na. Amer were NE Asian descent and Russia and Alaska were joined together back then, And tribes as they grow larger they tend to split, and move on to another area. can be traced all over the world, its a fact that groups become liquistically and cultural diverse. So? Do you even have a point?
Rypaul5217 6 months ago
PROVO -- With a little dose of humor, President Boyd K. Packer, president of the LDS Church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, gave an update on his health as he spoke Saturday to a group of new LDS mission presidents.
"They installed a pacemaker to keep my heart beating," he said with a wry smile. "I quite like that."
omiolo 6 months ago
President Boyd K. Packer gives health update at mission president seminar
Deeret News
omiolo 6 months ago
"As a religion, branding a religion, I can't recall [another one] offhand,"
said Rosanna Fisk, CEO of the Public Relations Society of America in New
York. "What I see in this, however, has similarities of other kinds. It's
quite a testimonial.
omiolo 7 months ago
A teetotaling Bronx Mormon says he spent two nights in jail after cops stopped him for drinking - a Snapple. Douglas Brown, 41, said he will file a notice of claim Tuesday against the city,
omiolo 7 months ago
"Mormons, Mothers and Monsters," joins "The Book of Mormon," as the second musical with the word 'Mormon' in its title.
omiolo 7 months ago
**Harold Camping 'flabbergasted'; rapture a no-show**
strike one up for EVANGELICALS.
omiolo 7 months ago
The difference between Old and New World archaeology
By Michael R. Ash
Mormon Times
omiolo 7 months ago
In order to honor community citizens who have made outstanding contributions to the family, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Rockbridge area is sponsoring a Family Values Award. Individuals who combat pornography, advocate for
omiolo 7 months ago
"17 Miracles" directed by TC Christensen tells the story of the Willie and Martin LDS pioneer handcart companies. Photo courtesy of Excel Entertainment Just ...
omiolo 7 months ago
Handcart pioneer movie treks to theatres on June 3
omiolo 7 months ago
I was afraid and knew Freddy Florez was a much stronger boy (and had older brothers who were in a gang). He was known as a fighter and the toughest kid at Woodbury Jr. High. The fear showed in my quivering lip and I distinctly remember the experience.
omiolo 7 months ago
It reminded me of a moment in eighth grade P.E. when I stood face to face with Freddy Florez. Tempers had flared and we pushed each other. Of course the other boys quickly gathered around and wanted to see a fist fight. I had been in fist fights with every boy in my neighbor (at least once). But this was different. I had a quivering lip.
omiolo 7 months ago
A few weeks ago I attended church in Las Vegas, Nevada. To my surprise there was an apostle of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints visiting. He said something I will never forget. In speaking of the untold difficulties and distresses many people are facing right now he said: "You hang on, hold on, persevere, and keep a stiff upper lip."
What would a quivering lip indicate?
omiolo 7 months ago
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. loved the gospel
gleicykellyable 8 months ago in playlist LDS Videos
The conference will be held at the South Towne Exposition Center,
9575 South State Street, Sandy, Utah 84070.
omiolo 8 months ago
The Foundation for Apologetic Information & Research (FAIR) is
pleased to announce the Thirteenth Annual Mormon Apologetics
Conference, August 4-5, 2011, and for a limited time you can
register at the discounted Early Bird price.
omiolo 8 months ago
Thousands of Mormon Volunteers Lend a Hand in California and Hawaii
omiolo 8 months ago
Church President Thomas S. Monson Rededicates Atlanta Georgia Temple After Renovation
LDS Newsroom
omiolo 8 months ago
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I'd like to offer some tips on how to share the gospel through social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook. . .
omiolo 8 months ago
Hundreds of members who once crowded in congregations, called wards, in Sharpstown and Sugar Land will now make their church home in Sienna Plantation, a planned community in Fort Bend County currently dotted with mostly Protestant churches.
omiolo 8 months ago
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the fourth-largest church body in the U.S. -- behind Catholics, Southern Baptists and Methodists - and its numbers are growing in the Houston area, where Mormons will open their newest meetinghouse Saturday.
omiolo 8 months ago
The story about how the Mormons moved westward in the 1840s is being rekindled in my memories from a movie I saw with my parents in the autumn of 1940. They were challenging times for this religious sect, not being treated kindly and told to "move on."
This week, I'll touch on that part of Mormon history into today's 1,800 Mormon church members in Rochester and throughout the area, including Kasson and Preston.
omiolo 9 months ago
@omiolo Christianity is monotheistic and monogamous. Mormonism is polytheistic and polygamous. Someone is not Christian. Why then do Mormons ask Christians to accept them as Christians? Mormonism proclaimed all non Mormon sects as "Anathema". Joseph Smiths own description.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism "Christianity is monotheistic and monogamous"
Jews and Muslims do NOT view it that way.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo You are one lost Mormon...Do tell us about the Polytheistic Jews. Not the ones in c. 600BC. We read of them in the Prophets and their being condemned. So, do tell us how and when and where Abraham-Judaism was/is polytheistic. We know Polygamy was practiced. We know it is legal in Israel today. But that is what separates Jesus from Judaism. Josephus said for their immorality the Jews Earned their destruction. You left out ritual animal sacrifice. Something Joe and Co. wanted to practice
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism "You are one lost Mormon"
coming from your dysfunctional stand point. I am left with no choice but to take that as a complement.
BTW, I imagine you writing that with your hillbilly accent =)
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo Your same inability to interpret reality and leads you to believe God is a god who councils with other gods, that polygamy is moral and right and God ordained is the same inability expressed in your silly comment of a "hillbilly accent"> What I have is a California accent, which is to say no accent at all. And just what does a Hillbilly accent sound like, omi, does it sound like an Arkansas accent?
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism "God is a god who councils with other gods"
you actually got that right. Capital letters and all. Careful now, you START getting things right and you will have LESS to repent of.
LDS do NOT believe that God is a tyrant. The councils of God are open to His servants, where God presides.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo I'm right in everything I type. And I use original Mormon sources. Just like when I prove "Adam-God" is basic fundamental Mormonism. I posted that video too, using Mormon sources. The endowment ceremony, it's oaths and it's rituals. Deny it all and I can prove it with Mormon sources.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
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@IExposeMormonism "I'm right in everything I type"
LOL
omiolo 8 months ago
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majinish 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism No you are not. You're not even close to being right. So, since you talk about God not being among gods what do you think of this:
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods."
majinish 8 months ago
@majinish Well,m there you go, you have Mormon theology to back you up. Since there are no gods I assume God, you know, the "Creator of Heaven and earth" would judge them indeed. And not lightly. Oh, wait, Mormon god is born. Into a world of pre existing matter. Jewish/Christian God is the Only creator. And he does indeed judge those calling themselves gods. Do you admit "Adam-god" or is that too much? Most Mormons run for the hills on Adam-god..
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism The quote I gave is in fact Psalms 82:1. That verse is straight out of the Old Testament. I had a feeling you'd react a certain way if the source wasn't given. My theory was right.
majinish 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism @"Do you admit "Adam-god" or is that too much? Most Mormons run for the hills on Adam-god" Unfortunately for you, I'm not like most Mormons. In fact I can back this with the Bible. It shows how badly you critics misinterpret what people like Brigham Young say.
majinish 8 months ago
@majinish Brigham Young didn't start Adam-god blasphemy, Joseph Smith started it. Just like he started polygamy, blood atonement. And so on.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism Read 1 Corinthians 15:45-49. It was Brigham who started it and he wasn't referring to the same Adam you are. He's referring to the 2nd Adam who's the Son of God. Take a wild guess as to who the scriptures say the 2nd Adam is. I don't get people like you. All you do is try to talk against Jesus Christ and his church. Yes, you've done that. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is true, there's no getting around that fact.
majinish 8 months ago
@majinish I posted CL Tholson, a Mormon, "Adam-god". He will help bring you to light, he uses JSmiths "King Follet discourse" and it's a bit prior to Briggy. ALL of this stuff is from JSmith. "All I do is talk against Jesus Christ and His church". According to Mormonism, Yes, I do. Because Mormon god and Jesus are called polygamist polytheists. There is one God. and Mormon god is no god. You Mormons have apostasized from your Fundamental Doctrines Way faster than those you accuse of Anathema
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism We believe in the only God the Father and the only Jesus Christ there is. There is one God, not this 3-in-1 4th century-born false trinity idea. We are monotheists while trinitarians are polytheistic. "God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit" That's 3 gods.
majinish 8 months ago
@majinish You believe what 2000 years of true Christianity will never believe. Polytheism is your ilk, you "Worship" one man god. a man "perfected" into some god. You Acknowledge zillions of gods. Mormons should stop asking Christians to acknowledge Mormonism as Christian. The 2 are Very far apart."Polygamy and The Origin of Blood Atonement", 1905, Joseph F Smith, (posted) proves it.Even your endowment ceremony is no marriage, "They" 1st separate the man and wife,then bind them to the Hierarchy
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism We are Christians. You acknowledging that is not important. We are Christians regardless of your ignorance.
majinish 8 months ago
@majinish Mormons claim Christianity is in apostasy since c.325AD. Yet Mormons have abandoned Fundamental tenets of Mormonism in 100yrs +/-. I see Mormons deny Adam-God, Blood Atonement, polygamy, polytheism, the tenet that all atoms have spirit, spiritualism in general. Well, you can't have it both ways. Someone is right and someone is wrong. I'm saying Joe is wrong. The Tree of Mormon Life is made of such. And The fruits of Mormonism are The Mountain Meadows Massacre, Morrisite Massacre, etc
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism That's not when we claim it started but when the whole trinity stuff started that was sure part of the apostasy since that belief goes away from the God of the Bible.
majinish 8 months ago
@majinish
Claiming to be a member of a group doesn't make it so....only an examination of the credentials of that group as compared to your beliefs is the way to decide....
LDS = Christian?
Epic fail....not a chance.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich Your first statement is actually right. Making a claim to be something doesn't make what you claim to be. Take you for example. You probably claim to be a Christian yet you put other faiths down. That's a good indicator that you're not a real Christian since a Christian is to follow Jesus Christ and Jesus never said to persecute others.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
I guess I shouldn't have expected a real deep reply...since it's evident that you haven't read the bible...the bible is replete with commands to reject false teachers and their teachings (such as Joseph Smith)....
Matthew 7 ring any bells?
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich Yes, I've read the Bible. It says to reject false teachers but it also says to accept Jesus Christ's messengers. Since Jesus is the Son of God and Joseph Smith was a prophet of God that makes Joseph Smith a messenger of Jesus Christ.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Lol...."that makes Joseph smith a prophet of god....."
that's a laugh....
Joseph Smith is a false prophet....he taught doctrine in opposition to the word....
that makes him a false prophet...(not to mention he was wrong on several occasions but we can discuss that at another time)
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich You mean like when Jesus was accused of teaching contrary to God's teachings? Joseph Smith taught Jesus Christ's teachings.
@"not to mention he was wrong on several occasions but we can discuss that at another time"
You mean the things you have to get from other people, not things you can think of yourself. I've debunked critics many times and to be honest you people are easy to disprove.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
No...I mean the obvious....that Mormonism teaches a gospel which is in conflict with Christianity and indeed only in the last 40 years or so has even wanted to be seen as Christian
I'm ex LDS and I know....
So whine and complain that I'm mis representing the church's teaching....I'm not buying it.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich So far you haven't given your argument. All you've done is say the same thing every critic has said and as usual, your criticism gets knocked down.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Haven't given my argument?
I've pasted quotes by LDS leaders who taught and teach doctrine contrary to Christianity..
that's all I need to do....you can wail and cry that it's not true but as an ex mormon....I know better.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich Pasting quotes doesn't give you an argument or at least not your own. Pasting things and showing you don't know what they're talking about shows you don't even read. You just go along with other anti-'s and say what they say. It's not your argument, it's your groupie's argument which by the way has had a value of 0. I can say what is and isn't true simply because I know the facts, not this one-sided biased nonsense you give. I'm sorry, I mean you copy from others.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Right...pasting quotes does nothing....
"There is nothing figurative about his [Jesus’] paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 742).
End of story...
Waaa! its not true!! waaaaa
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich And the Bible says Jesus is the begotten son of the Father and begotten means offspring.
@"Waaa! its not true!! waaaaa"
Wow. You really are immature. You went from ignorant to just plain stupidity.
majinish 7 months ago
@rpavich @"as compared to your beliefs" That's where you go wrong. It has nothing to do with comparing to individual people's beliefs. Being a Christian means to believe in Christ, actually believe what he has taught, and live accordingly. That's what makes us LDS Christians. We believe in Christ and we believe what he taught just as we live according to his teachings. It's Jesus Christ's teachings that we teach. So yes, we are Christians.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
You are actually right...what individuals believe is not the subject...we are to compare your churches teaching with scripture....and that's where the epic fail happens.
I would agree that belief is the mechanism of salvation...but which Jesus?
Christian Jesus = God, eternal God, not created.
LDS Jesus = Not God, not eternal, and created exalted man...
Whoops....different Jesus = false faith.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich Perhaps you should read what Jesus said to Mary at the tomb. He didn't yet go to Mary's God or HIS God. God the Father is Jesus' God. He's called our Lord our God because he created the earth but also because he's the Son of the only true God who is God the Father.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Perhaps you should study Orthodox Christian doctrine and realize that Jesus was not the product of a union with an exalted man-god and mary....
Sorry....fail again....no matter how hard you try....LDS theology is still heresy.
Worship a different Jesus...yep....
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich No thanks. I prefer Biblical Christian doctrine which is what we teach. And the last part of your first statement is another common attack from ignorant critics. You just copy everything everyone else says. No, we don't believe God and Mary did anything. In case you didn't know we believe in the virgin birth. We teach Jesus Christ's teachings of the only Jesus Christ there is.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Sorry....LDS belief is that God the Father impregnated Mary....don't try and dodge it and make me cite all your prophet's writings stating so....
I'm ex LDS and this stuff may work with people who don't know...but it doesn't work here.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich Wrong kid. I know what we believe and I'm also familiar with what critics attempt to use. Jesus' birth was as natural as the birth of any child. That's talking about the birth itself. Jesus came out of Mary's womb just as any child comes out from the mother's womb. I don't have to dodge anything. I state the facts.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Oh....I know that Jesus was born just like any child....that he exited the womb...it's just that Orthodox Christianity doesn't believe that Jesus is the product of a sexual union between Elohim and Mary.
Is that more clear?
Quoting Bruce R. McConkie:
"As far as this life is concerned, [Jesus] was born of Mary and of Elohim...He is the Son of his Father in the same sense that all mortals are the sons and daughters of their fathers." (McConkie, Mortal Messiah, vol. 1, p. 330).
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich @"it's just that Orthodox Christianity doesn't believe that Jesus is the product of a sexual union between Elohim and Mary."
And neither does Jesus Christ's church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. And in case you're unaware, Elohim is Hebrew for God.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Actually, the LDS church teaches that "Elohim" is the proper name for God the Father" and that Jehovah" is Jesus' name.....
So either you are very ignorant of LDS theology or you are being deceitful.
I'm fully aware that the LDS church mis-understands the meaning of Elohim.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich The answer is C., neither. Elohim is Hebrew for God. There's nothing to misunderstand about that. You're an ex-member of Jesus Christ's church. I wonder why that is. Perhaps someone hurt your feelings or you were even excommunicated. You're insecure about something. Perhaps you're wondering how strong your relationship with God is and you're worried it might not be as strong as you think.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Lol..Yes...I'm aware that Elohim is the hebrew name for God but the LDS church doesn't teach that.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich Sure does. Then again you only go to anti- sites so you wouldn't know what the church teaches if the teachings were right in front of your face. Of course you get things wrong even when they are in front of you.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Logical fallacy...where the quotes are copied from makes no difference to the truth or falsity of their claims...
Ex LDS here...you are either lying or you are misinformed about church history.
rpavich 7 months ago
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@rpavich You still haven't said why you're an ex-member of Jesus Christ's church. Were your feelings hurt or were you excommunicated?
@"where the quotes are copied from makes no difference to the truth or falsity of their claims"
Except for the fact that you keep using things that have been debunked over and over.
@"Ex LDS here you are either lying or you are misinformed about church history"
Neither. I'm very aware of the church's history.
majinish 7 months ago
@rpavich Yes, Jesus is the Son of God just as we're the children of our parents. No, McConkie wasn't referring to sexual relations.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Well, there you go.
Jesus is God's son...just as natural as I'm my father's son....thank you for illustrating my point about the LDS church believing in a different Jesus.
"When the time came that His first-born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father came Himself and favoured that spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 218).
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich As usual you're incorrect. He's the Son of God just as we're children of our parents but Jesus is not the son of God by sexual relations. Again, go to what Jesus said to Mary. I only told you half of what Jesus said. Goes to show you don't care to look in the Bible. Jesus told Mary he hadn't went to her Father and his Father, her God and his God. Again, we believe in the only Jesus Christ there is.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Once again.....you show that the LDS belief is different than the Orthodox Christian belief....
Christianity does NOT believe that Jesus is God the Father's son...period end of story.
LDS church teaches that he is..and so once again....not Christianity....but heresy.
PS: You might try to sweep it under the rug and I know that modern mormons like to do that but the LDS leadership teaches and taught.....
Elohim had sexual relations to create Jesus...
Cry again that it's not true.
rpavich 7 months ago
@rpavich @"Christianity does NOT believe that Jesus is God the Father's son...period end of story"
Ok so right now it's you against pretty much all the scriptures as well as all of Christianity.
@"Elohim had sexual relations to create Jesus"
See what I mean? You can't give your own argument or even your own criticism. You have to use someone elses and in this case a very poor criticism. No we don't teach God had sexual relations and have never taught that. I've went over this.
majinish 7 months ago
@majinish
Sorry, Swing and a miss....
Ex-LDS here....you area either lying or misinformed about Church history....
rpavich 7 months ago
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@rpavich Why do avoid answering as to why you're not a member anymore? Hurt feelings or excommunication?
@"Ex-LDS here....you area either lying or misinformed about Church history"
You're like a broken record. I know, you're not a member of Jesus Christ's church anymore. Again, it's neither. I speak the truth and I know the church's history.
majinish 7 months ago
Throughout his life, McPheters juggled two identities -- one inside the Mormon temple and the other out in the field.
omiolo 9 months ago
Fighting drug cartels, then counseling couples having trouble in their marriage -- that was a day in the life of an FBI agent who moonlighted as a Mormon bishop. He says it was a call of duty to his country and God.
An extortion case bust turned violent and FBI Agent Mike McPheters fired off a deadly shot.
omiolo 9 months ago
How do magnets work?
Warheart1349 9 months ago
@BaurakAle7 I've already show you where in the bible this is explained.
Bureyeanne 10 months ago
If Mormons are christian, then so are muslims. both religions believe in jesus and both are set apart from Christianity by prophets.
MaCh1N3niqqa 10 months ago
@MaCh1N3niqqa Islam believes that there are multiple Messiahs.
Latter day Saints believe that Jesus is the only Messiah.
It would be wrong to lump either religion together.
Bureyeanne 10 months ago
@Bureyeanne thats what i am saying, Mormonism, islam and Christianity are not the same religion. about the multiple messiahs, the closest thing i have found to that is that muslims believe that god saved jesus from being crucified and put his likeness on another man, who then got crucified. not saying your wrong i just havent been able to found it.
MaCh1N3niqqa 10 months ago
@Bureyeanne THE MORMON MESSIAH IS THE ANTI-CHRIST..........SATANIC MORMONS WILL WORSHIP THE FREEMASON ANTI-CHRIST........
eitoobmiz 9 months ago
@eitoobmiz LDS are so freemasonic that Mormons were not allowed to join the lodge for about 160 years.
Bureyeanne 9 months ago
Great Sales Pitch! Too bad, the doctrine is so scary. Section 132 of the D & C... or the "Manifesto" written by Joseph Smith himself. Being in Sales for 12 years though, I can say that this is a Great Sales Video! Good job at selling your product, Mormons!
amyleoness 10 months ago
@amyleoness Except the church doesn't have enough buyers. World wide the church only gains about 150k a year.
Bureyeanne 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 That would not mean that Jesus Christ is a liar and he does atone for our sins, and Paul has never said anything that lead to damnation. I'm am sorry that your read the scripture different a different light, but you assume to much.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 And that is your interpretation of the Bible, though I interpret it differently. Ther is only one God, but there are scriptures that say we will become like God.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@JonathonWilder MORMONS ARE SATANIST.........HOW WILL YOU BECOME LIKE GOD?
eitoobmiz 9 months ago
@eitoobmiz For you, let us just focus on becoming like an English Professor.
Bureyeanne 9 months ago
@BaurakAle7 salvation to know. Jesus saves mankind by both Grace and works as both were taught by apostles to be equally important for Salvation. As C.S. Lewis put it, Grace and Works are like a pair of scissors and only work when used together and both are of equal importance. Celestial marriage is not spoken of in the Bible directly but marraige in general has always been considered important. Then there is the question of salvation, as almost everyone will be 'saved'.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 Yet to get to the highest kingdom yes you do need to be in a celestail marriage and families can be togther forever.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@JonathonWilder THERE IS NO HIGHEST KINGDOM............MORMONS BELIEVE THE HILARIOUS LIES OF THEIR FATHER SATAN.............
eitoobmiz 9 months ago
@eitoobmiz Satan is able to have children?
Bureyeanne 9 months ago
@BaurakAle7 I believe in the Jesus Christ that to spoken of in the New Testament, and the one prophesied in the Old Testament. I believe in no other Jesus Christ, and no other Savior.
It matters what you mean by that, as I believe we were all the spirit children of heavenly parents. Yet Jesus Christ is the only one that is also the only Son of God by birth and blood. It is considered that God the Father did at one point, but when and if it was the same way as us is unknown and not needed for
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 No only one of the three is God, the others are not God. So that statement is false, as we do not believe in three Gods. They are seprarate and the are distinct, but only one is considered God. For the other two, one is teh Son of God, the other is the Witness and the Holy Ghost or Spirit.
There has been and always will be one God, even the LDS church does not believe in the Trinity but the Godhead.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 You assume too much Baurak, the LDS church has always taught worshiping a single God, the One and only God. the Ethernal Father.
Also, we do have the potential to be like God, and because gods. This is supported by the Bible. Yet we must follow certain steps to reach our greatest potential, and God's ultimate goal for each of us.
I have asserted nothing, and everything i have said it taught in the LDS church and as such have stated nothing false about my church.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
@BaurakAle7 That is your option. I am no more on the wrong path then a Catholic or Lutherian. I believe in te God of the Bible, just that I understand the Bible in a different light then you. Nothing I believe is unbiblical.
JonathonWilder 10 months ago
Mormonism forever departed from the Christian faith when teaching in the belief of a multitude of Gods and that Christ is a created Creature and not God in the flesh Himself. Isiah Chapter 44 makes it crystal clear that there is only one God.
RedSun875 10 months ago
I agree @batterdown that Mormonism and Christianity are totally DIFFERENT! Mormonism is a man made religion from the 1800s with totally different scripture and doctrine. Now they want to say they are Christian?
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti I am mormon. Jesus is my savior. What else is there to say?
runninguru 10 months ago