"wait what the Chinese will do" Yeah right.. the Americans will never succeed in defeating, let alone occupying, China in the first place :p If China decides to go to war we're screwed (we meaning the rest of the world)
USA: You do that. Let me just get my .50-cal HMGs......and my B-52s.....and my Nimitz carriers.....and my hundreds of millions of armed civilians.......
@wasatchkatie1 sure, just ship armed rednecks by the hundreds of thousands to an foriegn country to fight. See how well that works out for you. You forget the chinese citizenry lived through more than 100 years of war during the 19th-20th century, They know how to fight.
Chinese military strategy is "start people's war" at present ,how could USA defeat China unless all of the American peolple want to fight aganst 1.3 billion Chinese.?You don't know the nationalism in China. Though many Chinese people don't like their party, they love their country,unlike the Iraq people who admire USA so much.
@photofansgroup If the Chinese invade the American people have weapons. The Chinese people have no guns to fight against the American military, there relying on their military to do everything which the American people won't.
@009jorge1 Which is why you cant justify US soldiers for shooting at Chinese because they are not armed. You do realize american soldiers show no mercy when they see an afghan/iraqi with a gun right?
@AnjuABCDE No, it depends if the person is asked in Arabic/Pashto to stop and drop the weapon and they do not then they will be shot. They have translators for a reason, when searching house to house they ask do you have any weapons? and if they have the proper papers for the weapons, if they do then their fine if they don't then their arrested.
@009jorge1 Please, you know thats not true, iraqis with gun are shot on site. American (Nato) soldiers dont have time asking you to put your gun down. I remember they have some 3 second rule, 1)define target, 2) should i shot 3) what will be the consequence after i shoot. theres no time dedicated for translation. Plus theres probably 1 translator for every 20 american soldiers.
@009jorge1 China will NOT invade US. but in a hypothetical situation and they did come to America, do you think Americans will put their guns down if the chinese asks in english " if your put ur guns down, we will not shot". No, ur 80mill Americans will not put their gun down, they will probably form a American taliban and called it the American resistance movement. And this will justify Chinese soldier for shooting at "americans with guns".
No worries, China can amass 1.4 billion people if they all pissed in America's direction, America would lose her Superpower status, because all their Wal-mart imports would be washed away in a flood of piss.
@Phead128 If China lost Wal-mart, about 300 million Chinese people would starve to death. They need us as much as we think we need their shit products.
@Phead128 I would love to respond, but i'm just drowning in your cold-hard facts that you presented! I'm also extremely intimidated that you took a university level (poly sci?) course on Globalization in East Asia. Maybe you need to spend more time focusing on English 101. "You are just sheer ignorant retard. You myfriend, are retarded." Lol poor grammar, and you repeated yourself. Besides that, taking a university level course does not make you a master, nor does it even mean you are
@Phead128 knowledgeable of the subject. I too have taken these wonder university level courses that you speak of, but what I learned is not everything you "learn" at the university is accurate to the real world. Your attitude that you are somehow privy to insider knowledge simply because you took a university level course is laughable. Your attitude is what makes people look at the university system (particularly the liberal arts) with skepticism. Back to China. I am well aware of China's
@Phead128 growing middle class, rise out of poverty, etc., etc. But to indirectly suggest China does not need us at this point is just ridiculous. In the future it looks like China will not need our consumer base nearly as much because of their growing wealth.
@009jorge1 Back to my original point, If US invades China (which is more likely than china invades US), they cant justify shooting at regular chinese citizens because regular Chinese citizen don't carry guns unlike some americans do.
@AnjuABCDE Yes we can, ever heard of IED's? or Improvised weapons? Chechen rebels created their own AK-47's and pistols with scrap steel, especially because there's the Norinco factory in China theirs civilians in China who would know how to make their own guns.
@009jorge1 dude, really? Why dont u wipe out the iraqis then. They all have the potential of make an IED. Infact, British can make IED, they also can have their gun factories to teach civilians how to make guns, France can do it too. why don't you just kill everyone on their street, they are all potential bomb makers. Are you really gonna justify killing people that way? I guess China should bomb every american home because the US army could have taught every american on how to make a nuke.
@009jorge1 Dude, just shut the fuck up and don't provoke a war with a mature nuclear powered nation. Try to fuck us up and we will leave you wounded for life.
@Phead128 China would lose if they invaded the U.S., once they step on American soil they're fucked there are about 80 million gun owners in America with a combining total of 258 million guns. So, that means we would have around 258 million armed men, because if a gun owner has more than one gun, they can hand it over to someone else, and gun shops would probably be issuing people weapons
Dude, China can amass an army of unspeakable proportions with 650 million people of available military age, if these people stood on the banks of California, and pissed Eastward, America would be flooded away, washed into the Atlantic ocean.
@Phead128 Impossible, they have no military experience neither is their an insurance that all 650 million have no health problems. China has a high mortality rate and low common age of death, chances are about 50% of those 650 million have medical complications. Also how do they expect to make weapons for those 650 million in a matter of hours? It takes months to build one rifle, all that coupled with no weapons experience would lead to a giant slaughter on the Chinese side
Like I said, they will stand on top of the Great Wall, and piss downwards, and the resulting flood from 650 million military personnel will flood America off her continental plate. Americans don't even have expensive insurance protection against piss floods from half-way across the world. They are literaly fucked.
China has 335 million military age men, and 335 military age women...If they each stood on the Great Wall and pissed downwards, the whole Eurasian land plate will fall off it's continental foundations. hahaa
@Phead128 military age men and women, that does not mean that they are HEALTHY to do so. 80% of those people most likely don't qualify to do anything put small jobs. There's a reason why its not easy to join a military
@JayPull85 the chinese are not inexperienced at war, they've been in a state of constant war and infighting for millenia from dynasty to dynasty and all of which without modern day rules of engagement. Think vietnam. where all that technology and money just resulted in an endless slog against an enemy that won't give up.
So much hate in America. WHY must they budge in and destroy lives? I hate war and the US are the true terrorists, terrorizing the countries that are poorer. Wow, so if your the Big Brother you should know better than to bully your younger siblings right? ....yeah stop the pointless deaths of American troops.
It's nonsence talking about it. If any country, USA, China or Russia would be at high risk and heavy fire they would launch their nuclear arsenal at opponents and that's what is keeping them from attacking each other.
its not going to be an easy war...china is a massive powerful country....i know america is the mightiest in the universe but the chinese r not going to back down from anyone no matter how powerful u are...imagine china turn all of its strength towards military and arm a 300million man army plus new technology and it is still growing....chinas budget is second only to american...new aircraft carriers coming soon...third largest economy in the world...1.3billion people so china will crush the USA.
@mathpianist93 I meant that it would share many of the same characteristics as the 1991 Gulf War, namely being a conventional, largely mechanized war fought by conventional militaries, as opposed ot the 2003 invasion, where most of the Iraqi Army refused to fight and most of the resistance was carried out by the paramilitary Fedayeen Saddam and foreign (mostly Syrian) jihadis
What did I click on? This is insane, any kind of war with China would have to be nuclear. There's no question about it. I wouldn't call war inevitable, but it could be accidental if someone gets the wrong impression and launches a nuke.
@xuci111111 tell that to poland or the jews during ww2. it is justified, not always but it can be. since the cuban missle crises its really not. the US or China/ Russia may kill more or conquer but humanity &the earth would lose. does it really matter now that the US defeated japan? our cultures & ppl share ideas, tech and homelands with each other. life for ppl on earth can be heaven or hell. we create it and we can now totally destroy it. war with china is not inevitable nor do any ppl want it
how have you helped iraq? what democracy? 1.5million iraqis died, their economy is scaterred, majority of the infrastructure is demolished.
and afganistan, 40% of their population is dead... all they just want you people is to leave them alone, but you guys cant do that, hence which is why there is resistance, NOT terrorists, like america!
plus americas got 1000s of bases around the world, to promote peace? or more like enslave the world!
Sickklouse, you are right. I am just wondering how it is possible that when US goes on war you have protests everywhere (the strongest ones in US). But if other countries start wars or start murdering their own people - you can see very few protests and these protests are usually limited to some specific groups of people.
@sickklouse: that was then. US foreign policy during and between the Two World Wars and before 1814 is commendable for being more non-interventionist.
I've read the book and it is not hype. It is a well thought out and a well written assessment of the U.S. relationship with China. Just look at Kosovo - we side with them while Russia and China side with Serbia. This book explains what will happen if the U.S. does not make changes to its policies. Do you people read the paper. The U.S. is in a recession and China is on the rise. There is only so much oil left in the world and its scarcity will result in major conflicts.
I've read the book and it is not hype. It is a well thought out and a well written assessment of the U.S. relationship with China. Just look at Kosovo - we side with them while Russia and China side with Serbia. This book explains what will happen if the U.S. does not make changes to its policies. Do you people read the paper. The U.S. is in a recession and China is on the rise. There is only so much oil left in the world and its scarcity will result in major conflicts.
One of the main reason of the Iraq war is China and Russia. Instead of attacking China, any future conflicts will see U.S. invading oil producing countries.
will war with china be like iraq ? yes, but in this case china wins
porcosdep 1 month ago
"wait what the Chinese will do" Yeah right.. the Americans will never succeed in defeating, let alone occupying, China in the first place :p If China decides to go to war we're screwed (we meaning the rest of the world)
TheStrii 6 months ago
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Yea, it will be like in Iraq. Try it!
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh 7 months ago
China: We will drown you in our blood!
USA: You do that. Let me just get my .50-cal HMGs......and my B-52s.....and my Nimitz carriers.....and my hundreds of millions of armed civilians.......
wasatchkatie1 9 months ago
@wasatchkatie1 sure, just ship armed rednecks by the hundreds of thousands to an foriegn country to fight. See how well that works out for you. You forget the chinese citizenry lived through more than 100 years of war during the 19th-20th century, They know how to fight.
AlternateArtisan 3 weeks ago
this guy is an idiot.
karlhelvede 11 months ago
Chinese military strategy is "start people's war" at present ,how could USA defeat China unless all of the American peolple want to fight aganst 1.3 billion Chinese.?You don't know the nationalism in China. Though many Chinese people don't like their party, they love their country,unlike the Iraq people who admire USA so much.
photofansgroup 1 year ago
@photofansgroup If the Chinese invade the American people have weapons. The Chinese people have no guns to fight against the American military, there relying on their military to do everything which the American people won't.
009jorge1 10 months ago
@009jorge1 Which is why you cant justify US soldiers for shooting at Chinese because they are not armed. You do realize american soldiers show no mercy when they see an afghan/iraqi with a gun right?
AnjuABCDE 8 months ago
@AnjuABCDE No, it depends if the person is asked in Arabic/Pashto to stop and drop the weapon and they do not then they will be shot. They have translators for a reason, when searching house to house they ask do you have any weapons? and if they have the proper papers for the weapons, if they do then their fine if they don't then their arrested.
009jorge1 8 months ago
@009jorge1 Please, you know thats not true, iraqis with gun are shot on site. American (Nato) soldiers dont have time asking you to put your gun down. I remember they have some 3 second rule, 1)define target, 2) should i shot 3) what will be the consequence after i shoot. theres no time dedicated for translation. Plus theres probably 1 translator for every 20 american soldiers.
AnjuABCDE 8 months ago
@009jorge1 China will NOT invade US. but in a hypothetical situation and they did come to America, do you think Americans will put their guns down if the chinese asks in english " if your put ur guns down, we will not shot". No, ur 80mill Americans will not put their gun down, they will probably form a American taliban and called it the American resistance movement. And this will justify Chinese soldier for shooting at "americans with guns".
AnjuABCDE 8 months ago
@AnjuABCDE
No worries, China can amass 1.4 billion people if they all pissed in America's direction, America would lose her Superpower status, because all their Wal-mart imports would be washed away in a flood of piss.
Phead128 7 months ago
@Phead128 If China lost Wal-mart, about 300 million Chinese people would starve to death. They need us as much as we think we need their shit products.
friendlyfire53 6 months ago
@friendlyfire53
I took a university level class on Globalization in East Asia. You are just sheer ignorant retard. You myfriend, are retarded.
Phead128 6 months ago
@Phead128 I would love to respond, but i'm just drowning in your cold-hard facts that you presented! I'm also extremely intimidated that you took a university level (poly sci?) course on Globalization in East Asia. Maybe you need to spend more time focusing on English 101. "You are just sheer ignorant retard. You myfriend, are retarded." Lol poor grammar, and you repeated yourself. Besides that, taking a university level course does not make you a master, nor does it even mean you are
friendlyfire53 6 months ago
@Phead128 knowledgeable of the subject. I too have taken these wonder university level courses that you speak of, but what I learned is not everything you "learn" at the university is accurate to the real world. Your attitude that you are somehow privy to insider knowledge simply because you took a university level course is laughable. Your attitude is what makes people look at the university system (particularly the liberal arts) with skepticism. Back to China. I am well aware of China's
friendlyfire53 6 months ago
@Phead128 growing middle class, rise out of poverty, etc., etc. But to indirectly suggest China does not need us at this point is just ridiculous. In the future it looks like China will not need our consumer base nearly as much because of their growing wealth.
friendlyfire53 6 months ago
@009jorge1 Back to my original point, If US invades China (which is more likely than china invades US), they cant justify shooting at regular chinese citizens because regular Chinese citizen don't carry guns unlike some americans do.
AnjuABCDE 8 months ago
@AnjuABCDE Yes we can, ever heard of IED's? or Improvised weapons? Chechen rebels created their own AK-47's and pistols with scrap steel, especially because there's the Norinco factory in China theirs civilians in China who would know how to make their own guns.
009jorge1 8 months ago
@009jorge1 dude, really? Why dont u wipe out the iraqis then. They all have the potential of make an IED. Infact, British can make IED, they also can have their gun factories to teach civilians how to make guns, France can do it too. why don't you just kill everyone on their street, they are all potential bomb makers. Are you really gonna justify killing people that way? I guess China should bomb every american home because the US army could have taught every american on how to make a nuke.
AnjuABCDE 8 months ago
@AnjuABCDE Did I say every Chinese person? I said the ones intent on doing harm
009jorge1 7 months ago
@009jorge1 Dude, just shut the fuck up and don't provoke a war with a mature nuclear powered nation. Try to fuck us up and we will leave you wounded for life.
AnjuABCDE 7 months ago
@photofansgroup
1.) Not all the 1.3 billion people in China are fit for military service. (Males between ages 18-35)
2.) Numbers mean nothing in modern warfare because of technology. (A 10,000 man Chinese infantry Division could be destroyed in 10 min by a B-52)
JayPull85 9 months ago
@JayPull85
Well, US, despite superior technology, superior firepower, and twenty four (24) allied nations, couldn't defeat China in the Korean War.
Yep, just proved you wrong.
Phead128 9 months ago
@Phead128 China would lose if they invaded the U.S., once they step on American soil they're fucked there are about 80 million gun owners in America with a combining total of 258 million guns. So, that means we would have around 258 million armed men, because if a gun owner has more than one gun, they can hand it over to someone else, and gun shops would probably be issuing people weapons
009jorge1 8 months ago
@009jorge1
Dude, China can amass an army of unspeakable proportions with 650 million people of available military age, if these people stood on the banks of California, and pissed Eastward, America would be flooded away, washed into the Atlantic ocean.
Phead128 8 months ago
@Phead128 Impossible, they have no military experience neither is their an insurance that all 650 million have no health problems. China has a high mortality rate and low common age of death, chances are about 50% of those 650 million have medical complications. Also how do they expect to make weapons for those 650 million in a matter of hours? It takes months to build one rifle, all that coupled with no weapons experience would lead to a giant slaughter on the Chinese side
009jorge1 8 months ago
@009jorge1
Like I said, they will stand on top of the Great Wall, and piss downwards, and the resulting flood from 650 million military personnel will flood America off her continental plate. Americans don't even have expensive insurance protection against piss floods from half-way across the world. They are literaly fucked.
Phead128 8 months ago
@Phead128 China a has one million soldiers
009jorge1 8 months ago
@009jorge1
China has 335 million military age men, and 335 military age women...If they each stood on the Great Wall and pissed downwards, the whole Eurasian land plate will fall off it's continental foundations. hahaa
Phead128 8 months ago
@Phead128 military age men and women, that does not mean that they are HEALTHY to do so. 80% of those people most likely don't qualify to do anything put small jobs. There's a reason why its not easy to join a military
009jorge1 8 months ago
@009jorge1
Those numbers are actually ones fit for service, I already minus the "unfit for service" which is like ten (10) Californias worth of population.
Phead128 8 months ago
@Phead128 Where are you getting these number from? please send me a link to all your sources to my inbox. (wikipedia and sites like that don't count)
009jorge1 7 months ago
@009jorge1
Oh, CIA world fact book, military section,
Phead128 7 months ago
@JayPull85 the chinese are not inexperienced at war, they've been in a state of constant war and infighting for millenia from dynasty to dynasty and all of which without modern day rules of engagement. Think vietnam. where all that technology and money just resulted in an endless slog against an enemy that won't give up.
AlternateArtisan 3 weeks ago
So much hate in America. WHY must they budge in and destroy lives? I hate war and the US are the true terrorists, terrorizing the countries that are poorer. Wow, so if your the Big Brother you should know better than to bully your younger siblings right? ....yeah stop the pointless deaths of American troops.
eclipsesui 1 year ago
@eclipsesui Like it or not, war and peace is the equilibrium of a human being. Deny one, you deny reality.
Just4Th3Lulz 1 year ago
It's nonsence talking about it. If any country, USA, China or Russia would be at high risk and heavy fire they would launch their nuclear arsenal at opponents and that's what is keeping them from attacking each other.
Damjan007 1 year ago
its not going to be an easy war...china is a massive powerful country....i know america is the mightiest in the universe but the chinese r not going to back down from anyone no matter how powerful u are...imagine china turn all of its strength towards military and arm a 300million man army plus new technology and it is still growing....chinas budget is second only to american...new aircraft carriers coming soon...third largest economy in the world...1.3billion people so china will crush the USA.
Tofi684 1 year ago
Yes, a war with China would be like the war with Iraq, however, it would be more like the 1991 war rather than the 2003 one.
frtyuj 2 years ago
@frtyuj: you are lacking in wisdom in thinking that a US-led war on Chinese soil would be as effortless as the 1991 Gulf War. dream on.
mathpianist93 1 year ago
@mathpianist93 I meant that it would share many of the same characteristics as the 1991 Gulf War, namely being a conventional, largely mechanized war fought by conventional militaries, as opposed ot the 2003 invasion, where most of the Iraqi Army refused to fight and most of the resistance was carried out by the paramilitary Fedayeen Saddam and foreign (mostly Syrian) jihadis
frtyuj 1 year ago
Afghanistan war is much tougher than Iraq per US generals. Iran would be a tremendous struggle.
China would stomp everybody into dust.
BornCitizen 2 years ago
What did I click on? This is insane, any kind of war with China would have to be nuclear. There's no question about it. I wouldn't call war inevitable, but it could be accidental if someone gets the wrong impression and launches a nuke.
killcow2 3 years ago
didn't cooperate??
hahaha LMAO
onegoodman66 3 years ago
"The Iraq people didn't cooperate"?!
They didn't even want the US troops destroying their homeland in the first place!
Whatever excuses the US government comes up with (peace keeping, democracy, WMDs.....) WAR ISN'T JUSTIFIED
xuci111111 3 years ago 14
@xuci111111 tell that to poland or the jews during ww2. it is justified, not always but it can be. since the cuban missle crises its really not. the US or China/ Russia may kill more or conquer but humanity &the earth would lose. does it really matter now that the US defeated japan? our cultures & ppl share ideas, tech and homelands with each other. life for ppl on earth can be heaven or hell. we create it and we can now totally destroy it. war with china is not inevitable nor do any ppl want it
pat442389 1 year ago
usa are known murderers
stk008 3 years ago 19
See Tienamann Square and include China too.
known murderers? We helped China in WW2 so dont you forget how we helped the world from the axis powers selflessly.
sickklouse 2 years ago
how have you helped iraq? what democracy? 1.5million iraqis died, their economy is scaterred, majority of the infrastructure is demolished.
and afganistan, 40% of their population is dead... all they just want you people is to leave them alone, but you guys cant do that, hence which is why there is resistance, NOT terrorists, like america!
plus americas got 1000s of bases around the world, to promote peace? or more like enslave the world!
and stealing oil!
stk008 2 years ago
That would be the ROC not the Chinese Today. Know the difference.
HeartBreak1x 2 years ago
you fight for yourself
harrikelm 2 years ago
Sickklouse, you are right. I am just wondering how it is possible that when US goes on war you have protests everywhere (the strongest ones in US). But if other countries start wars or start murdering their own people - you can see very few protests and these protests are usually limited to some specific groups of people.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@sickklouse: that was then. US foreign policy during and between the Two World Wars and before 1814 is commendable for being more non-interventionist.
mathpianist93 1 year ago
yes and their ex-cult leader is wanted in many muslim countries
kevz2008 2 years ago
so sad, humans not learning to work together to solve a problem. So much for learning their lessons from many conflicts in history.
Fighting over a resource that'll be useless when we're all dead.
momoisdrug 3 years ago
I've read the book and it is not hype. It is a well thought out and a well written assessment of the U.S. relationship with China. Just look at Kosovo - we side with them while Russia and China side with Serbia. This book explains what will happen if the U.S. does not make changes to its policies. Do you people read the paper. The U.S. is in a recession and China is on the rise. There is only so much oil left in the world and its scarcity will result in major conflicts.
VillanovaSam 4 years ago
I've read the book and it is not hype. It is a well thought out and a well written assessment of the U.S. relationship with China. Just look at Kosovo - we side with them while Russia and China side with Serbia. This book explains what will happen if the U.S. does not make changes to its policies. Do you people read the paper. The U.S. is in a recession and China is on the rise. There is only so much oil left in the world and its scarcity will result in major conflicts.
VillanovaSam 4 years ago
One of the main reason of the Iraq war is China and Russia. Instead of attacking China, any future conflicts will see U.S. invading oil producing countries.
OntarioN8R 4 years ago