I was skeptical when I saw it (it's tiring to see failure so glorified everywhere), but the video was really good. I just don't like the word "failure". If it's an experiment, if it's to learn, it's not a failure!
I watched this in Spanish (we were afraid of making errors our first day) and ended up with a new years resolution: Don't be afraid to fail! It's probably one of the hardest fears to overcome but it's worth a shot. Thank you :)
Well when I have received praise from people on my artwork or skill I've always told me that my God had blessed me and d this skill is not mine and it can be lost anytime. I also tell people that i worked hard for this skill and after being out of college because i failed to move on I kept on that same path but made changes to how i could get to my goal
Derek, This is a great video for anyone starting a news business to watch, and also for experienced entrepreneurs who have begun "coasting" instead of continuing to grow. Thanks for creating and sharing this.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
The story about the clay pots reminds me of a chapter in Anne Lamott's "Bird by Bird". The chapter is called "Shitty First Draft". Well worth reading.
I have used this strategy to ace many tests. Before the test all I do is a ton of practice problems, I make mistakes, then learn what I did wrong and redo the problem correctly. The problem is most students are not taught a learning technology of how to deal with and view mistakes. Unfortunately most fall into the trap of believing mistakes are bad and should be avoided.
I've heard about the praising children for effort rather than for..no reason. I think it's a very important aspect that many people overlook. I'm struggling to develop my illustration skills, and while many common people around me tell me that i have talent, any artistic person that went through this journey would say that i need to study more and work constantly. Bottom line, praise the internet. :) Without it i would have been stuck in a closed circle of close minded people.
Fantastic. I was never fascinated by the success of others. But their failures and challenges on their roads to success. I knew I had to fail to success. THere is a saying: "Failure is the mother of all success". In my younger days, I used this to comfort myself in self-pity mode. Now, I know its true meaning.
I got a slightly subtler problem for you, Mr Sivers.
Just yesterday, I was informed (after 1.5 years of review) of mixed results on a paper I submitted for publication in a peer-reviewed math journal. 3 referees:
Have I failed or not? I'd have a preferred a clear unanimous YES or NO from all 3. It feels like a hollow "victory" because now things will just drag out.
@nahaymath A unanimous rejection would have meant I could simply start all over from a clean state and prove even stronger theorems from the ground up, rather than having to worry about chopping to ribbons what I already submitted and worrying whether I'm changing too much for them, requiring them to read all new proofs.
@EightAlek I'm curious to your logic here. You could be painting your own art and say "I'm EightAlek, I can do better!" and make changes, and this would be a great example of you showing the growth mindset.
Intelligence only effects learning curve,not starting point.And there is always a plateau about a subject.
Lets say,fischer reached his plateau after playing for 10 years.You can always do the same thing by playing for 12-14 years. Intelligence doesnt affect much.You can read some neuroscientific papers about that.
The thing that matters is how you study,focus and learn.
I dont know if Derek knows anything about neuroscience,but neuroscentific data supports his point.
So let's say two people start playing a game at the same time. Both start out at the same skill level and both put in the same amount of work to get good at it. One person gets better at the game at, let's say, 10 times the rate of the other person. Wouldn't that almost prove that some people are innately better than others at certain things? What about people who are prodigies at music, or math, or something else? I'm hearing a lot of pretty words but I'm not seeing enough statistical data.
@sprungtil I like your example. I think the logic here is not that the good person is not naturally better, because it is clear that he/she is. It is that the "bad" person will always remain bad because they don't have that naturally-given talent. The point trying to be conveyed is that while some people are inately good at things, it does not mean those who are not are unable to reach that same level of ability simply because their starting point is a lot further away.
@sprungtil I see what you're saying but I find that person B "the one that's not getting that good" is the one that has the fixed mindset, where as person A has the growth mindset and just enjoys find new way to become better.
Blah blah blah...thanks for your pedagogical ideas, DS, but they don't even qualify as theories, which have to be proven NOT ONLY to be consistent with observation,
but to be the best among ALL POSSIBLE other hypotheses. And, even if proven to be true, the theory need not be relevant or important compared to many other competing forces (which themselves have to be proven theories), which are based upon the fewest possible axioms (e.g. 4 fundamental forces).
Load of BS. Tell your BS crap about "need to fail" to those who are unlucky enough - through no fault of their own, since nobody has control of a judge or jury - to lose a criminal trial and is held hostage in prison.
Being convicted of a crime proves absolutely nothing about truth or reality, and even less about the nature of the convict.
There are still fanatics who deny the proven fact of manmade global warming,
yet believe BS that being a criminal makes one a "bad" person.
@mphello If it's not under his control, than the convicted person isn't failing. Rather, the judge and jury failed. Sivers is talking about things that ARE under your control.
@mphello if you do something against the law, yeah, maybe you didn't want to, or you might not be a truly bad person, but if you break the law, you break the law. Doing so you get punishments. That's just how it is.
Would it be possible to add subtitles to your videos? I know it's hard work, but those with with hearing disabilities would really appreciate it. I loved the Picasso reference. My mom works in a museum that did big Picasso exhibition. I'd love to show this video to her but she has trouble with her hearing. Please consider the subtitles and keep doing the awesome work. You have worked hard with your blog and videos. Keep learning and growing.
How ironic! Today I was doing a simple video series on using a product to make my car headlights clear again,and at the end of the last video I listed the mistakes I made so that others could learn from them!
I did not feel like I failed,but rather that my mistakes could help others do better!
Not only did I learn from MY mistakes,but the mistakes in the instructions as well!
You really opened my mind with this. Especially the mindset part since I realise I've been stuck in a fixed mindset all my life. Now that my studies hit a hard patch and I have to re-do many courses, I feel like I'm a total loser because I used to be so smart but suddenly hit a hard patch. With your tips I might be able to change that and finish my studies like I really want.
Thank you for this. Your voice is also so smoothing it relaxed me all the way through this video.
The title of the video is a bit misleading because some might take it litteral,you dont NEED to fail but if you do fail trying domething new or something you're bad at, its OKAY because you learn alot from it.
I dont think you said chase failure because anyone who tries something 'beyond himself' will eventually encounter it.
Incredible video Derek, thank you so much for posting. I purchased your book "Anything You Want" today on iTunes and I very much look forward to diving into it. Keep it up my friend
Derek, thank you so much for this video... this really has motivated me as musician and future composer to keep on failing! Thank you for the inspiration and wisdom you shared.
(continued, sorry it's so long) Re:clay class - I'd rather get a lesser mark trying to make a great pot, than have a massive pile of unlooked-at pots for an easy A. I'd be more upset with that lesser mark, but I'd keep trying, and making more pots, until I got it right, (assuming I ever could and had unlimited clay...) Sorry Derek, but I didn't think that story was a good example, it practically contradicts your point. As @visualplant points out, ultimately, we are striving to succeed.
@sockpuppety, I think you missed the point. I would have cried for not getting to the mass class.
You see TRYING to make a great pot doesn't teach you much about MAKING a great pot. The first item I threw kept shrinking, until I ended up with a tiny plate suitable for soy sauce dip or used tea bag. My fourth effort resulted in a cup big enough for tea. To be able to make a pot you must learn to make a pot... and it's only if you know how to make a pot, you can make a good pot.
@Ketutar, My own point was I'd make MANY pots regardless, but if I'm to be marked, I'd rather for my quality than my quanity. (Ultimately I'm not out for marks, I'm out to improve my abilities. My success would be how much I TRIED!) :o) ("Trying" and "making" are synonymous to me.) I'd've failed many MORE times trying to make a perfect pot, and not failed at all making 50 pounds of careless pots. That's why I thought it a poor example the overall premise; learning from failure.
@sockpuppety ...Mind you, I'm assuming unlimited clay for ALL. If the perfect pot side only get enough clay for 1 pot, obviously I'd want to be on the weight side! But if each pays for their own clay; I'm poor so I'd want to be on the 1 pot side, so at least I could keep destroying & reworking it until ready for firing, rather than only make a couple pounds of pots because that's all I could afford and get an F... In that case, better to take my chances with one pot. I'd still want to pass!
(sorry, still babbling & I know overanalyzing) Re: Clay- I know Derek was making a point about those who made many without caring how they did made better stuff than those who made 1 carefully. Yea, but that's obvious; do it more, get better at it. But I want to get GOOD at it (pottery or whatever it is) so my objective will still always be that 1 great pot, and I'll have to make a bazillion pots! But I want to be held accountable for what I do. Failure is worthless without a goal.
@sockpuppety (And don't worry, Derek, I won't tell you my goal! I shall keep it secret from you! Altho I might tell an honest friend who will hold me accountable, and give me encouragement and help each time I fail...) ;o)
I'd have wanted to be on the "1 perfect pot" side of the ceramics class. In reality, what would happen to the quantity group once they hit the desired weight? They'd stop, or even not make pots at all but bricks in a competition to have the biggest pile... (I'm assuming unlimited clay was allowed for both sides.) No matter what, I'd have made MANY pots; think of the ol' "practice makes perfect"; but in the end I would have wanted to be judged for my quality. (to be continued)
The current trend in startup philosophy – "Fail fast and often" – is teaching a young generation of naive entrepreneurs that failure is the destination.
The goal is to succeed. The inevitable reality of striving to succeed includes failing in the process sometimes which is ok as long as you ultimately succeed a few times. If you just keep failing - that's literally what you are instructing people to do here - that ain't good.
the point of this video is that, unless you want to ride a bicycle with side wheels all your life, making an investment in failure, instead of sticking to the easy success, allows you to have a remarkable success later.
of course that involves some risk taking. it's up to you to decide how much you can afford to put at stake.
Anything of importance I've ever designed required me to step away from it after a first draft, ideally so that I could return to it with fresh eyes and see what I'd done wrong. It took me years to realize this shouldn't be thought of as a frustrating delay so much as part of a necessary process of improvement.
WRT parenting, especially young kids, and exercising the "good job!" tick, see also Po Bronson's Nurture Shock (there a video on his site called 'The Myth of Praise'). But it's really great (and important!) to be reminded as an adult.
Also WRT showing people all our mistakes, Anna Quindlen has an essay called "Putting up a Good Front" in her book Living Out Loud.
Great post! Makes me think of why the re-write is so important in songwriting. You never (OK, rarely) get it right on the first try. You need to get it out there to see how people react. If you're not connecting (i.e. failing), you need to bite the bullet and re-write until you nail it!!!
Song writing proves this point to a T. To get good at it you have to write thousands of songs and experience the dogs that can't get up off the page to see what works and doesn't work. So too in investing. The most reliable people are the ones that have seen more than a few market cycles and have made mistakes of all types, their intuition is born of pain, caution, and knowing when to be fearless.
hi derek, the first ten minutes watching your new video, i just thought: superperficial, that’s nothing new, but then, i really could discover two points. first: when i was in art class at school, i was complimented for working hard. thinking i have no talent, i was frustrated, but indeed i tried harder and i became a designer. second: the clay-experiment convinced me: i wasted so much live time with perfection. thanks for your inspiring impulses, from trial and error space ;-)
When I was a kid, the only learning resource I had for programming was a compiler, and no programming manuals. I had no choice but to learn through compiler errors.
As time went by, and as I practiced further, these errors came fewer in numbers.
Now that I'm all grown up, I'm acing all my programming courses at university.
amazing!
aviramord 2 days ago
well you could learn from others failures to.
xobust 4 days ago
I was skeptical when I saw it (it's tiring to see failure so glorified everywhere), but the video was really good. I just don't like the word "failure". If it's an experiment, if it's to learn, it's not a failure!
radexpp 1 week ago
I LOVED IT!
BridgetWillard 4 weeks ago
Outstanding. I'm buying the books he mentions.
ruthexpress 1 month ago
@ruthexpress As am I!
0agust 1 week ago
I watched this in Spanish (we were afraid of making errors our first day) and ended up with a new years resolution: Don't be afraid to fail! It's probably one of the hardest fears to overcome but it's worth a shot. Thank you :)
seximexisFTW 1 month ago
"Parents, pay attention here", nice one !
Very good stuff, I agree and even enjoyed this :-)
Strangeryann 1 month ago 2
Thank you!
Dorsy18 1 month ago
Very interesting. A lot of the points made are covered in Carol S. Dweck's book "Self-Theories"
SuperArseBiscuits 1 month ago
Doing what you know is... Fun?
Wat.
As I don't agree on this fact, I'm just gonna assume that I already know how to teach myself things, dohoho.
lpasepok 2 months ago
Well when I have received praise from people on my artwork or skill I've always told me that my God had blessed me and d this skill is not mine and it can be lost anytime. I also tell people that i worked hard for this skill and after being out of college because i failed to move on I kept on that same path but made changes to how i could get to my goal
KuroCartoonist 2 months ago
this sounds exactly like something from WNYC RadioLab
marktywharton 2 months ago
I am a Proud Procrastinating Perfectionist.
top20modernrock 2 months ago
this video is great, you must have failed a lot while making it!
ConnyPaints 2 months ago
So inspiring . Invites my mind to fly free . Priceless stuff . Can`t wait to check your theory.
vinzalmena 2 months ago
Thank you, Derek.
sparksybrush 2 months ago
Derek, This is a great video for anyone starting a news business to watch, and also for experienced entrepreneurs who have begun "coasting" instead of continuing to grow. Thanks for creating and sharing this.
TheStagingDiva 2 months ago
Very motivating! I've added it to my 'keep watching again n again' playlist! :-)
sagarjauhari 3 months ago
The ceramics class story is awesome :D
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
This really motivated me and opened my mind. I will share it to all my fellow because it is a good video.
Mrjaguar1990 4 months ago
The story about the clay pots reminds me of a chapter in Anne Lamott's "Bird by Bird". The chapter is called "Shitty First Draft". Well worth reading.
HySpeedGames 4 months ago
this explains why I failed to fail these past two years
shodanxx 4 months ago
I have used this strategy to ace many tests. Before the test all I do is a ton of practice problems, I make mistakes, then learn what I did wrong and redo the problem correctly. The problem is most students are not taught a learning technology of how to deal with and view mistakes. Unfortunately most fall into the trap of believing mistakes are bad and should be avoided.
pfeiffer101 4 months ago
I've heard about the praising children for effort rather than for..no reason. I think it's a very important aspect that many people overlook. I'm struggling to develop my illustration skills, and while many common people around me tell me that i have talent, any artistic person that went through this journey would say that i need to study more and work constantly. Bottom line, praise the internet. :) Without it i would have been stuck in a closed circle of close minded people.
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ruginaatgoogle 4 months ago
Failures are the biggest teachers been taught that thing so many times but this just finally hammered it so thank you.
wasimfragger 4 months ago
Fantastic. I was never fascinated by the success of others. But their failures and challenges on their roads to success. I knew I had to fail to success. THere is a saying: "Failure is the mother of all success". In my younger days, I used this to comfort myself in self-pity mode. Now, I know its true meaning.
Mr9SKY 5 months ago
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Mr9SKY 5 months ago
Thank you so much for the video Derek. I watch it for inspiration
sukhvirk150 5 months ago in playlist sukhvirk150's Favorited Videos
Great insight. Thx for the video!
bansheemonger 5 months ago
I got a slightly subtler problem for you, Mr Sivers.
Just yesterday, I was informed (after 1.5 years of review) of mixed results on a paper I submitted for publication in a peer-reviewed math journal. 3 referees:
1+ (recommends acceptance), 1 - (recommends rejection), 1 moderate (recommends acceptance after revision).
Have I failed or not? I'd have a preferred a clear unanimous YES or NO from all 3. It feels like a hollow "victory" because now things will just drag out.
nahaymath 5 months ago
@nahaymath A unanimous rejection would have meant I could simply start all over from a clean state and prove even stronger theorems from the ground up, rather than having to worry about chopping to ribbons what I already submitted and worrying whether I'm changing too much for them, requiring them to read all new proofs.
nahaymath 5 months ago
Famous successful people... yet I recognize none of them.
Are they ninjas?
Fail.
If not... still FAIL.
TrollingWithFlames 5 months ago 2
@TrollingWithFlames
LMAO. EPIC WIN!
PassionsIndemnity 5 months ago
That Picasso painting sucked.
TIKOMIX 5 months ago
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement. We know the drill :P
kuXShortguy 5 months ago
thank you derek, this gave me a lot to think about
sharadbhutoria 5 months ago
Derek,
Just want to say, thank You!
I got some mind set problems bother me for years.
I think i got it clear because of you.
Johnfong1986 5 months ago in playlist 更多由dereksivers提供的影片
Hilarious that he mumbles "I'm Picasso, I can do better". Completely contradicts what he is saying.
EightAlek 5 months ago
@EightAlek I'm curious to your logic here. You could be painting your own art and say "I'm EightAlek, I can do better!" and make changes, and this would be a great example of you showing the growth mindset.
danielktaylor88 5 months ago in playlist danielktaylor88's Favorited Videos
I like the last word so much.. "if you are not failing, you are not trying hard enough"
myprofn 5 months ago
@TianFangXingYue Sorry about that. Copy-pasted some random Chinese from my site. Was putting together the presentation too fast. Embarrased.
dereksivers 6 months ago
great advice....just like warren miller told me in a movie when i was younger
sjaderlund 6 months ago
14 people are failing wrong.
unclefishbits 6 months ago
this is really helpful, thank you.
surdogal 6 months ago
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No different than eating dick in Frozen Throne.
campbpar 6 months ago
@campbpar Interesting attempt to fail at commenting! :-)
dereksivers 6 months ago 55
@dereksivers It always goes straight to my amygdala, sir. Thanks for sharing.
campbpar 6 months ago
@sprungtil
Intelligence only effects learning curve,not starting point.And there is always a plateau about a subject.
Lets say,fischer reached his plateau after playing for 10 years.You can always do the same thing by playing for 12-14 years. Intelligence doesnt affect much.You can read some neuroscientific papers about that.
The thing that matters is how you study,focus and learn.
I dont know if Derek knows anything about neuroscience,but neuroscentific data supports his point.
berkay991967 6 months ago
failing iz ma thing yo!
ABONESR 6 months ago
I'm so glad i watched this.
ChristinaRebecca 6 months ago
So let's say two people start playing a game at the same time. Both start out at the same skill level and both put in the same amount of work to get good at it. One person gets better at the game at, let's say, 10 times the rate of the other person. Wouldn't that almost prove that some people are innately better than others at certain things? What about people who are prodigies at music, or math, or something else? I'm hearing a lot of pretty words but I'm not seeing enough statistical data.
sprungtil 6 months ago
@sprungtil I like your example. I think the logic here is not that the good person is not naturally better, because it is clear that he/she is. It is that the "bad" person will always remain bad because they don't have that naturally-given talent. The point trying to be conveyed is that while some people are inately good at things, it does not mean those who are not are unable to reach that same level of ability simply because their starting point is a lot further away.
danielktaylor88 6 months ago
@sprungtil I see what you're saying but I find that person B "the one that's not getting that good" is the one that has the fixed mindset, where as person A has the growth mindset and just enjoys find new way to become better.
AyoForYayo1990 6 months ago
Thanks bro this was awesome.
aRRoSC2 6 months ago
helped me over a hurdle! Thanks Derek! I'll make sure to fail & learn as much as possible =]
moladude9 6 months ago
i'm 10 seconds in and i feel like my ears are being molested by your voice
Toobmeal 6 months ago 3
@Toobmeal lmao
MrBogfrog 6 months ago
thank you very much for this
sebobty 6 months ago 2
You sound like X on youtube.
JakeDesy 6 months ago
13 people did not allow themselves to fail.
jtflynn 6 months ago
But failing certificate exams is expensive!
ehuman 6 months ago
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TheOcMaster 6 months ago
That was brilliant and insightful. You must have worked really hard to make this video
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Im applying this to starcraft
BOBSTER00001 6 months ago 2
Wow, that was probably the best content on learning I have found the last year. Thx a ton. :)
bamoidaderda 6 months ago 2
he said , 'uh' once!! HE'S NOT A PROFESSIONAL
LastRqss 6 months ago
Thank you so much for sharing, Derek!
flstudiofreak 6 months ago
Hi Derek,
Thank you so much, thanks to you I realised I can start drawing again.
You are changing my life.
WEARESAVIORS 7 months ago 3
Dear Derek -
thank you so much for your enlightening thoughts.
You must be a wise and lucky man indeed.
Please don't stop sharing your inspiration and intelligent points of view!
All the best
Ziggy
Eggzseller 7 months ago
@IvanMarinIvkovich Oh I see
QadeemSamir 7 months ago
Blah blah blah...thanks for your pedagogical ideas, DS, but they don't even qualify as theories, which have to be proven NOT ONLY to be consistent with observation,
but to be the best among ALL POSSIBLE other hypotheses. And, even if proven to be true, the theory need not be relevant or important compared to many other competing forces (which themselves have to be proven theories), which are based upon the fewest possible axioms (e.g. 4 fundamental forces).
mphello 7 months ago
so experiments can't fail?
QadeemSamir 7 months ago
@QadeemSamir
If you do not expect a specific outcome of the experiment, no. That´s what makes it an experiment, you don´t know what´s gonna happen.
If you do, then it´s not an experiment. It´s an attempt.
IvanMarinIvkovich 7 months ago
so good.
C1MM3R1AN 7 months ago
Load of BS. Tell your BS crap about "need to fail" to those who are unlucky enough - through no fault of their own, since nobody has control of a judge or jury - to lose a criminal trial and is held hostage in prison.
Being convicted of a crime proves absolutely nothing about truth or reality, and even less about the nature of the convict.
There are still fanatics who deny the proven fact of manmade global warming,
yet believe BS that being a criminal makes one a "bad" person.
mphello 7 months ago
@mphello If it's not under his control, than the convicted person isn't failing. Rather, the judge and jury failed. Sivers is talking about things that ARE under your control.
obiwan177 7 months ago
@mphello if you do something against the law, yeah, maybe you didn't want to, or you might not be a truly bad person, but if you break the law, you break the law. Doing so you get punishments. That's just how it is.
TangyTangoJuice 6 months ago
@TangyTangoJuice That must mean millions of people allegedly directly killed by Stalin in the former USSR had broken the law.
No, it's NOT "just how it is". Somebody MAKES those laws. So people can fight back and overthrow them.
THAT'S how it is, because that's how it HAS been. Revolutions: Russia (1917), America (1776), Greece (2011).
mphello 6 months ago
I lost The Game.
Benimation 7 months ago
Who are you, Derek Silvers?
haxbox7 7 months ago 2
Would it be possible to add subtitles to your videos? I know it's hard work, but those with with hearing disabilities would really appreciate it. I loved the Picasso reference. My mom works in a museum that did big Picasso exhibition. I'd love to show this video to her but she has trouble with her hearing. Please consider the subtitles and keep doing the awesome work. You have worked hard with your blog and videos. Keep learning and growing.
Piitsi 7 months ago 4
Thank you for sharing your ideas. The world is better for this experiment of yours. Okay, it's time for me to get back to failing now.
mapwall 7 months ago
How ironic! Today I was doing a simple video series on using a product to make my car headlights clear again,and at the end of the last video I listed the mistakes I made so that others could learn from them!
I did not feel like I failed,but rather that my mistakes could help others do better!
Not only did I learn from MY mistakes,but the mistakes in the instructions as well!
CliftonPhotographer 7 months ago
You really opened my mind with this. Especially the mindset part since I realise I've been stuck in a fixed mindset all my life. Now that my studies hit a hard patch and I have to re-do many courses, I feel like I'm a total loser because I used to be so smart but suddenly hit a hard patch. With your tips I might be able to change that and finish my studies like I really want.
Thank you for this. Your voice is also so smoothing it relaxed me all the way through this video.
2Cool4UCompany 7 months ago 11
@2Cool4UCompany
I have the same problem!
aceoffspades1 7 months ago
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Stormeris 7 months ago
i rly like your videos- keep it up :)
dragoez2 7 months ago
I like your effort, keep up the good work.
willjcus 7 months ago
Yeeaah I'm going to pass this piece of excellence on.
Imforeverone88 7 months ago
I winced the other day as I read a review of my latest group of songs and 'disheartened' was among my feelings.
Thanks for your video.....it's very 'heartening' ...... ah ..... life's a funny thing. :)
saucepanbach 7 months ago
I am stunned by the brilliance of this.
totallysick9999 7 months ago
wow your movies are brilliant. :D I love them.. :D
Bumle88 7 months ago
repetitio est mater studiorum, bro, in past there were some people who knew that already thousand years again
hawkershurtugal 7 months ago
The title of the video is a bit misleading because some might take it litteral,you dont NEED to fail but if you do fail trying domething new or something you're bad at, its OKAY because you learn alot from it.
I dont think you said chase failure because anyone who tries something 'beyond himself' will eventually encounter it.
airbourne1903 7 months ago
assertion, explanation, example, proof, references
first person to convince me with arguments
xXRedrogOXx 7 months ago
If failing is good I've got it made.
MidiPunk 7 months ago
I heard about this on Forum!!!
It's also on NurtureShock: How (Not) to Nurture a Child
Logicistix 7 months ago
Awesome ! :)
sc2mmk 7 months ago
HoN = Heroes of Newearth
GamerGoofy100 7 months ago
Looks like 4 people think they are geniuses
LindaVeeSado 7 months ago
Derek, whats a basketball player say about how many shots he's missed?
ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND!
IamTheiPhone 7 months ago 4
ooooohhh inspireing (:
marioornot 7 months ago
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zcuzcu 7 months ago 41
@zcuzcu Troll ;P
skippednote 7 months ago
@zcuzcu doddle eeeeeeeep! doodididle eeeeeeeeep!
dereksivers 6 months ago 3
@dereksivers Is this a failure?
OwnageFish 4 months ago
I am so glad we have the same name. :)
DerekBurn 7 months ago
Great video; really super. Here's a great book about failure: Try Again Fail Again Fail Better.
gspotjazz 7 months ago
Thanks Derek! Great work! I am so glad I got to meet you years ago.. all the best!
Nettye
nettyestamper 7 months ago
Brilliant presentation!
joyqyl 7 months ago
You know those moments where you go "Ahh that makes perfect sense now!" Yeah, I had at least 20 of those watching this. Excellent work, Derek.
MrEthereality 7 months ago 3
Just purchased your audiobook of "Anything You Want" through Audible.
philinmotion 8 months ago
the book is amazing
philinmotion 8 months ago
Incredible video Derek, thank you so much for posting. I purchased your book "Anything You Want" today on iTunes and I very much look forward to diving into it. Keep it up my friend
HollywoodSheen 8 months ago
This exceeded my expectations. You must have worked very hard on this!
DrewdlePop 8 months ago 6
Derek, thank you so much for this video... this really has motivated me as musician and future composer to keep on failing! Thank you for the inspiration and wisdom you shared.
froogs165 8 months ago
So true!
abetmusic 8 months ago
Great insights into something i didn't even think of before :)
thespritelterran 9 months ago
كل الاحترام!
Excelsoft 9 months ago
(continued, sorry it's so long) Re:clay class - I'd rather get a lesser mark trying to make a great pot, than have a massive pile of unlooked-at pots for an easy A. I'd be more upset with that lesser mark, but I'd keep trying, and making more pots, until I got it right, (assuming I ever could and had unlimited clay...) Sorry Derek, but I didn't think that story was a good example, it practically contradicts your point. As @visualplant points out, ultimately, we are striving to succeed.
sockpuppety 9 months ago
@sockpuppety, I think you missed the point. I would have cried for not getting to the mass class.
You see TRYING to make a great pot doesn't teach you much about MAKING a great pot. The first item I threw kept shrinking, until I ended up with a tiny plate suitable for soy sauce dip or used tea bag. My fourth effort resulted in a cup big enough for tea. To be able to make a pot you must learn to make a pot... and it's only if you know how to make a pot, you can make a good pot.
Ketutar 9 months ago
@Ketutar, My own point was I'd make MANY pots regardless, but if I'm to be marked, I'd rather for my quality than my quanity. (Ultimately I'm not out for marks, I'm out to improve my abilities. My success would be how much I TRIED!) :o) ("Trying" and "making" are synonymous to me.) I'd've failed many MORE times trying to make a perfect pot, and not failed at all making 50 pounds of careless pots. That's why I thought it a poor example the overall premise; learning from failure.
sockpuppety 9 months ago
@sockpuppety ...Mind you, I'm assuming unlimited clay for ALL. If the perfect pot side only get enough clay for 1 pot, obviously I'd want to be on the weight side! But if each pays for their own clay; I'm poor so I'd want to be on the 1 pot side, so at least I could keep destroying & reworking it until ready for firing, rather than only make a couple pounds of pots because that's all I could afford and get an F... In that case, better to take my chances with one pot. I'd still want to pass!
sockpuppety 9 months ago
(sorry, still babbling & I know overanalyzing) Re: Clay- I know Derek was making a point about those who made many without caring how they did made better stuff than those who made 1 carefully. Yea, but that's obvious; do it more, get better at it. But I want to get GOOD at it (pottery or whatever it is) so my objective will still always be that 1 great pot, and I'll have to make a bazillion pots! But I want to be held accountable for what I do. Failure is worthless without a goal.
sockpuppety 9 months ago
@sockpuppety (And don't worry, Derek, I won't tell you my goal! I shall keep it secret from you! Altho I might tell an honest friend who will hold me accountable, and give me encouragement and help each time I fail...) ;o)
sockpuppety 9 months ago
I'd have wanted to be on the "1 perfect pot" side of the ceramics class. In reality, what would happen to the quantity group once they hit the desired weight? They'd stop, or even not make pots at all but bricks in a competition to have the biggest pile... (I'm assuming unlimited clay was allowed for both sides.) No matter what, I'd have made MANY pots; think of the ol' "practice makes perfect"; but in the end I would have wanted to be judged for my quality. (to be continued)
sockpuppety 9 months ago
Thanks Derek this was doooope! Time to go out and fail some today!
jjosephBlack 10 months ago
Great points. But the goal is not to fail.
The current trend in startup philosophy – "Fail fast and often" – is teaching a young generation of naive entrepreneurs that failure is the destination.
The goal is to succeed. The inevitable reality of striving to succeed includes failing in the process sometimes which is ok as long as you ultimately succeed a few times. If you just keep failing - that's literally what you are instructing people to do here - that ain't good.
visualplant 11 months ago
@visualplant
the point of this video is that, unless you want to ride a bicycle with side wheels all your life, making an investment in failure, instead of sticking to the easy success, allows you to have a remarkable success later.
of course that involves some risk taking. it's up to you to decide how much you can afford to put at stake.
smiexx 10 months ago
@visualplant
by the way, Derek says: fail in order to: 1) learn, 2) grow, 3) experiment
so failure is not the goal here, but the road leading to the goals
smiexx 10 months ago
Love it.
Pradeepan 11 months ago
I'm currently learning Japanese so I'll avoid the people who think they need to "help" me learn the language by doing everything for me.
untmdsprt 11 months ago
Courage wolf is strong with you.
aarobc 11 months ago 65
Good stuff
njabe567 11 months ago
great great video! that must have taken a lot of hard work!
Milugan 11 months ago
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paullongball 11 months ago
You've got to loose to know how to win. Steve Tyler, Aerosmith - Dream on.
derman077 11 months ago
pretty common knowledge
Accursed2552 1 year ago
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Best thing I've heard in a while...
Anders328 1 year ago
Best thing I've heard in a while...
Anders328 1 year ago
thumbs up if you are from HoN forums :)
HsDeluxe2 1 year ago 6
@HsDeluxe2 lol only 16
ragequite1 7 months ago
@HsDeluxe2 The fuck is HoN?
kanesizer9 6 months ago
@kanesizer9 heroes of newarth
hooberschmit 6 months ago
1 person failed
nintenandryan 1 year ago
Fantastic stories embedded within this speech.
OregonCoastGhost 1 year ago
I've gotten really good at failing!
cdechterling 1 year ago
All well and good, but I've become increasingly persuaded of the mindset that
1. Do something b/c you love it and you WANT to [not "should"] get better at it. improving brings you joy and a feeling of accomplishment
2. Concentrate on developing your strengths, not bolstering your weaknesses.
If we were all meant to be equally excellent at all things, some of us are redundant :-)
haraldc 1 year ago
"You must have worked really hard at this".... what a freakin excellent thing to understand. Thanks Derek.
sueandsteveshow 1 year ago
Anything of importance I've ever designed required me to step away from it after a first draft, ideally so that I could return to it with fresh eyes and see what I'd done wrong. It took me years to realize this shouldn't be thought of as a frustrating delay so much as part of a necessary process of improvement.
moeskido 1 year ago
people share this....
thenepaliboys 1 year ago
This is wonderful, thank you.
WRT parenting, especially young kids, and exercising the "good job!" tick, see also Po Bronson's Nurture Shock (there a video on his site called 'The Myth of Praise'). But it's really great (and important!) to be reminded as an adult.
Also WRT showing people all our mistakes, Anna Quindlen has an essay called "Putting up a Good Front" in her book Living Out Loud.
audcrane 1 year ago
Derek. This was total FAIL. Thank you.
I plan on sharing this as widely as I can.
kaymac01 1 year ago
I LOVE this... it speaks to everything I believe and I learned some new stuff too!
heleneaustin 1 year ago
Your Great. Keep these inspiring videos comin...
brick1000 1 year ago
Great post! Makes me think of why the re-write is so important in songwriting. You never (OK, rarely) get it right on the first try. You need to get it out there to see how people react. If you're not connecting (i.e. failing), you need to bite the bullet and re-write until you nail it!!!
davepennHSD 1 year ago
Song writing proves this point to a T. To get good at it you have to write thousands of songs and experience the dogs that can't get up off the page to see what works and doesn't work. So too in investing. The most reliable people are the ones that have seen more than a few market cycles and have made mistakes of all types, their intuition is born of pain, caution, and knowing when to be fearless.
GomersRevenge 1 year ago
Thank you!
Very inspiring!
WhiteShark1967 1 year ago
Derek I hope you are Failing LOL thank you...for sharing.
teranaaa 1 year ago
hi derek, the first ten minutes watching your new video, i just thought: superperficial, that’s nothing new, but then, i really could discover two points. first: when i was in art class at school, i was complimented for working hard. thinking i have no talent, i was frustrated, but indeed i tried harder and i became a designer. second: the clay-experiment convinced me: i wasted so much live time with perfection. thanks for your inspiring impulses, from trial and error space ;-)
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raumfuer 1 year ago
Very interesting studies mentioned as usual. Your talks are always insightful and thought provoking, great job.
sherrylynnleemusic 1 year ago
Thank you, Derek!
101Reasonstobe 1 year ago
Love this! Thank you!
MCinKC711 1 year ago
When I was a kid, the only learning resource I had for programming was a compiler, and no programming manuals. I had no choice but to learn through compiler errors.
As time went by, and as I practiced further, these errors came fewer in numbers.
Now that I'm all grown up, I'm acing all my programming courses at university.
shovonRahman 1 year ago
Thank you Derek. Great to know that I'm still, work in progress. :)
PaulineKyllonen 1 year ago
good stuff
turbolupo 1 year ago