The silence of the "reformed" crowd is deafening against NT Wright. John Piper tried and failed to match wits with this bloke. I really grateful there are reasonable voices within Christianity like NT Wright. The reformed guys have absolutely nothing to say to him when it comes to topics like this one. I mean they have no idea that their world view colors completely how they read the bible. the fact that Wright is willing to admit this himself probably means he's less susceptible to doing this.
@brendos444 Reformed theology is intellectually bankrupt and the truth is, Wright is simply out of Pipers intellectual league. Wright is a theologian in the tradition of Augustine and Aquinas and Piper is a theologian in the tradition of TV evangelists.
@Aege I agree. Wright is in the same league as Augustine and Aquinas, although I think he'd disagree with a lot of what both said. He has a far more Eastern theology focus than either Augustine or Aquinas. I find that he's in agreement with a lot of what the Eastern Fathers have said e.g. St John Chrysostom, St Gregory of Nyssa etc. Piper probably doesn;t realise how US-centric his theology is. i.e. the questions asked in contemporary US culture just aren't the questions dealt with in scripture.
@brendos444 Btw, being eastern orthodox as I am, Saint John Chrysostom is one of my favorite theologians. His treatise against Islam is a particular favorite of mine.
@AegeanKing Are you sure that it was St John Chrysostom that wrote a treatise against Islam? Cos Chrysostom predates Islam by more than a century. Perhaps ur thinking of someone else? Anyways let me know which church fathers have written against Islam. I'd be interested in reading them.
@AegeanKing You're fundamentally misunderstanding Wright's and Piper's roles. Piper is a Pastor; of course he will be more similar to TV Evangelists because his role is to take the theology he finds and to apply it. The Pastor's role goes beyond teaching, it is shepherding, which is to say leading the congregation in the application of theology. Furthermore, to say that Reformed theology is intellectually bankrupt shows a closed-mindedness that neither Wright nor Piper would advocate.
@stuartklenk N.T. Wright was saying the exact same thing when he was Bishop of Durham. So he knows about shepherding. The position that reformed theology is intellectually bankrupt is my position. I never said it was theirs. Lastly, my original statement still stands. Piper is not in the same league with Wright when it comes to theology.
The silence of the "reformed" crowd is deafening against NT Wright. John Piper tried and failed to match wits with this bloke. I really grateful there are reasonable voices within Christianity like NT Wright. The reformed guys have absolutely nothing to say to him when it comes to topics like this one. I mean they have no idea that their world view colors completely how they read the bible. the fact that Wright is willing to admit this himself probably means he's less susceptible to doing this.
brendos444 9 months ago
@brendos444 Reformed theology is intellectually bankrupt and the truth is, Wright is simply out of Pipers intellectual league. Wright is a theologian in the tradition of Augustine and Aquinas and Piper is a theologian in the tradition of TV evangelists.
AegeanKing 5 months ago
@Aege I agree. Wright is in the same league as Augustine and Aquinas, although I think he'd disagree with a lot of what both said. He has a far more Eastern theology focus than either Augustine or Aquinas. I find that he's in agreement with a lot of what the Eastern Fathers have said e.g. St John Chrysostom, St Gregory of Nyssa etc. Piper probably doesn;t realise how US-centric his theology is. i.e. the questions asked in contemporary US culture just aren't the questions dealt with in scripture.
brendos444 5 months ago
@brendos444 So true. Pipers theology would be completely alien to any of the eastern fathers.
AegeanKing 5 months ago
@brendos444 Btw, being eastern orthodox as I am, Saint John Chrysostom is one of my favorite theologians. His treatise against Islam is a particular favorite of mine.
AegeanKing 5 months ago
@AegeanKing Are you sure that it was St John Chrysostom that wrote a treatise against Islam? Cos Chrysostom predates Islam by more than a century. Perhaps ur thinking of someone else? Anyways let me know which church fathers have written against Islam. I'd be interested in reading them.
brendos444 5 months ago
@brendos444 Sorry, I mean Saint John of Damascus. Just google, Saint John of Damascus against Islam.
AegeanKing 5 months ago
@AegeanKing You're fundamentally misunderstanding Wright's and Piper's roles. Piper is a Pastor; of course he will be more similar to TV Evangelists because his role is to take the theology he finds and to apply it. The Pastor's role goes beyond teaching, it is shepherding, which is to say leading the congregation in the application of theology. Furthermore, to say that Reformed theology is intellectually bankrupt shows a closed-mindedness that neither Wright nor Piper would advocate.
stuartklenk 1 month ago
@stuartklenk N.T. Wright was saying the exact same thing when he was Bishop of Durham. So he knows about shepherding. The position that reformed theology is intellectually bankrupt is my position. I never said it was theirs. Lastly, my original statement still stands. Piper is not in the same league with Wright when it comes to theology.
AegeanKing 1 month ago
great videos.
lilrat489 1 year ago
Does Tom Wright believe in Evolution?
ScalarPhotonZ 1 year ago
@ScalarPhotonZ Basically yes, otherwise he wouldn't be on Biologos.
ClamCrunchy 10 months ago
@ClamCrunchy lol no he doesn't
signofthehammer 9 months ago
@signofthehammer If he didn't, Biologos wouldn't have made a video featuring him. It would be contrary to their goals.
ClamCrunchy 9 months ago
@ClamCrunchy he has a video talking about his thoughts on evolution
signofthehammer 9 months ago
@signofthehammer In the video "Nt wright on Darwin 8", he accepts evolutionary theory and the fact that species evolve.
Drgamedood 6 months ago
Great Video. We need more Bishop Wrights and less Bishop Spongs.
Gaius8666a 1 year ago