The fact that oxygen is also stored and used in the fuel cell makes it very efficient. 20 liters of water requires 1700 kWh's to electrolyze. Compare that to batteries! That means when those gases of h2 and o2 are recombined they liberate almost the same level of energy!
A fuel cell is revolutionary? It's expensive and somewhat inefficient. It's another method sure, but I wouldn't call it any more revolutionary than flywheel or mechanical (water tower/reservoir) energy storage.
@barwick11 maybe the revolutionary part is the catalyst, aside from that fuel cells have been in development for decades, so yeah, nothing really revolutionary about them
New? Isn't this just the same old electrolysis. Battery tech is more efficient but on large scale is still about TWENTY TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN MOLTEN SALTS. Therefore, the solution is in thousands of sq mi of mirrors pinpointing the light that heats the salt. Temps are high enough to run a Brayton cycle!
for msn1956, Just gotta hope that the big bad wolf don't come along and blow your tent down.
I believe that Dr. Nocera has a brilliant idea here, also that the latent heat would also be used for our comfort.. I was giving our customers passive solar hot water systems when they bought their new homes back in 1990's and I'm sure that the system paid for itself in four to five years, then the energy savings went directly into their pockets, excluding maintenance costs of course..
a Hydrogen & Oxygen system using water if great, for a while but with population increase means we will be burning up the resources needed to sustain life on this planet, the Earth itself emits tons of hydrogen already into space from electrified lightning events per day which only speeds up the process of drying up the water available over the course of thousands of years. this planet will run out of water sooner as the population grows by the square of the law of breeding.
In a revolutionary leap that could transform solar power from a marginal, boutique alternative into a mainstream energy source, MIT researchers have overcome a major barrier to large-scale solar power: storing energy for use when the sun doesn't shine.
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Because they will rob us all of our oil profits, and replace our good old monster trucks with pissy little gookmobiles that go bip, bip, bip. Fuck them all.
This is an old idea not new.
brynestavanger1 2 months ago
The fact that oxygen is also stored and used in the fuel cell makes it very efficient. 20 liters of water requires 1700 kWh's to electrolyze. Compare that to batteries! That means when those gases of h2 and o2 are recombined they liberate almost the same level of energy!
TheSolarmike 1 year ago
A fuel cell is revolutionary? It's expensive and somewhat inefficient. It's another method sure, but I wouldn't call it any more revolutionary than flywheel or mechanical (water tower/reservoir) energy storage.
barwick11 1 year ago
@barwick11 maybe the revolutionary part is the catalyst, aside from that fuel cells have been in development for decades, so yeah, nothing really revolutionary about them
Aesus1 1 year ago
New? Isn't this just the same old electrolysis. Battery tech is more efficient but on large scale is still about TWENTY TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN MOLTEN SALTS. Therefore, the solution is in thousands of sq mi of mirrors pinpointing the light that heats the salt. Temps are high enough to run a Brayton cycle!
So what's the deal with that?
fireofenergy 1 year ago
for msn1956, Just gotta hope that the big bad wolf don't come along and blow your tent down.
I believe that Dr. Nocera has a brilliant idea here, also that the latent heat would also be used for our comfort.. I was giving our customers passive solar hot water systems when they bought their new homes back in 1990's and I'm sure that the system paid for itself in four to five years, then the energy savings went directly into their pockets, excluding maintenance costs of course..
BuzzDyou 1 year ago
a Hydrogen & Oxygen system using water if great, for a while but with population increase means we will be burning up the resources needed to sustain life on this planet, the Earth itself emits tons of hydrogen already into space from electrified lightning events per day which only speeds up the process of drying up the water available over the course of thousands of years. this planet will run out of water sooner as the population grows by the square of the law of breeding.
onthecuttingedge2005 2 years ago
Imagine if they figure out a way to do this with ocean water, this is encouraging
LocalBikeTrader 2 years ago
Why doesn't the government regulate all new houses being built to come with solar panels and a storage system ??
then people would have to buy smaller to compensate for the cost. Saving money on less junk to fill thier houses with..and so on. I mean wake up!!
Gilmourist 2 years ago
right on Gilmore - like if we could all live in tents that would be real energy efficient - Cool !!
msn1956 2 years ago
Wind generators produce more power than a solar energy? Well very useful when cloudy outside.
LostInMadness220 3 years ago 2
In a revolutionary leap that could transform solar power from a marginal, boutique alternative into a mainstream energy source, MIT researchers have overcome a major barrier to large-scale solar power: storing energy for use when the sun doesn't shine.
christiangeo 3 years ago 2
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I hope the oil folks assassinate these bastards and bury their technology.
lonecretin 3 years ago
why?
preludedriver226 3 years ago
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Because they will rob us all of our oil profits, and replace our good old monster trucks with pissy little gookmobiles that go bip, bip, bip. Fuck them all.
lonecretin 3 years ago
You are a clown , the U.S imports most of its oil from the Arabs which means you and your country are getting poorer everyday. Get a clue will ya.
glensly 2 years ago
hey there is actually a supercar electric, 0-100km\h in 4 sec!!
scartiloffista 2 years ago