Re: Frustrated Atheists & GoGreen18

[bunchofdaisies]

I attach my morality to the tales from Hans Christian Anderson

[mollenth]

Al-Quran has 1400 years ago and Muslim Scientists has been declared "He (God) makes you (human), in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness".

Al Quran sura Az Zumar;6

".....He (God) makes you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness. . . ."

Have the Bible and scientists states "He (God ) makes you (human), in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness"?

[piffmonger]

lol @ not be a parasite to your fellow brethren.

great points my man, i always thought religion should be replaced by common sense.

[savagepatty]

I agree i may not be gay or an atheist but Why dose it matter if someone is gay or strate if it doesn't affect you than stfu and get over it..

Here's a thought im a pagan and my god's predate the Christan one god and yet im a heathen... Really?

[CognosSquare]

You are damn good.

[ajl260]

If you want to improve on your argumentation you may want to consider being more concise. Just thought I would give you some constructive advice.

[squirreljester2]

Great videos man, keep it up!

But... this video's title has "GrGreen18" in it, and there was nothing about her in your video, did you forget? :)

[BiodegradeableMan]

I am going to Heaven and I cannot wait! I long to be reunited with mum, dad, grandpa, grandma and all my predecessors going all the way back to the day of creation. I can talk physics with Einstein and philosophy with Aristotle, I can arm-wrestle Admiral Nelson (left arm) and talk makeup tips with the Elephant man, how cool is that!

[htoontube]

I don't think you will see Aristotle in your heaven, he was a man of reason and logic.

[malakain900]

zing

[JazielLandrie]

Sorry dude, neither Einstein or Aristotle were Christian, so they're burning in hell for eternity.

[BiodegradeableMan]

Not so! They both embraced God on their death beds.

Of course so did Ted Bundy and Aileen Wuornos so should be a riot up there dude.....

[beautifulirony]

Thanks.

[htoontube]

Very well said, Cristofer.

[prestige334]

I have gone back to religion but I still like your debates.

[shayneby]

That's exactly what Jack's piont was about. It's not a surprise for you to say that because you don't believe in God.

[NETSEMRY]

Religions as a whole body of orgaized peoples have done the most horrific things to other human beings in the name or for the name of their faith in what ever it is they beleive, and honestly has nothing to do with a supreme GOD creator, more than it does their bruised egos and want for complete dominance. I personally want nothing to do with man made religions and am seaking out that DEVINE Balance being.

[satanmachine]

when I was a small boy, my older brother told me that faith and prayer is like wishing. then he told me to wish in one hand and shit in the other, and told me to see what one filled up first. I think I was lucky recieving that lesson at such a young age

[jfeltes]

I couldn't have said it better.

[RayAtheist]

these people like togetherforpeace.......just...­.what can i say

tsk tsk.......

[assslickercumface]

I agree with your logical insights cristofer7.

[SpunjChan]

Well said, mate. :)

[DeSwiss]

What a fucking idiot!

[sirODST117]

what? not smart enough to come up with a dignified response to the topic? why don't you grow up?

[assslickercumface]

Who you?

[jtrubilla]

Great video

[TheIllegit]

You of course have the right to determine what is right/wrong for yourself, or what you think others should do. But as a naturalist (presuming you are one), you can NOT hold that your particular whims are more valid than any other whim (including whims such as 'all homosexuals should be stoned to death'), or anything other than pure personal preference. In being a naturalist, there's no empirical data that can lead one to the conclusion that your particular whims are of more value than any otr

[aveyowyns]

WRONGO. How many times is homosexuality mentioned in the bible? ...like three times, maybe five.

EVERYONE is worthy of hell, not only homosexuals.

God despises sin, not the sinner... God despises smple sins as spreading rumors...'spreading discord among bretheren, is one of the seven things God HATES, homosexuality is not. So just because one of the few times homosexuality ismentioned in the bible it is also tied to 'abomination' it doesn't mean it is any worse than anyother sin.

[Key2daUnderground]

theres no hell

[assslickercumface]

Hell is just another man made idea to keep people in line, to keep people from doing bad things, that's all it really is. Hell is an imaginary place.

[TuesdayPillow]

Hell - ain't a bad place! Hell is from here to eternity. (Sorry, couldn't help the lyrical quote).

I agree with your statement.

[15kalas15]

Great video and great points. It's too bad that Christians see atheists as monsters and don't actually listen to what they have to say without being incredibly defensive or being in denial.

[bloodeyez2]

"Religion isn't known to be on the right side of issues..."

Sure, because you and other atheists are the ones to decide for everyone else what the right sides of issues are, and this is the same person who made a video with his kid about the things he teaches the child, but when you do it its not BRAINWASHING, right? lol.

You atheists are hypocrites much! You expect everyone in society to live by your definition of morality, but when other people say the same you call it DOGMA.

[AgenonTaeche]

I ask you by what scripture, what dogma, do we refer to in judging anything, at all? Its rightfully called dogma because it *is*, we atheists dont refer to rules laid down from upon high to discern or justify whats right or not; if there is to be any society, at all, there has to be a set of rules agreed on by mostly everyone. The clincher is that religious dogma stunts, retards a society while a secular morality based on reason promotes whats good in our nature while hindering the bad. QED.

[geolab101]

Most atheists I've come across want people to live their lives the way they see fit. To me it seems most of them want everybody to enjoy life and have all the freedoms that other people enjoy.

I don't want to impose my morality on you. I hate it when certain groups impose their (homosexuality is wrong) morality on the rest of society.

You might have overstated what this video was about.

[buddhaknowsall]

listen most atheists teach their kids wats right and wrong according to the laws set by the government and also wat they know is right and wrong from their experiences, not from a fictional book , we dont say gay sex is bad bc thats wat this fake book says we if its a personal issue then 99% of the time its not our beezwax

[Key2daUnderground]

I dont think u get it. No decision you make can be objective if the reasons behind the decision is religious dogma. Dogma doesnt allow independent thought. In fact, you didnt even make the decision, the Bible decided for you.

Is there any logical reason for gays & lesbians to be punished for their sexual orientation? Who does it affect besides the consenting adults involved? Can u give a comprehensible argument against homosexuals besides "cuz the babble says this & it says that..."?

[jrsbarker]

"This is what God has in store for a homosexual".

I can't think of any thoughtful Christian who says that if someone is a homosexual, they are going to hell. Certainly that is not what the Bible teaches, and that is not what Jack said. Homosexuality is sin, just like any other sin.

[buddhaknowsall]

and committing sins sends u to hell thats wat he mean FH

[DeepTh0ught]

Indeed it is what the bible teaches, I challange you to read your bible from cover to cover. And when you close the final page, ask yourself, is this really a god I want to whorship? Is this really a god? Or the creations of men...

[47f0]

Apparently, morality can only come from some holy book.

There are many traits we would call moral. Hard working. That's moral. Caring for your offspring. Yep, moral. Willing to defend your community, even to the ultimate sacrifice. Moral. Working with others in your community for the common good. Moral.

All of these moral attributes can be found in the nearest anthill. And somehow, ants manage to achieve this morality without the benefit of the Bible.

[tommylehman]

Some 2,500 years after Socrates owned the shit out of Euthyphro, Chrisitans still bring this up. Pathetic.

[Neilsama]

So once again, we have an apologist arguing that unless we have God, we can't appeal to morality. And yet, by advancing this argument, the theist has forfeited his own right to say what is right and wrong, because he's circumvented any inquiry of truth and gone right for the appeal to adverse consequence.

If there's no God, then there's no God. The rest is just Jack making a wish.

[thegyger]

One of your best videos EVER. I'd give you 6 stars if I could. It's eerie how much we think alike.

You hit the nail right on the head :)

[dylantuzyk]

YES. My absolute favourite Christians are the guys like the WBC, the guys who won't stop with the hate speech, then when questioned act all innocent: "Oh, I don't hate them; God hates them." Oh, it's GOD that hates them! I was confused because you were the one that was promoting bigotry, but now I see you're just, like, a hatred middleman! Gotcha.

Jeez.

[rhalas]

"If you're leaving behind the normal tools of understanding for mythology, then what's right or wrong to you is arbitrary." Very well worded. 5 stars.

[lifeisfair123]

Jack is a projection machine. He should be a movie theater. He could make plenty of money.

[jaycee69]

'kin ey.

[a2tis]

very nice suggestion for 11th commandment: "thou shall not be a parasite to your brethren with magical stories" :)

[Lpoolboy]

There is a commandment for that, dude. Thou shalt not steal.

[pteromalid]

Thank you for eloquently stating my thoughts better than I could ever do. You inspired me to comment on Jack's video. I enjoyed your oat meal analogy; it reminded me of Olivier's speech to Currtis in Spartacus about snails and oysters, analyzing homosexuality as just a matter of taste.

[KingCrimson776]

Great video.

[TheLastCoolName]

How the fuck did this comment get marked as spam?

[GeologyofOhio]

I don't recall what was written, but that's censorship for you.

[derelictdegrac3]

Well done, I was so fuckin pissed listening to that toad ramble on about his own righteousness.

I am frustrated, but not at their fake god, I'm frustrated at how these fuckin morons can have so much pull in my life. There's a 150 foot cross on the highway!!!

[SaintCog]

I love oatmeal...

[Subfightr]

This dude is the best youtube has to offer.

[happysplodie]

...you got something against my oatmeal, punk?

I rarely respond to Jack because he doesn't get it and pretty much has proven in his video exchanges with philhellens and rozejabooze (both names mispelles, I'm sure) Jack doesn't want to get it.

Still a great video.

[VirtualHolocaust]

you are awesome its a damn shame people are one starring it.

[JasperAvi]

Well put.

[ravenslaves]

" This person eats oatmeal" is nothing?

Oatmeal is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. "...And the men, who eat of the grain and oats, are beasts in the eyes of the Lord, your god. And to them, that they be outcast from thine sight, those who would cook and be loud on the morning after the wine has been consumed, for the glory of God." ~Leon 17:23

well...I do like a little oatmeal with raisins...maybe some brown sugar....

But Jesus will forgive me. Once my check to him clears...

[happysplodie]

You sir, win.

[8journey8]

I tried to get through Jack's last video and I can't. He is saying nothing new, he renukes the same hash and seems unable to understand a single scintilla of the non-theist position. He seems like he is acting, like a thespian in a dramatic role.

Christians who post these *god is perfect* videos have never read that bible, as it clearly shows a being with morals lower than a common criminal. If they want to keep their faith, they Mustn't read it. Not ever,not once, or they will lose that faith.

[rnistuk]

"Thou shalt not be a parasite" if that were one of the ten commandments, wouldn't xtianity implode?

[mephigog]

AHaha that made my day.

[semiliteratedgod]

you think a different bible would help?!

how about this "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven"

so how many televangelists aren't billionaires?

and btw, the bible teaches that certain trivial things must be punished by stoning, people can sell their daughters into slavery, etc

NOBODY gives a fuck, even the Christian Taliban (fundamentalist evangelicals) have given up on this....

[itsbizbuz]

well said.

[happyjesus123]

You have to agree that being Gay is at least as immoral as plowing a field with a donkey and an ass (Deuteronomy 22:10) or eating a rabbit (Leviticus 11:6). Mixed in with this bronze age nonsense is some useful advice. Deuteronomy 22 requires people to return lost livestock if they know the owner or if the owner asks for them. Like any book one needs to read the Bible critically. Jack's problem may be as much literacy as theology.

[achampag]

ever consider making vids about something else?

[metalorg]

Very insightful.

[a300pilotster]

I long for the day when the species can leave these childish books (bible) behind.

[nitarna]

You rock dude :)

[DavosLogos]

Only thing that pops into my head is... fuck jack.

Honestly, why waste your time with an unstable douchebag who lies to himself?

[MrDustandechoes]

comment support great vids

[samten54]

Not so many years ago people such as yourself were burned at the stake for holding the views you hold. It really spells the end for religions because ultimately bigoted beliefs cant withstand open discussion.

[JimTL1000R]

Using a 2000 year old book for guidence and knowledge is like saying I was smarter when I was 12. (I am 33 now) If Jesus walked into a Phychatrists office what would he be labled as a patient? Jesus walking around talking about his Dad the creator and telling the Dr. all these prophosies that never will happened or have long passed and never did happen? I rose from the dead... A nut.

[williamcardno]

Can I say that you are easily becoming my favorite vlogger and you make videos far too seldom.

Be glad you missed Jack's first video - it made me livid beyond comparison.

[Improbable0possible]

Your comment william matches my view exactly.

[hypothetisch]

Giving away money when you don't have enough to feed yourself is just stupid or to use a great Dutch proverb

"Wie geeft van wat hij heeft is waard dat hij leeft. Wie geeft al dat hij heeft is waard dat hij gebrek lijdt."

[DavosLogos]

nouuuu doe je toch lekker

[hypothetisch]

????

[SomeBSUTubeName]

There is a group of people that includes both atheists and theists that realizes that all people really are quite silly and this is, indeed, a ship of fools. I'm not sure what people do with this knowledge, but it does give one a certain humility and perspective.

[Scrapheap71]

I've had the impression for quite some time now that many of those in the Christian leadership are really atheists who know a good scam when they see it. Wherever you have a large concentration of sheep, you will have wolves!

[8WholeThing]

We can understand why things like killing and deceit are detrimental to society but the theist can't For them, those things are just arbitrary, decided by a whim. God could have made it the other way.

If God is unchanging,they can't use the "it's his nature" argument because that is just the arbitrary way he turned out.

[Urschleim]

you are beautiful

[Improbable0possible]

Good video.I can't see how two men or women who have a mutual attraction can be a bad thing. It's merely someones orientation, it doesn't harm anyone. I've had these debates countless times and the general response i get is a recite of leviticus or i get " you fucking fag, it's man and woman not man and man you sick fuck" It's weird how they condemn homosexuality but will break a lot of the other sins stated in the bible. Hypocricy me thinks. Once again good vid

Peace and Love.