PZ, the Preacher, & New Orleans

[pbrskater26]

@thevasc21

Dude, thats almost like paying for sex! But what if it was consentual? Or what if the girl was not a virgion but the guy was? I'm 27 and still a virgion, I wont to get laid before i'm forty, no point in waiting till marrege! Besides sex is just part of life, but religion seems to oppress it!

[Mjhavok]

Does he know PZ is the human avatar of Cthulhu?

[healthyaddict]

It's better that he doesn't know. ;)

[known12]

nope.you arent adressing my responses but instead keep on posting new comments.its the classic sign of someone who is just following a script rather than actually caring what the other guys is saying.

[jxaxmxixn]

known12

what is your motive here? you can tell us all you like of what god says in the bible... but you have to remember most of us already know the bible is nothing more than a poorly written story book full of nonsense.

you are completely wasting your time and affirming more so to us that we are standing on the right side of the fence.

maybe if you really took a look at the bible from a non-ignorant perspective you'd realize (as i did) the truth and join us. (satans little helpers ;-D )

[known12]

you might not agree with any of Gods decrees back then....but thats the way God is.scipture says on the last day ALL knee's will bend.that means you.regardless of any issues you have with his decrees 4000 years ago.

[known12]

I'm not going to spin my wheels with someone who isnt reading my responses.God knew they were going to eat the apple, but God..like a parent...doesnt abort the children because they know they will do wrong stuff in their life.

[known12]

stop over analyzing. humans have to have a history regardless of what God knows at the outset.God should abort creation because he knows that they would do bad things? thank God my parents didnt think like you do.

[known12]

theres "mind fuck" here. you arent a george carlin.like I said...you are saying a parent should abort their child because they know someday it might do something wrong.for your point to make sense,it requires God to abort creating humans because they can do wrong.

[known12]

you esencially are saying, that if people are havign a baby, they should abort it, because they know ahead of time what they created someday will do something wrong.thats what you are saying God should have done. THINK before you post.

[known12]

for the same reason your parents told you not to do something even though they knew you were just going to do it anyways. to be free, you have to be allowed a history.

[known12]

slowly...read....what I said.if you cant see the tie in between Gods actions and a parents well then look up the word analogy.somehow you thought I rather talk really about your mom and dad? brother.

[known12]

well the vasc,you have become a nazi if you want to keep christians from celebrating. you dont see that do you? you are what you say christians are.oprressive to those who dotn share your paricular views.

[mkrulic517439]

do not do close ups. you have the face for radio

[known12]

no,atheists define themselves by their unbelief. if you dont believe in something...then having some kind of movement based around not believing ....is silly. I dont believe in santa..I dont some form of santa group.

[Rissoleking]

"I dont believe in santa..I dont some form of santa group."

Lets say you live in a country where Santa-believers are the majority, and lets say these Santians vote for representatives who deny gay rights (because they believe Santa doesn't like gays), or who cover up childhood abuse by shopping mall Santas?

Then again, even if Santians did none of these things, wouldn't you want to stand up and say 'For fuck's sake, there's no such thing as Santa!'

[Carpathia25]

@known12

no,atheists define themselves by their unbelief.

No YOU do. I don't believe in astrology either, but I'm interested in astronomy.

[mkrulic517439]

yea but, people who believe in santa do not form groups that influence govt decisions that impact my life, start wars in the name of santa, oppres countless masses in the name of santa,...

[known12]

wars....influencing gov decisions.....homophobia ...isnt a symptom of christianity or religion. its a symptom of human nature.if there was no god man would still be fighting over land ,bigotry,money,resources. thats what we do.you think atheists are outside human nature?

[mkrulic517439]

outside human nature no, but attaching a negative characteristic to the behavior is religions are notorious for. in this country the religious right is determing what is being taught in school, the rights we have over our bodies, the way art is expressed,...

[known12]

in this country? this is hardly the taliban.

biology....evolution...was all taught where I went to school. I dont know what your afraid of. atheist are no different than the religious they dislike. they prefer their own agenda pushed just like the religious.

[mkrulic517439]

I was refering to the teaching of intelligent design

[known12]

last I heard, science hasnt said there isnt a God. that means an intelligent designer is still on the table. if science is still out on what got this all going and you want to silence that viewpoint,congradulations. you are no different than the religious you complain about.

[bp061271]

@known12 Science hasn't said there isn't a God because it can't...just like it can't say there aren't fairies.

[known12]

we arent talking fairys. we are talking a designer.the fact you allot the idea of a creator on par with a fairy,is telling that you have inserted your own agenda above science as science hasnt said there is no God.

[bp061271]

How is that telling of my own agenda? I'm saying that just because God has not been disproven does not mean we should devote any amount of study to God. And I'm equating your logic with saying, since fairies have not been disproven by science, we should study fairies.

[known12]

a fairly is accepted as being a storybook creature invented by man. the concept a deity designed the millions of lifeforms,DNA,nature,the reporoductive system....is far outside a storybook and may even be necessary for this to ahve started. a fairy isnt.

[badism]

Damn right. Lord Zeus did a bang up job.

I hope you're right with the god of gods or else you'll be seeing his brother down below.

[mkrulic517439]

how do you jump from,"science hasnt said there isnt a God" to the god of abraham must be the right one to fill the gaps that science is ignorant about. why not saturn, to roman god of agriculture?

[Zaphrod88]

@known12

This country teaches science in spite of the best efforts of many religious people to have them replace it with goofy theology. An atheist is interested in teaching facts, truth and unbiased science. If that is an agenda, call me guilty of pushing it.

[bp061271]

@Zaphrod88

"An atheist is interested in teaching facts, truth and unbiased science."

Despite how much I wish that were true, it is a vast generalization.

[bp061271]

@known12 What agenda is that?

[known12]

atheists show all the symptoms of a belief system inferiority complex. they see the various religious people celebrating their belief,and like a child that is watching another child play with a toy he doesnt have.....starts a tantrum.only in this case we get these bitchy et touchy feely videos videos...define us! blah just live your lives.

[99minerkc]

Wow! You don't know very much about Atheists do you!!! I'm not an atheist and doubt I ever will be, but I do know that an atheist SIMPLE lacks a belief in any God! Prove there's a God and most likely an atheist will convert to a believer!

[bp061271]

You are really dense. There are plenty of videos on this site that have already debunked such ridiculous claims and if you weren't so dense you would've already debunked them yourself.

[LynxChan]

I'm going to stop reading the Christian comments because I came in good faith and would rather leave that way too.

Though I'm an atheist that got here from PZs blog and I probably disagree with almost everything you believe, I think it's awesome you want to raise money to help the people of NOLA. So good luck to you and when PZ has you figuratively crucified, remember its for a good cause! If I'm at the computer I may just tune in and donate :)

[BeforeTheNoose]

A preacher with more than 1 pair of shoes is a hypocrite.

I've never seen a poor preacher yet, which is strange if you read the bible, because aren't you supposed to give all your money and belongings to the poor?

I can't believe people get so rich when they are of literally no use to society. not only that but they also lie to children, adults, themselves and bully anyone who doesn't agree with their bronze age myths.

[99minerkc]

There's A LOT of preachers who have a lot more than many lower income people and there's a lot of hypocrites! I agree with you!!

[cowlark2000]

Pay for your Mercedes? I thought that's what the Christian sheep herd was for?

[99minerkc]

It is!!

[NewEonOrchestra]

Aaaand PZ Meyers just linked to this video in Pharyngula. About an hour ago, actually.

[Wrath0fKhan]

I aint paying for your Mercedes! No chance! :-P

[AutodidacticPhd]

Right, because all the persecutions and prejudices that minorities have always lived under just magically disappear... sure, lets just sweep the inconvenient fact that certain people are being selected for harsh treatment and contempt just because they are different. Why do minorities organize? Because that is the only way they can fight for the rights others take for granted.

Oh, and since you seem to know first hand, tell me why narrow minded jerks have to be stupid in public?

[Infidelerious]

Tried it. It doesn't work.

[BoredInfidel]

known12, you just don't get it.

Atheists don't just disbelieve in the Christian god. We disbelieve ALL gods. We don't exist "just to irritate [Christians]" any more than we exist to irritate Muslims, Jews, Hindus, or anyone else.

[jxaxmxixn]

@known12

what you don't realize is what we Atheists have already come to know...

"The world will remain as one effed up place until religion is irradiated and freedom can truly prevail" (or something to that sort any how)

So why don't you Theists just live your lives and stop scaring little children with threats of eternal damnation in hell if they don't also believe in your imaginary friends? It's like mean people passing on their meanness by being mean.

[known12]

once again jx, if religion were to be "irradiated" there would be no difference.man would still be killing for land,resources,bigotry. because we are simply animals. this is what our nature is like.you,the religious...are the same.

[jxaxmxixn]

@known12

You're obviously brainwashed by religious doctrine so I'll let you off easy.

The bible (amongst other religious texts) makes humans out to be worthless sinners, never able to be worthy of anything no matter how hard we try. This is the brainwashing you've been tainted with and this mindset will truly cause the world to fail.

You see, we ARE more than just animals - we are intelligent beings capable of anything our minds can think of. We're not worthless - religion is!

[known12]

brainwashing is the stuff of sci-fi films. if I have to sit thru hearing atheists tell me they were christian till they reached the age of reason,well then if you can shake the bonds of being raised religious, others can so spare us the silly brainwashing talk.

[jxaxmxixn]

@known12

I was a christian until I was 28, i'm now 29 and an Atheist.

Brainwashing is not sci-fi, everyone is brainwashed in some way in their lifetime...

Christian brainwashing is for example

instilling the fear of hell if they disobey...

It's sick if you ask me!

[known12]

well then by your example if someone is brainwashed growing up they should be able to shake it off in their 20's like you. but by and large they dont. because brainwashing is sci-fi nonsense.

[jxaxmxixn]

@known12

then call it whatever you like!...

how about mind-fucking?

[known12]

mind fucking?just how you phrased your answer, shows, if you cant even post rationally...your mindset isnt rational when you think about serious matters in life.

[BelleGuinness]

Shitty writing ability, total lack of logic, and assumption that the only reason to state one's lack of belief is to annoy others? Yup, dumbass xtian.

[Wingers413]

LMAO.. funny... liked it.. all the power to ya!

college student myself... so can't quite afford it...

[thedeeliciousplum]

hmmm...what an interesting, dynamic and fun friendship jonathan and the healthyaddict have :D Some say that if you live your values, others see these as plain as day. Yup yup.

[WarmWeatherGuy]

Why do people's legs fail to operate as soon as they stand on an escalator?

[leorcc]

The Mercedes is a more worthy cause me thinks.

[jesuped]

Happy Festivus!!!

[Jimb0can]

This is cool!! PZ Myers is awesome! He rode a Triceritops at the Creation "Museum"

[Zentz29]

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[PluralOfEverything]

I won't be taking part in it, but I still think you're awesome.

[JurassicSophisma]

Your preacher friend is hilarious! xP I'll donate a Mercedes for Jesus!

[newexperiment]

1600$ for a trip? I work two jobs, have 200$ left over after bills (not including food) each month, would love to finish my B.S in math (where I a have all A's) but don't have time thanks to work.

2$ per question... suck on it.

[healthyaddict]

The original trip total cost was $8,000. So we've knocked off a lot of the trip already. We do have a couple of pending grants, but haven't heard back from them so they're getting questionable.

We're still working out the details on the question part though, so that may actually change. We need a way to track questions though and an easy way to distribute prizes.

[Politicimo]

January 16th: my Birthday! Looking forward to eating cake hunched in a dark room staring into my laptop screen.

[region1111]

If I were PZ I'd use my power to weasel my way into pretty atheist girls pants.

[TheAtheistPaladin]

The problem with that it wouldn't be long before all who find out is calling you a scum bag for it, even though they would do it themselves.

[lnstrumentalist]

I'd hit it.

[GavinJ06]

Wow thats so cool. I can't believe you guys actually got PZ. Meyers to be an your blogtv show. I definitely won't be missing that.

[GavinJ06]

His surname is spelled Myers isnt it? Damn, I hate making spelling mistakes.

[7410n0]

No worries, it happens a lot according to him.

[mparker18311]

I had the hardest time getting this video to play.

[hallcyon]

I will assist Ashley. We have much more work to do..