Philipp Bayer - Ving Tsun Long Pole

[1NX9]

Very good!

[snapsnapdik]

I just take my m16a4 and make a triple headshot

[Zeratursa]

he dont need to be bruce.. .. bruce is movie master .. bayer is true wing chun master ;)

[VitoHardy]

@Zeratursa I know this guy he is the mater from my friend and he was be trainiert from the best friend from bruce lee and sometimes bruce lee has practice him too

also pssst :D

[weinlee]

@sheyba! du irrst dich. Bruce hat erst bei Yip Man gelernt und danach die längere Zeit bei Wong Shun Leung.

[12345aqd]

Quelle?

[sheyba]

@ leungchaan! ! !

phillip hat nich den selben lehrer wie bruce lee gehabt....ip man war der lehrer bruce lee´s und wong shun leung war ebenfalls der schüler ip man´s...sprich: sie waren beides studenten ip man´s! ! !lg

[leungchaan]

so? his gongfu works. that's the only important thing to me and the reason why i'm learning it.

[MuoGa]

Bruce Lee used to do pole fighting in his movies. Looked like this!

[leungchaan]

no wonder! philipp bayer and bruce lee had the same teacher, wong shun leung. a pity, that he never used a longpole in his movies. but for example in "enter the dragon", you can see him perform some basic moves from the ving tsun longpole form. actually, a lot of lee's techniques have their base in ving tsun.

[spartanwarrior1]

but mr. bayer ain`t bruce.^^

[mgk22]

@leungchaan I was informed that Grandmaster Yip only taught the long pole form to two people therefore Bruce Lee did not actually know the form

[leungchaan]

@mgk22 Wong Shun Leung knew the form, and since he was Lee's older training partner (sihing) and also his friend, it is very probable, that Bruce Lee knew the form.

[mgk22]

@leungchaan I never heard that WOng Shun Leung knew it but ok granted that he may have known it I still doubt that Bruce Lee knew it reason is that its one of the last things taught in Wing Chun(or should be atleast) Bruce Lee wasnt even taught Biu Jee and other advance things he wouldnt have been ready for it keep in mind also that what he used in ETD was not the long pole at all but also remember that in Chinese martial arts you may find simliarities in the forms of different kung fu styles

[mgk22]

@leungchaan remember to that the long pole form is not exclusive to Wing Chun

[hitter1]

@leungchaan think you'll find its 'wing chun' tht bruce lee had base in, ving tsun is a relativly new stylised version of WC created by leung ting. peace!

[papertiger7]

@hitter1 Actually Wing Tsun is the term created by Leung Ting. Not Ving Tsun. 

[Jackeh321]

cool

[gongsau]

this is good VT!!

MOre of mr. Bayer please!

[StratusX53]

Anyone know, are there any other videos of Philipp Bayer demonstrating Wing Chun??

[MuoGa]

Click on his profile i guess :)

[CraX1]

ich will auch mit phillip trainieren...du glücklicher...magst du dich bezüglich der stöcke mal melden?

[croatia2carbon]

haha

you speak like someone who has a lot of experience with ving-tsun. The longpole is a Tradition and not only a weapon.You can train you ving-tsun with it.If you would see philipp in action then you will know what i mean.

one question : what is your sport???

[faranox]

Those are far too long to control.

[leungchaan]

no, they're not too long to control. just because there's no fancy whirling around doesn't mean there's no control...you watch too many kung movies. when it comes to real pole fighting, there's no more whirling...

[faranox]

I understand, I just prefer using shorter polearms, and more aggressively. With a longer stick, my techniques are out the window.

[leungchaan]

true; a long pole is harder to control than a shorter one. but if you would experience the massive power that philipp is able to generate with the longpole by just moving the tip of the pole for about some inches, you would understand, that it is by far agressive enough to break a forearm.

[leungchaan]

the longpole is not just longer, but also a lot heavier than a usual pole. so if you perform the form of the longpole, you train the muscles of your arms, your back, your legs and around your hip in a certain way that no weightlifting can do. it improves your structure, your stance and your punches.

[leungchaan]

so training with a longpole in combination with wallbag and heavy bag is the only way to develop the power you need for a short-arm boxing system like ving tsun. otherwise your short punches will always lack the power to really knock somebody out.

[faranox]

I see. Thank you, that's all very interesting.

[turnerm33]

that is 100 percent true ! thumbsup

[leungchaan]

trainierst du bei philipp? ;-)

[turnerm33]

yessir :))

[spartanwarrior1]

lol spittlelicker.

[imadeulol]

plz, poles r not like swords

[ZyeMoon]

Kgledhill, please count the sounds. I hear more than Two.

[turnerm33]

and waddaya wanna tell us withat statement? this is a beginners basic exercise , not to be misunderstood as real combat ! you would not be able to listen any pole sound in real combat against philipp cause he knocks you down quicker than the speed of light :))

[croatia2carbon]

juhuu!! von freitag bis sonntag ist philipp hier in düsseldorf. Das wird bestimmt ein tolles seminar. Un nicht nur philipp kommt sondern auch noch leute aus england, belgien,schweiz ,holland usw.

[leungchaan]

gratuliere, engelzwelz! wünsche dir viel erfolg und spass beim erlernen

des ving tsun...direkt bei philipp...*schnüff*... ich beneide dich...;-)

[turnerm33]

freut mich dass du angefangen hast ! hoffe wir sehn uns dann auch mal in Menorca . morgen geht es für ne woche dahin : training pur und sonne :)) gruss,

[turnerm33]

schaut einfach mal regelmässig auf philipp´s seite (philippbayerdotcom) dort werden immer ein paar kleine schmankerl veröffentlich , grade neu trainingsimpressionen wo ihr einige schöne aktionen sehen könnt !

[Belgam21]

mehr von philipp, biiiiiiiiitttttteeeee.; man bekommt auf youtube (was VT betrift) bald nur müll zu sehn. Greats to all WSL guys around the world

[croatia2carbon]

Es gibt nur ein unterschied ich bin auch 15 aber trainiere schon 2 jahre denn stil. ich habe vorher auch noch einen anderen gemacht aber der war ein witz dagegen.

[croatia2carbon]

woher kommt ihr denn alle . Ich trainiere auch unter Philipp.aber ich komme aus Düsseldorf.und Engelzwelz du hast deine letzte nachricht vor einem monat geschrieben, hast du jetzt angefangen.

[turnerm33]

tu das , in deinem alter wirst du in 3-5 jahren richtig gut werden können. dann biste 20 und hast dein ganzes leben vor dir um es zu perfektionieren - echt ich beneide dich darum !!!

[chrysostomou1]

this is quality expression of pole

[leungchaan]

@engelwelz:

wie alt bist du? ich nehme an, wenn du ins gymnasium gehst (bzw.

quali dafür kriegen möchtest), noch relativ jung...

wenn ich in menden wohnen würde und jung wäre wie du, würde

ich alles unternehmen, um bei philipp so oft wie möglich trainieren

zu können. nur so hast du die chance, das system relativ komplett

zu lernen und (noch in diesem leben) richtig gut zu werden...

grooz, leungchaan.

[wodanowitz]

Da hast du aber vollkommen Recht. So ein Glück muss man beim Schopfe packen, also engelwetz, nichts wie ran ans training!

[wodanowitz]

aber aber engelzwetz, ving tsun ist doch die Schule des Lebens ;-)

[turnerm33]

Du wohnst in Menden ? dann mach dich ma schnellstens auf den Weg in die Wulffstr. Mensch wenn ich so nahe an Philipp dran sein könnte ich würde täglich dort trainieren!!!

[turnerm33]

What you see is a beginner´s exercise . Fighting with the Pole indeed loks alot different (when Philipp does). Everybody who would like to know about his skills can visit Philipp Bayer aks someone like Desmond Spencer who comes to train from London to Menden/Germany why he takes such a long way ?

greets , Mike

[Gwohsau]

The Luk Dim Boon Kwan should not make two sounds.

[axlegreen]

And from what I've seen, the long pole never making is primarily a WT concept, though possible other systems use the same idea.This guy is a VT guy so does his differently.Though in WT Bui Tse concepts use the idea of destroying everything you touch,if the opponent changes the range after the intial concept, why not destroy his ability to use the pole while you have the chance before closing the range for the kill?

[Gwohsau]

Mr.Axlegreen,I have nothing against Mr. Bayer my observation is on the pole use displayed in the clip... perhaps you have not heard of the Kuen Kuit?....my suggestion before you comment is to read it. To understand what I am talking about and what the relevant portion of the Kuen Kuit and How WSL taught it...perhaps see one of Wong's Hong Kong students ie...Ng CHun Hong or Koo Kin do the pole ;-) Best of luck in your training.

[leungchaan]

well, your skills must be superior then, huh, tubedydeck?

philipp bayer is one of the most skilled ving tsun masters

out there. he's a student of wong shun leung, who learned

directly from yip man...so i suggest, you challenge him with

a longpole, since you're such an expert.

but tell me, if you do so, i'll tape it for you...

[axlegreen]

Dude thats harsh!!I You'd condem him to taking a long pole to the throat just because of his ignorance of whats going on here?!

[leungchaan]

well, i just can't stand keyboard-warriors, who believe, they

can lambast something they don't know s**t about.

it may not look fancy, or elegant, but that's not what it's all about.

people are just too biased, because they watch too many well choreographed kung fu flicks. they fall for the looks...

[tubedydeck]

I lol'd... the funniest thing I've seen today. Huge lack of skills makes watching the video worthwhile

[shocksi2]

Endlich mal was von Philipp. Wurde auch mal Zeit ;)

[LorenzEric]

Ein schönes Video wo Philipp die Basic´s zeigt.

Live ist das alles viel besser

Gruß Eric

[muratti24]

please mor from Philip Bayer