Great vid, i knew most the drivers on shropshire link.
i think its fair to say EMB 367S wasnt EMB 367S when Bought by "So an So" i can remember it as EMB 361S in North Western livery a mix of Red Blue and Yellow, unless Shropshire Link had 2 Gardner fitted ex NW nationals
they had 4 nationals 2 of thm were cardner fitted one was an ex arriva midlands either 883 or 890
the ex crosville one in the video had in identity swap i think it was purely done as a favourite of the drivers involved, credit to their livery application.
But this footage was from quite a few years ago yes? seeing that The Cottage (old) has been demolished and they're rebuilding what's there now in Knighton.
Nice footage but hope not to meet the driver coming the other way ;0)
Fantastic, not what I'd expect to see on Youtube - thank you. I used to live near in Bucknell and know this route well (as a passenger). Those bends in the village really are too narrow! And the reversing onto the potholes at the Tyndings (listen for the sheep) could only happen in deepest Shropshire!
It's definately a gardner, Crosville converted quite a few nationals. most worked pretty well,but some of the early ones were a little low geared, we had one at runcorn for a while that would only do 30-35 absolutely flat out.
Personally i have no interest in horses (like you have) but hey, if we were all the same it'd be a boring place. Leave us to our buses and you to your horses and we might one day get world peace (Yeah right!!!!)
We had a couple of former Crosville Gardner engined Mk 1 Nationals at Runcorn while it was North Western, always remember them being nippy pulling away, and also very clunky if you didn't get the gear change quite right, more so than Leyland engined ones. This video brought back a lot of good memories. GREAT..
its a gadner your supposed to drive them flat out, if you didnt you wouldnt get any where, and as for the clunking propshaft, probably the gears knocking in with a bit too much force thats all, nothing to do with the driver
Leyland National is my favourite kind of bus in the world, this one is a cracker! The guy driving the bus also knows exactly what he is doing, the bus is obviously a semi auto and he is correctly pausing between changes. Brilliant!
Strange..just wondering where the radiator is placed, if it's Gardner-engined. Mk2's had it in the front, but this beauty is a Mk1 and sounds very much Leyland-engined. Lovely video anyway! Just wishing that the guys treated the old girl a little easier..
The radiator on Mk1 Nationals was located on the offside rear, you can see the grille and through it you could see the fan rotating. The radiator on Mk2's was at the front.
Lots of propshaft clunk here and there.. remember with hydro or pneumo-cyclic boxes... out of gear and count to 3 then into gear. Apart from that an impressive spirited drive.
that's got a mk2 engine.
kienzel1 5 months ago
That One Sound So Different More Than a Normal One!
chrismcgenius 9 months ago
is it leyland national mk 3 or normal leyland national
StuartCC1985 1 year ago
@StuartCC1985 Normal early national
salopia 1 year ago
Flat out 35mph I take it. Two speed transmission and low ratio final drive. Correct me if I am wrong.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
remember that beast well!
eorkob 2 years ago
It reminds me of the leyland natinals dodds of troon used to have and they were in a similar livery.
britishtransport 2 years ago
Great vid, i knew most the drivers on shropshire link.
i think its fair to say EMB 367S wasnt EMB 367S when Bought by "So an So" i can remember it as EMB 361S in North Western livery a mix of Red Blue and Yellow, unless Shropshire Link had 2 Gardner fitted ex NW nationals
salopiangrowler 3 years ago
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M374EVL 2 years ago
they had 4 nationals 2 of thm were cardner fitted one was an ex arriva midlands either 883 or 890
the ex crosville one in the video had in identity swap i think it was purely done as a favourite of the drivers involved, credit to their livery application.
salopiangrowler 2 years ago
Most of the country roads in the footage seem too narrow for anything larger than a Transit.
HondaH100A 3 years ago
Nice burble at 0:25. Sounds like a Supermarine Spitfire at takeoff at 0:52.
Yes, coming through Bucknell at 1:33, quite heart stopping indeed for any approaching vehicles.
HondaH100A 3 years ago
But this footage was from quite a few years ago yes? seeing that The Cottage (old) has been demolished and they're rebuilding what's there now in Knighton.
Nice footage but hope not to meet the driver coming the other way ;0)
TrefyJot 3 years ago
Fantastic, not what I'd expect to see on Youtube - thank you. I used to live near in Bucknell and know this route well (as a passenger). Those bends in the village really are too narrow! And the reversing onto the potholes at the Tyndings (listen for the sheep) could only happen in deepest Shropshire!
prontford 3 years ago
Lewis Hamilton, eat your fucking heart out.
TRAV5149 3 years ago 5
Eh?
volvomantom 3 years ago
According to the DVLA this bus is unlicensed, having been last taxed in 2006. Not on a SORN.
Oh dear...:(
volvomantom 3 years ago
Thanks for the info
salopia 3 years ago
where is it now
rwwpro 3 years ago
Love this Bus
Cherylsbabe 3 years ago
What a classic bus and that engine is one of a kind SUPERB!!
noe604r 3 years ago
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M374EVL 3 years ago
Top vid, especially at 3:26 and 3:29.Excellent!
speedbird76 4 years ago
sounded to me like the 0.680 engine
jaggass 4 years ago
It's definately a gardner, Crosville converted quite a few nationals. most worked pretty well,but some of the early ones were a little low geared, we had one at runcorn for a while that would only do 30-35 absolutely flat out.
national1075 4 years ago
I must admit thats what I thought too- sounds a lot like a 680 engined leopard. I dont know enough to argue about it tho
mrspivvy 4 years ago
Bets buses ever
CrazyStingbee 4 years ago
does anyone still run these now?
mrspivvy 4 years ago
Great video.
I always remember Nationals being noisy as hell.
Lovely sound though, and great to see this example looking so good.
Keighley Bus Museum have just taken delivery of what I think is a MK1 National in need of restoration, but it's looking promising.
volvomantom 4 years ago
excellent video very different i love it :-)
arrivayorkshire 4 years ago
Love the sound of it
megdome 4 years ago
Why do u film buses? whats the point? - no offence... just curious. They just seem like an odd thing to be passionate about... buses?...
flashdancepoppy 4 years ago
Ignore the bus and enjoy the countryside
salopia 4 years ago
@salopia ignore the countryside and enjoy the bus!
kienzel1 5 months ago
Why shouldn't we...
fordgt90 4 years ago
never said u shouldnt
flashdancepoppy 4 years ago
Personally i have no interest in horses (like you have) but hey, if we were all the same it'd be a boring place. Leave us to our buses and you to your horses and we might one day get world peace (Yeah right!!!!)
speedbird76 3 years ago
We had a couple of former Crosville Gardner engined Mk 1 Nationals at Runcorn while it was North Western, always remember them being nippy pulling away, and also very clunky if you didn't get the gear change quite right, more so than Leyland engined ones. This video brought back a lot of good memories. GREAT..
national1075 4 years ago
ooooooh kinky
speedfreak111 4 years ago
its a gadner your supposed to drive them flat out, if you didnt you wouldnt get any where, and as for the clunking propshaft, probably the gears knocking in with a bit too much force thats all, nothing to do with the driver
TheMillFairfield 4 years ago
It's a pretty characteristic roaring, quite unique...I still remember
jomachado 5 years ago
I loved this. Im a big fan of nationals too, that gardner seems to have made it quite sprightly
mrspivvy 5 years ago
Leyland National is my favourite kind of bus in the world, this one is a cracker! The guy driving the bus also knows exactly what he is doing, the bus is obviously a semi auto and he is correctly pausing between changes. Brilliant!
themanmaschine 5 years ago
nice countryside unusual place for a Mk1 National
380414 5 years ago
Strange..just wondering where the radiator is placed, if it's Gardner-engined. Mk2's had it in the front, but this beauty is a Mk1 and sounds very much Leyland-engined. Lovely video anyway! Just wishing that the guys treated the old girl a little easier..
Rekku9 5 years ago
When I made this film I worked for Shropshire Link and I know it had a Gardner engine
salopia 5 years ago
diff a gardner engine, and it was't the oldest we had there was it roger, them were the days ah,, lol
GLOBETROTTER460 2 years ago
The radiator on Mk1 Nationals was located on the offside rear, you can see the grille and through it you could see the fan rotating. The radiator on Mk2's was at the front.
Lynxboy252 5 years ago
Lots of propshaft clunk here and there.. remember with hydro or pneumo-cyclic boxes... out of gear and count to 3 then into gear. Apart from that an impressive spirited drive.
nightfire620 5 years ago