Gays SUE Methodist Church for not performing a Gay Marriage!!

[Lunabeam1]

@Landotter1 Prop 8 was over turned. So either they Marry the couple or face charges. They lost the case and must pay. Don't you just hate democracy! If you just gay marriage be legal maybe they can get a wiccan handfasting aka pagan marriage and leave churches alone. since you wanna bitch freedom of religion and church and state

[Landotter1]

Judgement is unconstitutional. The state cannot tell the church what to do (freedom of religion) (seperation of church and state) The church does not believe in homosexuality. It is written as a sin. To force clergy to marry homosexuals, goes against their religious morals and doctrine thus such verdict is unconstitutional. The state or federal government just threw the constitution out the window. When that happens, we have anarchy.

[StopBashBackHate]

We know how Jesus responded when the sinners used God's house for their pleasures and profits... no different.

[baptistorganist]

I plead the blood of jesus right now! I call outthe spirit of perversion right now! Devil you are a liar!

[truemirror]

how could the gays win when there is freedom of religion, why don't the the gays start their own religion or chapels to be married in, it's not right for them to take away the freedom of religion from another American, I've never been to a church that didn't welcome gays, but if they don't like what is practiced or preached than they should go to a different church, not change someones religion, someones relationship with their God, silly judge.

[kvjhedfbv]

Gays are very intolerant of people that are different from them!

[inquiry10]

It really should not surprise me that people who claim to believe the bible and its laws would willingly ignore them and LIE about the facts of this case.

For ! this marriage was not on church grounds it was a gazebo owned by the state that was allowed to be used by the church with the understanding that all would be allowed to use it for any event.

The church was sued because they then decided to bar a gay couple from having there marriage ceremony there.

Tell the truth or shut up.

[yesonprop8]

Our family stood on a street corner holding YES ON PROP 8 signs and most drivers were supportive, honked, whatever to show support, but this one car, a pick up truck comes barreling through and the man shouts out the window "BOOOO!"

The kids recognized the man as their school teacher.

Too bad we have these liberals teaching our kids at school.

[rustyeels]

Sodom and Gomorah will burn just like before. It's just a matter of time. Let these faggs run their big mouth all they want. It won't be too much longer.

[Foolsnightmare]

Can I get an actual record of this case? I can't find it any where except here.

[BrenMan94]

I don't see why gay marriage should be legalised nation wide. Sure, there are a lot of homosexuals in America, but the majority of voters in the US do disaprove of gay rights.

Even in California gay marriage was banned, I suppose this says something about America's morals.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'd be perfectly fine in homosexual couples having certain benefits, but marriage is a bondage between a man and a woman done so under God. Benefits are NOT.

+ Gay Benefits

- Gay Marriage

[hertzogger]

but the majority of voters in the US do disaprove of gay rights.

well majority disaproves against the rights the gays pursue. you cant deny them a right they never had. gay marriage is not a right.

[mormonanswerman]

95% reported.

YES has 52%

NO has 48%

glad its over. now can we all remain tolerant of the winners of this epic battle? The people have spoken. 10,000,000 have spoken.

[mormonanswerman]

WHY do gays always compare their situation with the blacks and slavery? Makes NO sense.

The blacks HAD freedom in Africa before they were stolen away and their freedom was stolen.

The gays?

They never had marriage, and it certainly was not taken away. They are trying to change things. History is not on their side, like it WAS for the blacks!

[canihaveaquarter]

And women never had the right to vote........

[Bluedragon094]

Because the issues that went along with blacks and slavery wasn't just about slavery but about CIVIL LIBERTIES, a notion you'd get through that thick skull of yours should you bother to actually go to a fucking college.

That said, as canihaveaquarter mentioned, women never had the right to vote within the constitution EITHER! If it's necessary to have it first before hand, then why do women get to vote today?

You're full of VENOMOUS shit.

[LOVEEET]

anyone living in Downey or paramount or even lakewood area ....URGENT MESSAGE TYPE IN

javi104 AND you will see the men stealing your prop 8 signs!!! They also give there full names if you want to call the police

[mms67c]

Why you guy always want to bring out "hate" to make people give in? I don't hate people of what they are but I do hate people of what they DO. I do think that single parent is not a good idea, polygamy is not good, adultery is not good but at least these things aren't teaching at school. You are the one the really HATE people of what they are. I can see all of your hatred by calling people "NAMES" and "LABELS".

[iceblinkjm]

Fake christians is what you folks are. This is a non issue when children are starving and wars cover our world. You guys are idiots and by the grace of God I hope this ballot fails.

[Permaglo]

With all the stupid, frivolous lawsuits occuring everyday, why is anyone surprised by this one? A couple of idiots don't speak for everyone.

Gays should have the right to legally marry and churches should have the right to deny them a ceremony in their sanctuary. Just like students should feel free to pray, just not over the P.A. system.

Unfortunatly people, even gays, forget the importance of equal rights. However, churches have been dishing it out for years, can't they take it?

[mms67c]

But reality is praying is banned at public school already and soon homosexuality will be taught in kindergarten without even get the consent of the parents. Lawsuits occur everyday and it'll just have more against the church once the gay-marriage is legalized.

[Permaglo]

Praying silently by yourself is NOT banned in public school. If a school has a rule against that then they are breaking the law. PUBLIC praying is banned, and for good reason. If you allow Christians to use the P.A. for morning prayer, you then must open it up to the Hindus, Muslims, and every other religion.

What exactly do you mean by "teach" homosexuality? Do you mean taking kids to a gay pride parade or simply mentioning that gays exist?

[mms67c]

I do open up to Hindus, Muslims and other religion cos' I do believe everyone has his/her own right to pray and worship even in public area.

Why have the school to teach a 5 years old about gay thing? Leave the moral teaching back to their parents. They have no right to take away the parental right of when and how to teach this thing.

[Permaglo]

People do have the right to pray and worship in public, but over the P.A. system is not the place.

So do you believe that kids should be kept ignorant of the existence of gays? That's like saying kids should be kept ignorant of the existence of other countries.

[mms67c]

You call that's ignorant? Should we teach the kids not only to know there's gay but also tell them "if you feel gay is o.k., then you're probably bisexual. Go home and try it and you'll know it won't harm anything"? So that way you assure the gay population will continue to grow?

Vote yes on prop 8.

[Permaglo]

I meant ignorant as "unaware."

Schools, parents, or anyone else shouldn't suggest a child's sexuality ever. That's up to him or her to figure out on their own.

Schools don't suggest students go out and have sex, although they may have condoms or other protection available if teens do decide they want to have sex.

I've never met or known of any homosexual, myself included, that cares at all whether the gay population grows. Gays do however want acceptance of homosexuality to grow.

[mms67c]

I don't see there's why any reason that the homosexuality population need to grow. They can't reproduce, their gay pride parade does harm more than good to the society (full of lust). How about a field trip to the gay pride parade for the 5th graders? And teach the 7th grade about anal sex? Sucks!

Vote Yes on Prop 8

[Permaglo]

Boy you Prop 8 proponents love to mislead people. Suggesting that homosexuals try and "recruit" new gays, that "Homosexuality 101" will be a new requirement for all schools, and that churches will have to shut down - all due to gay marriage.

Maybe you should learn a few TRUTHFUL things about the gays before you go trashing them.

[mms67c]

Yes, the truthful thing I see is the GAY PRIDE PARADE does exist. That's the truth! It's real! The WHOLE world know it! They celebrate Gay with undress, half naked bodies, cross-dressing. I AM NOT LYING. I AM NOT. I SWEAR. How can I trust them to teach my kids???????

[Permaglo]

Have you ever been to a frat party and seen all the crazy things the straight people do there? The thing is, those parties only represent a small percentage of the population. The same is true with gay pride, not all gay people get involved with it. You're judging all gay people by a small percentage of them.

[mms67c]

I don't care any percentage of it but hanging the penis in front of public is disgusting. They have no shame at all. Who knows how many of them in the parade are teachers? I won't surprise if a child say, "there's my teacher!" if you bring your kids there.

[mms67c]

If they leave me alone, leave the kids alone, I'll be more tolerate to them. The parents HAVE to protect their kids. That's their duty as PARENTS. Have you ever seen a 5 years old harass a gay or against gay? SO Can't they just leave them alone and just let them be kids?

[mms67c]

And they celebrate it EVERY YEAR EVERY LOCATION. That's the image and reputation they built to themselves. Don't blame other people of opposing them cos' I don't even know whether they have a BOTTOM LINE or not.

[Permaglo]

So I guess straight people flashing their privates at Mardi Gras is OK then. Personally, I've never seen anyone flashing his dick at a pride parade. The ones I've been to in DC and Los Angeles have actually been kinda boring.

The majority of the sex scandals we've had in recent years involving students and teachers are heterosexuals, not homosexuals. You just want to see all gays as perverts.

[mms67c]

I don't know what is Mardi Gras is about or it is something to celebrate heterosexual? I don't have to go to those gay parade to find out. Just search on you tube yesterday and found that there's men walking naked in that kind of parade. I don't know their background but it's possible that they're teachers, lawyers, any career. Teacher harass students and another issue, not a concept that teach at school.

[Budmax305]

I'd like to know the source of the law suit. Where did you hear of it? Can I see or read anything about it?

[eddiesocket]

You can't see or read anything about it because "yesonprop8" made it up.

[ryukage99]

Secularism is was of the future, better get used to. Or the Religious Left will come drag you kicking and screaming

[yesonprop8]

Do what you will. I'm not moving to the middle on this.

[ryukage99]

Oh what's matter to tired, becuase you can't admit being wrong just like a narcissistic person who hides behind the bible to justify his own needs.

[ryukage99]

Why not sue the church since The Church loves meddle with affairs of the state, Why the State meddle with affairs of the Church.

[yesonprop8]

this is the reason you gays will not win on this. you are minority, and yet you are inflicting real and financial harm on the majority. There will be backlash.

[Justcurious51]

Ah, gays might be the minority. But gay supporters are the majority. At least in California.

[yesonprop8]

got news for you. been making calls, and 70-90% of those called are in FAVOR of a strong YES on Prop 8. But we will not stop, we will increase the effort.

[ryukage99]

You're leaving in a dream world.

[yesonprop8]

we didn't start the fire

[Justcurious51]

Haha. I'll take the field poll over sketchy internet dude's opinion on where california stands on gay marriage. Especially when you give a bs stats like 70-90%.

Me and a group of gay friends, about twenty, all came out this week. The closer a gay person is to you, the more likely you are to support gay marriage. Its just a statistic.

Together, we've changed an entire towns view on gay marriage.

Worse than that, we registered them to vote.

[eddiesocket]

Uh...no. You're lying. Did you just calling your fellow bigot friends? The polling shows %54 to %40 AGAINST Prop 8. You're also lying about this Methodist church being forced to perform a gay wedding. Where are the details? What's the couple's name? What church was it? Who was forced to perform the wedding against his will? You have no details at all, because like all of your kind you are shameless, disgusting, immoral liars.

[Justcurious51]

Oh, I'm going to do all of that. But with my boyfriend.

Why can't I adopt kids with my future husband again?

[Justcurious51]

Because I have a wonderful boyfriend. I'd love to marry when we're old enough.

[yesonprop8]

that sounds so strange to me. so wrong, somehow. just doesn't set well. I mean, I saw your channel, and you should be with a girl as God intended it. have a family. raise some kids in the bonds of matrimony.

[ryukage99]

Another Closeted Case or some insecure guy who can never get laid not even the fat chick would touch you.

[yesonprop8]

Why is it that gays deride the closet cases when if they mean it, he is one of their own?  Why do that, unless its disengenuous...

[ryukage99]

Because you won't listen to reason and step outside of yourself, I dare you to walk a mile in someone else shoes.

[Justcurious51]

Um, its gunna happen. Nothing you can do to change it. Nothing.

[chordboard]

I think that the more the people realize what is actually happening, they will stand up and fight for their rights of worship in their churches.

Why are you so interested in this issue? Are you planning on trying to marry a guy? Why?

[ryukage99]

He's is becuase he's secretly in closet becuase he's so jealous of how gays can have sex and he has to wait until girl can say yes to walking down the aisle.

[yesonprop8]

If I truly was a closet case, why are you so mean to me? its because you know that I am not a closet case, else you would befriend me and coax me out of it.

[ryukage99]

Becuase I want to make you cry, likre you make other cry when you condemn people for being different. I'm just giving you a taste of your own medicine. If you don't like it you can leave Youtube.