Atari St : Sega Enduro racer .

[cp665533]

why why why didnt they use this music on the 128k Spectrum version?? it's awesome compared to that..

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Wow,just wow and you call me a moron, and oh talking about pathetic you are following every video I comment,

You're following me on every video I comment because. isn't that pathetic ?

Someone who is everyday behind his PC because of a debate about VIDEO GAMES. isn't that pathetic ? while he could get a life, living a more happy life with friends not being angry because of video games, you know I should stop with this if I was you, this isn't healthy if you get angry about that.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 And COMPARING TWO THINGS WITH A 5 YEAR GAP IS IDIOTIC BEYOND WORDS, compare a car from world war 2 and a 2011 Ford of course the Ford is better, The C64, ZX spectrum, Amstrad CPC, Amiga are great machines but you're being ignorant showing no respect saying that they pieces of shit because you're a another pathetic console fanboy, I don't give a shit anymore about this If you are actually going to respond then I just ignore you because you're boring, like most morons are.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 You're pathetic, you state you had a Atari ST and MD but from al this dumbass comments I know that you're 12, Not knowing what the difference between a BIT and a BYTE is,Why higher technology become cheaper, And constantly saying "ThE SnEs SHITS on the aMiGa" like the shit is dropping out of your mouth

If you have grown up in the 80's/90's why are you saying those immature stuff like a twelve year old ???

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 watch?v=cP4zuV2szYU you can learn from this...

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Well what the fuck did you expect ? of course the SMS is graphicly better than the C64 and ZX but is on par with the Amstrad CPC.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Deluxe paint wasn't suited with the SMS and Neo Geo, the Turbo graphics 16 wasn't very poplair in western country's so Im not sure if western developers ever made a TG16 game with DP.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 the majority of Amiga, Atari ST, Megadrive, SNES and IBM pc games created using deluxe paint, most of the games in 80's are a bit rough on the edges because developers where learning the ins and outs of the Atari ST and of course the lazy direct ports from ST to Amiga but Demo groups at the time such as Wild copper showed what the Amiga could do, but the games on the ST where still alot better than what was on the ZX spectrum,C64 and NES.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 the Mastersystem was a console that sold well in some parts of europe and Brazil, it wasn't a evolution it did nothing, the mastersystem isn't like remembered for something huge unlike the Commodore 64 which brought Personal Computers into homes.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 thousens of people in the gaming industry lost their job thanks to Nintendo,

The USA gaming industry was fully recovered in 1990 when the Megadrive became popular and the IBM PC became popular for playing games.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Well simply because the NES wasn't released in America untill 1985, actually Nintendo apart of making games popular in the USA didn't save the USA gaming industry, Nintendo has Monopoly the industry doing things like threaten stores if they would carry games for another platfrom that they no longer would sell NES games and developers like that a game on NES may not be on another platfrom or develope for another system that they no long may make/sell NES games,

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Well technology has become more advanced

and higher mem cartridges has become more affordable at the time.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Wait, you're saying that that famicom with the SG 1000 has prevented the Atari debacle in the USA without being there ? oke but with that saying about the preventing the 83 crash in europe the Commodore 64 and the ZX spectrum are released in 1982 and another popular PC, the Atari 8 bit has been released in 78, in 83 the ZX & C64 were heavily supported by software houses (with alot of just born) in europe so with games being cheaper there have never been something close like a crash.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 The famicom was released in japan in 1983, but the NES wasn't released in North American till 1985.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 F-Zero used mode 7 very well for its gameplay but what I mean is that Mode 7 in 70% SNES games were only used to show the developer's logo in a pretty way or used some very weird glitchy pixelated fade in effect like in Super Mario World when entering a stage (Never understand why developers trough it looked nice).

[janmansde3dede]

(thrid part) and included them in their machines like the Atari ST and C64, Sinclair made a cartridge add on for the ZX spectrum but as I mention earlier due to the price of cartridge games and that you could get the same game for the thrid of the price they all failed.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 which cost 10 euro's !, not only that the NES came way to late, it was very outdated, the Atari ST was already out with lots of success and the Amiga 500 was coming around the corner so it was a no brainier which two machine to consider as your next machine, the NES gave no significant upgrade to previous machines like the C64&CPC464 so it was a commercial failure thus having a much smaller user base than the C64. cartridges seemed by many companies great back in the day.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Two reasons, one being it was market as "Why would you let your kids brains rot with computer games when you can get something that help ther homework and learn programming" garenteerd success...

So susessful that it prevented the video game crash of 83 ever happing here in Europe !, So with three years of being a incredible success, when the NES came in 87 it was barely any better than the C64 from 82 with the same games (ex donkey kong) costing 30 euro's compared to a floppy game!

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Well of course when you give a license to 16 year old programmers who act like they where gaming developing veterans, thats why true Experience Amiga programmers have to make ther own versions under a different name (Street fighter 2 \ Shadow fighter), and ever saw the NES port of Toki ? after that check out the Commodore 64 version....

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Very sad that you are going to compare two machines with 10 year gap between them, and yet the professional models the 3000 + 4000 has 3D polygon modelers and yes, deluxe paint V is superior than Mario artist, actually do you know that 75% of games between 1986-1996 were created using Deluxe paint ? it was almost the defacto standard paint program !

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 It was, just because consoles sold more than PC's doesn't mean they were failures, the C64 for example didn't come close to the NES went it comes to sales yet the most successful PC of all time and was a lot more popular in Europe than the NES.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 The A600 was a weird machine, it offered less, was smaller and it was still more expensive than the A500, it was bad received by the press and went fast of the market, and 8.25% isn't a lot for a 1987 machine.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Have of those games only used it once or only for show, SMRGP especially I can't remember using Mode 7 so great, and yes I have mentioned the game, gave the video address and when it showed it but apparently you ignore it because Im right, the Amiga can do better scaling and rotation better than the SNES.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Again with a harddrive you never needed to swap games.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Yes and the Amiga was a massive suscess in the home computer market in Europe only, only as a professonal graphics/programming/ video production computer in America (Sega used Amiga's to develope megadrive and satrun games, and ID for Doom & quake) and in japan it was ignored due to nationlisem so lets only compared the suscess that was made in Europe oke ?

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Delux paint is professonal and thus has alot more options that mario paint doesn't have, mario paint is a nice simple/basic drawing/ animation program but you can't do a lot more and do something useful with your work.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 FOR GODS SAKE, /watch?v=7GHoqRscnOk

and go to 0:50:59, there Mode 7 easly done on the Amiga, Mode 7 is a weak graphics mode where you can have ONE background layer to be rotated and scaled, if you go to 1:32:56 you will see that the Amiga shits all over the SNES's mode 7, yeah having so many disks was a problem for some genra's like one on one fighters but 2 or 3 disks are no problem at all, mostly with 2 disks the frist has only copy protection and the title screen.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Sure cowaredly compare to internation systems and add them togeter, about 65% of european gamers where playing Amiga games at the time and were is your source ? And if cartridges where so much better then woep di do go buy a cake and celebrate it with your nonexisting friends you've been taking this incredible serious, go outside and get a fresh breath of air, and stop being pathetic comparing gaming systems with a 3-5 year gap between them.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 You don't seem to get it, there doens't exits a 4-6 Megabyte cartridge only Megabits cartridges on the SNES and MD, a byte is 8 bits, a Amiga floppy has 880 kiloBYTES so cartridges do not shit on disks but themselves and you've been screaming how great CD's are in comparison with floppy disks however they also have to load and Amiga\ST owners with a hard drive didn't have to wait for any games to load (which take 3-6 amazing seconds).

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 compare mario paint to Deluxe paint and varius mod trackers... of course CD games are better but come on you're obious a fanboy here, you're doing everying in your path to bash the Amiga & Atari ST,even tracking my recent comments, the SEGA CD was just as the A570aCommercial failure, but I wasn't tailking about games only and the A570 isn't the only Amiga CD drive out there back then.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 And again you can easy get a CD Drive for every Amiga computer. if you want to continue to entertain me by all means fill my inbox and this video by spamming your hate of the Amiga & Atari ST as it clearly sounds like you're jealous that you didn't had one back in the day and now your bashing it to show that you had the "better machine, you can't compared a PC to a Console, a PC is 50X more value/entertaining even if the MD was better what can you could do beside playing games ?

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 And way to go, you have your ill fated Sega CD add on with a lot of FMV games that with the megadrive more cost than a Amiga 500 and the Amiga can easly do those effects, it isn't called 10 years ahead for nothing, the Demo scene proved that the Amiga can do scaling & rotation and in the game "Mr.nutz" there are such amazing scaling effects that could not be done on a SNES and not on a MDCD without slow downs and Stardust shows also great rotation.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 In a CDTV bundel C= even included a Floppy drive, also you're bullshitting you know nothing about the real cause of commodore's death the CD32 was a success, not a huge by any means and the reason that it sold less is because it wasn't available in america due a lawsuite or such and it had only a 1 year life.

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 shut up your clearly a fanboy and yo know nothing about graphics, the graphichs on the speccy were greater!

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 What ? yeah sure, we PC users were using cartridges instead of floppy disk's in the 90's....  cartridges killed Floppy disk's (sarcasm)

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 speccy did all them better and you diddnt have to pay silly prices for them either!

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Oh and about the "Mb" thing, they have 4-6 megabytes, a megabyte is 150 KB, a Amiga floppy is 880 KB so two floppy's easily beat chariges or whatever you spell them..

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 here are some other things the Amiga is better at,

Higher resolution (CA 320X256, SNES's 228X228)

at the time the SNES came out Amiga's came with 1MB RAM (1000kb)

The Amiga can play sound samples over 200 kb (SNES 64kb

The Amiga can draw Polygons unlike the SNES

those are some things at top of my head that Amiga's better at,

But Im not saying that the SNES is lame or such of course, if you prefer the SNES that's 100% fine with me,

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 the Amiga did sell less because it is a Personal computer of course ! the Commodore 64 selled 32 million worldwide and it si the best selling PC of all time and the NES about 60 million .

that sega sold 13 million only is laughably for a Console. the Amiga was way more successful than the MS.

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 sega were incapable of recreating their own games!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 i gave valid reasons, your just hiding behind textbook, never try to be a critique, you will fail! 

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 err i gave very valid reasons why the speccy was greater than the master system, you seem to have selective reading, your boring me now!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 give me a c64 over a crappy mastersystem anyday, like i said we got rid of that piece of shit for a c64!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 your just a textbook fanboy, give me an amiga over those empty boxes any day of the week, i like to play california games with 6 events and not just 5, people with consoles had piss all games, their just games machines nothing more!

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 we knew the MS was there but nobody brought it, because who in the right mind would buy a 200 euro 8 BIT console with games going over 50 euros when we can buy a 16 BIT Personal Computer for 500 euros with games going for little as 5 €, 20 € for the great games like from elite & rainbow arts/ factor 5.

[janmansde3dede]

@JasonLee215 Not on the Atari, but if a port was impossible on a Amiga then you could forget a port on the MS,TG-16 and SNES. The Amiga has 1MB ram standard when the MD was released in Europe and has a awesome Resolution of 320 X 256, the Amiga trumps over the SNES & MD having the best of both worlds,

about the Speccy, Cassetts were preferred over cartridges because of the low price and the MS was around 1996 because of SEGA foolishly keep trowing money at it, it was like the PSP nowadays.

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 yes and look at the price difference between the 2 games! master systems were shit, i swapped mine for a c64 and i was well happier!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 yes but that wasnt the initial argument, and i would still have an amiga over any 16 bit console!

[rainxxxx]

@rainxxxx speccys were better than mastersystems was the original argument, and speccy wins!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 your drifting, and i would of rather still had an st or an amiga over those consoles!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 yes but your comparing 16bit consoles that were designed to play games to an 8 bit computer, now your just being silly!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 whats that got to do with the price of meat?

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 speccy managed to replicate it as best they could, unlike the little blackbox!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 does not explain the other games i mentioned, even the megadrive wimped out on thunderblade which was why they called it "super" thunderblade so they could get away with the overhead 3d conversion which the sinclair still managed, LOL at consoles!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 the usgold version replicated the arcade conversion where as the megadrive was a shitty platform game, did not have the balls to try and replicate it, its easier to cop out on a platform game than try to go for the REAL conversion!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 well i named 3 just then , your so retarded you cant even count, plus there are many more!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 err yes i did see previous posts fanboy, thunderblade, enduro, MJMW, i could go on and on but because your too retarded to read, its only your own fault!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 typical console fanboy, ive seen plenty of speccy games that put that empty box piece of shit to shame!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 big deal, sinclair started it all off, sinclair still crapped over the mastersystem!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 spectrum did what the master system diddnt have the balls to do and that was replicate the game as it was meant to be played, so go put your stats book away, dont mean anything!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 LOL so you admit they had hardware limitations, the speccy managed to do it along with the other bits yet the MS could not cope with it properly and you think it was superior to the speccy? LMAO !!!!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 that even kills your argument even more then, why the cop out conversions for master system?

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 you've still not answered the above question, and half of those games in your list are not as good as the speccy conversions!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 its shits all over it in general, any YOU have yet to explain why the master system does a cowardly conversion of some of their games eg thunderblade, enduro racer, MJ moonwalker...

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 the master system chip in general is just shit and weak, speccy is better, especially 128k

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 st games were ported from the amiga, so st's used to get a raw deal, i'm not saying that st games would be better than the amiga if their games were both written for their own platforms from scratch

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 computers were better than consoles in my eyes they were a lot more versatile, more games, cheaper games, i was crying on the inside

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 you did right with the commodore 64, that was a brilliant machine, i suppose amiga was the better choice over the st, but getting a megadrive (i did this) to make up for the st (which i sold) was a bad move!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 amigas were more popular and it was less of a hassle

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 err if you were looking for quality and faithfulness the you would realise the speccy wins, look at thunderblade for the MS, i'm sure i pointed this out but i willl do it again just for you, thunderblade wasnt even a proper conversion for SMS, the chopper never played in 3d, it just stuck in the air like a normal shooter, spectrum replicated the original, spectrum wins that hands down, enduro racer (again just for you) was another non faithful conversion for the MS, it was a

[rainxxxx]

diagonal scroller, do you see the speccy with a verion of its own? no, it was an arcade original conversion, those games that you see on the MS thunderblade and enduro racer are not arcade conversions, infact their different games just using the same name, LOOK at a game before you speak about it

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 well i think that is the best way to tell which is better, by LISTENING to them, something you seem to fail on doing when you reply to these posts, LISTEN, READ, UNDERSTAND, until you can do those things shut up!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 you dont read very well do you? thunderblade and enduro racer were not even proper conversions of the arcade, their practically different games exept they use the same titles, the sinclair version along with other 8 bit conversions were far greater than the mastersystem's!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 so? the graphics on the spectrum are far greater than the sega, colour or no colour!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 my ears dont tell lies!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 so? if thats the case, mastersystem should be heaps better, but it isnt!

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 if you read the posts i have just made, that explains it all

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 err your falling into the same dumb trap as most other people do, graphics isnt all about colour, its about drawings, look at thunderblade, mastersystem couldnt even handle the conversion properly, they kept the first level as purley a sky shooter instead of a 3d shooter, look at enduro racer, they copped out and gave a diagonal racer instead of a first person, the master system is pityful to to the sinclar!

[SuperGonggong]

@JasonLee215 hey wanker!!!! your father sucked my nigger balls for four hours, and was Left 4 head,!!!!!!! You like it? I have a lot of friends because im not a pervert unlike some wankers on youtube.

[JasonLee215]

SuperGonggong

hey troll go back to your cave because that is where you

belong they should put boulders at entrance of the cave

that way you can't escape hopefully you die of starvation

[SuperGonggong]

@JasonLee215 nope, Im not the one stalking people on youtube that they knew from Xbox, but yeah how did you find me? I must ask it made me laugh quite a bit, not to mention you smeared your shit on my wall, and wrote me love letters personally, Im not sure but I think im going to message a sweet girl 10 and ask if she wants to suck my dick. And I have many friends, because I like to be normal, and remember the name asiangurllover57? well it speaks for itself loner...

[rainxxxx]

@JasonLee215 the reason for that is because the games were coded for the amiga first then ported over to the st, if they were written for the st first, you would realise the st's capabilities, however, the sound chip on the st was shit!

[bobbystar101]

@JasonLee215 or up to 512 with palette switching on standard fm...

Yes on par very much so.

[bobbystar101]

@JasonLee215 depends what game...

Some games were poorly coded on ST and vice versa.

The ST is capable of graphics that are basically on par with the amiga. This cannot be disputed.

[bobbystar101]

@JasonLee215 barely. amiga graphics were hardly much better..

[markhez2]

nice game music!!!

[SPeacock]

The Atari ST has the same sound chip as the 128K ZX Spectrum and Amstrad CPC computers (not sure if the Sega Master System has it) - the AY 3 8912 PSG (Programmable Sound Generator) - so the music on all these systems sound very similar :)

[rainxxxx]

@SPeacock you will find the sound on the mastersystem pityful, its not the same as the 128x speccy, need i remind everyone that the 128k speccy shits all over the mastersystem!

[SPeacock]

@rainxxxx Except for graphics.

[rainxxxx]

@SPeacock its the graphix that i was refering to, the sinclair graphics shit all over the mastersystem!

[trophy242]

That was one of my favourites back in time, when I was a kid. Moreover, it was my Mother's favourite game and she used to play with us. She was very good, but didn't complete the game. I don't know why she liked this game?! There are hundreds of others, maybe more suitable for mothers to like. Even today it makes me amazed. Thanks to that I have so many good memories connected with this game. Great music and gameplay!

[LMC0010]

I love this game.i played it with friends years ago and its still one of my favorites.Best version and best music!

[dvamateur]

It sounds like 8-bit sound to me. Which is not bad in anyway. Actually totally opposite, I love 8-bit sound. I believe the Falcon 030 had 16-bit sound, but there wasn't too many application anymore to take advantage of it. Good old days. i used to have a 1040STe and I gave it away. I was a complete idiot to do that...

[bobbystar101]

@dvamateur Well crucially there is aniplayer (where you can play 320kbit mp3 and movies on a non upgraded machine!)

You might have been a bit of an idiot but my mum was the complete idiot who dumped my st and boxes of original games in the tip :'(

Oh well I bought another one when I got a paper round.

[MagikGimp]

I never did understand how it's possible to do a handstand while doing a wheelie.

[York3]

Oh my... The memories...

My uncle had this and we played it all the time...

[blazinsnake007]

I like the music out of that game. Maybe you can make more videos out of that atari version. 5 out of 5!

[Schnitz1]

Atari = Best version! =)