i caanot understand why is he doing this shits like conference or something like that about THERAPY to people if he doesnt have the license of doing that... maybe he has some co-workers that they do his work
@candiceevans1 no, you are stupid. If you equate two women or two men marrying to animals it just shows that you have the intelligence of a small rodent. And, writing in all caps doesn't make you seem any more intelligent. Why are you so ignorant? You can't distinguish two men or two women from a man and an animal marrying? STUPID! And, I don't care what your "god" calls marriage, it is defined by the government not by your bible. God has been marrying gay couples for decades. Get over it
Why doesn't this lady just shutup,she can't stand that this guy is saying that homosexuals can change there behavior's,this should be proof to all who claim that homosexuals are born this way...if he has changed over 1000 homosexuals to hetro-sexuals that just blows a enourmos hole in the "born that way " theory....
He's based his whole life on announcing the fact that he's living in total self denial. What the hell goes wrong with some people's head's that could make them so screwed up?
Why is it always those folks who don't even have sex, who can't stop thinking and talking about OTHER people and the sex they are having?
Get laid, man (if you can). Stop snooping in other people's bed rooms. Stop speculating about "the sins" they commit. Worry about your own happiness and less about how you can make others miserable in Jesus Name. YOU are ill. Heal thyself, religious nut case! Awake from your narcissistic nightmare and LIVE.
IT IS NOT A CHOICE!!! ANYONE WHO SAYS THIS AND ISN"T GAY SHUT UP AND TALK ABOULT SOMETHING YOU KNOW ABOUT. WHY IN HELL WOULD WE PICK TO BE HATED BY STUPIED IDIOTS
@aehre2 I disagree with this. I think that people who are "fluid" in their sexuality are innately bisexual. Most people are firmly homosexual or heterosexual, not "fluid."
And no amount of Hell fire is going to make someone want something they really want subconsiously. Its worse than even putting a gun to someones head and telling a vegetarian to enjoy eating meat.
@TaneishaRed1990 people who are fluid in their sexuality are just horn dogs who are so desperate they will take sexual release any where they can find it.
Ignorant people like you who condone such abhorrent deviant behaviour only make things worse.
@garysher3 "Physical orientation and sexual orientation are not moral issues, and majority / minority phenomena in nature do not involve natural versus unnatural categories. The exceptional in nature is still natural, whether the exception is left-handedness or the homosexual orientation of erotic desire." D. Michael Quinn, ex-Mormon and former professor at Brigham Young University.
@garysher3 yes, and I think Michael Quinn's opinion is far more evolved and informed than your opinion. It makes sense that if people are born gay, then it isn't a moral issue. Why do you continue to cling to something that makes no sense? If you are born gay, how can this be a moral issue?
@TaneishaRed1990 It makes sense that if people are born gay, then it isn't a moral issue."Are people also born as pedophiles, bestailists, prostitutes, drug addicts or serial killers?
@garysher3 no, this is of no relevance. Being gay hurts nobody. Being a pedophile hurts children. Being into beastiality hurts animals. Prostitutes are not born that way. That's just stupid. The best parallel is that being gay is like being female or black or Asian.
People are not born homosexual nor born heterosexual, people is born with no sexual orientation.
People don't get a sexual orientation till they reach puberty.
If people where born with a sexual orientation it would mean that identical twins that share the same DNA would always share the same sexual orientation, yet there are identical twins where one is homosexual and the other one is heterosexual or bisexual or asexual or zoosexual.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo actually, science has proven you wrong on this. In fact, researchers in Sweden say they will be able to predict sexual orientation BEFORE birth, based on brain size differences between straights and gays. Yes, people "discover" their sexual orientation in puberty, but it was well established by that time. In fact, the most conservative scientists say that sexual orientation is clearly determined by the age of two at the very latest.
"Sweden say they will be able to predict sexual orientation BEFORE birth"←They haven't done that yet.
"In fact, the most conservative scientists say that sexual orientation is clearly determined by the age of two at the very latest."←Without sexual arousal and sex drive there is no sexual orientation. Though the genes or the hormones or the brain difference may be there at a younger age, the person will not become homosexual till puberty and not all homosexuals are set at birth.
@garysher3 actually, YOU are the one who is trying to reverse human wisdom. In fact, homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time alongside heterosexuality. Why do you think it's some kind of "fad" that will one day go away? That's just stupid. Homosexuality clearly serves a function in nature. Whether you can understand it or not, is not my problem, but YOUR problem. Your mind is clearly very narrow and not open.
@garysher3 it amazes me that people can think that they are intelligent, and yet haven't figured out that homosexuality is not a choice, not changeable, and a part of God's plan. It clearly has a function, and a purpose and is not merely a "behavior."
@garysher3 actually, you have it assbackwards. Your question should have been: "why do so many homosexuals hide in heterosexual relationships, and eventually come out of the closet?" VERY, VERY few people "switch" from gay to straight, and in fact, most of them return to a "gay lifestyle" as you call it later on in life. Even those Christian ex-gay groups claim a "success" rate below 30 percent. That's because you cannot change your orientation, only your behavior can change.
@TaneishaRed1990 AA only claims a success rate of 5% for recovery from drug and alcohol abuse. If orientation cannot be changed why don't we lock up pedophiles for life?
@garysher3 again, comparing alcoholism to homosexuality is a ridiculous analogy. Are left handed people in need of "rehabilitation" because they are only five percent of the population?
@garysher3 face it, no matter what you say or do will change the FACT that five percent of the population has always been gay, and always will be gay. It's not a choice, nor is it changeable. Homosexuals have contributed far more to society per capita than have heterosexuals. Some of the greatest people in their fields were gay, and yet they represent only five percent of the population. You clearly display your inferiority complex towards gay people. Get it checked out. NOT healthy.
@garysher3 have you ever wondered why homosexuality has existed in every culture in every time period since recorded time began in roughly the same percentages of the population? Is that a "whim" a "choice" a "fad?" You're an idiot if you think so. Homosexuality exists for a purpose, and I've already educated you about this. Why do you ignore what science teaches us?
@garysher3 homosexuality cannot be compared to disease, any more than you can compare race to disease. That's just stupid. You really are a smartass, aren't you? You have no substance whatsoever, nor science behind your stupid claims. I like people like you, however, because you show the emptiness of your arguments against gays.
@garysher3 in fact, homosexuality serves a function that is equally as valuable to society as heterosexuality. Now, can you tell me why heterosexuals use birth control? If the purpose of sex is to make babies, why would they want to prevent the "purpose" by using birth control? It makes no sense. Clearly, the purpose of sex is pleasure, and procreation is often the unintended and unwanted consequence. I'll remind you that gay people don't have abortions.
@TaneishaRed1990 heterosexuals use birth control so they can respond to natural and crucial human instincts yet still control when those behaviours result in conception.
Homosexual sex can never result in conception because it ts deviant abd purposeless
@garysher3 no, heterosexuals use birth control because they want to enjoy sex for its primary purpose, which is PLEASURE. Now, tell me that men visit prostitutes to have babies, right? Sure, whatever...
@garysher3 yes, homosexual sex can never result in conception, now you are finally UNDERSTANDING the PURPOSE of homosexuality. I think we're on to something now. THIS is the reason homosexuality exists in nature, and why some sheep won't breed with opposite sex. Ask any sheep farmer, and he'll tell you that some sheep only mate with their own gender.
@garysher3 this is not rocket science. It's quite easy to understand, really. Nature has created homosexuality as a way to preserve the species. It will therefore always serve a function in nature, and will never disappear. A certain percentage of the human and animal population is born gay, and you CANNOT change this. Get over it. Move on, get a life, grow up.
@garysher3 necrophilia and zoophilia are not sexual orientations, stupid. In fact, those are considered something completely different, just as polygamy is different. Nobody is born a zoophile or necrophiliac. Why do you continue to ignore science? Is your mind so closed? Science teaches us that homosexuality exists for a PURPOSE, just as heterosexual exists for a purpose. Science also teaches us that it's not a choice and is not possible to change. Grow up, and accept science.
@TaneishaRed1990 necrophilia and zoophilia are not sexual orientations, stupid. In fact, those are considered something completely different,"
Really? How convenient for you to pick and choose which sexual deviances are acceptable and have been validated by your mysterious "science" to have a purpose!
@garysher3 yes, I repeat, since you didn't get it the first time: being a necrophiliac or zoophile is not a sexual orientation. You cannot compare it with two adult humans who love each other. Nobody is born attracted to dead bodies or animals.
@TaneishaRed1990 Not all straight men beat women. The ones who do deserve punishment under the law. Women who nag and deride their men do so without fear of legal retribution, What does his have to do with the sad dysfunction of homosexuality?
@garysher3 maybe not all straight men beat women, but one in four women in the world is a victim of such abuse. This is a fact you can't deny. Gay men don't beat women, do they? Hell no!
@TaneishaRed1990 maybe not all straight men beat women, but one in four women in the world is a victim of such abuse. This is a fact you can't deny"
Really? Do you happen to have a source for this "fact" or is it something else you madee up to make your irrational and deranged attempt at justifying the homosexual dysfunction?
@garysher3 homosexuality isn't a dysfunction, it's a naturally occuring sexual orientation, simlar to heterosexuality. By the way, when did you choose to be a heterosexual? If you think being gay is a choice, which science says it ISN'T, then you are implying that you chose to be straight at some point. Tell me when and why
@TaneishaRed1990 when did you choose to be a heterosexual? If you think being gay is a choice, which science says it ISN'T, then you are implying that you chose to be straight at some point. "
Really? When did you choosee to see with your eyes or chew with your mouth? Like heterosexuality these are instinctive functions necessary for survival and require no choice.Unlike homosexuality which has no purpose and is behaviourally dysfunctional and deviant
@garysher3 homosexuality DOES have a purpose, which we've already established. You can ignore the scientific fact, just like many Christians ignore the science of evolution. It won't change the FACTS. Sexual orientation is not a choice and CANNOT be changed. This is what the experts have to say. You, sir, are NO expert.
@garysher3 oh, and Anne Heche is bisexual. It's quite conceivable, given her history, that she might one day be married to a woman again. This happens quite frequently, especially with women. They go back and forth a lot. Women are more "fluid" in their bisexuality than are men.
@garysher3 prisoners who have sex with men often do it as a way of survival. In fact, most male on male rape occurs in prisons. The men who rape other men are usually heterosexual as are their victims. This has been documented. In prisons there is a hierarchy of who is in control. When one man wants to be the top leader, he often subjects other prisoners to sexual favors. It is his way of "dominating" his subjects. This has been studied. None of these men are even remotely bisexual.
@garysher3 once again, your small mind has confused sexual behavior from orientation. It is possible for straights to have gay sex, and vice versa. This isn't rocket science. I've known gay people who were in straight relationships, and yet they have NO attraction for the opposite sex whatsoever. Their orientation will forever be gay.
I did some research. People is not born homosexual, Some genes may predispose you to be homosexual. Hormones in the whom may predispose you to be homosexual (those 2 are birth related) Some factors after birth may predispose you to be homosexual (not birth related)
So saying "I was born with factors that made me homosexual at puberty" is correct but saying "I was born homosexual" is false as you don't have a sexual orientation until puberty, there are no homosexual babies.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo you didn't do ENOUGH research, because most scientists now say that people ARE born gay. In fact, Swedish scientists go as far as to say that sexual orientation might be predicted BEFORE birth.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo and, again you have the wrong idea. Oh, dear, where do I being. Yes, your sexual orientation is "discovered' at puberty, but you can ask any mother, and they will tell you that they often KNOW the sexual orientation of their child well before puberty. So, YES there ARE homosexual babies, sorry to disappoint you. Are you also aware that gay activists are fighting AGAINST the research into the "gay gene?" That's because they fear that homophobes might abort a gay fetus.
"but you can ask any mother, and they will tell you that they often KNOW the sexual orientation of their child well before puberty."←They are guessing.
"you didn't do ENOUGH research, because most scientists now say that people ARE born gay."←People is not born gay, a person don't become gay till puberty. When was the last time you hear about a gay baby or kid?
"YES there ARE homosexual babies"←Show me some evidence.
Can please send me the links, by Google I get many results.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo ouch, your English is atrocious. That's scary. You said "people is not born gay." Wow, you need to study some English girl. I'm not so great in school either, but really, you need to learn some grammar. No, scientists say that sexual orientation is formed in the womb, before birth.
" Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person's sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. It is therefore not a choice."
"Research has shown that it is a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences" ←ENVIRONMENTAL INFLUENCES that is the 3rd factor you ignore.
"no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors."←That applies to you and me.
Sexual orientation can also be determined by environmental influences that are not related to birth.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Many people are aware of their homosexual feelings when they're younger. I knew when I was 7, a woman I know said she knew when she was 7, I didn't come out until I was 19 because I didn't want to come out until that time. People don't 'become gay' they either are gay or are not gay.
Age 7 I would agree, a minority of people reach puberty at that age (though is very rare) and so they have sexual urges which can be homosexual. But that other foolish guy is saying that babies have homosexual sexual urges which is not possible according to evidence. You can't be homosexual until you reach puberty, a baby is still years away from reaching puberty, babies don't have sex urges so they can be homosexuals.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Listen....I am talking about attraction, not sexual activity. Your sexual attraction determines later on WHO you'll have sex with. I was attracted to men at an early age. At puberty, as my body and mind grew and I learned what I liked, then and only then did I understand sexual activity based on attraction. Understanding sexual attraction and the attraction you have before puberty is completely different!
"People don't 'become gay' they either are gay or are not gay"←And they are gay because they become gay, become gay by genetic, hormonal or environmental factors, without those factors you can't become gay.
I never been "straight" I became zoosexual at puberty.
You need sexual hormones to be sexually attracted to something like the opposite sex, that doesn't happen till you reach puberty (that is when the sexual hormones kick in and make you have sexual urges) so you can't know you are homosexual till you reach puberty, knowing that you are homosexual before puberty is IMPOSSIBLE.
"I didn't 'become gay"←You became gay because of different factors, there are homosexual studies about.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Dude...how can you tell me what I've known since when? I've known since 7--not puberty! That's the problem with a lot of people, they ask how do you know? and then they claim you were too young to know...bullish!
"I've known since 7--not puberty!"←That is not possible, without puberty hormones you can't have sex urges, without sex urges you can't know what you are sexually attracted to. Sexologist and psychologist can tell what a person sexual orientation is until that person has past puberty, how come they with more than 10 years of studies on the field can tell... but you magically could? Sorry but scientific evidence says you can't know till you reach puberty, that is a fact. You are a lier
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Yeah...I trust YOU to tell ME when I started liking guys! Bullshit! I am entitled to my experiences and know me a hell of a lot more than you do--oh wait, you don't know me
GO to a psychologist or sexologist and get a certificate that you knew you where gay before puberty then show it to me and I will believe you. Thing is, I know that will not happen, because they know is not possible to be gay before puberty.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Like I said: Yeah...I trust YOU to tell ME when I started liking guys! And why should I HAVE to go to a psychologist or sexologist to prove something I KNEW before puberty...you are in denial!
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Again, like most homophobes using tricks to distract from the fact that I knew BEFORE puberty that I liked men...yeah...I needed a sexologist/psychologist to tell me that!
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo if you don't believe me, then you can google this: the science of sexual orientation. You can also google this article: "The Only Question that Matters; Do People Choose their Sexual Orientation" by Chandler Burr. You can also google his longer book: "A Separate Creation: The Search for the Biological Origins of Sexual Orientation." It deals with BOTH sides of this argument, and the results might surprise you.
Continuation.... I know sexual orientation are not a choice.
But you don't become gay till puberty, you can't be born gay because babies don't have a sexual orientation yet.
And even if they can study the baby for gay gene and gay hormones, that baby can end up heterosexual at puberty so saying "I was born gay" is just a fabrication (a lie)
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo And, you might want to do some reading before you say stupid things. Actually, there are many biological components to sexual orientation. In fact, identical twins are more likely to share the same sexual orientation, you just haven't done enough research to know this.
"identical twins are more likely to share the same sexual orientation"←50% chance to have the same sexual orientation, that fact that is not a 100% it means that homosexuals are not always born like that (like some poeple say)
"yes, I agree that a pedophile who doesn't act on his attractions to children is not harming children"←You said pedophile harm children. Pedophiles never harm children, child molesters and rapists harm children and those are not always made by pedophiles.
"Being a pedophile hurts children"←Being pedophile means that a person has an a traction to children, how is that hurting children? Attractions don't hurt people, sexual acts may hurt people, but not all pedophiles act on their urges because most of them know it is wrong to act. Pedophiles that chose to live in celibacy hurt no one.
"beastiality hurts animals"←Sex can be abusive or consensual, bestiality is not always abusive, please stop doing hasty generalizations.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo yes, I agree that a pedophile who doesn't act on his attractions to children is not harming children. That's a given. Why would you say something so obvious? However, sex with children should forever be made illegal because they are too immature to consent to sexual behavior. Animals also. When a dog can sign a legal contract, then and only then should a human be able to marry a dog.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo and, apparently you are unaware that adult men can marry girls as young as nine in Yemen and it's LEGAL. Do you approve of this? The girls get the consent of their parents. No consent from the child is necessary, and the fathers often "sell" their daughters to the highest bidder.
"apparently you are unaware that adult men can marry girls as young as nine in Yemen and it's LEGAL."←I'm aware and I don't think is right because it tends to be harmful. No I don't approve that, I think marriage should be only between consenting adults.
"Animals also."←Actually adult animals are mature and can consent to sex, thought they can't consent to marriage as they are not human and do not comprehend the meaning of marriages nor they can give legal consent.
"animals can't speak, so no, they cannot consent to marriage."←So muted humans can't consent to marriage because they can't speak? Last time I check you don't need the ability to speak to get married.
PS: I know dogs can't get married but is not because they can't speak (they can speak by using body language) reason they can't marry is because they can't give legal consent and they are not human.
@TaneishaRed1990 "We do not discriminate on the basis of gender, race or sexual orientation." Why are they lumped together?
You missed age off that list, and religion, both are changeable.
I don't support discrmination against homosexuals but that has nothing to do with the fact that plenty of people are able to overcome unwanted and deviant homosexual feelings and impulses.
You may not want to but why deny that treatment to others?
@garysher3 so, when a person in a heterosexual relationship realizes they are gay and is finally able to accept themselves, have they been 'cured"of their heterosexual orientation?
@garysher3 how come the APA says that sexual orientation CANNOT be changed? It is fixed for life. We are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual at birth, according to them.
@garysher3 Australian Psychological Society: sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Some people report trying very hard over many years to change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual, with no success. For these reasons, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation for to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed. People don't choose their sexual orientation.
@garysher3 so, when a man visits a prostitute he is trying to make a baby? Is that what you think? And, why do people use condoms if sex is for making babies only? You make no sense.
@TaneishaRed1990 When a man visits a prostitute he is responding to a primordial urge to indulge in sex. Using condoms doesn't change the instinctive motivation for sex
Homosexuality is a malfunction of this urge, like a dog humping a tree or a human chewing with their ears. It's comical but deeply sad
@garysher3 you still haven't explained why some animals only mate with same sex partners. Can you explain why they do this? If it's a primordial urge, why do they fail to mate with opposite sex partners? You continue to make no sense.
@TaneishaRed1990 Amoeba are asexual and mate with themselves, so what is your point? Why are you trying to use animal behaviour to justify homosexual deviancy?
Should humans eat their own babies just because baboons do?
@garysher3 no, I use animal behavior to teach you that homosexuality is equally as natural and necessary as heterosexuality. It exists for a biological PURPOSE. I kind of like the idea of humans eating their young, since there are too many humans. After all, some people have abortions, don't they? Why is that any different?
@garysher3 your problem is that you are trying to make a moral issue out of something that shouldn't be. In fact, the only moral issue is when people remove the rights of gays at the ballot box. I consider this to be immoral.
@garysher3 the Supreme Court disagrees with you. They have stated many times over that marriage is a BASIC civil right. There is no question you'll lose this fight eventually. And, it's sort of funny to watch people like you getting desperate to stop the inevitable. We all know where this is going: nationalized gay marriage in all 50 states.
And then there's the inconvenient truth about all those prisoners who switch to homosexuality when locked up then miraculously switch back the day they're released!
Oh but they aren't real homosexuals? Yeah right. Homosexuals have a passion for delusion
Funny how the homosexuals applaud every time somebody famous "comes out" late in life yet they still pretend that nobody in the history of mankind has ever made the trip in the opposite direction!
Despite the fact that thousands of homosexuals successfully complete therapy every day.
@garysher3 there is no need for a heterosexual to "come out of the closet." That's because heterosexuality is accepted in society, whereas being gay means people face ignorant folks such as yourself who ridicule them and tell them there is something wrong with them, when there isn't. And, do you mean to tell us that a straight person who "switches" to gay is someone who has successfully been "cured" of heterosexuality? That makes no sense. Is there a form of therapy to cure heterosexuality?
@TaneishaRed1990 The reason heterosexuality is accepted is because it is the whole purpose for the existence of human sexuality and is vital to continuance of the human race.
The reason homosexuality is considered deviant, weird and abhorrent is because it serves no purpose and is a mutation of natural behaviour.
So yes, there is a lot wrong with anyone who chooses to pursue a homosexual lifestyle, ditto the other sexual deviations like pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia etc
@garysher3 that's interesting, but not true. It turns out that homosexuality also exists in nature. In fact, the animal kingdom is replete with homosexual behavior, and researchers believe homosexual serves an important function of preventing the species from overpopulating. You are thinking of the old Catholic model of sex for procreation. For every 10,000 acts of sexual activity it results in one pregnancy. Therefore, the primary function of sex is pleasure.
@garysher3 there is nothing immoral about homosexuality, and saying so won't make it that way. You sound like those racists that used to accuse black people of all sorts of atrocities in order to sway people to oppose civil rights of blacks.
@TaneishaRed1990 you saying homosexuality is not immoral doesn't make it so either. Morality is subjective but most people agree with me and have done so for millenia
@garysher3 since when do most people consider homosexuality immoral? That's just nonsense. Do you really believe the shit you're posting here, or are you just trying to be funny? There is no moral issue about one's innate orientation.
@garysher3 times have changed for most gay people in America. When you were young it was rare to see homosexuals who were public in their sexuality. Now, it is very common, and there isn't a teen anywhere in the country who can't name a famous gay person. And, these are people that are popular and well liked. I'm afraid you are a dying breed, and you're clearly threatened by gay people, and this makes me happy. It means more and more people are accepting of gays.
@garysher3 it must really hurt you when you see a gay married couple who is happy? Does it bother you? Did you know that there are now 160,000 married gay people in America right now?
Real homosexuality is not something acquired and not something that can be "cured". Homosexuality, and indeed all sexual orientations and identities, is about who we are and who we love and are attracted to. If someone says they are "ex-gay" or they were "cured of their homosexuality", then they were never really gay to begin with. The same thing can be said for all sexual orientations and identities. If you say you were "cured" or "turned/made straight", you aren't being true to yourself.
Richard Cohen is nuts. He sent one of his followers Caleb Brundidge from his group to Uganda to urge that government to persecute gays, and now Uganda is executing them.
May Richard Cohen and Caleb Brundidge rot in hell forever.
You know buddy, my same sex attraction is not unwanted. I am gay, I love my life, I love myself, I love my partner. If there is a GOD he, she, it knows that I am a good person.
In my opinion this man is very very closeted and deep down i feel pitty for him, but then i see what he is doing, what he is demonstrating to society and i dont feel sorry anymore.
Life is beautiful. Why live in artificial ugliness and self-inflicted pain and suffering? Being gay is what it is. Homophobia is a choice.
Why do people still live in fantasies when reality isn't that bad at all. You're either straight or you're gay. Nothing will change your attractions. Live with who and what you are and be happy.
This sad and unhappy charlatan is better off dead. He wakes each morning loathing himself, and goes to sleep the same way. No money is worth such a wasted life.
Omg. Why do people care so damn bad whether people are gay or straight. Let people live there damn life as long as it harms no one or anything. It's not affecting your life or anyone else so leave it alone..
@dancesonpoles that's not necessarily true that it harms no one or anything. It can be harmful to society, but mostly harmful to themselves. I still believe that any and all groups of people deserve their rights and civil liberties tho. I don't think it's right to completely condemn homosexuality in terms of treating them like sinners or criminal, but 100% complete blind acceptance and agreeance is not right either because it robs them of the help that they need.
@funk7000 They don't need help, and the do not harm society. Hateful individuals and groups hurt society, not the many individuals and groups of gay people who are trying to mind their own business by living life. And then other people come along acting as though they have some kind of right to change, judge, or control others and their lives. They don't effect you or me, so let them be.
@dancesonpoles that's not what Cohen does. People come to him to help them overcome feelings of same sex attraction. It is their right to do so if they want to.
@funk7000 If they go to him, so be it, there choice, okay. They have that right. But many people take it upon themselves to try and control the lives of others when they have no right to do so.
Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7
This man is not telling anyone they have a psychological disease, but I am here to tell you that you can change orientation. I am living proof. I was never ever bi, but I am not willing too, nor do I want to ever go back to homosexuality. I am not against the homosexual, why should I be? I was where they are. I did have to use Jesus on daily basis, and I got out of it. I have been called a liar, deluded etc, call me what you like, but I am out, and better! I had to change. Thank God.
@39Mustangman Let me guess, you thought you were bisexual cause you were curious about the other boys body parts?
Why would someone choose to be gay and how can the people you least expect to be gay be gay? Even when they don't have any psychological problems?
Sexuality exploration is portrayed as unmanly and "gay" and thats where people get nervous that they might be gay because they are curious. And then they realize they dont like the same sex and say THANK GOD IM CURED. Brainwashing
@FinaIAeon I think you need to read further into my comments. It was not a choice for me, but how I dealt with it was a choice. The meltdown of a traditional family is very bad idea, with or without God. God bless you, and may he take care of you forever.
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vincey-sorry you are so intolerant and hateful towards this man and the work he does to help people who have unwanted homosexual feelings.
It's you choice not to believe the blatantly obvious but why would you attack him and the people he has successfully helped to rehabilitate from homosexuality?
It's like an alcoholic having another drink and making fun of a reformed alcoholic
You're an idiot. I'm gay myself and this man disgusts me! YES, one is born gay. NO, one canNOT change it in any way. The ones who "come out straight" as this idiot says, are not happy at all inside. That's impossible. There is no gene that determines homosexuality, but it is definetly biological and set by nature as jthompson1990 says. This is utter ignorance at level which is staggering so fast I can't believe it. No wonder, the gay community is so intolerant: (continue-->>)
you seem like you're a scientist or something. I'm gay too, and NO you are not born gay, NEITHER do you choose to be gay. It has to do with UPBRINGING and psychology. In my years of bachelor's and master's studies in science, I have not one day found proof or even theory to explain what you say, and believe me I searched until my guts came out of my stomach because I wanted to know so much about it because I believed it. ME AND U ARE NOT BORN GAY. I'M SORRY TO BREAK IT TO U.
I wholly agree with you. I'm no scientist, but I took a human sexuality class and most cases DO have to do with upbringing and pyschology! Another interesting thing is a study they did in Australia with identical twins, where there were cases where one was gay, and the other wasn't...
this man is telling gays that they have some kind of psychological disease which can be cured! Who one's attracted to is determined by ones body and brains, NOT ones mind. Some are unhappy with their orientation, but sooner or later they have to accept it's what your body/nature wants. And.. I must say... this man's just GOTTA be darn religious... >.>"
Homosexuality cannot be changed because its innate. I dont think its a gene, but its defo biological. The rare few that say they have changed havent changed on the inside. They are just kidding themselves. Gay people who arent happy are only unhappy because of homophobia. Im gay and very happy. I get up, eat, go to uni, have relationships, have a social life. Sound!
Ginny-if you watch the entire interview you will hear Cohen say he loves all homosexuals and only offers treatment to those with unwanted homosexual feelings.
Genuine attachment to another person of the same sex is not the same as homosexuality- as you well know.
To say or imply that everyone with homosexual feelings is happy with that condition, or that people cannot be successfully rehabilitated, is extremely disrespectful to corrected gays.
Gary -- okay, how do I say this? I don't agree with just about anything you've ever said in this comment thread, however I suppose I agree that not every person who has attractions to someone of the same sex is happy about that, and I do not want to disrespect those who aren't happy with thier orientation; that's never been my intention....
(I'm going to continue this on another post, since the character limit YouTube allows is rediculously low!)
However, first off, your statement that genunie attraction is different from homosexuality is wrong. I can't give you the history of how the term "homosexuality" came to be, but it is generally regarded as a term to describe anyone with feelings of same-sex attraction, genuine, and, I suppose, ingenuine.
My other big argument is that while maybe "rehabilitation" can work on some people, a) I have never met a gay person whose attraction to someone of thier gender is ingenuine (cont.)
i caanot understand why is he doing this shits like conference or something like that about THERAPY to people if he doesnt have the license of doing that... maybe he has some co-workers that they do his work
RayderX007 1 month ago
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Mr.Cohen is a breathing walking oxymoron..
ellocogigo071394 6 months ago
Mr.Cohen is a breathing walking oxymoron.
ellocogigo071394 6 months ago
Mr.Cohen -____- just burn your books.
ellocogigo071394 6 months ago
@candiceevans1 no, you are stupid. If you equate two women or two men marrying to animals it just shows that you have the intelligence of a small rodent. And, writing in all caps doesn't make you seem any more intelligent. Why are you so ignorant? You can't distinguish two men or two women from a man and an animal marrying? STUPID! And, I don't care what your "god" calls marriage, it is defined by the government not by your bible. God has been marrying gay couples for decades. Get over it
TaneishaRed1990 6 months ago
Why doesn't this lady just shutup,she can't stand that this guy is saying that homosexuals can change there behavior's,this should be proof to all who claim that homosexuals are born this way...if he has changed over 1000 homosexuals to hetro-sexuals that just blows a enourmos hole in the "born that way " theory....
marino2duper 7 months ago
He's based his whole life on announcing the fact that he's living in total self denial. What the hell goes wrong with some people's head's that could make them so screwed up?
This is nuts!
audiotrax2000 7 months ago
This guy is brainwashed
iamwhoiamwhoiammark2 8 months ago
Oh wow, I don't know how Rachel could keep a straight face at 7:39 when he said "Thrust". I lol'd pretty damn hard.
Lemileant 8 months ago
what's up w. his mouth?
bradleysmith11 9 months ago
News flash, Mr. Cohen: being married to a woman and having three kids doesn't make you straight. It just makes you closeted.
chthonic19 10 months ago 2
I wish I had as much restraint as Rachel Maddow.
yalinegurl1 10 months ago
Why is it always those folks who don't even have sex, who can't stop thinking and talking about OTHER people and the sex they are having?
Get laid, man (if you can). Stop snooping in other people's bed rooms. Stop speculating about "the sins" they commit. Worry about your own happiness and less about how you can make others miserable in Jesus Name. YOU are ill. Heal thyself, religious nut case! Awake from your narcissistic nightmare and LIVE.
We all die soon enough, and then we STAY DEAD!
schlummieleinchen 11 months ago
IT IS NOT A CHOICE!!! ANYONE WHO SAYS THIS AND ISN"T GAY SHUT UP AND TALK ABOULT SOMETHING YOU KNOW ABOUT. WHY IN HELL WOULD WE PICK TO BE HATED BY STUPIED IDIOTS
sosterday123 11 months ago
@aehre2 I disagree with this. I think that people who are "fluid" in their sexuality are innately bisexual. Most people are firmly homosexual or heterosexual, not "fluid."
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
And no amount of Hell fire is going to make someone want something they really want subconsiously. Its worse than even putting a gun to someones head and telling a vegetarian to enjoy eating meat.
TheTraditioAeternus 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 people who are fluid in their sexuality are just horn dogs who are so desperate they will take sexual release any where they can find it.
Ignorant people like you who condone such abhorrent deviant behaviour only make things worse.
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 "Physical orientation and sexual orientation are not moral issues, and majority / minority phenomena in nature do not involve natural versus unnatural categories. The exceptional in nature is still natural, whether the exception is left-handedness or the homosexual orientation of erotic desire." D. Michael Quinn, ex-Mormon and former professor at Brigham Young University.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 D Michael Quinn is entitled to his opinion like everyone else
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 yes, and I think Michael Quinn's opinion is far more evolved and informed than your opinion. It makes sense that if people are born gay, then it isn't a moral issue. Why do you continue to cling to something that makes no sense? If you are born gay, how can this be a moral issue?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 It makes sense that if people are born gay, then it isn't a moral issue."Are people also born as pedophiles, bestailists, prostitutes, drug addicts or serial killers?
Would that be an evolved opinion?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 no, this is of no relevance. Being gay hurts nobody. Being a pedophile hurts children. Being into beastiality hurts animals. Prostitutes are not born that way. That's just stupid. The best parallel is that being gay is like being female or black or Asian.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
People are not born homosexual nor born heterosexual, people is born with no sexual orientation.
People don't get a sexual orientation till they reach puberty.
If people where born with a sexual orientation it would mean that identical twins that share the same DNA would always share the same sexual orientation, yet there are identical twins where one is homosexual and the other one is heterosexual or bisexual or asexual or zoosexual.
People is born without a sexual orientation
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo actually, science has proven you wrong on this. In fact, researchers in Sweden say they will be able to predict sexual orientation BEFORE birth, based on brain size differences between straights and gays. Yes, people "discover" their sexual orientation in puberty, but it was well established by that time. In fact, the most conservative scientists say that sexual orientation is clearly determined by the age of two at the very latest.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
"Sweden say they will be able to predict sexual orientation BEFORE birth"←They haven't done that yet.
"In fact, the most conservative scientists say that sexual orientation is clearly determined by the age of two at the very latest."←Without sexual arousal and sex drive there is no sexual orientation. Though the genes or the hormones or the brain difference may be there at a younger age, the person will not become homosexual till puberty and not all homosexuals are set at birth.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 You are highly suggestible and would mke a great magician;s volunteer.
You dig up all kinds og obscure "facts" and pretend you can suddenly reverse human wisdom stretching bck for millenia
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 actually, YOU are the one who is trying to reverse human wisdom. In fact, homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time alongside heterosexuality. Why do you think it's some kind of "fad" that will one day go away? That's just stupid. Homosexuality clearly serves a function in nature. Whether you can understand it or not, is not my problem, but YOUR problem. Your mind is clearly very narrow and not open.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 this book describes why homosexuality is biologically necessary:
Condundrum: The Evolution of Homosexuality, by NJ Peters
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 it amazes me that people can think that they are intelligent, and yet haven't figured out that homosexuality is not a choice, not changeable, and a part of God's plan. It clearly has a function, and a purpose and is not merely a "behavior."
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 so why do thousands of homosexuals swutch back to normality?
Like ellen's ex gal pal Aanne Heche, who married a man and had a baby, And countless ex-prisnoers?
Homosexuality has no purpose, why are you so terrified of accepting this obvious fact?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 actually, you have it assbackwards. Your question should have been: "why do so many homosexuals hide in heterosexual relationships, and eventually come out of the closet?" VERY, VERY few people "switch" from gay to straight, and in fact, most of them return to a "gay lifestyle" as you call it later on in life. Even those Christian ex-gay groups claim a "success" rate below 30 percent. That's because you cannot change your orientation, only your behavior can change.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 AA only claims a success rate of 5% for recovery from drug and alcohol abuse. If orientation cannot be changed why don't we lock up pedophiles for life?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 again, comparing alcoholism to homosexuality is a ridiculous analogy. Are left handed people in need of "rehabilitation" because they are only five percent of the population?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 face it, no matter what you say or do will change the FACT that five percent of the population has always been gay, and always will be gay. It's not a choice, nor is it changeable. Homosexuals have contributed far more to society per capita than have heterosexuals. Some of the greatest people in their fields were gay, and yet they represent only five percent of the population. You clearly display your inferiority complex towards gay people. Get it checked out. NOT healthy.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 have you ever wondered why homosexuality has existed in every culture in every time period since recorded time began in roughly the same percentages of the population? Is that a "whim" a "choice" a "fad?" You're an idiot if you think so. Homosexuality exists for a purpose, and I've already educated you about this. Why do you ignore what science teaches us?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 pedophiles necrophiles zoophiles have also existed forever. So have cancer and polio. Do these have a purpose?
What was your point?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 homosexuality cannot be compared to disease, any more than you can compare race to disease. That's just stupid. You really are a smartass, aren't you? You have no substance whatsoever, nor science behind your stupid claims. I like people like you, however, because you show the emptiness of your arguments against gays.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 in fact, homosexuality serves a function that is equally as valuable to society as heterosexuality. Now, can you tell me why heterosexuals use birth control? If the purpose of sex is to make babies, why would they want to prevent the "purpose" by using birth control? It makes no sense. Clearly, the purpose of sex is pleasure, and procreation is often the unintended and unwanted consequence. I'll remind you that gay people don't have abortions.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 heterosexuals use birth control so they can respond to natural and crucial human instincts yet still control when those behaviours result in conception.
Homosexual sex can never result in conception because it ts deviant abd purposeless
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 no, heterosexuals use birth control because they want to enjoy sex for its primary purpose, which is PLEASURE. Now, tell me that men visit prostitutes to have babies, right? Sure, whatever...
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 yes, homosexual sex can never result in conception, now you are finally UNDERSTANDING the PURPOSE of homosexuality. I think we're on to something now. THIS is the reason homosexuality exists in nature, and why some sheep won't breed with opposite sex. Ask any sheep farmer, and he'll tell you that some sheep only mate with their own gender.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 this is not rocket science. It's quite easy to understand, really. Nature has created homosexuality as a way to preserve the species. It will therefore always serve a function in nature, and will never disappear. A certain percentage of the human and animal population is born gay, and you CANNOT change this. Get over it. Move on, get a life, grow up.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 I accept homosexuality will always exist like its deviant bed partners, necrophilia, zoophilia etc.
I don't accept any of these have the purpose of controlling population growth. We have disease war and famine to take care of that.
Nice try though
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 necrophilia and zoophilia are not sexual orientations, stupid. In fact, those are considered something completely different, just as polygamy is different. Nobody is born a zoophile or necrophiliac. Why do you continue to ignore science? Is your mind so closed? Science teaches us that homosexuality exists for a PURPOSE, just as heterosexual exists for a purpose. Science also teaches us that it's not a choice and is not possible to change. Grow up, and accept science.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 necrophilia and zoophilia are not sexual orientations, stupid. In fact, those are considered something completely different,"
Really? How convenient for you to pick and choose which sexual deviances are acceptable and have been validated by your mysterious "science" to have a purpose!
Hopefully you won't pursue a career in law
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 yes, I repeat, since you didn't get it the first time: being a necrophiliac or zoophile is not a sexual orientation. You cannot compare it with two adult humans who love each other. Nobody is born attracted to dead bodies or animals.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 now, if we could only understand why straight men beat their women, we'd be getting something accomplished.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 Not all straight men beat women. The ones who do deserve punishment under the law. Women who nag and deride their men do so without fear of legal retribution, What does his have to do with the sad dysfunction of homosexuality?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 maybe not all straight men beat women, but one in four women in the world is a victim of such abuse. This is a fact you can't deny. Gay men don't beat women, do they? Hell no!
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
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@TaneishaRed1990 maybe not all straight men beat women, but one in four women in the world is a victim of such abuse. This is a fact you can't deny"
Really? Do you happen to have a source for this "fact" or is it something else you madee up to make your irrational and deranged attempt at justifying the homosexual dysfunction?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 homosexuality isn't a dysfunction, it's a naturally occuring sexual orientation, simlar to heterosexuality. By the way, when did you choose to be a heterosexual? If you think being gay is a choice, which science says it ISN'T, then you are implying that you chose to be straight at some point. Tell me when and why
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 when did you choose to be a heterosexual? If you think being gay is a choice, which science says it ISN'T, then you are implying that you chose to be straight at some point. "
Really? When did you choosee to see with your eyes or chew with your mouth? Like heterosexuality these are instinctive functions necessary for survival and require no choice.Unlike homosexuality which has no purpose and is behaviourally dysfunctional and deviant
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 homosexuality DOES have a purpose, which we've already established. You can ignore the scientific fact, just like many Christians ignore the science of evolution. It won't change the FACTS. Sexual orientation is not a choice and CANNOT be changed. This is what the experts have to say. You, sir, are NO expert.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 oh, and Anne Heche is bisexual. It's quite conceivable, given her history, that she might one day be married to a woman again. This happens quite frequently, especially with women. They go back and forth a lot. Women are more "fluid" in their bisexuality than are men.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 Heche is bisexual! Like all those prisoners??
how convenient!
Your arguments are riddled with holes
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 prisoners who have sex with men often do it as a way of survival. In fact, most male on male rape occurs in prisons. The men who rape other men are usually heterosexual as are their victims. This has been documented. In prisons there is a hierarchy of who is in control. When one man wants to be the top leader, he often subjects other prisoners to sexual favors. It is his way of "dominating" his subjects. This has been studied. None of these men are even remotely bisexual.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 once again, your small mind has confused sexual behavior from orientation. It is possible for straights to have gay sex, and vice versa. This isn't rocket science. I've known gay people who were in straight relationships, and yet they have NO attraction for the opposite sex whatsoever. Their orientation will forever be gay.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 but, continue to ignore the facts for all I care. Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? You must be very happy.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
I did some research. People is not born homosexual, Some genes may predispose you to be homosexual. Hormones in the whom may predispose you to be homosexual (those 2 are birth related) Some factors after birth may predispose you to be homosexual (not birth related)
So saying "I was born with factors that made me homosexual at puberty" is correct but saying "I was born homosexual" is false as you don't have a sexual orientation until puberty, there are no homosexual babies.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo you didn't do ENOUGH research, because most scientists now say that people ARE born gay. In fact, Swedish scientists go as far as to say that sexual orientation might be predicted BEFORE birth.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo and, again you have the wrong idea. Oh, dear, where do I being. Yes, your sexual orientation is "discovered' at puberty, but you can ask any mother, and they will tell you that they often KNOW the sexual orientation of their child well before puberty. So, YES there ARE homosexual babies, sorry to disappoint you. Are you also aware that gay activists are fighting AGAINST the research into the "gay gene?" That's because they fear that homophobes might abort a gay fetus.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
"but you can ask any mother, and they will tell you that they often KNOW the sexual orientation of their child well before puberty."←They are guessing.
"you didn't do ENOUGH research, because most scientists now say that people ARE born gay."←People is not born gay, a person don't become gay till puberty. When was the last time you hear about a gay baby or kid?
"YES there ARE homosexual babies"←Show me some evidence.
Can please send me the links, by Google I get many results.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
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@DogsneedpIeasuretoo ouch, your English is atrocious. That's scary. You said "people is not born gay." Wow, you need to study some English girl. I'm not so great in school either, but really, you need to learn some grammar. No, scientists say that sexual orientation is formed in the womb, before birth.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo The Royal College of Psychiatrists states:
" Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person's sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. It is therefore not a choice."
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
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@TaneishaRed1990
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Environment_and_sexual_orientation
"Research has shown that it is a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences" ←ENVIRONMENTAL INFLUENCES that is the 3rd factor you ignore.
"no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors."←That applies to you and me.
Sexual orientation can also be determined by environmental influences that are not related to birth.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Many people are aware of their homosexual feelings when they're younger. I knew when I was 7, a woman I know said she knew when she was 7, I didn't come out until I was 19 because I didn't want to come out until that time. People don't 'become gay' they either are gay or are not gay.
vidhead85 9 months ago
@vidhead85
Age 7 I would agree, a minority of people reach puberty at that age (though is very rare) and so they have sexual urges which can be homosexual. But that other foolish guy is saying that babies have homosexual sexual urges which is not possible according to evidence. You can't be homosexual until you reach puberty, a baby is still years away from reaching puberty, babies don't have sex urges so they can be homosexuals.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Listen....I am talking about attraction, not sexual activity. Your sexual attraction determines later on WHO you'll have sex with. I was attracted to men at an early age. At puberty, as my body and mind grew and I learned what I liked, then and only then did I understand sexual activity based on attraction. Understanding sexual attraction and the attraction you have before puberty is completely different!
vidhead85 9 months ago
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@vidhead85
"People don't 'become gay' they either are gay or are not gay"←And they are gay because they become gay, become gay by genetic, hormonal or environmental factors, without those factors you can't become gay.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo I was always gay. I knew when I was 7. I didn't 'become gay' I only acknowledged I was. Since when do you 'become' straight?
vidhead85 9 months ago
@vidhead85
I never been "straight" I became zoosexual at puberty.
You need sexual hormones to be sexually attracted to something like the opposite sex, that doesn't happen till you reach puberty (that is when the sexual hormones kick in and make you have sexual urges) so you can't know you are homosexual till you reach puberty, knowing that you are homosexual before puberty is IMPOSSIBLE.
"I didn't 'become gay"←You became gay because of different factors, there are homosexual studies about.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Dude...how can you tell me what I've known since when? I've known since 7--not puberty! That's the problem with a lot of people, they ask how do you know? and then they claim you were too young to know...bullish!
vidhead85 9 months ago
@vidhead85
"I've known since 7--not puberty!"←That is not possible, without puberty hormones you can't have sex urges, without sex urges you can't know what you are sexually attracted to. Sexologist and psychologist can tell what a person sexual orientation is until that person has past puberty, how come they with more than 10 years of studies on the field can tell... but you magically could? Sorry but scientific evidence says you can't know till you reach puberty, that is a fact. You are a lier
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Yeah...I trust YOU to tell ME when I started liking guys! Bullshit! I am entitled to my experiences and know me a hell of a lot more than you do--oh wait, you don't know me
vidhead85 9 months ago
@vidhead85
GO to a psychologist or sexologist and get a certificate that you knew you where gay before puberty then show it to me and I will believe you. Thing is, I know that will not happen, because they know is not possible to be gay before puberty.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Like I said: Yeah...I trust YOU to tell ME when I started liking guys! And why should I HAVE to go to a psychologist or sexologist to prove something I KNEW before puberty...you are in denial!
vidhead85 9 months ago
@vidhead85
And you are probably a troll or an idiot.
Stop wasting your time, nobody is going to believe you over a psychologist or a sexologies.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Again, like most homophobes using tricks to distract from the fact that I knew BEFORE puberty that I liked men...yeah...I needed a sexologist/psychologist to tell me that!
vidhead85 9 months ago
@vidhead85
"the fact that I knew BEFORE puberty that I liked men"←Prove it with scientific evidence.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 9 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo if you don't believe me, then you can google this: the science of sexual orientation. You can also google this article: "The Only Question that Matters; Do People Choose their Sexual Orientation" by Chandler Burr. You can also google his longer book: "A Separate Creation: The Search for the Biological Origins of Sexual Orientation." It deals with BOTH sides of this argument, and the results might surprise you.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
Continuation.... I know sexual orientation are not a choice.
But you don't become gay till puberty, you can't be born gay because babies don't have a sexual orientation yet.
And even if they can study the baby for gay gene and gay hormones, that baby can end up heterosexual at puberty so saying "I was born gay" is just a fabrication (a lie)
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo And, you might want to do some reading before you say stupid things. Actually, there are many biological components to sexual orientation. In fact, identical twins are more likely to share the same sexual orientation, you just haven't done enough research to know this.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
"identical twins are more likely to share the same sexual orientation"←50% chance to have the same sexual orientation, that fact that is not a 100% it means that homosexuals are not always born like that (like some poeple say)
"yes, I agree that a pedophile who doesn't act on his attractions to children is not harming children"←You said pedophile harm children. Pedophiles never harm children, child molesters and rapists harm children and those are not always made by pedophiles.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
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@TaneishaRed1990
"Being a pedophile hurts children"←Being pedophile means that a person has an a traction to children, how is that hurting children? Attractions don't hurt people, sexual acts may hurt people, but not all pedophiles act on their urges because most of them know it is wrong to act. Pedophiles that chose to live in celibacy hurt no one.
"beastiality hurts animals"←Sex can be abusive or consensual, bestiality is not always abusive, please stop doing hasty generalizations.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo yes, I agree that a pedophile who doesn't act on his attractions to children is not harming children. That's a given. Why would you say something so obvious? However, sex with children should forever be made illegal because they are too immature to consent to sexual behavior. Animals also. When a dog can sign a legal contract, then and only then should a human be able to marry a dog.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@did your dog give its consent to be your pet? So why demnd consent for bestal marriage?
And how do you know animals always dislike sex with humans?
After all if animaks have sex with other species in the wild isn't that sufficient justificationn for you??
garysher3 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo and, apparently you are unaware that adult men can marry girls as young as nine in Yemen and it's LEGAL. Do you approve of this? The girls get the consent of their parents. No consent from the child is necessary, and the fathers often "sell" their daughters to the highest bidder.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990
"apparently you are unaware that adult men can marry girls as young as nine in Yemen and it's LEGAL."←I'm aware and I don't think is right because it tends to be harmful. No I don't approve that, I think marriage should be only between consenting adults.
"Animals also."←Actually adult animals are mature and can consent to sex, thought they can't consent to marriage as they are not human and do not comprehend the meaning of marriages nor they can give legal consent.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo animals can't speak, so no, they cannot consent to marriage.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
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@TaneishaRed1990
"animals can't speak, so no, they cannot consent to marriage."←So muted humans can't consent to marriage because they can't speak? Last time I check you don't need the ability to speak to get married.
PS: I know dogs can't get married but is not because they can't speak (they can speak by using body language) reason they can't marry is because they can't give legal consent and they are not human.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 1 year ago
@garysher3 if you are right, and homosexuality isn't the same as someone's gender or race, please tell me why this is on most job applications:
"We do not discriminate on the basis of gender, race or sexual orientation." Why are they lumped together?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 "We do not discriminate on the basis of gender, race or sexual orientation." Why are they lumped together?
You missed age off that list, and religion, both are changeable.
I don't support discrmination against homosexuals but that has nothing to do with the fact that plenty of people are able to overcome unwanted and deviant homosexual feelings and impulses.
You may not want to but why deny that treatment to others?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 religion is not always on that list. The three most common aspects are race, gender and sexual orientation.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 so, when a person in a heterosexual relationship realizes they are gay and is finally able to accept themselves, have they been 'cured"of their heterosexual orientation?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 how come the APA says that sexual orientation CANNOT be changed? It is fixed for life. We are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual at birth, according to them.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 Australian Psychological Society: sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Some people report trying very hard over many years to change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual, with no success. For these reasons, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation for to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed. People don't choose their sexual orientation.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 so, when a man visits a prostitute he is trying to make a baby? Is that what you think? And, why do people use condoms if sex is for making babies only? You make no sense.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 When a man visits a prostitute he is responding to a primordial urge to indulge in sex. Using condoms doesn't change the instinctive motivation for sex
Homosexuality is a malfunction of this urge, like a dog humping a tree or a human chewing with their ears. It's comical but deeply sad
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 you still haven't explained why some animals only mate with same sex partners. Can you explain why they do this? If it's a primordial urge, why do they fail to mate with opposite sex partners? You continue to make no sense.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 Amoeba are asexual and mate with themselves, so what is your point? Why are you trying to use animal behaviour to justify homosexual deviancy?
Should humans eat their own babies just because baboons do?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 no, I use animal behavior to teach you that homosexuality is equally as natural and necessary as heterosexuality. It exists for a biological PURPOSE. I kind of like the idea of humans eating their young, since there are too many humans. After all, some people have abortions, don't they? Why is that any different?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 LOL nice try but in reality homosexuality serves no purpose, natural or otherwise
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 your problem is that you are trying to make a moral issue out of something that shouldn't be. In fact, the only moral issue is when people remove the rights of gays at the ballot box. I consider this to be immoral.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 There is no right to homosexual marriage if thats what you were insinuatong
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 the Supreme Court disagrees with you. They have stated many times over that marriage is a BASIC civil right. There is no question you'll lose this fight eventually. And, it's sort of funny to watch people like you getting desperate to stop the inevitable. We all know where this is going: nationalized gay marriage in all 50 states.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago 6
he so got bitched out on 6:10 , i love it
queenkeefe 1 year ago
And then there's the inconvenient truth about all those prisoners who switch to homosexuality when locked up then miraculously switch back the day they're released!
Oh but they aren't real homosexuals? Yeah right. Homosexuals have a passion for delusion
garysher3 1 year ago
Funny how the homosexuals applaud every time somebody famous "comes out" late in life yet they still pretend that nobody in the history of mankind has ever made the trip in the opposite direction!
Despite the fact that thousands of homosexuals successfully complete therapy every day.
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 there is no need for a heterosexual to "come out of the closet." That's because heterosexuality is accepted in society, whereas being gay means people face ignorant folks such as yourself who ridicule them and tell them there is something wrong with them, when there isn't. And, do you mean to tell us that a straight person who "switches" to gay is someone who has successfully been "cured" of heterosexuality? That makes no sense. Is there a form of therapy to cure heterosexuality?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 The reason heterosexuality is accepted is because it is the whole purpose for the existence of human sexuality and is vital to continuance of the human race.
The reason homosexuality is considered deviant, weird and abhorrent is because it serves no purpose and is a mutation of natural behaviour.
So yes, there is a lot wrong with anyone who chooses to pursue a homosexual lifestyle, ditto the other sexual deviations like pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia etc
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 that's interesting, but not true. It turns out that homosexuality also exists in nature. In fact, the animal kingdom is replete with homosexual behavior, and researchers believe homosexual serves an important function of preventing the species from overpopulating. You are thinking of the old Catholic model of sex for procreation. For every 10,000 acts of sexual activity it results in one pregnancy. Therefore, the primary function of sex is pleasure.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 who cares if other species exhibit the homosexual dysfunction? why does that make homosexuality any less of a mutation?
Some species eat their young, does that make it right?
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 there is no such thing as "homosexual lifestyle." That's an oxymoron, just like YOU.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 there is no such thing as "homosexual lifestyle."
Sure there is. It's when a weak minded person succumbs to their immoral, abhorrent, deviant homosexual lust.
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 there is nothing immoral about homosexuality, and saying so won't make it that way. You sound like those racists that used to accuse black people of all sorts of atrocities in order to sway people to oppose civil rights of blacks.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 you saying homosexuality is not immoral doesn't make it so either. Morality is subjective but most people agree with me and have done so for millenia
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 sorry, but you don't speak for most people. Homosexuality is NOT a moral issue. I repeat.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@TaneishaRed1990 when did YOU become the arbiter of the nation's morals?
Most people consider homosexuality immorl even if thet turn a blind eye to its practitioners
garysher3 1 year ago
@garysher3 since when do most people consider homosexuality immoral? That's just nonsense. Do you really believe the shit you're posting here, or are you just trying to be funny? There is no moral issue about one's innate orientation.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 times have changed for most gay people in America. When you were young it was rare to see homosexuals who were public in their sexuality. Now, it is very common, and there isn't a teen anywhere in the country who can't name a famous gay person. And, these are people that are popular and well liked. I'm afraid you are a dying breed, and you're clearly threatened by gay people, and this makes me happy. It means more and more people are accepting of gays.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago 10
@garysher3 in fact, the last two national polls showed that the majority of Americans are now accepting of gay marriage. It's all good.
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
@garysher3 it must really hurt you when you see a gay married couple who is happy? Does it bother you? Did you know that there are now 160,000 married gay people in America right now?
TaneishaRed1990 1 year ago
lol "thrust of the text"
cugel2 1 year ago
this man is still gay feel sorry for his wife and children
Vietnamemperor12346 1 year ago
Real homosexuality is not something acquired and not something that can be "cured". Homosexuality, and indeed all sexual orientations and identities, is about who we are and who we love and are attracted to. If someone says they are "ex-gay" or they were "cured of their homosexuality", then they were never really gay to begin with. The same thing can be said for all sexual orientations and identities. If you say you were "cured" or "turned/made straight", you aren't being true to yourself.
Forummaster2 1 year ago
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Richard Cohen is nuts. He sent one of his followers Caleb Brundidge from his group to Uganda to urge that government to persecute gays, and now Uganda is executing them.
May Richard Cohen and Caleb Brundidge rot in hell forever.
jwwindsor 1 year ago
This man Richard Cohen reminds me so much of Tobias from Arrested Development.
Anyone else?
moirla 1 year ago
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moirla 1 year ago
Is it possible to have homosexual attraction and not want it, or is it always wanted? I honestly don't know.
kurarisusa 1 year ago
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thestopgayhatelist 1 year ago
You know buddy, my same sex attraction is not unwanted. I am gay, I love my life, I love myself, I love my partner. If there is a GOD he, she, it knows that I am a good person.
elfray1 1 year ago 5
In my opinion this man is very very closeted and deep down i feel pitty for him, but then i see what he is doing, what he is demonstrating to society and i dont feel sorry anymore.
peas4brains 1 year ago
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Life is beautiful. Why live in artificial ugliness and self-inflicted pain and suffering? Being gay is what it is. Homophobia is a choice.
Why do people still live in fantasies when reality isn't that bad at all. You're either straight or you're gay. Nothing will change your attractions. Live with who and what you are and be happy.
This sad and unhappy charlatan is better off dead. He wakes each morning loathing himself, and goes to sleep the same way. No money is worth such a wasted life.
Chelsea4President 1 year ago
Richard Cohen - Bullshittering bullshitting bullshitter closeted gaytard!
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
man...to bad rachel maddow is a fourth rate reporter on the worst rated cable news station hahah
pante4bruins 1 year ago
Omg. Why do people care so damn bad whether people are gay or straight. Let people live there damn life as long as it harms no one or anything. It's not affecting your life or anyone else so leave it alone..
dancesonpoles 1 year ago
@dancesonpoles that's not necessarily true that it harms no one or anything. It can be harmful to society, but mostly harmful to themselves. I still believe that any and all groups of people deserve their rights and civil liberties tho. I don't think it's right to completely condemn homosexuality in terms of treating them like sinners or criminal, but 100% complete blind acceptance and agreeance is not right either because it robs them of the help that they need.
funk7000 1 year ago
@funk7000 They don't need help, and the do not harm society. Hateful individuals and groups hurt society, not the many individuals and groups of gay people who are trying to mind their own business by living life. And then other people come along acting as though they have some kind of right to change, judge, or control others and their lives. They don't effect you or me, so let them be.
dancesonpoles 1 year ago
@dancesonpoles that's not what Cohen does. People come to him to help them overcome feelings of same sex attraction. It is their right to do so if they want to.
funk7000 1 year ago
@funk7000 If they go to him, so be it, there choice, okay. They have that right. But many people take it upon themselves to try and control the lives of others when they have no right to do so.
dancesonpoles 1 year ago
@Sidney38SNJ Regardless of what you say Cohen is neither a murderer or a liar. You are the liar.
Why are you so bigoted and intolerant that you deny the fact that so many homosexuals have been successfully rehabilitated?
You should be happy. They certainly are.
garysher3 1 year ago
@Sidney38SNJ
Yeah, my point being that if it were based on genes, the identical twins would be 100% and not 70%
andyottito 1 year ago
I don't think he was cured. Seems pretty gay to me!
skippyhappy69 1 year ago
I have unwanted heterosexual urges. Anyone know of a cure.
CreepyTom 1 year ago
This is my take on this bill:
Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7
39Mustangman 1 year ago
This man is not telling anyone they have a psychological disease, but I am here to tell you that you can change orientation. I am living proof. I was never ever bi, but I am not willing too, nor do I want to ever go back to homosexuality. I am not against the homosexual, why should I be? I was where they are. I did have to use Jesus on daily basis, and I got out of it. I have been called a liar, deluded etc, call me what you like, but I am out, and better! I had to change. Thank God.
39Mustangman 1 year ago
@39Mustangman Let me guess, you thought you were bisexual cause you were curious about the other boys body parts?
Why would someone choose to be gay and how can the people you least expect to be gay be gay? Even when they don't have any psychological problems?
Sexuality exploration is portrayed as unmanly and "gay" and thats where people get nervous that they might be gay because they are curious. And then they realize they dont like the same sex and say THANK GOD IM CURED. Brainwashing
FinaIAeon 1 year ago
@FinaIAeon I think you need to read further into my comments. It was not a choice for me, but how I dealt with it was a choice. The meltdown of a traditional family is very bad idea, with or without God. God bless you, and may he take care of you forever.
39Mustangman 1 year ago
msnbc is a joke. i can't think of anybody that watches that channel
andyottito 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
vincey-sorry you are so intolerant and hateful towards this man and the work he does to help people who have unwanted homosexual feelings.
It's you choice not to believe the blatantly obvious but why would you attack him and the people he has successfully helped to rehabilitate from homosexuality?
It's like an alcoholic having another drink and making fun of a reformed alcoholic
garysher3 2 years ago
@ gary
You're an idiot. I'm gay myself and this man disgusts me! YES, one is born gay. NO, one canNOT change it in any way. The ones who "come out straight" as this idiot says, are not happy at all inside. That's impossible. There is no gene that determines homosexuality, but it is definetly biological and set by nature as jthompson1990 says. This is utter ignorance at level which is staggering so fast I can't believe it. No wonder, the gay community is so intolerant: (continue-->>)
Vinceyboy93 2 years ago
you seem like you're a scientist or something. I'm gay too, and NO you are not born gay, NEITHER do you choose to be gay. It has to do with UPBRINGING and psychology. In my years of bachelor's and master's studies in science, I have not one day found proof or even theory to explain what you say, and believe me I searched until my guts came out of my stomach because I wanted to know so much about it because I believed it. ME AND U ARE NOT BORN GAY. I'M SORRY TO BREAK IT TO U.
MrDetwaa 2 years ago
I wholly agree with you. I'm no scientist, but I took a human sexuality class and most cases DO have to do with upbringing and pyschology! Another interesting thing is a study they did in Australia with identical twins, where there were cases where one was gay, and the other wasn't...
andyottito 2 years ago
this man is telling gays that they have some kind of psychological disease which can be cured! Who one's attracted to is determined by ones body and brains, NOT ones mind. Some are unhappy with their orientation, but sooner or later they have to accept it's what your body/nature wants. And.. I must say... this man's just GOTTA be darn religious... >.>"
Vinceyboy93 2 years ago
Homosexuality cannot be changed because its innate. I dont think its a gene, but its defo biological. The rare few that say they have changed havent changed on the inside. They are just kidding themselves. Gay people who arent happy are only unhappy because of homophobia. Im gay and very happy. I get up, eat, go to uni, have relationships, have a social life. Sound!
jthompson1990 2 years ago 4
Africans are idiots
where else in the world would this crap be taken seriously
grai 2 years ago
And I'm not sure what you mean by 'genuine' feelings. Surely alcoholics, pedophiles and smokers all have genuine feelings too?
garysher3 2 years ago
Ginny-but why are you so desperate to deny even the possibility that rehabilitation can work for some homosexuals?
I agree it may not work for everyone and the same is true for smokers, drug addicts and alcoholics.
In all cases involving psychotherapy the most important factor is that the individual truly WANTS to change.
I'm amazed at how intolerant the homosexual community appears to be on this issue
garysher3 2 years ago
And for Rachel to try and blame Cohen for the actions of a wacko minority in Uganda is the worst type of fraudulent 'guilt by association'.
She should be ashamed and stick to politics instead of pushing her hardcore anti-Christian, pro-homosexual views on every show.
garysher3 2 years ago
Ginny-if you watch the entire interview you will hear Cohen say he loves all homosexuals and only offers treatment to those with unwanted homosexual feelings.
Genuine attachment to another person of the same sex is not the same as homosexuality- as you well know.
To say or imply that everyone with homosexual feelings is happy with that condition, or that people cannot be successfully rehabilitated, is extremely disrespectful to corrected gays.
garysher3 2 years ago
Gary -- okay, how do I say this? I don't agree with just about anything you've ever said in this comment thread, however I suppose I agree that not every person who has attractions to someone of the same sex is happy about that, and I do not want to disrespect those who aren't happy with thier orientation; that's never been my intention....
(I'm going to continue this on another post, since the character limit YouTube allows is rediculously low!)
GinnyRamone 2 years ago
However, first off, your statement that genunie attraction is different from homosexuality is wrong. I can't give you the history of how the term "homosexuality" came to be, but it is generally regarded as a term to describe anyone with feelings of same-sex attraction, genuine, and, I suppose, ingenuine.
My other big argument is that while maybe "rehabilitation" can work on some people, a) I have never met a gay person whose attraction to someone of thier gender is ingenuine (cont.)
GinnyRamone 2 years ago 2