Britain On The Brink - Part 4 of 4

[TheBlackWhirlwind]

Great video all round. Good to see former Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky giving his support against the EU. When a man who served 12 years of unlawful imprisonment under on of the worst and longest running modern tyrannies speaks out, you know the situation is serious.

[makjac46]

For such a large and important move from a single country to a "one country" Europe!

Shouldn't we have, as free people, the right to vote on such a big change? No? Why not? Are we already under the power of a foreign Government that we never voted for? No? Then why aren't we given the right to hold a referendum?

[ukusapillage]

by the way ppl in eu say and do whatever they want in general everybody knows that since the 80s europe has lived its best days as a economical and political unity while preserving still their own cultures, what pisses of the brits is that their commonwealth bullshit is crumbling euro was gaining massive power as a currency with many petro countrys selling their oil and wanting euros leave our problem.to ourselfs like we do to your problems witch are many, this close minded divisions are old

[ukusapillage]

the eu is just bunch countrys that alone would not have much power but togetyher they have the power to face any challenge, and this is what really fucks with brits minds, they see their old colonial usa canada aust. undermined and their tactics of divide to conquer fucked, brits care only about destroying other to get ahead, always did always will, the eu is here to stay wheter they wanted or not, it will grow more not shrink, while usa uk will implode

[ukusapillage]

brits can do whatever they want nobody eally cares if thy get in the euro or not, but they try to destroy the euro and that is what pisses me off, comparing it to soviet union is ridiculous, in eu or in england the man who are in charge are never elected the ppl who rule the uk are the banks just like eu, the rest is bla bla bla the future of the world will be without borders, soviet union was a army communist dictatorship hidden from the world with no econo or politcal ties eu is the opposite

[TheJbach]

Google:  organized stalking. The armed forces, the media, federal and state "government" bodies, as well as numbers within the professions, are all deeply into the surveyed demoralization and control of people world over.... perversity and evils untold!

[munchkin365]

@cyclekarl sorry I'm confused. You are saying that I am "wrong about the Euro because Britain isn't part of it" - don't understand what you are saying. I said "Britain has not joined the Euro meaning that Britain using the Euro which we are not but we are a part of the EU. Don't understand what I have got wrong here!

[munchkin365]

@cyclekarl The UK was dominated by the Germans long before the EU came into being. The Royals are actually Saxe-Coburg-Gothas. This is probably one of the reasons why the UK has not joined the Euro after all they are all over our currency

[capricious71]

They won't give us a referendum but why...?

What does the government in office for 5 years care about the long term?

[dave85333]

there has been no refurendum for us to vote no so how we meant to stop it happening if we r not allowed to vote

[princeeverlove]

You know as well as I History is REPEATING ITSELF. Sadly, Herbert W. Armstrong, an astute observer of History, saw this coming even before WW2 ended! He saw Europe rising from the ashes and going underground--until NOW. This omen of things to come will be a double-cross against America/Britain/Israel. Myth? WATCH AND SEE. God have mercy on us all.

[paul14685569]

what is our motivation to change the work of the deceiving union, while i sit comfortably in my chair watching youtube or tv i just let the world go by.

Only a hand full of people with conviction do something, to get the people of britain behind them is their biggest challenge, i need to be informed how to act against such criminals not just what they are doing. This information should be broadcast everywhere possible, you tube is great but the views for this vid are poor.

[fireicer]

@paul14685569 Protest. we are by the looks of things at the brink, they will be putting up the gun towers soon. Life is changing i know it is because were living that change. All we need do if search the info on how to start the biggest protest ever.

[smoodiemac]

Communist EU great just when you thought it couldn't get any worse !

[NicosMind]

Also have to agree with the guy at the end how corruption was built into the Soviet Union from the top down, and its the exact same in the EU.

[NicosMind]

lol ive left two comments on this video and both of them have came up after ive said them. Actually, 3 of them have came up after ive said them.

The european union is not free trade like the US is.

The european union is more like the Soviet Union.

And the accounts are knowlingly falsified.

Anyway heres another point thats not in it. We have a new EU gestapo, a police force who can operate without fear of prosecution.

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and the results

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[FrogKillr]

excellent video!!!

[kaffersrebel]

The Russian bloke states that we have choice. Funny, I don't recall having a referendum, and the tories will certainly NOT give us one, so where's the choice?

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

"The best way to defeat the British Empire, is to ignore it"

Eamon DeValera

The same could be said of the superstate i beleive.

[comicmania2008]

REFERENDUM ON BRITAIN IN THE EU.

N O W !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why wont LIB/LAB/CON give us a referendum then?. It's really quite simple, if Europe is so fantastic, the Great British general public will vote for for it - wont they? My arse they will. The man in the street is sick of the EU, and sick of the bent expenses fiddling LIB/LAB/CON EUROpact.

VOTE FOR UKIP.

[twinturbine]

Sorry, but I've watched all 4 of this videos & I haven't seen any sources cited or impartial evidence shown. Just postulating

I don't trust their apocalyptic visions or politics of fear

If you want to do right by Britain, study INDEPENDENT research (not their books obviously) & vote accordingly

Personally, I'm in favour of a sovereign UK (which we'll be) playing a key role in the EU. Vote UKIP & we'll have a minor role, at best, or leave the EU & hand ourselves to the US as always, at worst

[comicmania2008]

Yeah we heard you the 1st TWO times.

Come the British referendum on EU membership, Britain will be back in the hands of Britain's again, then we'll see the rest of rotten Europe fall apart without our £40million pounds a day propping it up. VOTE UKIP, it's the only party that is going to drive a referendum. A referendum is the only FAIR thing to do for the good British people.

[twinturbine]

comicmania2008: That's the kind of single mindedness, without facts or reason, I'm talking about

Ask yourself:

"£40m" are you SURE? If so why? What does it get us long-term? Have you balanced that with the benefits of the EU (e.g. Britons can now live & work anywhere in the EU)? What's the long run benefit to Britain? Can the EU offer an alternative to the horrors of ultra-nationalism? Will the UKIP REALLY help Britain?

Be British, not American. Look beyond emotions & short term interest

[comicmania2008]

Whoo Hoo... I just love the idea of working abroad NOT! Been there and done it tar, and you people just don't get it do you? I do not want a job in flammin Poland cleaning out nuclear reactors for £3 and hour, I want to live and work in "FREE" England, a place my Father and Grandfather AND I fought for. I bet Tony Bliar, Cameruin and Flash Gordon just love you.

EDEX.

[twinturbine]

comicmania2008: Well mate, in addition to plagiarising TWO American cultural references, that wasn't very mature.

I get it. You fear the UK will become a province of a super state (which is fantasy) & you don't want to know how you might not be right. Sorry, that's pretty simplistic.

So is the argument of the UKIP.

Look, I want Britain to be better & free. But the EU is no tyranny & Britain can help lead it, or it can isolate itself into irrelevance.

No convincing you though, I suppose

[comicmania2008]

Then what do you fear about having a referendum then? SURELY, it would be a very 'mature' thing to have one wouldn't it? NAH, the Europhiles don't want one 'cause they just know that the British would vote against it. You do know that don't you? And that's what you fear most. If you can't win an argument, then try to ridicule the reasoning, and if you can't win a vote, make them vote again - Re Eire / Lisbon Treaty - how democratic NOT!

[twinturbine]

comicmania2008: I'm afraid you're making things up now

I never said not to have a referendum. Lets have one. No scaremongering, no untruths by either side. A PROPER debate with real facts then we'll see

The benefits of the EU haven't been spelled out because its obvious for the reasons I've mentioned & more. The benefits should be made clearer to the public & fears put to rest, a referendum would help that

And mate, its you who's been making stuff up & writing sarcastic insults, not me. Sorry

[comicmania2008]

I'm pleased you at least agree to a referendum. Though I doubt if the EU gestapo will allow it somehow, this is not a site you can debate on, I'm not going to clip links and stuff. It's just spamming this poor chaps vid. Also, it says in the vid that a list of booklets / pamphlets etc is avail at the end of the film. This YT clip does not give that, but come on, you don't have to look far for info. Proper debate and followed by a referendum - YES, all agreed then! Have a good evening:)

[twinturbine]

And a belated good evening to you too :)

In the interest of open debate may I suggest googling "euromove"

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

THe EU is total tyranny. Albiet fast approaching such a stage.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

But being so confident, outline to me the benefits of the EU. If you would be so kind.

[twinturbine]

Our tyranny is that of our isolation, a Britain trapped by her past, pining for past glories that often came at the expense of others. Glories cut short because they were unjust & costly, but also by WWII, a bankrupting war of European division ending our predominance over world affairs

If the EU overcomes nationalism & stops us, as sovereign nations, from killing each other again it will be worth it

The details & cost are up for debate, but the EUs utility on that alone is unquestionable

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Oh that its just cliched jargon. The attitude that there is nothing outside the EU. We are a world trading nation and still a world class power. And the EU is stripping both from us by saying we cant have trade arrangements with other countries. We might get a better deal, and the trade might help the LEDCs but ah, we wouldnt be traing with the EU would we?

[twinturbine]

I never said there was nothing outside the EU

The EU clearly has more negotiating power than the UK alone. Within the EU we can secure better trade agreements with ALL our interntaional trading partners (not just LEDCs), have access to efficient supply chains (finance, labour, logistics, etc) in the EU (not just access to the common market) &, with 61m Britons strongly influence the EU polices & trade agreements

Plus Britons can live & work anywhere in the EU economically benefiting us

[twinturbine]

As for being a world power, Briton no longer rules the waves. We are America's spear carriers. We go to war when they say, we have permanent US bases on our soil, Trident only works with their consent, ideologically we follow them, economically they dominate us & we ape them culturally. As we have since '45

The status quo is intolerable in terms of sovereignty

I'd rather Britain be at the helm of the EU with France & Germany than remain in America's servants quarters

[twinturbine]

You wanted a list of EU benefits, here are some:

Safer & cheaper flights, Student exchange programmes, The Single Market, Protection of intellectual property, The Euro (given the state of the £), Regional funds for development, Cheaper & better phone calls, Better consumer protection, Better access to healthcare, Increased environmental protection, Better anti-discrimination laws, increased external trade, Improved individual rights, Better access to job markets for Britons, easier travel

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Safer flights? Certainly not cheaper flights. Student exchanges are not an enourmous plus on the national scale. And also, i go to a school where many asian and american pupils are aducated with me, it also conducts a Russian exchange. Last time I checked they were not in the EU. The single market is absolubtly stagnant compared to the US and asia. The Euro, is experimental at best. European exports are now approaching some of the least competitive in the world.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Im sure most Britons are in no mood to sacrifice their independence and right to self determination for getting rid of the half an hour at passport control.

[twinturbine]

I guess you missed the years of national carriers, it was incredibly expensive.

I was referring to universities

What EU exports are you referring to?

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

wait im finishing that last one

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

The EU parliment and institution in general do not value debate or democracy. the value only sychophantic devotion. Jose Barroso said that opponets of the treaty were mentally ill, and his colleauge Martin Schulz said that ratification of the treaty must continue despite no vottes in 3 different countries.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

On another issue, when Vaclav Klaus pleaded for the EU to have internal debate about its direction and purpose, Irish MEP Avril Doyle stood up and said the debate was the pathway to "chaos in our corridoros". Those were her exact words.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

I mean, to stand up and say that democratic debate about such a subject will bring chaos? I mean it's just so uncannily resemblant to quotations from The Nazi Reichstag, and indeed as mentionned in this video, the Supreme Soviet.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

And Mr Bukovsky, of all people, should be listened to. EU intelligencia, i i do not mean this as a personal slur, are indeed deserving of such a title, but there is a difference between Inteligence and Expertise. They have so much paper qualification and yet they have so little idea. And the fact that when someone like Bukovsky says this is where we are headed, its not going to work, and is then ignored just proves that the EU is just a classic utopia project born of the vanity of intelectuals.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

If you are reffering to the point about student exchanges, that too is a farce to be brutally honest. Most britons choosing to atend university abroad go to the US anyway.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

ANd seeing as english is the worlds most wideley spoken and recognized language, you can forgive people for not being too keen on learning a mass of languages. We will always need our linguists, just not that many.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Oh and before i leave for tonight, one more thing:

Dont patronise me.

Good night.

[twinturbine]

Jesus, kid... Get a life...

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Is that it? I have a life. And unlike you i know what im doing with it. Perhaps its time you took a session of self examination and ask yourself if you picked the right side.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Besides learning language is not like learning science or maths. It takes vocation.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Regional funds are simply stepping on local government, and is largely squandered on bogus projects and these "regions" are simply a way to eliminate our county system, and replace it with enormous internal beuraucracy. Cheaper phone calls ill give you, but lets face it, the majority of british people dont make a call to the continent every day. These consumer protection laws are government getting involved in business matters, disaster brewing there, and to be quite frank, the laws are unfair.

[twinturbine]

Can you cite any cases of regional funds mismanagement & are the causes fixable within an EU framework?

Agree on the phone calls (helps my life)

It is generally agreed consumer protection laws are a good thing that are required in most societies. But which ones are unfair? Can't be all of them

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Consumer activism is by far the more effective tool, which is a fair deal for small businesses, instead of caving in to corporationism. THe healthcare is an absolubt joke. As with all institutions under the European wing it has become bogged down in the beaureucratic quagmire. European patients are now prepared to pay for flights to the USA and Japan for better and quicker treatment.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

THe common agricultural policy is an absolubt environmental disaster. Our once pleasant rural landscap is now just another industrial prarie, with what was once productive farmland now a blight on the landscape. Its not all about emissions you know. And if it is, the why doesnt the EU stop pissing around with lightbulbs, and make catylic converters mandatory on all cars?

[twinturbine]

Regarding 'agricultural policy' and the disaster, can you give me some evidence?

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Anti discrimination laws are completely bogus, and an example of this infectious political correctness gang chant. Banning the N word. What the hell does that do? Discrimination laws regarding women in a profession were made by the UK government. All these new discrimination laws do is discriminate against the native populace. There is a major difference in being polite and being politically correct.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Increased external trade is an absolubt lie. Our venues for trade have been reduced becuse the EU now dictates our trading policy, forbidding us from making trade arangements with other nations like india, china and the USA. Improved individual rights is a lie. The biggest surveilance program in the world, the stockholm program, is rapindly reaching completion stage. ANd now under EU law, Britons can be extradited on any allegation, without any evidence.

[twinturbine]

Can you show me evidence of this "lie". Also which extradition law are you referring to?

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

One such evidence is Andrew Symeou and Jonathan Hiles. Hiles was fatally injured at a nightclub in Greece, and Greek authorities placed the blame on Symeou, even though there was little evidence to place him at the scene of the crime. Yet still, he was exradited under EU law. You think the British justice system is bad right now? In Greece you can spend literally months in prison, not a police station like here inthe UK , without charge. ANd that is exactly what happened.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Specifically he was arrested under an EAW or European Arrest Warrant.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

And also, to which lie are you reffering.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

ANd it may be true that the EU carries more negotiating power. But only just. And it only uses that power in its own interest, NOT our national interest. And this thing about, British "influence" in the EU parliament. Illusion. There is so much double dealing behind closed doors that only "seperatists" like UKIP stad up as the opposition. PARTICULARLY on the Lisbon Treaty. From watchin footage of the so called debate i can rule one thing:...

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Job markets ABROAD. Its good for them, but what kind of good does that do us? And it is beacuse of Eastern European migrants that many are leaving anyway. Because there is little or no work anymore. Protection of intellectual property just confirms that the EU is nothing more that a monument to the vanity of the intelligencia. He who controls the currency controls the country. To that effect, adopting the economic Euro prison means giving away a massive chunk of our independence.

[twinturbine]

I did say "Better access to job markets for Britons", meaning Britons can live and work in the EU, a huge benefit for those who take advantage of it. Sadly we are notoriously lazy when it comes to learning different languages which is something of an embarrassment for us.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Would you like me to start on the cons now?

[twinturbine]

The tone of your well rehearsed diatribe & the fact you avoided my other more philosophical points of sovereignty indicates you have already made up your mind

You haven't presented any sources or examples so I can't agree, though I concede the EU has faults I prefer it succeed than fail. It is a noble cause that could be used as a blueprint to to bring peace & cooperative unity to other regions. I would prefer the UK be part of it than remain in America's shadow

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

ever consider that this is youtube and life has other fruits? give me some time man.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

Just have some patience and ill get there

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

The amout of resources and proof was too lenghty to be simply compressed, and some are agreeably debateable, but some are absoubtly concrete.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

And there is a vast difference between philosophy, and the application of philosophy as doctrine.

[EurocratsComeNotHere]

THe EU never stopped anyone killing anyone. It has kept no peace. THe real peacekeeper was NATO. How many EU flags did those in Georgia see? Or in Kosovo? How about Former Yugoslavia? None. All of Europe's crisises from the Red threat to massacres in Eastern Europe were handled exclusively by NATO. Radovan Karadžić wasnt tried at the EU court of justice was he? He was tried in the Hague. Which is a far more legitimate court.

[twinturbine]

Obviously the EU offers economic unity & peace to MEMBER STATES ONLY. Not to be an intervening military force in Georgia or Baltic states (which I never said), if it were I'd be very worried

NATO is an outdated American dominated alliance designed to counter the Soviet threat. Its now expanding to incorporate countries (Georgia/Ukraine) that could draw us into a war with Russia & challenge China, I see NATO as a bigger threat to our security & sovereignty than a less aggressive EU

[twinturbine]

comicmania2008:

The real question is:

How can Britain, as a major power in the EU, guide the EU to serve Britain's people better, maintain our sovereignty & make the EU a politically, philosophically & economically competitive blueprint for other regions to follow?

If we're outside we get left behind

With 61m people it is us who will change the EU, not the other way around

Remember, the purpose of the EU is to prevent another war. If the last two were anything to go by, its worth it

[doeelectro]

True words from the last guy, This should be shown in schools. im glad i voted BNP

[jellybellyterry]

Blair is expecting to collect his reward for his treachery against the British people soon. He even changed his religion under instructions from Berlusconi since there are more catholics than protestants in the eu.

We have been shafted by all politicians. Vote UKIP. Get us into the European Free Trade Association the same as Switzerland

[gash2024]

Its high time we got out of the EU, i will give my last breath if it means my country can leave the EU.

No to the EU, yes to an independent UK.

[ammorreztristar]

We need a referendum NOW !

[fireicer]

@ammorreztristar yes we do. i dont care what they call it Europe, European etc. All our fathers, grand fathers and great grandfathers fought in ww1and ww2 for our freedom which risks being lost. Every veteran that has ever fought and died for this country would turn in there graves. He who votes to stay in the EU after this years antics is disrespecting every veteran/hero who died for this country and its right of freedom, our freedom.

[makjac46]

@ammorreztristar Lets be aware of one thing, we, the people, are the force, we DEMAND a referendum or else we will smash every politicians house, car and building, we will starve them, we will blockade the airports, the ferry ports etc. Too over the top? I don't think so. We are starting to get desperate and we SHOULD do all we can to ensure a referendum. We have a right to a referendum or we will kill for that right.

[pieman97405]

To open with, EU=USSR!

Secondly, I want Britain out of the EU (this coming from an American), united groups of countries are doomed to fail (countries, not states), just look at the USSR, and the LoN. I want Britain to remain indapendent, but if all else fails, they could jump ship and join America as a state, I know it must sound bad, but a state of America, is better then being in the new USSR, is it not? Heres to a free Britain, or at worst, the 51st state in America, and death to the EU.

[sidensvans54]

The EU is a Disaster

[ingeralhaosului]

I believe that the EU will be successful were the USSR failed because it is moving more slowly and it is eroding national identity over many generations not blowing it up like the USSR did. Not to mention the reason the the USSR broke up was not a stop in expansion but the revolutions in member states and they were caused by hatred of the paranoid dictatorial rulers.And remember is the insane rulers that have given comunism a bad name.

[RenditionsTune]

Great set of films. Well done. I'm just amazed that I didn't know about this before.

Unfortunately both the Conservative Party and UKIP tend to be very reactionary and concentrate on small issues (i.e. the cost of the EU) not the real issues of democracy.

June 4th is European election day in the UK. Go out and vote for someone who represents your views, not necessarily your party. Make this your referendum, since the labour government has reneged on their promise for a vote on the treaty.

[UKMonarchist]

don't panic I'm on a public service course and everyone who is 18 or over and is eligable to vote voted for UKIP so theres hope yet.

[dave777blaster]

Very nicely done chaps.

The bottom line is if the central govt is not elected by the people or is not accountable to the people.

It is Communist ,as such we know that communism always comes with the cull of the people who do not accept it.

[sim0b]

I shall join the UK resistance. SOE!

[LeamingtonSteve]

mäßiger anstieg Kreig- the path the the 4th Reich

[Albionbornbad]

all hail

[zzxzqwq]

The EU has an elected parliament. The president has to be appointed by the wlected leaders of each nation. The commissionars have to be appointed by elected leaders how on earth does that compare to the soviet union. :

[sunset002007]

lol. ssssss. ;-) that kind of mini serie is for geniuses..... and british "patriots" (like US ones..against Obama); only they can understand. ok, i think i got it : comparing EC to Hitler fascism in ep2, now to soviet union! ok ok ! NWO = Satan on Earth. ok ok. Obama=AntiChrist. ok ok. EC=NWO operative hand for Europe. ok ok. NWO=supra national entity=fascism ok ok. Obama is NWO puppet = wants to put USA into fascism too. ok ok. citizens worldwild will be changed into slaves ok ok. omg........

[Pwecko]

The parliament is elected but has no power. Only the unelected Commission can initiate legislation. People in the UK were told they were joining a Common Market - a free market - not a European superstate. The giving away of our sovereignty was illegal and amounted to treason.

[zzxzqwq]

No it was voted on. The commission is appointed by elected governments.

[Pwecko]

I assume this comment is a reply to me. What was voted on? We entered the Common Market without a vote in 1973. In 1975, there was a referendum asking if we wanted to stay in. The government produced a lot of propaganda telling us that we should stay in. Ted Heath lied when he said that we would not lose our sovereignty. They all lied when they told us it would not lead to a 'United States of Europe'. It has led to that. When the Lisbon Treaty is ratified, Europe will be a country.

[Pwecko]

The Commission is chosen by the leaders of the various governments but they are not chosen directly by the electorate. Nobody would have chosen a known cheat and liar like Peter Mandelson as our Commissioner. Nor would they have chosen Neil Kinnock and his wife in 1995. The post of Commissioner is a gift from the Prime Minister. We cannot get rid of the Commissioners. They are not elected yet they make our laws. This is not democracy.

[zzxzqwq]

So it is an appointed positions by elected governments just as positions in the civil service are appointed. The commissions decisions have to be ratified by paraliament it is democracy,.

[zzxzqwq]

Yes we voted on it and stated in how does that mean we did not vote. Ted Heath did not lie look at the literature for the referendum there was no lying. Everyone accepted sovreingty would be shared.

[Pwecko]

This is what Ted Heath said: "There are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe, we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty. These fears, I need hardly say, are completely unjustified." Copy it and search. Heath, and Wilson after him, knew what was happening but they knew that we in Britain would not accept giving up our power to a foreign body. So, they lied about it. Today's politicians are still lying. You are either very naive or you work for the EU.

[zzxzqwq]

No you are naive. At the start of the speech he said essential sovreingty anyone can take a quote and misread the speech. People were not as stupid in those days as you seem to think. People knew what they were voting for.

Heath said that joining the EEC would be "an expression of our sovereignty rather than any diminution".

Is being in the UN or NATO a loss of sovreingty

[Pwecko]

Which bit of our sovereignty is 'essential'? All of it. When the Lisbon Treaty is passed, there will no longer be a United Kingdom. ALL of our sovereignty will have gone. Most of it has gone already. The people did NOT know what they were voting for.They were told that they were joining a free trade area. That's it. I was there. I remember it. The UN and NATO are organisations, not countries. We have the choice as to whether to be members or not. The EU is a new state which has taken us over.

[zzxzqwq]

No it is not. NATO ensures that we have to go to war if any of the nations are invaded. That is a far bigger removal of sovreingty. The people did know what they were voting for you take quotes out of context read the entire speech. They new they were getting a organisation that shared food policy and other regulatuions,. People are not dumb,

[Pwecko]

Let's have some context. In the sixties, the Common Market had high tariffs which made it difficult for the UK to trade with it. The people were told that if we joined we would be able to trade freely. We were not told that the UK would be destroyed and would be ruled from Brussels. If we had been told that there would be a new country called Europe, we would not have joined. The politicians lied. May I ask how old you are? Were you around and old enough to know what was going on in 1970?

[zzxzqwq]

No we were told we were told their was a commission, and we would share sovreingty.

[Pwecko]

No we weren't. If we had been told exactly what was involved, we would not have joined. Ask 99% of people over the age of about 50 what they were told about the Common Market and they will tell you the same, that it was a free trade area which would allow us to trade within the Common Market. We were not told what the consequences would be. Please answer my question. How old are you?

[zzxzqwq]

Nope I know people of that age and they knew what they were voting for. If you did not that is your fault. The information was in the public domain. People taked about euriope havivng a single currency in a few decades time. It was not just a free trade agreement everyone knew that do not lie.

[Pwecko]

Ah, so you weren't around and you don't know. Just because information is "in the public domain" does not mean that people know about it. There is a great deal of info that it "in the public domain" that you and I do not know. I am not lying. At the time of the referendum, Wilson and Heath both recommended that we stay in and Heath lied about our loss of sovereignty. The public did not know that it would lead to a European superstate. You are repeating what you have been brainwashed to believe.

[zzxzqwq]

That is not true you have taken one line from Heath out of context where talked about esseintial sovreingty people knew what powers would and would not be shared they knew the potential ambitions of the union. People knew the issues do not patronise those people.

[Pwecko]

I am sorry but you are wrong. Read some books about it. Read The Great Deception. The review on Amazon says 'If they haven't [read this book], they don't know what they're talking about.' I'm afraid you don't know what you are talking about. Read The Rotten Heart of Europe, Britain Held Hostage, Disappearing Britain, The Last Days of Britain, Castle Of Lies and others. Once you have read some of them, tell me that you really think people knew what they were getting into. Until then, shh.

[zzxzqwq]

Look you are conning people. People knew what they were voting for. There were debates in the house of commons from people like Enoch Powell and Tony Benn who put forward their case. People knew what the issues were. Are you saying Powell and Benn were not allowed to give their side. This is just rubbish. It is con trick to pretend people were dumb int the 70s. People knew what they were voting for. I notice the we didn't knew what we voted for only started 20 years after.

[zzxzqwq]

TWO WORDS

1) BENN

2) POWELL.

Tell me do you think they would have allowed anyone to put forward fake arguments. Heath was honest enough, but you missinterpret and missquote passages of his speeches out of context to claim he lied anyone can do that. What happens is someone deliberately missreads a book then bases an entire book on that missquote, then it gets built up into ta fake argument.

[Pwecko]

What are you talking about?  The arguments for the Common Market overwhelmed those against. Benn and Powell were marginalised. Benn was caricatured as being of the loony left and Powell as a racist.

Regardless of what we were told, we did not have a choice as to whether we entered the Common Market. It was done by Heath without public assent. The referendum was two years later under Wilson. It was to vote for staying in or leaving. You are the one who is trying to con people. Research.

[zzxzqwq]

They were not marginlised they had coverage on the TV and had plenty of time to put their case forward for years. Grow up. You are talking rubbish. You are suggesting Powell and Benn were banned from TV what rubbish We voted to stay in, what difference does it make whether or not it was to stay in or go in.

[Pwecko]

I'm suggesting nothing of the sort. And it makes a great difference. You obviously weren't around. I am not wasting any more time on you. Your mind is closed. Back in 1973, I was all for the Common Market because I thought we were entering into a free trade area, as did most other people. We were lied to by the government and opposition. Benn and Powell were viewed as extremists of the left and right. That's it. I will not continue writing. You are free to have the last word. But you are wrong.

[zzxzqwq]

That is not true Benn was in government. There was a clear detail of the ideas put forward.

[stopjunkscience]

Working for the EU is simply about a personal lifestyle. You are there to 'rubber stamp' everything you are told to. The EU is pure 'showbusiness'...total pretence all show and no substance regarding truth, fairness and democracy!

[zzxzqwq]

VOTE I C U P I saw you pee.

[tisFrancesfault]

vote ukip!!!

[boccabr]

What's the real problem? The Ignorant Public. Who will allow this to happen. The EU dictators know this already. That's why they'll get away with it. Only Then, will the Public wake up, when their Bills start shooting up, they'll complain. They'll be too fucking late, as usual. The price of Ignorance. No Freedom. But you see Sheep need to be mastered. Hence they will. Don't blame the EU dictators, blame the idiots on the streets who couldn't care less.

[Independence4Britain]

If only we had pulled out several years ago, with the recession, the European jobs reliant on the British market may no longer exist and thus, they may be more reluctant to allow a free market.

[dewdrop35]

This is truly frightening!!!!!!!!

[manalone999]

Frightening. Already the EU is planning to introduce laws that will limit freedom of speech. Imagine being judged by a European court in Brussels, by Muslim or pro-Muslim judges, for an offense against Islam. What chance would you have? Imagine the European police coming to get you in your cottage in Devon, or in your fishing village in Norway. Imagine what an Islamic Europe governed by Brussels would look like. It is BIn Laden's dream.

[skaisaliveandwell]

People of Britain, if you don't fight now, you'll regret it when you're unable to.

[deadrebel2]

Excellent thoughtful set of posts.

The EU is social fascism, unaccountable, you either want democracy or socialism, not a difficult choice for an Englishman.

I will be voting BNP against socialism.

[mnxsspgs]

nobody knows the true power of this european union, you cant stop it theres no point trying, resistance is futile like, as well as that notice how we dont know who these people are they're all back bench politicians bringing britian to a halt, first it was our empire, then they invited the immigrants, and now they're secretly joining us up into the eu without our knowledge. There you have our glorious government!

[caltontongs73]

in true democracy all the peoples of europe would be allowed to vote.but the govts of europe are obviously not democratic.

[green9832]

I like the way ukip have tried to hijack this film, don't be fooled vote BNP, the only true nationalist party within the UK!

[Independence4Britain]

Vladimir Bukovsky is a patron of UKIP!

[xRich420]

"And nobody will ever allow the EU to become a superstate."

I do not share your optimism.

[cuf53]

Hitlers vision come true

[caltontongs73]

you are right,it is a slow 4th riech!

[Albionbornbad]

all hail Hitler

[Miller6616]

If there are no BNP councillors in my area come the next election then UKIP will get my vote.Both parties want out of the EU.

[Indubitabil88]

Hahhaha, the USSR's sole purpoise was not to destroy national feelings, because it was a superstate ruled by RUSSIANS and it was characterised by RUSSIFICATION, do not compare the EU with that!

[DontStopMeNow11]

stop talking crap u dont know about

[Indubitabil88]

Don't know about?! My country was ruled by communists for 50 years, and had lands stolen from it by the USSR! You compare the EU with the USSR, but do you have any idea what the USSR was???

[DontStopMeNow11]

yes i do and the reason we say it's like what the ussr was like is because a country like ireland said no to the lisbon treaty whitch by the way is the same thing as the eu constition whitch the frence and the dutch both voted no on and the thing the eu needs to do is lision to the people and the prosses of the lisbon treaty ratification should stop and when it isnt its like bullying a nation into voting again

[Indubitabil88]

Well, Ireland is proof that the EU is not like USSR. The 15 soviet republics were under one rule: RUSSIA. The Irish had their word in the EU, as does any EU member nation. You think our brothers in Moldova, or the Baltics had any word in the USSR? They didn't. USSR was a dictatorship.

[DontStopMeNow11]

the thing that is wrong thow m8 is they want the irish to vote again whitch is wrong when the other member states havent even had a chance to vote

[Indubitabil88]

Yea I agree, the EU must be more democratic and transparent, and to work FOR ITS CITIZENS. But that means reforming the EU, not abandoning it wich would be a big mistake.

[DontStopMeNow11]

when my country hasnt even had a vote on it its and incredibley urgent union whitch doesnt take no for an awnser and it isnt democratic other wise they would keep there promises to the people of the eu and hold referendums in every state

[Indubitabil88]

Man I agree that the EU must be reformed. But Britain IS Europe, Romania IS Europe, after all the wars this continent had in its long history, we need cooperation between the European nation. The EU is not perfect and needs many changes, but the idea of an united Europe of soveriegn nations is great.

[Indubitabil88]

I ment European ntions

[Indubitabil88]

*nations

[DontStopMeNow11]

a commen market EU is all the uk signned up to we britian doent need or want to be a part of the Euro or the united states of europle

[Indubitabil88]

Nobody obliges you to addopt the euro as your currency. And nobody will ever allow the EU to become a superstate. You can pe proud to be British, I can be proud to be Romanian, and we all can be proud to be Europeans. Patriotism and European cooperation are perfectally suitable. If we all live on this continent, why not be united, but at the same time keeping our national identity?

[DontStopMeNow11]

yes the best way is trade but look we can still be united in the same corse but we dont have to be european to do this sorry i respect ur veiws but i am quit anoyed with the amount of power handed to brussels when it shouldnt be that way

[Indubitabil88]

Man, that power in Brussels is shared by all European Union member countries. And if the sharing is not fair enough now, than it should be improved. Europe is for us all. Here in the East we were cut off from the free Europe for 50 years, so understand why we support this.

[bermudarailway]

People of Britain wake up! I was at a meeting of Jimmy Goldsmith's Referendum party at Alexandra Palace in April 1997.One of the speakers there said and I quote "This is as bigger threat to this country as Goering's Luftwaffe." This statement I told to my late father who was an aircraft designer in WW2.He said "It is worse than that because it is comming from within."Dark days ahead unless we act now otherwise all those lives lost in WW2 will have been lost in vain.

[mattyr2k8]

smash the EU

eu = undemocratic dictatorship

[mattyr2k8]

smash the EU

eu = undemocratic dictatorship

[Chillart]

They learned a lot of lessons from the Nazis,the Soviet Union,the Chinese "experiment" etc.

Their dream is our NIGHTMARE!

[gatekeeper96740]

this is great!

this fits in with the yuri bezmenov video on google

[justanoone]

Here in the USA this describes our past current and future... Thank you for the heads up! EVERYONE should see this series no matter what Country they are from!

[kokeshififi]

thankfully we have options

[Chillart]

kokeshififi-what options?

Throw stones at the oncoming NWO army?

[kokeshififi]

self sufficiency, don't rely on others, grow your own, use personal transport, planet energy solar or wind, i know it's going to be difficult but we must rely on ourselves, try to imagine tomorrow with no supermarkets, energy suppliers, fiat currency, what would you have to barter with your neighbour?

[Chillart]

I agree but I live in an inner city apartment and am an artist,painter,really useful huh?

I've never done anything else-except work on a dairy farm for 9 months when I was cleaning up my act.

Other than that I worked for...the MEDIA(never going back)

[kokeshififi]

i too live in a flat, you can grow loads of veggies in pots indoors, potatoes, tomatoes, herbs, beans etc, it's like a big greenhouse :-)

[Chillart]

yeah you're right there,even with our disastrous drought and restrictions there's grey water and just careful management.The price of food,I live right near a fresh food market is ASTRONOMICAL.

There's a skip around the corner full of bricks I thought'd make a great earth retaining wall-I have a mainly bricked little yard-thanks for kicking my bum,I'll get onto it.

What about the traffic pollution?

[jackson32]

This is the best video I have seen on the EU. Lots of pertinent information. The EU has so little to recommend it and so much that is bad that it is remarkable that it gotten this far.