Birgenair Flight 301- Air Crash Investigation (Türkçe altyazılı) - Part 5

[ianrkav]

A bug caused this crash! When I first heard in part 1 the aircraft had been on the ground for 3 weeks I casually thought to myself, 'I hope they kept those pitot tubes covered, anything could crawl in there!' In part 5 it seems I was on right on the button. Fucking unbelievable in this day and age. For the want of a horseshoe nail eh!

[texan176]

Didn't the plane have GPS based air speed onboard? Something that used satellite triangulation and not sensors on the plane. A completely independent data source. Starting around 2005 civilian GPS car navigation had speed readout based on GPS for under $200 for the unit. A multimillion dollar jet should have had it back in 1996.

[ianrkav]

@texan176 That's what I said concerning another aircrash involving faulty pitot tubes. AirFrance flight 447 from Brazil. Apparently GPS is only good for groundspeed and not for aircraft at high altitude but considering this aircraft's low altitude I would think GPS would be another reliable indicator.

[GENIUS99999992345678]

toldja so, greaseball dogass lazy bitch mechanic

[GENIUS99999992345678]

greaseball mechanic must be from"that's not my job" new york

[puncheex]

As it says, the 757 has 5 different velocity measurements - 3 pitot tubes and 2 radar rates. It would seem to me to be an priority to determine which is correct by manual comparison (if the avionics doesn't), and then configure for one of those deemed accurate. One would think the AP would refuse to take control with different IASs; nice of them to add a warning. This same problem is what downed Air France and one other Air Crash I've watched. Air speed is one of the more vital measurements.

[TheHillbillyHermitt1]

Aero Peru 603 had a similar problem only 8 months later in October 1996. Eerie or what....

[trenespilot]

Ruhları şad olsun...

Geçelim konuya hiç kimse kusura bakmasın ama o kaptan neden donup kalıyor

madem donup kalıcaktın neden bu mesleği yaptın aslında bu onlar için bi imtihandı ve geçemediler Tecrübeli kaptan dediğin Thy nin amsterdam kazasını kurtaran kaptandır ! Birgen Air kazasında ölen kaptanlarımızın ruhları şad olsun ...

[mfinal]

@trenespilot Bu kazada pilotun tek suçu hız göstergesinin bozuk olmasına rağmen havalanması , daha sonra havada iken hız göstergesine inanıp overspeed durumuna kanıp, motordan gaz kesmesi sonra da birden gaza yüklenince full stall durumundan uçağı çıkaramamasıdır. Bu kazada komşum teknisyen necdet kürtül ile cüneyt aktürk ve kaptan pilot ahmet erdeme rahmet diliyorum

[trenespilot]

@mfinal

Bende pilottaa tek hata buldum zaten neden donup kaldı neden birşeyler yapmadı haaaa yok efendim ben pilot olucamda acil durumda donucam kalıcam yok öyle al eğitimini geç işinin başına kardeşim sizinde başınız saolsun ! ...

[Deniz1923]

araba yoldan çıktıktan sonra yol gösteren çok olur. Ruhları şad olsun. Hindsight is 20-20. May they rip.

[Benedettini93]

I strongly believe the control-taking for FO to even good survival would still lead to being dismissed by the request of experienced former-military pilot. HierarchİC systems....

[HALDUNTARGAN]

Some pilots even with thousands flytime are no use when the problem occurs like this case.Captain simply has killed everybody..It is said that stall recovery requires very common actions like nose down 5-10 degrees and 0,85 power setting while keping the wings flat...

[HALDUNTARGAN]

@scemozkan Diger yazılanları da oku..Benim bir yakınım THY de kaptan pilot.Bu gibi durumlarda stall recovery yazdıgım gibi olurmuş.BirgenAir ve son THY Amsterdam kazasında da Pilotun düşük süratı anlayamadıgı ,stall dan kurtulacak işlemi zamanında yapamadıgı yani bir pilotaj hatası oldugu acık..Air France kazası da benzer olay...Orada da pilot levyeyi itecegine çekmiş.. Bu durumlarda bazı pilotların alelade insanlar gibi davranması sana da korkutucu gelmiyor mu?

[scemozkan]

Next time you do your advices on your flights then. but before everything, watch carefully what you watch??? After this accident, authorities add another scenario to their simulators, "closed pitot tube scenario"? And also they re-created the flight after the accident and they saw that the test pilot freezed at simulator too when facing two important opposite alarm? 5:24. Bilmiş bilmiş yorum yapmayı bırak. cama kuş sıçsa uçak düşürürsün youtube'a gelince Howard Huges kesilirasin.

[lkenorekid]

What happened in this airplane can be explained as a creepy Turkish Military tradition.

The captain was a retired soldier.That is why neither the third pilot and nor the junior pilot next to him can do something except suggestions.

Basicly they did not dare to do it.

[madzane94]

Wow. Boeing Fails.

This video attracted me cuz it looked like an a320.

But obviously not xD

[SuperOlav01]

what a i diots, in a situation like this, 0 trhotle and 10' angle to controll the fucing spinn!

[brille2363]

I can't believe this a tiny insect can cause serious trouble in a modern airplane. This is terrible. Having watch this episode made me realize how fragile aircraft are.

[GameNewbie]

@brille2363 what cause the crash was not the insect... was the "experienced and arrogant" captain who didnt aborted the takeoff

[maxwellus000123]

what a waste of a plane

[Nera320]

@maxwellus000123 Idiot... not the plane you moron, THE INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES

[Pojo714]

Stupid Wasps

[loch70]

When an experienced captain doesnt do a simple thing like push the nose down when the aircraft is about to stall it makes me dont wanna fly.

[Jonathanrulze]

@loch70 It's not as easy as it looks. He didnt know that his speed was low as his indicator was broken. However he still should have aborted the takeoff.

[miriley6]

@loch70 Especially when he takes off knowing his instruments are malfunctioning! >.<

[Jigishu90]

I don't understand why the captain didn't get that the flight was stalling. He was gifted with the greatest senses - ie his own body. When I'm on an airplane I can feel it turning, descending and ascending. The captain should have felt g-forces and that should have told him the plane was in a stall.

[Nera320]

@Jigishu90 You should never trust what the body tells you when you dont have any visual reference to the ground, you rely on the intruments, but none of these pilots did. They were so dumb n stupid. They did know a simple stall recovery.

[minji1518]

Turkey?

[sammysosa2454]

yes, Birgenair is a Turkish charter company

[loveutube6]

nice...howd he die? Oh it was an incests fault. Man I cant blv so many ppl died coz of those workers stupid mistake.

[morikante007]

nobody's perfect including you.

[maxwellus000123]

@morikante007

yes but those pilots were faaaaaaaar from perfect. in fact mabye the opposite of perfect

[IQ20000Berta]

@morikante007 right, if things want to go wrong, they are very hard to stop

[MilliVanilli2007]

He could have stopped They say that so easily...easy to judge now but obviously it was a close call if they had to measure it and the guy was in a speeding plane, not much time to decide logically. what i dont understand is why they never took off and turned around to have it checked out?!