@koihoshi Like a dummy. I usually read all the info, Before making a comment. Do you still have the bike, How many miles so far. My brother has a yellow 07 Ninja 250r as well, It's for sale, Only has 6-7K miles for $1800.00. Just may buy it from him. Think the 4 gen models look the best, But the 3 gen are faster. Thank's, yl
@Nauttos I'm sorry but I couldn't tell you the answer on that professionally, this dyno run was for fun. I've heard from many of my track buddies that a dyno break-in is "the best method" but I'm not sure how long it would take. I would think that a dyno method would be preferable since you can measure your results and see the results, whereas breaking it on the street is going to be based on experience of engines, break-in, etc, etc... I'd contact a performance shop for that.
@kickastang Depends on the shop. The video you see was just a fun run, no sensors hooked up for torque, just hp. We paid $20 for fun runs. Normally a dyno run could run you anywhere from $50-150 it seems, just really depends on the shop. Your best bet is to find a shop that has one and just call up and ask around for prices since it isn't really a set price.
@guitarplaya1234 The only way a 250 ninja would go 0-60 that fast is if you put a totally different engine in it. They are about 5.5 seconds 0-60 that would be if you shifted it perfect in perfect conditions on a perfectly running 250 and a lightweight rider. Realistically it's closer to 6. With weight reduction and mods you might get it a little better than that. But they are not meant for acceleration. It's about as quick as my escort ZX2.
@MangoSmoothie16 Didn't say exactly, I said about as, as in "around that area", i think zx2s are closer to 7 or 8, still, slow. In other words "they claim 5.5, but it's still not a race car" :P
@MangoSmoothie16 yeah no worries man. my main point of the video was originally as an inside joke for my friends but people have had a lot of questions. I think RomeoEskobar's comment sums it up well, you'll learn a lot on these bikes. Great beginner bikes. But don't expect a superfast bike, nor one that's gonna go outperform a bunch of stuff. Great learning platform, lots of fun, good mileage. Don't think my zx2 could do that, my wife drives that car now anyway lol I don't touch it.
hey would you be able to tell me if my bike is running rich? i have good decent power up untill 11k rpm in 3rd gear it wont go past 11k rpm but with no load it will redline... with a load on 3rd gear it wont go past 11k rpm and looses power... the plug chop method doesnt really tell me anything it shows chocolate brown every time...
I bought a 07 250 last year and ppl have been asking me what it peaks out at, mph wise. I'm not the kind of guy to get it up over 80, so anybody got any comments to help me out in this area?
With the wind at your back and a slight downhill, maybe 110mph. If I recall, the fastest speed record set with a 250 was someone who TURBOcharged a 250 and got it up to about 125ish. Even the new 250 ninjas max out about the same. On average, with ideal conditions, in a normal setting, even at the track, maybe 100-105ish would be max. Anyone who would say otherwise is likely full of hokey unless they have something to prove it.
@koihoshi lol my 09 will hit 115 on a long slightly downhill stretch. However I only weigh about 140lbs. And thats with an almost empty tank. Although, considering how light that bike is I wouldn't recommended it.
@starhobo14 Mostly it was just an exaggeration. They aren't "really fast" bikes, so it's not worth arguing on the internet over who's 250 went 116 or 114. They're "in the ballpark" of about that speed. It's not bad, but it's no superbike. The lightweight doesn't make it dangerous. The small motoGP bikes (such as 125/250cc) are VERY similar in weight, actually.
@koihoshi Wow, I thought for sure they were lighter. After riding today though I can say that ANY lighter than it already is and it would just blow off the highway. I even had a passenger and the wind was playing with me to the point of heavy leaning. But I did get it up to 95 with my passenger. That surprised even me. But I think if it were any lighter, then you would be walking into danger.
which do you think are the best upgrades to get on a ninja 250? just got one 2 months ago and want to through a few upgrades on it. if you can name whats best in order to get would be great
get started with tires. then go to pods then full exhaust then stiffer springs and or/emmulators and a front braided line. buying a tuning is implied.
This dyno was a simple dyno run, no sensors hooked up and nothing to read torque unfortunately on this run. However, I have some tunes coming up for this little 250 and will get a full dyno and post that hopefully sometime this year with that data. If I recall, the 250 is around 15-17.
@SKStylez At this time the bike is up for the winter but i've got a few mods on the bike since this dyno vid. You can likely expect a dyno later in the winter or early next year. I've had some other projects i've been working on with my cars and ducati.
This seems like a great place to post this question. 95 Ninja 500 "pillowing" black smoke out of left exhaust. Left carburetor and output to engine FULL of gas. Bike is dripping gas off of engine while idling. Upon inspection air filter was crumbling like dried up birthday cake. Carb full of crumbly pieces of airfilter. Removed carb, cleaned carb body and components, inspected float height and reinstalled. Fixed the problem for about 50 miles and then same the same symptoms again.
Noob Question Alert. What are pod filters and how do they increase power? Besides that, great video and in addition to the lower comments the 250 is an amazing beginner bike. I started out on one and still ride it as fast as it'll go today. Its a great all around bike and its also very dependable. My only beef with it is the glorified dirtbike suspension. I'm trying to mod the tree so i can lower it a little and maybe stiffen up the ride a little bit.
pod filters basically remove your air box and replace it with filters that sit on the outside that quite literally and cylindrical "pods", it's like having an exterior filter instread of an airbox. With a rejet it allows more airflow.
rather than lowering the bike you can do things like more beefed up springs and thicker fork oil so you don't mess up the geometry of the bike's handling.
Any local store that sells performance parts and K&N products for bikes should be able to look up the pod filters for you. There is the standard part # and then one with chrome, there's only 2 choices that i'm aware of.
nahh its got just enough for for a beginner, plus it depends on how tall you are, and your strength as well, the 500 is a lil heavier than the 250. :)
any help would be appriciated. i normaly drive a car.(im 16) i have decided i want a motorcycle. i dont need anything fast. just something i can ride on warm days. what would be a good bike? i have no expirience with motorcycles
Some people have put larger wheels on it to get a better choice of tire selection which is a good thing for track days. People have turbo'd the motor before, didn't last long. Bore and engine swap is a waste of your time (just buy a new bike for that). However, going with pod filters, a rejet kit and exhaust will be a nice addition and a little wakeup. Some racers have put larger carbs on them too... but a bigger bike is always the shortcut to more power. Good bike as is.
dose the bike still run good with 2 people on it im 6'1 and 190 pounds..thinkin about buyin one..iv been riden bikes sence i was 3 and decided to buy one of my own...im a harley man straight up but think these are cool haha
It absolutely does. You will notice the reduction in acceleration, however, it does just fine. I'm around 130lbs, my ex was around 130lbs so together 260lbs and the bike didn't seem to care. Max load on these is well over 300lbs (i think around 350lbs). However, you can swap out the stock shock for a Ninja ZX6 A/B/C shock (hard to find but check ebay) to stiffen it up and carry more ;), that's what i put on it and it's done wonderfully.
i have heard that removing the intake snorkle will lean out the carb, i assume this would also give you more power. anyone know of any problems related to doing this and what kind of power increase it may result in?
If you can get ahold of a muzzy exhaust system for the 250 it'll get rid of all the weight that the stock pipes have. On top of that it requires you remove the centerstand, that as well gets rid of some weight. Removing the airbox and replacing it with pod filters.. fender reduction, removing the passenger peg and brackets, lighter battery if you can find one, removing toolbox, mudguard, there are many things you can do. They seem like a little, but add up.
Thanks for your quick reply. Do you think the expense of the muzzy exhuast is worth it? Which version would you suggest? How much weight does it save and what kind of power improvements can be expected when combined with some other engine modifications?
If you want to go all out then it's worth it. The muzzy exhaust gives you more clearance than the stock exhaust. And given a good rejet will gain you some power. The entire system is around 5 1/2lbs roughly, which is a good 10-15lbs in weight savings over the stock setup. As far as power, a rejet and exhaust on the 250 dyno'd is usually another 1-3hp total. But the weight savings added on top of it, your butt dyno will feel it :P
It's highly recommended to make sure that if you add /anything/ to your bike that you tune it to compensate for the way it will make the bike run. For instance if you add pod filters you should rejet to compensate for the extra air coming in to fix the air/fuel mixture. Same with pipes, without tuning the carbs or rejetting them you may cause the bike to run too lean which making a bike run too lean can either overheat it or burn up valves ;)
The ninja 250 is only capable of around 105-110 indicated. The only person who has actually ever gotten a TRUE 110+ (proven and clocked) was a guy who turbocharged his ninja 250 and got 115mph. It'll never be a /fast/ bike. You can improve your throttle response and a tad bit of acceleration but you'll get the most fun out of this bike in suspension and weight reduction.
Lol... no, it won't blow up, just makes it louder, but again, it may cause the bike to run a bit lean so you may have to richen up the mixture screws if you do that.
It won't run different, just sound different. The bike revs the same. Rich means there is more fuel to air being mixed when it enters the combustion chamber and ignites. Lean means there is LESS fuel to air (or more air to fuel, however you want to look at it) entering the combustion chamber when it gets ignited and is being mixed. The result is that the bike may cut out, not run efficiently or "bog down" if it's running too rich or lean and not make good power.
If you are looking for a bit more power a slip on system AND a rejet and tune will get you the most power and bang for your buck. A local performance shop can help you tune that in.
I couldn't tell because I've never heard a nina 250 with a stock exhaust system at high RPM. Sounds very respectable actually to be honest, I might not end up with a muzzy afterall lol
I'm currently saving for my first street going bike, which will be a ninja 250. I have previous riding experience, years upon years, but it's all enduro experience, so I think the 250 will be a nice way into the sportbike world.
hey i was just wondering my uncle has a yamaha r1 and i can reach the ground on my tippy toes and im 11 and i need a sports bike thats not a fake chinese pocketbike do you think this is the right bike for me? Right now i have a mildly tuned yamaha yz85 which is producing 24 hp on the dyno and i know all the clutch crap and i weigh 85 pounds and im 5 foot 1
Dyno'ing is putting your bike on a machine that measures how much power it makes. It doesn't "Make" power but lots of people will tune their bikes and make minor changes to it and dyno it again to see if it makes more power until they are satisfied with their tuning done to their bike. The result is knowing you made the most power on your bike that you could. A dyno is a tool more or less :)
thanks for the lesson. Im buying a 2008 ninja 250, Im thinking of adding a two brothers slip on. Can you recomend somethings to do to the bike to give it a little more hp, or to make it faster? thanks again in advance.
You don't know this yet but the Ninja 250 is FAST! I has enough power to lift the front end and more then enough to kill you. Don't worry about getting more hp out of it until you have ridden awhile.
Actually dyno'ing any bike during break-in for a full run through the rev range is a good, safe way to get extra hp (look up mototune break-in or break-in secrets on google)
But be sure to warm it up first completely and then change the oil afterwards
Dude! :-)I told Mototune how to break in an engine 15 years ago lol! Funny, one guy gets all credit and the gist is to get cylinder pressure behind the rings,push them against the cylinder walls, BEFORE the walls form glaze at high temps (then it takes a long time to break in). Email Pat McGivern and ask him. He's done a great job without taking other credit. It wasn't even my idea,it was an old mechanic's idea - that's why I never took credit for it :-) Marc/Factory Pro Tuning
well 16.1hp is low for a 250cc the new ninja 250r which is coming out on 2008 (they haven't anounced month yet as well as price) will have 32hp (which is the greatest legal limit for the lower lisence you can have in most countries)
It was officially dyno'd about 2 weeks ago (there have been a few dyno graphs show up) the 2008 has less compression than the old 250s and makes just a hair less HP. Roughly 1.5 less. Not a major difference. So dyno'd was about 26hp. The older 250s make 27-28hp if well tuned stock. I don't think it's a big enough difference in power that it would be a buying decision factor.
If you are wanting to get the most for your bike then tuning it and dyno'ing it will tell you for sure how much power you are making. If you put exhaust on it i would rejet it, but i'd do the intake first, exhaust and then rejet and dyno ;)
26.1 HP thanks. im 250 rode 2 girls. 1 @ 120, the other 150. traffic 70 we were fine. hearing the engine scream, but I love that, they did too. 6 times each. at least 3 hours on one occasion. have done 103 for continuous 20 minute sessions, but it wouldnt go faster. 2006 Ninja ex250 stock. currently 6600 Miles 3 oilchange. into making her a streetfighter as I fell at least 3X. Good bike the perfect start.
Muzzy exhaust 2 to 1 Titanium/stainless/or Carbon, 300.00 to 600.00. K&N air filt or cones 30.00 to 80.00. Dyna Stage III jet kit 100.00 ?. Remember more air = more power. My 06 gets up to 110mph and i weigh 200+lbs. Also, a Dremel tool make for a real clean rear fender, it'll save you a couple bucks on a fender eliminator kit
noobies need a cheap bike like this to mess up first then after you get used to it and not drop the bike anymore then you get a bigger bike unless you wanna get hurt & lose alot of money.
YOur right there, youll drop your bike like it or not no matter what, even if you are the best you will still drop it at some point..Better to put a few scratches on a 250 kawi than a 750 gsxr..
i totally agree with you.. And in most of these situations it's not your fault but the car driver's who can only see trucks or other car at the same size with his.. Let's face it the rest of the drivers do not respect motorbikes...
You won't know by hearing it. I'm the owner of the bike in the video, and I know it needs them tuned because it was running like crap and felt like it was making no HP. If you are unsure of the bike's performance or previous maintenance take it to a performance shop and have it tuned, that'll be your best bet.
It's going to vary from shop to shop. You can go as all out as you want from a simple carb tune to having the shop port and polish or install pod filters and exhaust, etc... if you just want a basic tuneup i'm sure it wouldn't be much to have them do a sync on your carbs and a simple tuneup. Best thing to do, bring your bike by, ask someone at the shop and have them give you an idea.
man if you could post the link for that...but 115mph..is that a lot for the 250..my friend said he has done 100mph on his stock with the baffles out..
xxc27, that's officially clocked. Most 250s can hit 105-120mph INDICATED. But it isn't actually that speed. We're talking an actual EX250 hitting 115mph clocked, may have been 117mph. You're better off with a bigger bike if you wanna go fast.
Your like looks stock to me, Is that right, Or have you done any mods to it ? BTW nice run. Thank's in advance, yl
ylism 1 week ago
@ylism Yes, the bike is stock in this video. It was taken out of winter storage and de-winterized before this run.
koihoshi 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@koihoshi Like a dummy. I usually read all the info, Before making a comment. Do you still have the bike, How many miles so far. My brother has a yellow 07 Ninja 250r as well, It's for sale, Only has 6-7K miles for $1800.00. Just may buy it from him. Think the 4 gen models look the best, But the 3 gen are faster. Thank's, yl
ylism 1 week ago
@ylism I do still have my bike, yes, it is for sale though. But I still ride it from time to time. It's been a good bike.
koihoshi 6 days ago
@koihoshi They do seem to be great bikes, For starting out , and for cheap fun..yl
ylism 4 days ago
Hey. How long does it take to break in the bike using the Dyno?
Anyway, which is better break in using the Dyno or Break in urself at road?
Nauttos 2 months ago
@Nauttos I'm sorry but I couldn't tell you the answer on that professionally, this dyno run was for fun. I've heard from many of my track buddies that a dyno break-in is "the best method" but I'm not sure how long it would take. I would think that a dyno method would be preferable since you can measure your results and see the results, whereas breaking it on the street is going to be based on experience of engines, break-in, etc, etc... I'd contact a performance shop for that.
koihoshi 2 months ago
How much does it cost to dyno a bike?
kickastang 7 months ago
@kickastang Depends on the shop. The video you see was just a fun run, no sensors hooked up for torque, just hp. We paid $20 for fun runs. Normally a dyno run could run you anywhere from $50-150 it seems, just really depends on the shop. Your best bet is to find a shop that has one and just call up and ask around for prices since it isn't really a set price.
koihoshi 7 months ago
whats the 0-60 for this year ninja? I heard the 250r was 3.8-4 seconds but i was wondering if a 250 or 250r of this year could do the same?
guitarplaya1234 1 year ago
@guitarplaya1234 The only way a 250 ninja would go 0-60 that fast is if you put a totally different engine in it. They are about 5.5 seconds 0-60 that would be if you shifted it perfect in perfect conditions on a perfectly running 250 and a lightweight rider. Realistically it's closer to 6. With weight reduction and mods you might get it a little better than that. But they are not meant for acceleration. It's about as quick as my escort ZX2.
koihoshi 1 year ago
@koihoshi a Escort ZX2 running 6 sec 0-60? I want to see
MangoSmoothie16 9 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16 Didn't say exactly, I said about as, as in "around that area", i think zx2s are closer to 7 or 8, still, slow. In other words "they claim 5.5, but it's still not a race car" :P
koihoshi 9 months ago
@koihoshi lolz. I dont know much about Fords except Mustangs so I really didnt know if they could do a 6 sec 0-60
MangoSmoothie16 9 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16 yeah no worries man. my main point of the video was originally as an inside joke for my friends but people have had a lot of questions. I think RomeoEskobar's comment sums it up well, you'll learn a lot on these bikes. Great beginner bikes. But don't expect a superfast bike, nor one that's gonna go outperform a bunch of stuff. Great learning platform, lots of fun, good mileage. Don't think my zx2 could do that, my wife drives that car now anyway lol I don't touch it.
koihoshi 9 months ago
@koihoshi Youre on the 944forum aren't you...
MangoSmoothie16 9 months ago
@MangoSmoothie16 Yep :) just not the same screen name....
koihoshi 9 months ago
@kdmalan i'm over 200 with no gear and can still cruise at 100mph, stock. they're really not bad little machines.
greasyjeezus 1 year ago
I know nothing about dyno's I just like watching them. So how do you test the bike if you don't shift gears?
ThaBR33D 1 year ago
hey would you be able to tell me if my bike is running rich? i have good decent power up untill 11k rpm in 3rd gear it wont go past 11k rpm but with no load it will redline... with a load on 3rd gear it wont go past 11k rpm and looses power... the plug chop method doesnt really tell me anything it shows chocolate brown every time...
StreetSurfinn 1 year ago
do 2005 kawasaki ninja 250s come w/ 5 speed gearbox? or are they all 6 speed?
hcdcxnights7 2 years ago
Why would you want 5 speed? 6 is just so much more fun!
Ardefoc 2 years ago 3
They're all 6 speed.
oldhatrs25 2 years ago
Good video thank you for posting:)
motonut666 2 years ago
I bought a 07 250 last year and ppl have been asking me what it peaks out at, mph wise. I'm not the kind of guy to get it up over 80, so anybody got any comments to help me out in this area?
A7XDarkKnight 2 years ago
With the wind at your back and a slight downhill, maybe 110mph. If I recall, the fastest speed record set with a 250 was someone who TURBOcharged a 250 and got it up to about 125ish. Even the new 250 ninjas max out about the same. On average, with ideal conditions, in a normal setting, even at the track, maybe 100-105ish would be max. Anyone who would say otherwise is likely full of hokey unless they have something to prove it.
koihoshi 2 years ago 4
@koihoshi where do you get a turbo kit??
Gl0wR4C3R 1 year ago
@koihoshi lol my 09 will hit 115 on a long slightly downhill stretch. However I only weigh about 140lbs. And thats with an almost empty tank. Although, considering how light that bike is I wouldn't recommended it.
starhobo14 9 months ago
@starhobo14 Mostly it was just an exaggeration. They aren't "really fast" bikes, so it's not worth arguing on the internet over who's 250 went 116 or 114. They're "in the ballpark" of about that speed. It's not bad, but it's no superbike. The lightweight doesn't make it dangerous. The small motoGP bikes (such as 125/250cc) are VERY similar in weight, actually.
koihoshi 9 months ago
@koihoshi Wow, I thought for sure they were lighter. After riding today though I can say that ANY lighter than it already is and it would just blow off the highway. I even had a passenger and the wind was playing with me to the point of heavy leaning. But I did get it up to 95 with my passenger. That surprised even me. But I think if it were any lighter, then you would be walking into danger.
starhobo14 9 months ago
@starhobo14 Yeah they don't like wind do they? lol.
koihoshi 9 months ago
And why does my 250 dyno video have almost 100k views and the R1 has hardly any? LOL
koihoshi 9 months ago
@koihoshi R1's are boring. The baby Ninja is much more entertaining! lol
starhobo14 9 months ago
on a flat interstate i got mine to 105. Didnt have much more
dmanw68 2 years ago
which do you think are the best upgrades to get on a ninja 250? just got one 2 months ago and want to through a few upgrades on it. if you can name whats best in order to get would be great
5010246 2 years ago
get started with tires. then go to pods then full exhaust then stiffer springs and or/emmulators and a front braided line. buying a tuning is implied.
carsnwomen91 2 years ago
What was the peak torque? at what rpm?
solomonclass 2 years ago
This dyno was a simple dyno run, no sensors hooked up and nothing to read torque unfortunately on this run. However, I have some tunes coming up for this little 250 and will get a full dyno and post that hopefully sometime this year with that data. If I recall, the 250 is around 15-17.
koihoshi 2 years ago
what upgrades have u gotten? when can we expect a dyno of it :)?
SKStylez 2 years ago
@SKStylez At this time the bike is up for the winter but i've got a few mods on the bike since this dyno vid. You can likely expect a dyno later in the winter or early next year. I've had some other projects i've been working on with my cars and ducati.
koihoshi 2 years ago
This seems like a great place to post this question. 95 Ninja 500 "pillowing" black smoke out of left exhaust. Left carburetor and output to engine FULL of gas. Bike is dripping gas off of engine while idling. Upon inspection air filter was crumbling like dried up birthday cake. Carb full of crumbly pieces of airfilter. Removed carb, cleaned carb body and components, inspected float height and reinstalled. Fixed the problem for about 50 miles and then same the same symptoms again.
Elow007islowenhaas 2 years ago
Noob Question Alert. What are pod filters and how do they increase power? Besides that, great video and in addition to the lower comments the 250 is an amazing beginner bike. I started out on one and still ride it as fast as it'll go today. Its a great all around bike and its also very dependable. My only beef with it is the glorified dirtbike suspension. I'm trying to mod the tree so i can lower it a little and maybe stiffen up the ride a little bit.
Luckystrat13 2 years ago
pod filters basically remove your air box and replace it with filters that sit on the outside that quite literally and cylindrical "pods", it's like having an exterior filter instread of an airbox. With a rejet it allows more airflow.
rather than lowering the bike you can do things like more beefed up springs and thicker fork oil so you don't mess up the geometry of the bike's handling.
koihoshi 2 years ago
Hey, was wondering if you knew where to get pod filters for these that fit?? cheers
starrybruz 2 years ago
Any local store that sells performance parts and K&N products for bikes should be able to look up the pod filters for you. There is the standard part # and then one with chrome, there's only 2 choices that i'm aware of.
koihoshi 2 years ago
Is the Ninja 500 also a good starter bike or is that too much power for a beginner?
chicks123 3 years ago
They are a bit heavier than the 250 and don't have much power, but overall they are definitely as suitable. They're both good bikes.
koihoshi 3 years ago
nahh its got just enough for for a beginner, plus it depends on how tall you are, and your strength as well, the 500 is a lil heavier than the 250. :)
PureEvil0690 2 years ago
any help would be appriciated. i normaly drive a car.(im 16) i have decided i want a motorcycle. i dont need anything fast. just something i can ride on warm days. what would be a good bike? i have no expirience with motorcycles
canublink 3 years ago
The 250 is a fabulous beginner bike.
koihoshi 3 years ago
would this bike be safe to like mod? speed wise perfromance? (Turbo? supercharger? bore? engine swap?) maybe if i put bigger wheels on it?
Tapil 3 years ago
Some people have put larger wheels on it to get a better choice of tire selection which is a good thing for track days. People have turbo'd the motor before, didn't last long. Bore and engine swap is a waste of your time (just buy a new bike for that). However, going with pod filters, a rejet kit and exhaust will be a nice addition and a little wakeup. Some racers have put larger carbs on them too... but a bigger bike is always the shortcut to more power. Good bike as is.
koihoshi 3 years ago
dose the bike still run good with 2 people on it im 6'1 and 190 pounds..thinkin about buyin one..iv been riden bikes sence i was 3 and decided to buy one of my own...im a harley man straight up but think these are cool haha
codytroy 3 years ago
It absolutely does. You will notice the reduction in acceleration, however, it does just fine. I'm around 130lbs, my ex was around 130lbs so together 260lbs and the bike didn't seem to care. Max load on these is well over 300lbs (i think around 350lbs). However, you can swap out the stock shock for a Ninja ZX6 A/B/C shock (hard to find but check ebay) to stiffen it up and carry more ;), that's what i put on it and it's done wonderfully.
koihoshi 3 years ago
is this mor or less than a kx250 four stroke?
miniimoto95 3 years ago
Please be more specific. More money, more weight, more power?
koihoshi 3 years ago
oh power
miniimoto95 3 years ago
Realistically i believe those are around 40hp dyno'd. But they're very different classes of bikes altogether.
koihoshi 3 years ago
did it make anymore than 12.5 hp
kalzx 3 years ago
Please read the video description.
koihoshi 3 years ago
i have heard that removing the intake snorkle will lean out the carb, i assume this would also give you more power. anyone know of any problems related to doing this and what kind of power increase it may result in?
ParisPsycho 3 years ago
Does the 08 250 have more power? My local Kawasaki dealer said it has 32.5bhp to me when I asked about buying one..
Tams15 3 years ago
That's 32.5hp to the crank is what they meant.
The 08 Ninja 250 has lower compression and makes a little less power, actually. But I have seen a dyno that was as high as 26.9hp on an 08 Ninja 250.
koihoshi 3 years ago
anyone know the top speed?
saleen01 3 years ago
about 105mph, indicated, is average.
koihoshi 3 years ago
What type of weight reductions can be done to lighten the bike? And also, what modifications do you think are worthwhile for a ninja 250?
jdeere30 3 years ago
If you can get ahold of a muzzy exhaust system for the 250 it'll get rid of all the weight that the stock pipes have. On top of that it requires you remove the centerstand, that as well gets rid of some weight. Removing the airbox and replacing it with pod filters.. fender reduction, removing the passenger peg and brackets, lighter battery if you can find one, removing toolbox, mudguard, there are many things you can do. They seem like a little, but add up.
koihoshi 3 years ago
Thanks for your quick reply. Do you think the expense of the muzzy exhuast is worth it? Which version would you suggest? How much weight does it save and what kind of power improvements can be expected when combined with some other engine modifications?
jdeere30 3 years ago
If you want to go all out then it's worth it. The muzzy exhaust gives you more clearance than the stock exhaust. And given a good rejet will gain you some power. The entire system is around 5 1/2lbs roughly, which is a good 10-15lbs in weight savings over the stock setup. As far as power, a rejet and exhaust on the 250 dyno'd is usually another 1-3hp total. But the weight savings added on top of it, your butt dyno will feel it :P
koihoshi 3 years ago
i have the same bike, do u think i should leave the exshaust alone or get a slip on exshaust for it, and is ur bike have dual exshaust.
GullyD50 3 years ago
It's highly recommended to make sure that if you add /anything/ to your bike that you tune it to compensate for the way it will make the bike run. For instance if you add pod filters you should rejet to compensate for the extra air coming in to fix the air/fuel mixture. Same with pipes, without tuning the carbs or rejetting them you may cause the bike to run too lean which making a bike run too lean can either overheat it or burn up valves ;)
koihoshi 3 years ago
how fast have u got ur bike going.
GullyD50 3 years ago
The ninja 250 is only capable of around 105-110 indicated. The only person who has actually ever gotten a TRUE 110+ (proven and clocked) was a guy who turbocharged his ninja 250 and got 115mph. It'll never be a /fast/ bike. You can improve your throttle response and a tad bit of acceleration but you'll get the most fun out of this bike in suspension and weight reduction.
koihoshi 3 years ago
what would happen if i took the baffels out of the exshaust instead of buying a slip on exshaust, i heard i would blow up.
GullyD50 3 years ago
Lol... no, it won't blow up, just makes it louder, but again, it may cause the bike to run a bit lean so you may have to richen up the mixture screws if you do that.
koihoshi 3 years ago
will it run different, like rpm wise, or the air compression not enough, and what does lean mean.
GullyD50 3 years ago
It won't run different, just sound different. The bike revs the same. Rich means there is more fuel to air being mixed when it enters the combustion chamber and ignites. Lean means there is LESS fuel to air (or more air to fuel, however you want to look at it) entering the combustion chamber when it gets ignited and is being mixed. The result is that the bike may cut out, not run efficiently or "bog down" if it's running too rich or lean and not make good power.
koihoshi 3 years ago
would u baffle it out or no
GullyD50 3 years ago
That's going to be personal preference. I choose to leave mine stock. It runs just fine as is :)
koihoshi 3 years ago
what would be better baffle it out or getting and slip on exshaust system on it.
GullyD50 3 years ago
If you are looking for a bit more power a slip on system AND a rejet and tune will get you the most power and bang for your buck. A local performance shop can help you tune that in.
koihoshi 3 years ago
I couldn't tell because I've never heard a nina 250 with a stock exhaust system at high RPM. Sounds very respectable actually to be honest, I might not end up with a muzzy afterall lol
I'm currently saving for my first street going bike, which will be a ninja 250. I have previous riding experience, years upon years, but it's all enduro experience, so I think the 250 will be a nice way into the sportbike world.
Love that color scheme man, one of my fave's.
shutokoupro 3 years ago
Stock exhaust system?
shutokoupro 3 years ago
Correct. Stock exhaust. This bike has no intake/rejet/exhaust mods.
koihoshi 3 years ago
hey i was just wondering my uncle has a yamaha r1 and i can reach the ground on my tippy toes and im 11 and i need a sports bike thats not a fake chinese pocketbike do you think this is the right bike for me? Right now i have a mildly tuned yamaha yz85 which is producing 24 hp on the dyno and i know all the clutch crap and i weigh 85 pounds and im 5 foot 1
yz85kid4112 3 years ago
maybe wit a year or two, but yeh it's a good step up once you get your licence
daredevildarrell 3 years ago
hey how much hp's will dyno'ing your 250 give you? what is dyno? thanks guys
kevinkarimi 4 years ago
Dyno'ing is putting your bike on a machine that measures how much power it makes. It doesn't "Make" power but lots of people will tune their bikes and make minor changes to it and dyno it again to see if it makes more power until they are satisfied with their tuning done to their bike. The result is knowing you made the most power on your bike that you could. A dyno is a tool more or less :)
koihoshi 3 years ago
thanks for the lesson. Im buying a 2008 ninja 250, Im thinking of adding a two brothers slip on. Can you recomend somethings to do to the bike to give it a little more hp, or to make it faster? thanks again in advance.
kevinkarimi 3 years ago
Pod filters, exhaust, rejet the carbs. If you aren't sure how to do that take it to a performance shop and have them do it.
koihoshi 3 years ago
how much do you think I should pay for all of that? again thank YOu!
kevinkarimi 3 years ago
You don't know this yet but the Ninja 250 is FAST! I has enough power to lift the front end and more then enough to kill you. Don't worry about getting more hp out of it until you have ridden awhile.
grbruner 3 years ago
dude dyno is like a 14 hp increase. after sticker mods your up to 67 hp
gatorswampu 3 years ago
ROFL!
koihoshi 3 years ago
Actually dyno'ing any bike during break-in for a full run through the rev range is a good, safe way to get extra hp (look up mototune break-in or break-in secrets on google)
But be sure to warm it up first completely and then change the oil afterwards
ZacharyB 3 years ago
Dude! :-)I told Mototune how to break in an engine 15 years ago lol! Funny, one guy gets all credit and the gist is to get cylinder pressure behind the rings,push them against the cylinder walls, BEFORE the walls form glaze at high temps (then it takes a long time to break in). Email Pat McGivern and ask him. He's done a great job without taking other credit. It wasn't even my idea,it was an old mechanic's idea - that's why I never took credit for it :-) Marc/Factory Pro Tuning
marc3075 3 years ago
well 16.1hp is low for a 250cc the new ninja 250r which is coming out on 2008 (they haven't anounced month yet as well as price) will have 32hp (which is the greatest legal limit for the lower lisence you can have in most countries)
Mitraeltheprophet 4 years ago
26.1 not 16.1. The claimed hp on the old 250s is 32hp as well, you forget that is to the crank, not to the ground.
koihoshi 4 years ago
very true
cdnguy2002 4 years ago 2
It was officially dyno'd about 2 weeks ago (there have been a few dyno graphs show up) the 2008 has less compression than the old 250s and makes just a hair less HP. Roughly 1.5 less. Not a major difference. So dyno'd was about 26hp. The older 250s make 27-28hp if well tuned stock. I don't think it's a big enough difference in power that it would be a buying decision factor.
koihoshi 4 years ago
would it be worth it to dyno my 08 ninja 250? I just put on a two brothers slip on exhaust on my bike today. Thanks!
kevinkarimi 3 years ago
If you are wanting to get the most for your bike then tuning it and dyno'ing it will tell you for sure how much power you are making. If you put exhaust on it i would rejet it, but i'd do the intake first, exhaust and then rejet and dyno ;)
koihoshi 3 years ago
26.1 HP thanks. im 250 rode 2 girls. 1 @ 120, the other 150. traffic 70 we were fine. hearing the engine scream, but I love that, they did too. 6 times each. at least 3 hours on one occasion. have done 103 for continuous 20 minute sessions, but it wouldnt go faster. 2006 Ninja ex250 stock. currently 6600 Miles 3 oilchange. into making her a streetfighter as I fell at least 3X. Good bike the perfect start.
bearo420 4 years ago
can you get a power commander for 250's?
mbxxx19 4 years ago
No, the 250 is a carburated motorcycle. Powercommanders are for fuel injected motorcycles.
koihoshi 4 years ago
You'll learn more on a bike like this than you will on a litre.
RomeoEskobar 4 years ago 20
Muzzy exhaust 2 to 1 Titanium/stainless/or Carbon, 300.00 to 600.00. K&N air filt or cones 30.00 to 80.00. Dyna Stage III jet kit 100.00 ?. Remember more air = more power. My 06 gets up to 110mph and i weigh 200+lbs. Also, a Dremel tool make for a real clean rear fender, it'll save you a couple bucks on a fender eliminator kit
jhimlin66 4 years ago
running to rich?
gsxrkidd 4 years ago 6
noobies need a cheap bike like this to mess up first then after you get used to it and not drop the bike anymore then you get a bigger bike unless you wanna get hurt & lose alot of money.
virgoffxi19802 4 years ago 3
It is indeed a very reliable and cheap bike for a first bike. Very forgiving too :)
koihoshi 4 years ago
YOur right there, youll drop your bike like it or not no matter what, even if you are the best you will still drop it at some point..Better to put a few scratches on a 250 kawi than a 750 gsxr..
Brainiac83 4 years ago 2
i totally agree with you.. And in most of these situations it's not your fault but the car driver's who can only see trucks or other car at the same size with his.. Let's face it the rest of the drivers do not respect motorbikes...
Mitraeltheprophet 4 years ago 2
the bike weighs about 320-350 build some leg muscle thats even cheaper... then again im well over 6ft but maybe thats just me...
cdnguy2002 4 years ago
heys guys, the video mentions the bike needed its carbs adjusttment? How can you tell?? Im new to riding and just got my ninja this summer
asaldana10 4 years ago
You won't know by hearing it. I'm the owner of the bike in the video, and I know it needs them tuned because it was running like crap and felt like it was making no HP. If you are unsure of the bike's performance or previous maintenance take it to a performance shop and have it tuned, that'll be your best bet.
koihoshi 4 years ago
cool. thanks! How much would this typically cost?
asaldana10 4 years ago
It's going to vary from shop to shop. You can go as all out as you want from a simple carb tune to having the shop port and polish or install pod filters and exhaust, etc... if you just want a basic tuneup i'm sure it wouldn't be much to have them do a sync on your carbs and a simple tuneup. Best thing to do, bring your bike by, ask someone at the shop and have them give you an idea.
koihoshi 4 years ago
Could you send me the link too. Thanks
knoxie89 4 years ago
thats so HOT....I have a friend who is building a turbo for his 05 250...is should be Nice!!!
tampaboy813 4 years ago
There is a guy on the ninja 250 riders club that did that. He got it up to 115mph on his turbo'd 250. May be worth looking up ;)
koihoshi 4 years ago
man if you could post the link for that...but 115mph..is that a lot for the 250..my friend said he has done 100mph on his stock with the baffles out..
tampaboy813 4 years ago
Youtube doesn't allow links so i will message you the link.
koihoshi 4 years ago
Can you please send me that link too. Thanks.
previadude 4 years ago
Wtf? That's HORRIBLE! My STOCK 2007 Ninja 250 hit's 115 easy.
XxC27 4 years ago
xxc27, that's officially clocked. Most 250s can hit 105-120mph INDICATED. But it isn't actually that speed. We're talking an actual EX250 hitting 115mph clocked, may have been 117mph. You're better off with a bigger bike if you wanna go fast.
koihoshi 4 years ago
What's your point? What it off, 3 mph maybe ? Who said anything about "wanting" to go fast? I'd have a bigger bike if I wanted one.
XxC27 4 years ago
It's off a lot more than 3mph ;)
koihoshi 4 years ago
by the looks of it he weighs about 170 or 180....thats what I think
MichaelMyersJR 4 years ago
how big are you?
guting 4 years ago
The guy on the dyno is not me... that's the guy who owns SDS, i have no clue what he weighs. I myself am 120lbs.
koihoshi 4 years ago
LOL! No worries :P Its all good.
koihoshi 4 years ago
In the video description it states the power. It was 26.1hp
koihoshi 4 years ago