I have this exactly the same turntable I purchased way back in early 80's still works great with a grado stylus cartridge that I paid over $300 bucks.but I like your test album what's the name of it,could I find it on cd format?thanks
@MrAlexprm The name of the song is "You only live twice". It's performed by Ronnie Aldrich and his twin pianos. The album is from the late 60s. It was recorded on Decca Phase 4. I believe the album was titled "Twin Pianos Today".
@9876543210Hammer The thing is... of what I know through the years... is that the suspension can be very faulty after 20 years and the cantilever of the MMC 5 vs MMC 2 is making the big difference in sound production, so it's not only the diamond shape. If you really want to do it right you should go to Soundsmith. They made the pick-ups for B&O at the time anyway as far as I know. I know a few guys that actualy bought the pick-ups for none B&O TT's.
Axel at schallplattennadeln is in fact total renovating the cart. That involves ofc a new replacement suspension and cantilever. My MMC2 distorted heavily because of hardened suspension, Axel replaced all ageing parts. Therefore, the cartridge sounds like new, with the original B&O sound to it. The Soundsmith cart uses a different type of rubber as suspension, a lot softer. Hence a brighter sound that is not synonym with typical B&O sound :)
Nice, you could have lifted up the plattter to reveal the three springs on which the turn table is suspended which allows for the "shock absortion" to the plate: allows record not to skip when you shake the table. The screws can be tightened for transport. B&O no longer makes a stylus for this model, but I was told that there is a guy in Chicago who does.
That's a very nice table Linears are often badmouthed for their motor mechanisms that were often considerd sloppy But in theory of course this is the ultimate tracker Do all of these use P mounts or can you fit them with standard mount cartridges Thanks It is a beauty!!! Love the "You OnlyLive Twice" music ... Great video!!
The record that's being played was from Decca's Phase 4 series, i've got a Ted Heath record by the same company and the quality is amazing. -Not that it matters!
"Tangential Platter Drive - a form of direct drive that uses a 'linear motor' technology to give smooth, silent and controllable power to the turntable."
Which is basically a slotless and brushless motor in a direct drive configuration.
That's basically the same as any other brushless direct drive turntable, so nothing unique there.
The only truly unique execution of brushless direct drive is the Sansui Silent Synchrotor system.
I would rather have the B & O 8000, which sounded fantastic to the Sansui.
Review of the Sansui: "The XR-Q7 sounded rather loud and forward, with a significant defocusing of central images especially in the midrange, but pitch and timing were however, rather good - £270 HiFi Choice 1983"
The Sansui is more solidly built, the idea behind the Silent Synchrotor is good (cancellation of torque to eliminate flexing of the plinth and counter-rotation to improve rotational stability), and you're allowed more options on your choice of pickups, including the use of excellent moving coil cartridges from Ortofon, Denon, Benz Micro, and so on.
The Sansui will likely outclass the B&O with a good MC cart that is properly calibrated.
"Mention the word Turntable and the usual response is Thorens, not Sansui, whatever its merits."
This is usually because of elitism. Thorens makes a fine turntable, but many people in this hobby have an unfair aversion to Japanese equipment.
In some cases, it's warranted such as the case with cheap plastic turntables.
In other cases, it's not when Japanese companies, including mass market manufacturers, actually make a serious effort only to get spite just because the brand isn't exclusive.
Sansui has a long history of making fine Amplifiers from its Vacuum Tube offerings to its first Solid State Amps. TEAC's recorders (Reel to Reel, and tape players) became recording industry staples with their high standards under their North American brand TASCAM.
Sansui's quality products peaked in the late 70's went into decline around 1984. After this time Sansui was referred to as Sansewer.
Audiophile enthusiasts continue in Japan push the envelope.
Japanese equipment held in high regard in the US were Denon, Nakamiji (Dragon Cassette Player), the NAD line of products (when made in Japan), Yamaha (receivers, when introduced to the US).
Sony, Technics, and others in the US marketed products on "specifications" and flashy displays rather than performance. Some Japanese firms purchased US Brand Names of respected audio company's to deflect some of the bias toward Japanese products. The subsequent products didn't help Japan's reputation.
NAD is Canadian; they may have some models manufactured for them under an OEM basis by Japanese manufacturers.
The proper spelling of "Nakamiji" is Nakamichi.
You've missed one: Onkyo.
As for Sony and Technics, they have made competent audio products.
For Technics, you usually had to buy their higher end offerings. For Sony, you usually buy their ES line although they have had high end offerings outside of the ES line that actually delivered decent performance on occasion.
It is normal for the start 70's to mid 80's Beograms to have slow setdown of stylus to protect the suspension of the cartrigde, and a quick lift to prevent mistracking og the record.
I thought you could program the tracks to be played, and also had the option of selecting a track automatically without having to cue it yourself If you want to get rid of the scratches on the plastic cover use kit scratch out, it almosts makes some look new again.
Does this turntable use the DIN connector to connect to the amp? I want to use this turntable with a beocentre 9000, 9300 or 9500. Thanks!
Alantgv 2 months ago
Turntable hard porn.
Powolny 3 months ago
I have this exactly the same turntable I purchased way back in early 80's still works great with a grado stylus cartridge that I paid over $300 bucks.but I like your test album what's the name of it,could I find it on cd format?thanks
hudent 3 months ago
have you had the problem of the needle not stopping where it should? I have the same turntable as yours and mine does that
piper4seeformerly 8 months ago
THANK YOU I'LL LOOK FOR IT :)
MrAlexprm 9 months ago
@teamresell HI! WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE FIRST SONG THAT YOU PLAY?
MrAlexprm 9 months ago
@MrAlexprm The name of the song is "You only live twice". It's performed by Ronnie Aldrich and his twin pianos. The album is from the late 60s. It was recorded on Decca Phase 4. I believe the album was titled "Twin Pianos Today".
darnoldie 9 months ago
Forward !!! ... rrrrrrruuuuuuuwwwww !!! now I know where they recorded the sound for R2D2 mooving in Star Wars ...
johannes914 1 year ago
Try the compagny Soundsmith. Of what I've heard they make one of the best pick-ups in the world... and yes, they fit on these machines. :D
mormel76 1 year ago
@mormel76
You can just get a retipping on an existing pickup and get like-new-results!
-Hammer, Owner of 5 B&O Turntables
9876543210Hammer 1 year ago
@9876543210Hammer The thing is... of what I know through the years... is that the suspension can be very faulty after 20 years and the cantilever of the MMC 5 vs MMC 2 is making the big difference in sound production, so it's not only the diamond shape. If you really want to do it right you should go to Soundsmith. They made the pick-ups for B&O at the time anyway as far as I know. I know a few guys that actualy bought the pick-ups for none B&O TT's.
mormel76 1 year ago
@mormel76
Axel at schallplattennadeln is in fact total renovating the cart. That involves ofc a new replacement suspension and cantilever. My MMC2 distorted heavily because of hardened suspension, Axel replaced all ageing parts. Therefore, the cartridge sounds like new, with the original B&O sound to it. The Soundsmith cart uses a different type of rubber as suspension, a lot softer. Hence a brighter sound that is not synonym with typical B&O sound :)
9876543210Hammer 1 year ago
@mormel76 Their is guy on Ebay that goes by audio-retro that reburbishes B & O to gift quality. Services what he sells. Great dude.
slmcK3 1 year ago
Nice, you could have lifted up the plattter to reveal the three springs on which the turn table is suspended which allows for the "shock absortion" to the plate: allows record not to skip when you shake the table. The screws can be tightened for transport. B&O no longer makes a stylus for this model, but I was told that there is a guy in Chicago who does.
Yep, I have one!
PClaytonHuggins 1 year ago
That's a very nice table Linears are often badmouthed for their motor mechanisms that were often considerd sloppy But in theory of course this is the ultimate tracker Do all of these use P mounts or can you fit them with standard mount cartridges Thanks It is a beauty!!! Love the "You OnlyLive Twice" music ... Great video!!
lpvcrcd 2 years ago
The record that's being played was from Decca's Phase 4 series, i've got a Ted Heath record by the same company and the quality is amazing. -Not that it matters!
hifiMAN1994 2 years ago
@hifiMAN1994 - Clearly I can't read, Sorry, it looks as if it's a London label. Still, it sounds great.
hifiMAN1994 2 years ago
"Tangential Platter Drive - a form of direct drive that uses a 'linear motor' technology to give smooth, silent and controllable power to the turntable."
Which is basically a slotless and brushless motor in a direct drive configuration.
That's basically the same as any other brushless direct drive turntable, so nothing unique there.
The only truly unique execution of brushless direct drive is the Sansui Silent Synchrotor system.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
I would rather have the B & O 8000, which sounded fantastic to the Sansui.
Review of the Sansui: "The XR-Q7 sounded rather loud and forward, with a significant defocusing of central images especially in the midrange, but pitch and timing were however, rather good - £270 HiFi Choice 1983"
Renshen1957 2 years ago
I look at it from an objective viewpoint.
The Sansui is more solidly built, the idea behind the Silent Synchrotor is good (cancellation of torque to eliminate flexing of the plinth and counter-rotation to improve rotational stability), and you're allowed more options on your choice of pickups, including the use of excellent moving coil cartridges from Ortofon, Denon, Benz Micro, and so on.
The Sansui will likely outclass the B&O with a good MC cart that is properly calibrated.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
On the other hand, I wouldn't sell short the MMC 1 short. The 8000 I heard had a well balance sound stage.
Mention the word Turntable and the usual response is Thorens, not Sansui, whatever its merits.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
"Mention the word Turntable and the usual response is Thorens, not Sansui, whatever its merits."
This is usually because of elitism. Thorens makes a fine turntable, but many people in this hobby have an unfair aversion to Japanese equipment.
In some cases, it's warranted such as the case with cheap plastic turntables.
In other cases, it's not when Japanese companies, including mass market manufacturers, actually make a serious effort only to get spite just because the brand isn't exclusive.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Sansui has a long history of making fine Amplifiers from its Vacuum Tube offerings to its first Solid State Amps. TEAC's recorders (Reel to Reel, and tape players) became recording industry staples with their high standards under their North American brand TASCAM.
Sansui's quality products peaked in the late 70's went into decline around 1984. After this time Sansui was referred to as Sansewer.
Audiophile enthusiasts continue in Japan push the envelope.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
I am well aware of Sansui's history as well as TEAC.
FYI, Tascam is a division of Teac that specializes in manufacturing professional audio equipment.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Then again, because of people who have low opinion of Japanese equipment, that leaves more for those who know better and at bargain prices.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Japanese equipment held in high regard in the US were Denon, Nakamiji (Dragon Cassette Player), the NAD line of products (when made in Japan), Yamaha (receivers, when introduced to the US).
Sony, Technics, and others in the US marketed products on "specifications" and flashy displays rather than performance. Some Japanese firms purchased US Brand Names of respected audio company's to deflect some of the bias toward Japanese products. The subsequent products didn't help Japan's reputation.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
NAD is Canadian; they may have some models manufactured for them under an OEM basis by Japanese manufacturers.
The proper spelling of "Nakamiji" is Nakamichi.
You've missed one: Onkyo.
As for Sony and Technics, they have made competent audio products.
For Technics, you usually had to buy their higher end offerings. For Sony, you usually buy their ES line although they have had high end offerings outside of the ES line that actually delivered decent performance on occasion.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
I think the dampener possibly needs looking at as when you paused the arm appeared to lift a little too quickly!
ollyk22 2 years ago
It is normal for the start 70's to mid 80's Beograms to have slow setdown of stylus to protect the suspension of the cartrigde, and a quick lift to prevent mistracking og the record.
9876543210Hammer 2 years ago
This is a very nice turntable; I'm trying to get my hands on one in good condition myself.
What record was playing in this demonstration?
I recognized the "You only live twice" theme, however I have the soundtrack to that movie, but that version of the song isn't on it.
catfishtango2 2 years ago
I think this record is "Two pianos Totay!" by Ronnie Aldrich, a phase four stereo record by Decca from circa 1967
9876543210Hammer 2 years ago
Thank you very much, found myself a copy already, I think I'm going to get it.
catfishtango2 2 years ago
I thought you could program the tracks to be played, and also had the option of selecting a track automatically without having to cue it yourself If you want to get rid of the scratches on the plastic cover use kit scratch out, it almosts makes some look new again.
maynardcat 2 years ago