@qttroassi I'm not quite sure, but someone can correct me on this. I think M16 are originally manufactured to shoot 5.56x45 NATO, and most people that have M16 that shoot 7.62x39mm usually have their gun modded to shoot such calibers. To answer your question, yes the M16 would actually be a lot more accurate. The smaller caliber the better accuracy.
@iray89 They made dozens of AR-15 rifles in every single caliber you can think of. Hell they made a .22 LR one, and one that could fire the 5.7x28mm round.
Way to much recoil in your 7.62x39 full-auto rifle!
You need to use a recoil hydraulic buffer to slow the rate of fire.
Hydraulic, Rate-Reducing Buffers Tame Recoil & Suppress Bolt Bounce For Maximum Reliability, Accuracy & Service Life. For rate of fire reduction, nothing works better – AR-RESTOR has been tested by the U.S. Army and proven to drop cyclic rates from 900 rounds per minute to 650 – 700! Buy the ENIDINE buffer.
That's some pretty big talk for some one who obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. from the age of 10 until I entered college I esily shot 10,000rds+ per year. 6,500 of that what 22lr ammo my dad bought me every christmas. And if 1-2" MOA is all you can get out of a decent AR15, you obviously aren't very disciplined in your shooting skills.
doods calm down stop tha violence! guns r cool to look at and stuff .dnt be nerds and explain their rounds and watnot. u guys r tha ones actin retared and immature. jus drop it
shit on the AK. one of the most INaccurate guns i've ever shot in my life. I don't know about you, but I like to hit what I'm aimming at in the first shot and not HAVE to depend on my POS rifle to keep functioning to make follow up attempts.
A real AK-47 can fire 400-500 yards while keeping pretty good accuracy. I've even seen children fire it, controlling a short burst. It really isn't a rifle that kicks as much as people think, and that's because they aren't finding the right one.
Your closest call to an AK-47 is a Romanian one, or you could just buy an AKM, which is basically the AK-47 made better in every manner. It's even more durable, more accurate, has less recoil, and costs less to produce.
you have a very different opinion of 'pretty good accuracy' than I do then. If I'm going for a rifle it's got to preform pretty well. The AK still can't even stack up to it's predicessor's (the SKS) accuracy by any stretch. I have both an AR-15 and 2 SKS's, and the AR will make sub-MOA 5 shot groups at 100yards. The SKS's will both make 1.5 MOA at 100 yards. The AK can't even get close to that.
It's all in how the AK is built. It is simply not made for great accuracy.
nope, most were chinese military brought in back in the 80's, and a couple Romanian. I prefered the Chinese.
All they require out of an AK is a 4 inch group at 100m in most militaries that field them. The AK is just a rough somewwhat crude made weapon. That being said, that is also what lends the AK to its excellent reliability.
1 MOA is a 1" group at 100yds. So yeah, 1.5 MOA is about average for a good SKS. With good ammo and a very experienced shooter I've seen them put 5 shots at 1-1.25 MOA at 100yds. The SKS is a much better choice than the AK. It's more reliable and much more accurate. Good choice!
Silly kids who think they know about guns...always make me laugh:) MetalMan, the SKS is nothing to brag about and indeed more often then not has equal or less accuracy then an AK. For the most part they are about equal. Your comments reflect your lack of knowledge son. I've shot more AR-15's then you even know exist, majority are 1-2 MOA, very few are sub MOA. I've shot my AK @600y with iron sites on target. Overall, AR's group tighter..no doubt. Most AK's are 3-3.5 MOA
@AR15xoxoxo You prove the saying 'ignorance is bliss'. That's some pretty big talk for some one who obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. from the age of 10 until I entered college I esily shot 10,000rds+ per year. 6,500 of that what 22lr ammo my dad bought me every christmas. And if 1-2" MOA is all you can get out of a decent AR15, you obviously aren't very disciplined in your shooting skills.
@metalman22417 Yes, ignorance is bliss as you try to state you are some shooting professional...because you shoot a 22??? I shoot several thousand rounds a month of 5.56, 7.62x39, .308, .45, an 22lr So let me educate you some more, MOA is unit of angular measurment. ANYONE can shoot 1moa or less...depending on DISTANCE. The Industry normal for ALL AR-15's tested is 1-2moa. That's a fact. Ammo, quality of firearm, distance, atmospheric conditions and number of shots fired all effect MOA kid.
@AR15xoxoxo It's funny that you think you're 'educating' me. I know good and well what MOA is. Just for giggles, without looking it up on the net before you return to youtube to make it seem like you know, what's ballistic coeffitent? I doubt it. All my AR-15's I've ever owned or shot could easily and consistantly make .75" MOA @ 100yds. The only time I've seen an AR-15 do any less that that was when it was in incapable hands.
@metalman22417 Look, you're a little kid with very little experience in firearms. Shooting a smaller caliber does NOT teach you better trigger discipline. TRIGGER discipline does. We're all giggling at your attempted comebacks though. A 22lr trigger has NO similarities to .308 AR-10 trigger. Therefor, useless. "a true knowlegable shooter would know that the round you shoot isn't always what's important" Um, wrong. The round you shoot is everything. It can make a gun sub moa, or 3+moa.
@AR15xoxoxo Ok, then if you were correct, then why are professional IPSC shooters practicing indoors with Airsoft replicas of what they use in competition?? Because it keeps them in practice. Not only in trigger disciplin, but in sight picture as well. It also teaches you to not flinch because the recoil is almost non exsistant. To believe that a certain round in inherantly accurate is completely ludicroius.
@AR15xoxoxo The components of that particular round in a particular gun I could see. Powder type, powder charge, bullet weight, bullet design, and in some cases primers can play in accuracy. If what you say about a certain round being accurate or not is true, then why can a CZ (civilian bolt action sport rifle) in 7.62x39mm achieve .5" MOA @ 100yds with surplus Russian military ammo and (according to you) the SKS and AK not achieve such accuracy??
@AR15xoxoxo And another thing, I'm not a 'little kid'. If you would bother to read or do a little research instead of talking out your ass you would've noticed I'm only 3 years your junior.
@metalman22417 Contact the firearm testers at Special Weapons, Guns and Weapons, Tactical Weapons, or email DPMS, Bushmaster, Stag Arms, CMMG, Colt, or whomever you prefer and ask them what the standard or average MOA is for a basic AR-15@100y. They'll tell you 1-2 MOA. Also I think it's funny you brag about knowing so much because you shot 10,000rounds a year. I average 3,000-5,000 rounds a month:) Most of it through lost distance shooting and tactical drills. So I have a bit of hands on time
@AR15xoxoxo Apparently you can't read either. I said 6,500 of those 10,000+rds were 22lr. Besides, a true knowlegable shooter would know that the round you shoot isn't always what's important, and by shooting allot of small calibers it teaches you better trigger disciplin. It doesn't matter how many rounds you fire a month if you have bad prctice. Which your statement of tactical drills and such explains why you are incapable of achieving better accuracy than the norm.
wow tipical Ak lover, there a sweet back up rifle but theres ONE problem with the AK that would prevent it from being my weapon of choise, no matter how good the gun is made the design is oawkward the barrel flexes slightly throwing the bullets around an AK couldnt hit a barn door from 500 yards sorry to say. the euro made Tar-12 or the M4A1 is definatly my weapons of choise simply because it can shoot STRIGHT! :)
why thank you lots of the girls say that to, im not trying to be an ass hole or anything, im just saying the AK cant shoot as stright as most full auto rifles, the AK has way more of a punch then any M4 or Tar, like u take a bullet from an ak and ur fucked, but 1 from an M4 ur fucked to but u have a better chance it doesnt hit as hard
ahah really? want me to prove that to you motherfucker are you in the army or are u just one of those wanna be's who thinks hes cool cause he can shoot his daddys guns id out shoot you buy 500 yards motherfucker better hope i dont find out who u are or BOOM!
wow ur just a misribal littel cocksucker arnt you mabie if we met and i beat your fucking face to a pulp ud belive i was in the army eh why are u so bitchy did ur boyfirend walk out on you? do the world a BIG favor and wash your mouth out with buckshot.. motherfucker
miserable? hahaha. that's really cute kid but honestly you're completely wrong. everywhere i go i have a bounce in my step while all you're doing is bitching at me on youtube and judging me on an argument i held almost a year ago. which i won, because i was right.
everything you do is probably just as flamboyant and wrong as this.
you're no help to the world at all, you never were and never will be. i help people every day and don't need to give our lowlife ass an example of any of it.
your goverment doesnt suck... your goverment is dealing with more problems then any goverment on this planet. think about it man, war. its horrible for the people who try to live there. trust me iv seen and herd.
If anyone in the U.S would like an upper for a AR 15 in 7.62x39 I build them and I have access to the real 7.62x39 30 round magazines made by C products .
on auto, you really want to try to get 3 rnds on target & the M16 does that very well. I noticed that some gas piston uppers & also the 7.62x39 conversion like this one have much more recoil than a standard M16. the problem with using AK ammo in an M16 is that the AK bolt system is designed for hard primers, & the ammo is a bit dirty, so it doesn't function well in a DI gas system, & with the small M16 firing pin. The concept is ok, but the AK should be fine for Iraq's army.
I can shed some light to solve some problems with the 7.62x39 AR or M-16 using Russian ammo .
The real problem with shooting Russian ammo from the AR or M-16 is the Russian ammo has primers ste in 25 thousands deeper than American ammo of the same 7.63x39.
To fix this problem you need to put the AR or M-16 bolt in a lathe and shave off 25 thousands of a inch from the back side of the bolt to let the firing pin strike deeper .
If you do this Russian ammo works ever time guarented !
I have a Robinsons Arms XCR in 7.62x39 as well as a standard AR in same caliber. NEITHER gun needs modification...because both are DESIGNED TO SHOOT the 7.62 ammo. Machining your bolt is absolutely most ridiculous thing i've heard. I've shot every RUSSIAN brand through my AMERICAN made rifle...ZERO problems. Wolf is ok, Golden/Silver/brown bear not bad but if you want exceptional low cost VERY accurate russian ammo(1MOA@100Y) get Golden Tiger FMJBT. Very good accurate round.
whoah awesome, and where the hell do you buy that?? :P Never seen one myself, or those magazines Ir probs could use modified AK style magazines with heavy modification, but, doesnt look like you did that
thats got much more muzzle rise than the 556. I thought the idea of a 7.62x39 M16 was a good idea...until I watched this. At 50m the only shot on target would be the 1st, and the other 2 would go way high...just like an AK.
guns are always like that. I think the 7.62x39 m16 is good to give for the iraqi army. they got lots of 7.62x39, but want shoot accurately like the american soldiers.
not neccisarily 1st America 1st ive heard rumors about companies making after market m-16s that fire 7.62mm rounds idk if it is true or not but i am in the Marines and I tell you what id like to get my hands on one because the 5.56 from my POV blows
this modification will involving a change of upper receiver for that cartridge but it will offer better performance than ak47 if the muzzle velocity is still same
What did you find this vid and pretend its yours. M-16 doesn't come in 7.62x39. The closest will be 7.62x51mm NATO aka .308 Remington.............noob
yes, there are. the Hydra rifle (an M16/M4 variant) has been chambered for the soviet 7.62x39mm round. it was made to accept "battlefield pick-up" AK-47 magazines. the only real major change to the basic design was that the designers had to modify the magazine well. he isn't stupid, but i think you may need to read up on your facts.
some M16/M4 rifles have had their magazine wells modified and been rechambered for the 7.62x39mm M43 AK-47 round. besides, that's too much recoil for a .223/5.56mm round.
No i am in rotc and i know all us weapons inside and out. the us has no sutch thing as a m16 that fires both 556 and 7.62. maybe ur confused with the fn scar? besises they are totally differs calibers you would need a complete diffrent rifle
sorry, i didnt mean it fired both. i said it was a modification to fire the soviet round. they had to make the mag well curved to accomodate the AK-type magazines (the soviet rounds have a different body taper). it was called the "Hydra", and wasn't a SCAR. by the way, i like the screenname. right on.
All the M16 requires is an upper receiver and barrel change. Usually see them with a suppressor. Trust me on this, i'm holding the magazine in my hand (Special Weapons for Military and Police. It's a 2001 article)
It's a 7.62x39, not a 7.62x51. Huge difference. The x39 is the Russian round developed in '42, and used in the SKS and AK rifles. The x51, or .308 Winchester, is a much longer round, and a NATO standard round. Definitely not Russian. Though one of my AKs does fire the NATO round, but I think it's more of a joke than anything.
Elcic, 1- The M16 isn't a machine gun. 2- I was always taught to avoid the chicken wing arm..keep elbows and arms in tight to have more control, but that's just me and what the Army taught me :\
That's pretty nifty. I know that some police agencies train their tactical officers to avoid chicken winging (when the elbow's out to the side), maybe that's what he was talking about, but you're just firing your M16 so who cares about chicken winging? :)
How much did that run you up by the way? Did you do any modifications to it yourself?
Hey shooter guy, lean foward, put your elbow down, take off your sun glasses because its gloomy outside and bend your knees a little.
dizralph4u 6 months ago
Bring your right elbow down a bit and relax, damn.
TheHorrorOfYig 8 months ago
@TheHorrorOfYig he didnt post this vid asking for advice...
dlinecg 7 months ago
@dlinecg then he shouldnt of posted a video on youtube
Hotdogx24x 6 months ago
What magazine was being used? Thanks.
ShadowsOfMisfortune 11 months ago
I've gotta say that's fuckin scarry ! Is the thing just as accurate as if it was firing 5.56 NATO ?
qttroassi 11 months ago
@qttroassi I'm not quite sure, but someone can correct me on this. I think M16 are originally manufactured to shoot 5.56x45 NATO, and most people that have M16 that shoot 7.62x39mm usually have their gun modded to shoot such calibers. To answer your question, yes the M16 would actually be a lot more accurate. The smaller caliber the better accuracy.
iray89 9 months ago
@iray89 They made dozens of AR-15 rifles in every single caliber you can think of. Hell they made a .22 LR one, and one that could fire the 5.7x28mm round.
GunsOfThePhoenix 8 months ago
@iray89 You got everything right but most people don't mod their guns to shoot a different caliber.
dizralph4u 6 months ago
nice cut offs faggot
dagothwit 1 year ago
@Elcic how did you get an m-16 that is 7.62 by 39?
KyIzSoHii 1 year ago
Way to much recoil in your 7.62x39 full-auto rifle!
You need to use a recoil hydraulic buffer to slow the rate of fire.
Hydraulic, Rate-Reducing Buffers Tame Recoil & Suppress Bolt Bounce For Maximum Reliability, Accuracy & Service Life. For rate of fire reduction, nothing works better – AR-RESTOR has been tested by the U.S. Army and proven to drop cyclic rates from 900 rounds per minute to 650 – 700! Buy the ENIDINE buffer.
TruthTeller878 1 year ago
dat was at burst
ItsShowtime2007 1 year ago
Really can tell the difference in recoil of an AR-15 or M-16 in 7.62x39mm over the 223 .
I have one lower receiver in full auto and two uppers chambered for 223 and 7.62x39mm that I keep in Eastern Europe .
The upper I have in 7.62x39mm is a blast for wild boar hunting when used on full Auto !
Gets them pigs every time !
Moldovawineimporter 1 year ago
That's some pretty big talk for some one who obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. from the age of 10 until I entered college I esily shot 10,000rds+ per year. 6,500 of that what 22lr ammo my dad bought me every christmas. And if 1-2" MOA is all you can get out of a decent AR15, you obviously aren't very disciplined in your shooting skills.
metalman22417 1 year ago
doods calm down stop tha violence! guns r cool to look at and stuff .dnt be nerds and explain their rounds and watnot. u guys r tha ones actin retared and immature. jus drop it
Y0uNG0ne619 2 years ago
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American fuckin auto rifles suck with fix jams and else shit, look at old ak47 which works in any conditions! Sucks american M16 viva AK47.
xgrinchs 2 years ago
shit on the AK. one of the most INaccurate guns i've ever shot in my life. I don't know about you, but I like to hit what I'm aimming at in the first shot and not HAVE to depend on my POS rifle to keep functioning to make follow up attempts.
metalman22417 2 years ago
you didn't shoot it
quackinacan 2 years ago
Didn't shoot what? because I've shot my fair share of AK's and AR's.
metalman22417 2 years ago
A real AK-47 can fire 400-500 yards while keeping pretty good accuracy. I've even seen children fire it, controlling a short burst. It really isn't a rifle that kicks as much as people think, and that's because they aren't finding the right one.
Your closest call to an AK-47 is a Romanian one, or you could just buy an AKM, which is basically the AK-47 made better in every manner. It's even more durable, more accurate, has less recoil, and costs less to produce.
quackinacan 2 years ago
you have a very different opinion of 'pretty good accuracy' than I do then. If I'm going for a rifle it's got to preform pretty well. The AK still can't even stack up to it's predicessor's (the SKS) accuracy by any stretch. I have both an AR-15 and 2 SKS's, and the AR will make sub-MOA 5 shot groups at 100yards. The SKS's will both make 1.5 MOA at 100 yards. The AK can't even get close to that.
It's all in how the AK is built. It is simply not made for great accuracy.
metalman22417 2 years ago 2
Sure it's not made for pinpoint accuracy, but I still believe you shot an American AK-47. The real ones are just great.
quackinacan 2 years ago
nope, most were chinese military brought in back in the 80's, and a couple Romanian. I prefered the Chinese.
All they require out of an AK is a 4 inch group at 100m in most militaries that field them. The AK is just a rough somewwhat crude made weapon. That being said, that is also what lends the AK to its excellent reliability.
metalman22417 2 years ago
Krebs you mean the KTR-08 solid AK (sexy AK)
christlubas 2 years ago
hi, i just bought an SKS i dont really know what u mean by MOA? is 1.5 MOA good for an SKS?
rassi13 2 years ago
1 MOA is a 1" group at 100yds. So yeah, 1.5 MOA is about average for a good SKS. With good ammo and a very experienced shooter I've seen them put 5 shots at 1-1.25 MOA at 100yds. The SKS is a much better choice than the AK. It's more reliable and much more accurate. Good choice!
metalman22417 2 years ago
i use to own a sks but traded it for an ak and i wish i hadnt
1991jarhead 2 years ago
tottaly agree
sgtskully123 2 years ago
@metalman22417
Silly kids who think they know about guns...always make me laugh:) MetalMan, the SKS is nothing to brag about and indeed more often then not has equal or less accuracy then an AK. For the most part they are about equal. Your comments reflect your lack of knowledge son. I've shot more AR-15's then you even know exist, majority are 1-2 MOA, very few are sub MOA. I've shot my AK @600y with iron sites on target. Overall, AR's group tighter..no doubt. Most AK's are 3-3.5 MOA
AR15xoxoxo 1 year ago
@AR15xoxoxo You prove the saying 'ignorance is bliss'. That's some pretty big talk for some one who obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. from the age of 10 until I entered college I esily shot 10,000rds+ per year. 6,500 of that what 22lr ammo my dad bought me every christmas. And if 1-2" MOA is all you can get out of a decent AR15, you obviously aren't very disciplined in your shooting skills.
metalman22417 1 year ago
@metalman22417 Yes, ignorance is bliss as you try to state you are some shooting professional...because you shoot a 22??? I shoot several thousand rounds a month of 5.56, 7.62x39, .308, .45, an 22lr So let me educate you some more, MOA is unit of angular measurment. ANYONE can shoot 1moa or less...depending on DISTANCE. The Industry normal for ALL AR-15's tested is 1-2moa. That's a fact. Ammo, quality of firearm, distance, atmospheric conditions and number of shots fired all effect MOA kid.
AR15xoxoxo 1 year ago
@AR15xoxoxo It's funny that you think you're 'educating' me. I know good and well what MOA is. Just for giggles, without looking it up on the net before you return to youtube to make it seem like you know, what's ballistic coeffitent? I doubt it. All my AR-15's I've ever owned or shot could easily and consistantly make .75" MOA @ 100yds. The only time I've seen an AR-15 do any less that that was when it was in incapable hands.
metalman22417 1 year ago
@metalman22417 Look, you're a little kid with very little experience in firearms. Shooting a smaller caliber does NOT teach you better trigger discipline. TRIGGER discipline does. We're all giggling at your attempted comebacks though. A 22lr trigger has NO similarities to .308 AR-10 trigger. Therefor, useless. "a true knowlegable shooter would know that the round you shoot isn't always what's important" Um, wrong. The round you shoot is everything. It can make a gun sub moa, or 3+moa.
AR15xoxoxo 1 year ago
@AR15xoxoxo Ok, then if you were correct, then why are professional IPSC shooters practicing indoors with Airsoft replicas of what they use in competition?? Because it keeps them in practice. Not only in trigger disciplin, but in sight picture as well. It also teaches you to not flinch because the recoil is almost non exsistant. To believe that a certain round in inherantly accurate is completely ludicroius.
metalman22417 1 year ago
@AR15xoxoxo The components of that particular round in a particular gun I could see. Powder type, powder charge, bullet weight, bullet design, and in some cases primers can play in accuracy. If what you say about a certain round being accurate or not is true, then why can a CZ (civilian bolt action sport rifle) in 7.62x39mm achieve .5" MOA @ 100yds with surplus Russian military ammo and (according to you) the SKS and AK not achieve such accuracy??
metalman22417 1 year ago
@AR15xoxoxo And another thing, I'm not a 'little kid'. If you would bother to read or do a little research instead of talking out your ass you would've noticed I'm only 3 years your junior.
metalman22417 1 year ago
@metalman22417 Contact the firearm testers at Special Weapons, Guns and Weapons, Tactical Weapons, or email DPMS, Bushmaster, Stag Arms, CMMG, Colt, or whomever you prefer and ask them what the standard or average MOA is for a basic AR-15@100y. They'll tell you 1-2 MOA. Also I think it's funny you brag about knowing so much because you shot 10,000rounds a year. I average 3,000-5,000 rounds a month:) Most of it through lost distance shooting and tactical drills. So I have a bit of hands on time
AR15xoxoxo 1 year ago
@AR15xoxoxo Apparently you can't read either. I said 6,500 of those 10,000+rds were 22lr. Besides, a true knowlegable shooter would know that the round you shoot isn't always what's important, and by shooting allot of small calibers it teaches you better trigger disciplin. It doesn't matter how many rounds you fire a month if you have bad prctice. Which your statement of tactical drills and such explains why you are incapable of achieving better accuracy than the norm.
metalman22417 1 year ago
400-500 yards with an AK 47? What a joke. Anyone who has ever fired one will tell you that past 200 yards you will be looking at 4 foot groups.
ferret6677 2 years ago
Not a real one from Romania or Russia. Those are the best firing ones. Get one from anywhere else and it's going to suck.
quackinacan 2 years ago
wow tipical Ak lover, there a sweet back up rifle but theres ONE problem with the AK that would prevent it from being my weapon of choise, no matter how good the gun is made the design is oawkward the barrel flexes slightly throwing the bullets around an AK couldnt hit a barn door from 500 yards sorry to say. the euro made Tar-12 or the M4A1 is definatly my weapons of choise simply because it can shoot STRIGHT! :)
sgtskully123 2 years ago
You're cute
quackinacan 2 years ago
why thank you lots of the girls say that to, im not trying to be an ass hole or anything, im just saying the AK cant shoot as stright as most full auto rifles, the AK has way more of a punch then any M4 or Tar, like u take a bullet from an ak and ur fucked, but 1 from an M4 ur fucked to but u have a better chance it doesnt hit as hard
sgtskully123 2 years ago
you're an idiot and know nothing of combat effectiveness
screw off, you retarded child.
quackinacan 2 years ago
ahah really? want me to prove that to you motherfucker are you in the army or are u just one of those wanna be's who thinks hes cool cause he can shoot his daddys guns id out shoot you buy 500 yards motherfucker better hope i dont find out who u are or BOOM!
sgtskully123 2 years ago
you're a fat retard who thinks he was in the army because he played a call of duty game
quackinacan 2 years ago
wow ur just a misribal littel cocksucker arnt you mabie if we met and i beat your fucking face to a pulp ud belive i was in the army eh why are u so bitchy did ur boyfirend walk out on you? do the world a BIG favor and wash your mouth out with buckshot.. motherfucker
sgtskully123 2 years ago
miserable? hahaha. that's really cute kid but honestly you're completely wrong. everywhere i go i have a bounce in my step while all you're doing is bitching at me on youtube and judging me on an argument i held almost a year ago. which i won, because i was right.
everything you do is probably just as flamboyant and wrong as this.
you're no help to the world at all, you never were and never will be. i help people every day and don't need to give our lowlife ass an example of any of it.
quackinacan 2 years ago
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siggibiggy 1 year ago
Fuckin pussy liberal government we have that only allows ultra rich people to have full autos. Our government sucks...
Iraqveteran8888 3 years ago
your goverment doesnt suck... your goverment is dealing with more problems then any goverment on this planet. think about it man, war. its horrible for the people who try to live there. trust me iv seen and herd.
sgtskully123 2 years ago
JOKES lol. sick gun.
Cheechoooo 3 years ago
redneck shootin' bullets in his backyard. lol.
Cheechoooo 3 years ago
lol first round on target second off third i think you just hit a bird
DANIAC262 3 years ago
If anyone in the U.S would like an upper for a AR 15 in 7.62x39 I build them and I have access to the real 7.62x39 30 round magazines made by C products .
Falesti2007 3 years ago
my fav gun
spy1357 3 years ago
marry the M-16 with the 7.92 x 33 mm Kurz.
chiburui6 3 years ago
on auto, you really want to try to get 3 rnds on target & the M16 does that very well. I noticed that some gas piston uppers & also the 7.62x39 conversion like this one have much more recoil than a standard M16. the problem with using AK ammo in an M16 is that the AK bolt system is designed for hard primers, & the ammo is a bit dirty, so it doesn't function well in a DI gas system, & with the small M16 firing pin. The concept is ok, but the AK should be fine for Iraq's army.
PassionStone 3 years ago
I can shed some light to solve some problems with the 7.62x39 AR or M-16 using Russian ammo .
The real problem with shooting Russian ammo from the AR or M-16 is the Russian ammo has primers ste in 25 thousands deeper than American ammo of the same 7.63x39.
To fix this problem you need to put the AR or M-16 bolt in a lathe and shave off 25 thousands of a inch from the back side of the bolt to let the firing pin strike deeper .
If you do this Russian ammo works ever time guarented !
Falesti2007 3 years ago
Not the best thing to reccomend... i think most people would just fuck up there 1000$ riffle
sgtskully123 2 years ago
@Falesti2007
I have a Robinsons Arms XCR in 7.62x39 as well as a standard AR in same caliber. NEITHER gun needs modification...because both are DESIGNED TO SHOOT the 7.62 ammo. Machining your bolt is absolutely most ridiculous thing i've heard. I've shot every RUSSIAN brand through my AMERICAN made rifle...ZERO problems. Wolf is ok, Golden/Silver/brown bear not bad but if you want exceptional low cost VERY accurate russian ammo(1MOA@100Y) get Golden Tiger FMJBT. Very good accurate round.
AR15xoxoxo 1 year ago
Panther Arms upper? They only have 10 rounds mags though...
DustyGamma 3 years ago
He cooked off 13 rounds though.
MyElement5 3 years ago
Exactly why I said "though" cause it's not a panther arms mag.
DustyGamma 3 years ago
If anyone needs magazines for AR 15 -M-16 for
7.62x39 there are now real mags made just for this round by C products and you can buy these mags through Olyimpic Arms web site .
These mags are 30 rounders and work like gressed lightning !
I bought 10 of them and they are real quality !
Falesti2007 3 years ago
there not converted, you can buy them to shoot a 7.62x39mm round
jfrase06 3 years ago
damn, never seen an m4 converted to take ak rounds.
Alexn1067 3 years ago
whoah awesome, and where the hell do you buy that?? :P Never seen one myself, or those magazines Ir probs could use modified AK style magazines with heavy modification, but, doesnt look like you did that
linktim 3 years ago
thats got much more muzzle rise than the 556. I thought the idea of a 7.62x39 M16 was a good idea...until I watched this. At 50m the only shot on target would be the 1st, and the other 2 would go way high...just like an AK.
PassionStone 4 years ago
guns are always like that. I think the 7.62x39 m16 is good to give for the iraqi army. they got lots of 7.62x39, but want shoot accurately like the american soldiers.
Expert51 3 years ago
not neccisarily 1st America 1st ive heard rumors about companies making after market m-16s that fire 7.62mm rounds idk if it is true or not but i am in the Marines and I tell you what id like to get my hands on one because the 5.56 from my POV blows
tellephone13 4 years ago
Watcha shootin at there buddy? Spiderman?
spheenx 4 years ago
you aint hittin shit
henrik2k 4 years ago
let see how accuracy and its power compared to ak47if that m16 was modified for 7.62x39
josephtan1818 4 years ago
this modification will involving a change of upper receiver for that cartridge but it will offer better performance than ak47 if the muzzle velocity is still same
josephtan1818 4 years ago
What did you find this vid and pretend its yours. M-16 doesn't come in 7.62x39. The closest will be 7.62x51mm NATO aka .308 Remington.............noob
bcneuf 4 years ago
THEIR IS NO SUCH THING AS A 7.62 X 39mm RUSSIAN CARTRIDGES FOR AN M-16 STUPID FUCK
nottobefuckwithx3 4 years ago
yes, there are. the Hydra rifle (an M16/M4 variant) has been chambered for the soviet 7.62x39mm round. it was made to accept "battlefield pick-up" AK-47 magazines. the only real major change to the basic design was that the designers had to modify the magazine well. he isn't stupid, but i think you may need to read up on your facts.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
i Know a lot about this weapon and i asure this is a .223 look at the magasine
1stamerica1st 4 years ago
i disagree. it looks more curved than even a 30 round M16/M4 mag, and appears to have a different bottom to the magazine.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
Were you find a high-cap mag for 7.62X39? Or is it custom.
dg14008 4 years ago
no suth thin this is a .223
1stamerica1st 4 years ago
there's no way that's a .223.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
it is that is a standaed m16. 5.56 or .223
not a 7.62
1stamerica1st 4 years ago
some M16/M4 rifles have had their magazine wells modified and been rechambered for the 7.62x39mm M43 AK-47 round. besides, that's too much recoil for a .223/5.56mm round.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
No i am in rotc and i know all us weapons inside and out. the us has no sutch thing as a m16 that fires both 556 and 7.62. maybe ur confused with the fn scar? besises they are totally differs calibers you would need a complete diffrent rifle
1stamerica1st 4 years ago
sorry, i didnt mean it fired both. i said it was a modification to fire the soviet round. they had to make the mag well curved to accomodate the AK-type magazines (the soviet rounds have a different body taper). it was called the "Hydra", and wasn't a SCAR. by the way, i like the screenname. right on.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
yeah i no what ur talki about. i just did read it right i geuss.
1stamerica1st 4 years ago
1stamerica1st ...WRONG!!
All the M16 requires is an upper receiver and barrel change. Usually see them with a suppressor. Trust me on this, i'm holding the magazine in my hand (Special Weapons for Military and Police. It's a 2001 article)
RT20Amerika 4 years ago
yes i no u can make one but thr us doesnt use one. ive fired a .308 at the range last year but u cant have it all in one gun.
1stamerica1st 4 years ago
It's a 7.62x39, not a 7.62x51. Huge difference. The x39 is the Russian round developed in '42, and used in the SKS and AK rifles. The x51, or .308 Winchester, is a much longer round, and a NATO standard round. Definitely not Russian. Though one of my AKs does fire the NATO round, but I think it's more of a joke than anything.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago
That's where i read it, too, except it was a later issue. I was trying to find the magazine, but couldn't.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
You can modify it to fire just about any round.
glaucomaulcer 5 years ago
The M16 is more accurate than the M4 , since it got a longer barrel.
How did that guy put 7.62x39mm rounds in his M16 while the M16 is supposed to use 5.56x45mm rounds?
StickyCheese2000 5 years ago
7.62 upper reciever and barrel kit
j0nizt3hpwnag3 5 years ago
i saw a 7.62 m16 at the gun store the other day actually. thiking about buying it
420smokeymcpot 4 years ago
longer barrel doesnt necessarily equal better accuracy.
pinhead61187 4 years ago
Lol.. i tested an M16a1 ( M16 ) , and.. i prefeer the M4a1 , it more slower and it has more range
Martone127 5 years ago
ohhooowww ı wantto buy one registered m16a2 for me
kumrallinux 5 years ago
Elcic, 1- The M16 isn't a machine gun. 2- I was always taught to avoid the chicken wing arm..keep elbows and arms in tight to have more control, but that's just me and what the Army taught me :\
XTerm59 5 years ago
HAHA i feel sorry for the cameraman getting hit with all that empty brass good shooting
snipad 5 years ago
Depends on where you live, some places you can own one registered as a Destructive Device. Nice shooting Elcic, check out my M-14 videos.
hydrOstem 5 years ago
I like my M16A2 better, because it has less recoil, and less kick. But is it illeagal to have an M203 flare launcher attached to it?
TamponOfSteel22 5 years ago
That's pretty nifty. I know that some police agencies train their tactical officers to avoid chicken winging (when the elbow's out to the side), maybe that's what he was talking about, but you're just firing your M16 so who cares about chicken winging? :)
How much did that run you up by the way? Did you do any modifications to it yourself?
berner 5 years ago
so its just the 7.62x39 round that has the heavy recoil, I just sold my AK because I didnt like the recoil, If I ever get another it will be in 223
davecore503 5 years ago
wow, I thought that my WASR10 had very little recoil. O well.
4ws0m0 5 years ago
keep ur elbow down...
palakaboy 6 years ago
I've been shooting machineguns for over 35 years and a damn 19 year old tells me to keep my elbow down...you fuckin dork
Elcic 6 years ago
@Elcic harsh but well said! lol!
gunmaster1119 1 year ago
@Elcic - I'm 30 and I'm telling you to lean forward into your rifle to help control recoil.
Also, just because you do something for a long time does not mean you are doing it right.
But what do I know? lol
KurNorock 1 year ago
@Elcic For shooting machineguns for over 35 years you sure don't look like you have, i see horrible gun control and yes your elbo is way to high.
jeremydufur 1 year ago 2
lol palaka boy nows nuthin
lukewilliams010 1 year ago
lol again
ryan023 6 years ago
he handle it better than the other guy hahaa
krazzielaosboi 6 years ago