Well I lasted 43 minutes, at which point, sure enough, BBC and this horrid narrator lost the thread. Lost thread, and veered off, toward straw-men wherever they might be found. And notice: no interest in running down Mr Bakers leads; just in the ratings to be had by borrowing all his questions. Despicable. CDN journalists and broadcaster I worked with, like me, worshipped the Beeb. Never again, and all due to 9/11. Which lame fable this same C-Files crew propped up, after about 43 minutes.
I only watched the first 3 seconds till I heard that woman's voice, then closed the vid. I can guess what it is: another BBC/government anti-conspiracy documentary that defends the government and ridicules anyone that opposes them?
I stopped funding the BBC through TV licence and DVDs long ago, and now I really don't need to watch them on YouTube either...
At least there's some actual hate towards this one corrupt treasonous leader. Seems hardly any americans by comparison are calling for the trial of war criminal Bush
If outside forces were not involved Blair would have been in jail long ago! This guy is protected by those much more powerful than he ever was! Look at the people in the US whom he couldn't wait to get in bed with? We're talking about lying to go to war; anyone with any brains knows Blair committed TREASON - yet he's still free; and even uninitiated folk suspect that the death of Dr Kelly was no suicide. Blair wanted war!
His excuse was Saddam having WMD's. Kelly simply was way too important a person to be going around saying Blair was lying through his back teeth because everyone KNEW HE WAS BRITAIN'S CHIEF WEAPONS INSPECTOR TO IRAQ. With Kelly alive how could Blair have gone to war in Iraq? Something had to give! All this clearly indicates our politicians are bent; the justice system is bent; the mass media is bent; we have no democracy!
There was clearly no motive for Iraqi intelligence to bump him off because he was their best chance of avoiding a war. However, to argue that there was no benefit for MI5/6 or CIA/Mossad is non sequitur. In the public's eye there were huge doubts as to the 'Intelligence' against Sadam and David Kelly was confirming many people's worst doubts that it was all based on lies. He would have remained a focus for the media as a voice of dissent as the war progressed.
Also assassinating him served as a warning to others in the MoD, at this critical time, to keep their mouths shut.
The vilification of Andrew Gilligan of the BBC for daring to report Kelly's leaks also served as a warning to journalists and the media to report only what was spoon-fed to them and not to engage in critical analysis on issues of national security (or war).
David Kelly's death was a watershed, albeit not an immediate one, in news journalism - particularly for the BBC but also for others who saw the unjust treatment that was metered out to it. In the years since the media has effectively been gagged on these big issues and will only critique less imprtant news such as MP's expenses or the phone hacking scandal whilst diverting public attention from reforming the banking industry or the invasion of Libya for example.
I think someone of David Kelly's stature would of left a suicide note of some sort. He would not have left his family in limbo. Would he not have given his reasons for taking his own life, letting the world know who drove him to suicide. By not leaving a note he is letting off those who hounded him to suicide, which i don't he would of done. No suicide note to me means something else happend to David Kelly that day. Not suicide.
Why was the body moved? Why was there no fingerprints on anything despite him not wearing any gloves? Why was the police file on him opened an hour before his body was even discovered? Why were MI5 round his house that very morning? Who was the third man with the police and why has this never been examined?
Why, more recently brought to light (kept hidden for what reason), was a police helicopter scrambled to the scene of his death within 30 mins of his body being discovered? Then left again?
What in the name of fuck was DC COE doing with the body for 30 minutes ? on his own (extremely unusual).........give me a break ! when is the new inquest going to be held ?? ( Operation MASON )
@SuperKissmyblackass Please support my epetion calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death and please distribute.
what if David Kelly was not a good gay...... what if he knew about everything and was covering it up ....... what if they decided to "kill" or remove him to stop questioning ...... because not only his head could be "cut of" ..... why his wife is so sure that he committed suicide, why she did not want to realise the case documentary
at 43.49 there is a whopping great radio mast visible in the garden. WTF??? Lots of black cars too. I count 6. Not a fashionable colour except in 1950s Ealing police thrillers.
@majornichols Please support my epetion calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death and please distribute.
JUDGES have NEVER been part of British Democracy. JUDGES are appointed by the Queen and the Courts operate under the Royal Prerogative. JUDGES are the lying thieving scum who obstruct the truth about who really rules Britain. In the French Revolution the Judges were the first category of State servant to be lined up in front of the Guillitione.
Two days before Kelly was killed, I had this dream which disturbed me until this man was killed. In my dream I saw two middle aged men killing another man. So when I had the news i was not surprised. I always realise my dreams, but for this, I have not seen Blair being brought to justice.
I have personally sighted the Kelly case, in order to highlight the illogicality surrounding the Gary McKinnon case. Kelly posed a genuine threat, whereas McKinnon did not. My assertion is that McKinnon presented no real threat to national security, because he had been fed with disinformation that had been intentionally made available for hackers. That is why Gary McKinnon is still alive. McKinnon’s legal fight makes that disinformation seem credible.
Not a Bad Program...But They Did Fail to Mention if He Had Left a Suicide Note....
Something Else Not Covered Was How Long He Had Been Taking The Painkiller.... That's a Huge Factor in How Much of a Tolerance Your Body Has Developed For The Drug.......Dr. David Kelly, Pat Tillman, Danny Casolero....U Never Know What Ur Going to Find, When U Turn Over The Rocks That Lie Around The So Called "Free" Democratic Governments.......
David Kelly ,Britains top scientist on biological weapons . The man whos " privey " to what Britain has " hidden " ( the banned weapons Britain has signed treaties not to stockpile ) . Its common knowledge within the " secret weapons " industry that Kelly was silenced . For had he told all , the goverment of Blair would have collapsed as well as many previous goverments having questions to answer on its lies on stocks of banned Bio weapons. . Kellys assasins still alive ? or just too dangerous ?
An inteligent rational scientist killed himself because he "got chastized and felt depressed", Lies, Lies, Lies...They are not even trying any more. The guy was 'killed' because he knew thing and two about Iraqi "dorsier", which is empty BTW, and the dirty games dubya and pals were playing. It is ALWAYS about conspiracy, DAMN RIGHT! A moron who think international games is candid, they all conspire.
This film is typical of this series. It presents unsettling facts first, only to give more weight to debunking the theories last. This isn't objective. Nor does it try to be. This series of films is all about debunking "conspiracy theories". This film sets out to debunk the conspiracy.
@guv859 For many decades I stupidly believed that the BBC were independent objective reporters because they were funded by Licence Fee. Now I realise the obvious truth that both commercial and non-commercial organizations are equally easy to infiltrate with planted biased executives. The BBC has always been a Global political tool which supports vested interests which are far deeper than political parties and the government of the day.
@dreamdiction Interesting points, and I'm in agreement with many of them. I wouldn't want a wishy washy series which was trying so hard to be balanced that it was bland and uninteresting, but I would like to see one that didn't set out to use selective "evidence" to refute valid questions. It's biased, partial television and does a disservice, as you say, to not just viewers' intelligence, but to Licence Fee payers who don't believe the official line on everything as a matter of course.
@dreamdiction Yep, the penny finally drop for me on this as regards the BBC when they did their 9/11 10th anniversary docs - they were so pro-official story and biased I couldn't believe it. What happened to investigative journalism?!
@brunotheger Please support my epetion if you are a UK resident calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death and please distribute.
Well I lasted 43 minutes, at which point, sure enough, BBC and this horrid narrator lost the thread. Lost thread, and veered off, toward straw-men wherever they might be found. And notice: no interest in running down Mr Bakers leads; just in the ratings to be had by borrowing all his questions. Despicable. CDN journalists and broadcaster I worked with, like me, worshipped the Beeb. Never again, and all due to 9/11. Which lame fable this same C-Files crew propped up, after about 43 minutes.
newsmanbluesman 2 weeks ago
I only watched the first 3 seconds till I heard that woman's voice, then closed the vid. I can guess what it is: another BBC/government anti-conspiracy documentary that defends the government and ridicules anyone that opposes them?
I stopped funding the BBC through TV licence and DVDs long ago, and now I really don't need to watch them on YouTube either...
jhodgski 2 weeks ago
Perhaps that's why they are so scared of Muslims, and mindsets like China, Iran, and Korea, because they know that those people will take THEM out.
mrcjrowe 2 weeks ago
RIP do not question the socialists or the anti revolutionary guard will take you out!!
ukipwarrior 2 weeks ago
RIP, he was excellent in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory :(
0MrAnon2 3 weeks ago
Could become a target for your comments on here?
wildwest480 3 weeks ago
Real eye opening, they kill all f****** human being who tries to change our world for the good. Fok them
- Camasino team
Yaooobaby 4 weeks ago
At least there's some actual hate towards this one corrupt treasonous leader. Seems hardly any americans by comparison are calling for the trial of war criminal Bush
MrStig691 1 month ago
@MrStig691 Yeah because the majority are about as intelligent as a rock.
Weston29406 1 month ago
If outside forces were not involved Blair would have been in jail long ago! This guy is protected by those much more powerful than he ever was! Look at the people in the US whom he couldn't wait to get in bed with? We're talking about lying to go to war; anyone with any brains knows Blair committed TREASON - yet he's still free; and even uninitiated folk suspect that the death of Dr Kelly was no suicide. Blair wanted war!
TheGMMuk 1 month ago
@TheGMMuk so damn true buddy!
MegaKrazzy4 1 month ago
@MegaKrazzy4 Thanks MegaK! I still can't believe Blair has got away with this!
TheGMMuk 1 month ago
His excuse was Saddam having WMD's. Kelly simply was way too important a person to be going around saying Blair was lying through his back teeth because everyone KNEW HE WAS BRITAIN'S CHIEF WEAPONS INSPECTOR TO IRAQ. With Kelly alive how could Blair have gone to war in Iraq? Something had to give! All this clearly indicates our politicians are bent; the justice system is bent; the mass media is bent; we have no democracy!
TheGMMuk 1 month ago 3
Harriet Harman sounds less than convinced by her own words!
chickwah2 1 month ago
that man is full of shit
MrSharon5 1 month ago
THEY R ON THE SAME LINE IS HITLER, they needs to be arrested
MrSharon5 1 month ago
he knew what we know now ,,, THERE WERE NO WPM,
MrSharon5 1 month ago
Jon Morrison hit the nail on the head, there was no motive for an assassination.
Froodi 1 month ago
@Froodi
There was clearly no motive for Iraqi intelligence to bump him off because he was their best chance of avoiding a war. However, to argue that there was no benefit for MI5/6 or CIA/Mossad is non sequitur. In the public's eye there were huge doubts as to the 'Intelligence' against Sadam and David Kelly was confirming many people's worst doubts that it was all based on lies. He would have remained a focus for the media as a voice of dissent as the war progressed.
mrmoospoos 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@mrmoospoos
Also assassinating him served as a warning to others in the MoD, at this critical time, to keep their mouths shut.
The vilification of Andrew Gilligan of the BBC for daring to report Kelly's leaks also served as a warning to journalists and the media to report only what was spoon-fed to them and not to engage in critical analysis on issues of national security (or war).
mrmoospoos 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@mrmoospoos
David Kelly's death was a watershed, albeit not an immediate one, in news journalism - particularly for the BBC but also for others who saw the unjust treatment that was metered out to it. In the years since the media has effectively been gagged on these big issues and will only critique less imprtant news such as MP's expenses or the phone hacking scandal whilst diverting public attention from reforming the banking industry or the invasion of Libya for example.
mrmoospoos 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Please support my epetion calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death.
johnplatinumgoss 2 months ago
I think someone of David Kelly's stature would of left a suicide note of some sort. He would not have left his family in limbo. Would he not have given his reasons for taking his own life, letting the world know who drove him to suicide. By not leaving a note he is letting off those who hounded him to suicide, which i don't he would of done. No suicide note to me means something else happend to David Kelly that day. Not suicide.
The24547377 2 months ago
Very interesting documentary. But that Michael Shrimpton is clearly a fantasist.
doyoureallythinkso 3 months ago
Why was the body moved? Why was there no fingerprints on anything despite him not wearing any gloves? Why was the police file on him opened an hour before his body was even discovered? Why were MI5 round his house that very morning? Who was the third man with the police and why has this never been examined?
Why, more recently brought to light (kept hidden for what reason), was a police helicopter scrambled to the scene of his death within 30 mins of his body being discovered? Then left again?
huxleypig69 3 months ago
What in the name of fuck was DC COE doing with the body for 30 minutes ? on his own (extremely unusual).........give me a break ! when is the new inquest going to be held ?? ( Operation MASON )
ralph12330 3 months ago
BBC flip- flop.
Feed the viewer huge nuggets of outrageous highly contentious 'facts' up front, then before the time is up shoot them down in flames.
Voila back to the official story- the square peg really does fit in the square hole.
It's ok to forget this now, we proved it to you, please go back to sleep it was just a bad dream.
Errrr, nope sorry 'The Man' I have my OWN MIND STILL.
Ugly nasty people at work in their business of control.
breakit46 3 months ago
This is a typical BBC reverse psychology programme to poke fun at the 'conspiracy theorists' to conclude that the government line was true.
caxtonman 3 months ago
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@caxtonman Please support my epetion calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death.
johnplatinumgoss 2 months ago
Losing your home worse than losing your life, I don't think so.
caxtonman 3 months ago
turned it off soon as I saw it was a BBC production.
Them dirty Zionists
SuperKissmyblackass 4 months ago
@SuperKissmyblackass Please support my epetion calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death and please distribute.
johnplatinumgoss 2 months ago
Thames called the case "Mason"...
Renathra 4 months ago
what if David Kelly was not a good gay...... what if he knew about everything and was covering it up ....... what if they decided to "kill" or remove him to stop questioning ...... because not only his head could be "cut of" ..... why his wife is so sure that he committed suicide, why she did not want to realise the case documentary
berletka 4 months ago
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where can i find the whole questioning of Kelly????
berletka 4 months ago
at 43.49 there is a whopping great radio mast visible in the garden. WTF??? Lots of black cars too. I count 6. Not a fashionable colour except in 1950s Ealing police thrillers.
majornichols 4 months ago
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johnplatinumgoss 2 months ago
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JUDGES have NEVER been part of British Democracy. JUDGES are appointed by the Queen and the Courts operate under the Royal Prerogative. JUDGES are the lying thieving scum who obstruct the truth about who really rules Britain. In the French Revolution the Judges were the first category of State servant to be lined up in front of the Guillitione.
dreamdiction 4 months ago
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Two days before Kelly was killed, I had this dream which disturbed me until this man was killed. In my dream I saw two middle aged men killing another man. So when I had the news i was not surprised. I always realise my dreams, but for this, I have not seen Blair being brought to justice.
markmaxs777 4 months ago
Lol at harriet harman, stupid bitch.
gazz12345a 5 months ago 4
I have personally sighted the Kelly case, in order to highlight the illogicality surrounding the Gary McKinnon case. Kelly posed a genuine threat, whereas McKinnon did not. My assertion is that McKinnon presented no real threat to national security, because he had been fed with disinformation that had been intentionally made available for hackers. That is why Gary McKinnon is still alive. McKinnon’s legal fight makes that disinformation seem credible.
clemstevenson 5 months ago
Not a Bad Program...But They Did Fail to Mention if He Had Left a Suicide Note....
Something Else Not Covered Was How Long He Had Been Taking The Painkiller.... That's a Huge Factor in How Much of a Tolerance Your Body Has Developed For The Drug.......Dr. David Kelly, Pat Tillman, Danny Casolero....U Never Know What Ur Going to Find, When U Turn Over The Rocks That Lie Around The So Called "Free" Democratic Governments.......
CelticBadBoyPoet7 5 months ago
David Kelly ,Britains top scientist on biological weapons . The man whos " privey " to what Britain has " hidden " ( the banned weapons Britain has signed treaties not to stockpile ) . Its common knowledge within the " secret weapons " industry that Kelly was silenced . For had he told all , the goverment of Blair would have collapsed as well as many previous goverments having questions to answer on its lies on stocks of banned Bio weapons. . Kellys assasins still alive ? or just too dangerous ?
FranekM 5 months ago
An inteligent rational scientist killed himself because he "got chastized and felt depressed", Lies, Lies, Lies...They are not even trying any more. The guy was 'killed' because he knew thing and two about Iraqi "dorsier", which is empty BTW, and the dirty games dubya and pals were playing. It is ALWAYS about conspiracy, DAMN RIGHT! A moron who think international games is candid, they all conspire.
Pissoffyowpunk 6 months ago
Iraqi hit team??? HAHAHAHAHAH 100% Zionist hit team!!!
estrudis 6 months ago
This film is typical of this series. It presents unsettling facts first, only to give more weight to debunking the theories last. This isn't objective. Nor does it try to be. This series of films is all about debunking "conspiracy theories". This film sets out to debunk the conspiracy.
guv859 8 months ago
@guv859 For many decades I stupidly believed that the BBC were independent objective reporters because they were funded by Licence Fee. Now I realise the obvious truth that both commercial and non-commercial organizations are equally easy to infiltrate with planted biased executives. The BBC has always been a Global political tool which supports vested interests which are far deeper than political parties and the government of the day.
dreamdiction 4 months ago
@dreamdiction Interesting points, and I'm in agreement with many of them. I wouldn't want a wishy washy series which was trying so hard to be balanced that it was bland and uninteresting, but I would like to see one that didn't set out to use selective "evidence" to refute valid questions. It's biased, partial television and does a disservice, as you say, to not just viewers' intelligence, but to Licence Fee payers who don't believe the official line on everything as a matter of course.
guv859 4 months ago
@dreamdiction Yep, the penny finally drop for me on this as regards the BBC when they did their 9/11 10th anniversary docs - they were so pro-official story and biased I couldn't believe it. What happened to investigative journalism?!
HardcoreJungFunk 3 months ago
Rest in peace Dr David Kelly- trust no government. This is a eye opening documentary.
A man, murdered for speaking the truth.
brunotheger 8 months ago 13
@brunotheger Please support my epetion if you are a UK resident calling for the resignation of Dominic Grieve for not allowing an inquest into Dr Kelly's death and please distribute.
johnplatinumgoss 2 months ago