I said it before and I'll say it again...It's just an inspiration. Every filmmaker has it. The ones who "copy" are the ones who have no sense in great storytelling at all. That's why you see all of these remakes and reboots. Alot of filmmakers are missing out on whats important...Their influences.
Though I'm not entirely convinced it apply in this situation, "Good Artists Borrow, Great Artists Steal". Even if Nolan had Paprika in mind when creating Inception, they're both brilliant films on their own and they're both successful - so who cares?
even though I'm not a fan of his films i stand by this quote from Jim Jarmusch
"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows.
Talked to Chris tonite, he told me he hadn't seen it, but that he might now, that I noted that TDK was one of the last movies Kon brought up before he died.
Hollywood loves anime doesn't it! i mean James cameron, Nolan, Guillermo Del Toro, Michael Bay, The Wachowskis, Zack Snyder, Speilberg, Fincher, Tarantino and more are huge fans of anime and use them for inspiration. For example Avatar was like Mononoke/Nausicaa, The Matrix was like Ghost in The Shell/Akira, Kill Bill was like Ninja Scroll/Golgo 13, Inception like Paprika, The Island like Ghost in The Shell and so much more.
If you think Avatar is like Ferngully then do you think The Matrix is like Ghost in The Shell? you don't hear anyone saying Ghost in The Shell when they see The Matrix or is GITS not a very common movie among the masses when they think The Matrix is an original movie?
@Johnlindsey289 Yes, I do think the matrix is like ghost in the shell. I dont even know what you're trying to ask in the last question though... it's like you're just rambling
Aprillis: " Dramatic character study of [...] the various mental illnesses and emotional problems of the principal cast, [...] deconstruction of the Mecha genre and a commentary on post-postwar Japanese society."
I said it ripped off more than just Gundam. For example, the way the mecha loses control as soon as Shinji gets knocked out and kills his friend is straight from Guyver.
@fromstart2finish Hallway scenes are quite common in dreams, it's classic anxiety attack in a similar vein as walls closing in and appearing naked in front of an audience. Both movies played along with this situation in different ways. And the Paprika-like character in Inception is probably a homage to Paprika itself, since Nolan acknowledged he was inspired by the anime to a certain degree.
But other than that, both directors took one theme (dream-sharing) and spun their own versions of it.
@fromstart2finish God, the Japanese are so superior to those dumb, idea-stealing Hollywood people! It's not like the father of anime, Osamu Tezuka was inspired by Bambi, Betty Boop and Mickey Mouse when he was developing his style that will be the foundation of modern anime or anything, right??
Get over it will you. Comparing Paprika with Inception is like comparing Gundam with Macross or Eva -- gasp there's mecha in all the shows; they are ripping off each other!!!1 Geez.
@Aprillis29 Well, they certainly paid Tezuka back by ripping off Jungle Emperor Leo and an AB episode for The Lion King and Fantastic Voyage. Also, Eva is inspired by Gundam, and ripped off a helluva lot more than that.
@Zerudah Eva: (tvtropes) Dramatic character study of [...] the various mental illnesses and emotional problems of the principal cast, [...] deconstruction of the Mecha genre and a commentary on post-postwar Japanese society.
what pisses me off is that america is going crazy for inception and is calling it "original" and a "masterpiece" and it is just a ripoff of a real work of art. And most americans have never even heard of paprika! *rage*
@fromstart2finish Paprika =/= Inception. Actually both movies are excellent but there are quite a few differences that set eachother apart. Inception is about a team that goes into peoples dreams to plant ideas where as Paprika envisions ability as more of a therapy tool. The dreamscapes themselves are quite different. Paprika has landscapes that shift and meld into eachother quickly whereas Inception has more concrete less moving layers of dream landscapes
Yeah, those differences are obvious, but both films share a hallway scene where something weird happens, and have a female protagonist that "designs" dreams. Except inception is more like a heist film than a true science fiction one.
@fromstart2finish The imagery is also quite different with Paprika being bright and colorful and Inception being dark and foreboding. Practically the only thing they share is the idea of delving into someone's dreams but that's not a very explored subject in film
And i don't think no one else in america except it's cult followers know of Ghost in The SHell and call The Matrix original, do you think The Matrix is the same film as GITS?
Its not exactly the same film but there were elements borrowed from it to make the matrix. Wachowsky,matrix's director, even admitted to it. Things like the human mind merging with cyberspace and many of the matrix's action sequences can be mirrored almost perfectly with the action scenes from GITS.
Inception is the bandwagon movie of the year, the movie is not bad, but people feel so important/intelligent when they talk about it, as if the rest of us mortals at the theater didn't understand the plot. Just like when Matrix came out, a lot of douches came out empowered and felt that the film spoke directly to them.
@Zerudah I actually had not heard of Black Swan until you mentioned it. Looks interesting! I can see some similarities but I don't know how well I could pull that off.
@zannabbyx123 : if im correct on the movie name the director literally bought the rights to perfect blue to recreate entire scenes in his movie, thats how much he loved it
@Zerudah in defense of Aronofsky and Black Swan... Aronofsky has at least cited Kon and Perfect Blue as an influence. He even owns the rights to Perfect Blue.
@Zerudah in the director's commentary he also cites Kon as a massive influence. I don't think Aronofsky is playing possum, though. Press hasn't begun for Black Swan and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts someone will ask him about it at the Toronto Film Festival and I'm sure he'll credit Kon and Perfect Blue. I hope so, anyway.
Inception may not be an original idea but nowadays, almost nothing is original because really, there are just all taken already. Inception and Paprika are both independent, they're both good (IMO), and really the crap about America ripping off Japan on this one shouldn't really be existing. However, if Nolan created a film that was all about a guy that was traveling through dreams and his adventures and whatnot then yeah I would say Nolan is an unoriginal bastard.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. I can't really trust other people's opinions on Inception, because they're probably going to be biased if they haven't seen a movie with that premise yet. I don't know, I guess I feel like Inception is getting undue attention, as if it was the only movie ever to use dreams like it does.
@TheTjsreviews Not really - Nolan didn't finish in 2006 or whatever. Just because he had the "dream" idea the whole time, doesn't mean he could have taken influences from Paprika. LOOK IT UP - Nolan even admits Paprika as a huge influence to the movie, and the character Ariadne (Ellen Page) was inspired by the main character of Paprika.
It's not a "copy", but the hole idea came from Paprika. People are acting like Inception was the most original production ever, and it's not. Japanese imagination goes way beyond Inception.
@boltsan But when you think of it, Nolan has had the idea of a movie for exploring dreams for a long time. He started to work on making this film in 2001, but put it off to make the Batman movies. Paprika came out in 2006, so how could a film idea from 2001 rip off a movie from 2006.... the answer is..... IT DIDN"T. Both movies are original ideas that just happen to be somewhat alike!
I would not consider it a rip off. It's an inspiration.
If Nolan had the idea of the movie back in 2001, doesn't necessary mean he had the entire vision in his mind as drx stated. Did Nolan state anything specific about the movie back in 2001?
If Nolan seen/read Paprika while planning for Inception, he might had some added plot/scenes that were similar.
Also, Paprika [Anime] is an animated adaption of Tsutsui's novel Paprika, 1993. So the anime isn't an entirely a original idea.
@boltsan i dont remember any holes in inception, what hole idea are you talking about ( learn how to spell shit before you come off stupid trying to make a point)
@boltsan Christopher Nolan had the idea of Inception in 2000 right after memento its been his dream project(figuratively and literally) ever since but he felt he had to do bigger movies before starting Inception(hence The Batman series Batman Begins and TDK are AWESOME and prestige and Insomnia).
Nolan admits to being inspired by matrix and dark city but I didn't here him mention paprika. I'm not sure if he even watches anime. Maybe its just coincidence.
@09tranm From Anime News Network: "Christopher Nolan cites [Paprika] as one of the principal influences and was inspired by its main character to flesh out his character played by Ellen Page, a 'spirit architect' named Ariadne."
@Zerudah Oh sorry I didn't see that interview. Either way calling Inception a rip off of Paprika is like saying The Hangover is a rip off of Dude where's my car(a movie you probably have never heard off). I personally liked Inception better to be honest. Paprika was more imaginative Inception had a more realistic type of feel(not saying that it was realistic but well you get what I mean). They have some similarites but plenty of differences.
@Zerudah Either way my point is calling Inception a rip off is not true. Besides I liked Inception more than paprika so whatever. No movie these days is "truly" original. So many ideas are floating out there. There's nothing wrong with being inspired by other films or literature. Star Wars(the original series) did the same thing and made it its own and was considered to be original at its time(whether or not you like star wars).
@09tranm Not sure how that's the case, when Nolan (indirectly) acknowledges being inspired by Paprika. And Lucas gave Kurosawa credit when it was due and helped fund one of his movies. What the hell has Nolan done for Kon?
@Zerudah Huh. What? Dude you're missing my point. My point is simple Inception is not a rip off of Paprika its merely inspired by it and there's nothing wrong with that. Besides Inception is still a great movie and I liked it more than Paprika.
@09tranm There's something wrong with Nolan and Aronofsky not honoring an animator who just died a few months ago whose films helped some of their biggest movies be contenders for Oscars. But I'm still hoping Nolan will show some integrity and mention Paprika on the Inception home video extras.
@Zerudah Ah I see what you mean and I couldn't agree more. I still stick by my opinion though. I liked Inception better because it was more thrilling but Paprika was definately more imaginative. I sure hope Christopher Nolan does you know give him a note worthy credit. The interesting thing though was the idea of Inception was a dream project of his for about 10 years even before paprika and after matrix. He just felt he needed experience with bigger films before he started working on it.
@Zerudah alright already. I still stand by my opinion though that Inception is not a rip off and merely an Inspiration and I still like Inception better okay. At least you're not trying to start an argument with me unlike other youtube pricks. Thanks for sharing anyway.
@Zerudah Either way both movies are truly great and if you like one more than the other I'd understand. If you found them equal that's cool too. But calling one a rip off of another is just wrong. But you are right Nolan should acknowledge paprika more. He does Acknowledge Matrix and Dark City though(which were good too but not as good as inception in my opinion).
pfff if it is really a rip off, why don't japanese sue them?. I mean again if it is really a rip off and they don't stand for their product, it either means they don't think of it as a rip off, or they just don't care (if they don't know about inception at this point they are just plain ignorant).
Just like Lion King copied Kimba the White Lion, this is another instance. But in the end, no one will care because high majority of Americans don't watch or are even familiar with anime. I don't really care either. Oh well.
@gr8latino: By your logic, why don't we accused Star War of ripping off Samurai film especially Kurosawa's film. Christopher Nolan (the director of Inception) has acknowledged Paprika as a influence for Inception.
@Zerudah: that movie was made way after Star War. You see when US make a movie that took influence from Japanese anime (or any entertainment) then people complain about it. However if Japan make a anime influence from US, then nobody complain. Same thing happen when US remake a Japanese movie. Whenever we remake a Japanese movie, they complain about it. If Japan remake a American movie, nobody complain. This is a example of Double Standard and Japanese supremacy.
@mdo7 Lucas still gave back. Doesn't matter how long it took him to do so. And no one complains on the Japan end because they don't try to hide their influence.
@Zerudah: Of course Japan don't complain, they took a lot influences from USA. But you got to remember there are nunch of double standard dumbasses that think America remaking Asian movie is bad, but they don't realized that Asia also remake American film. they complain when US remake Asian film, but never when Asia remake American film. This is an example of hypocrisy plus Asian Supremacy.
@luvablehamster: I know quite a few but I don't see people complaining about those. I know some Asian film that sort of rip-off American film and nobody complain about it.
@Zerudah: Well how do you know the people that complain about US remaking US film aren't pulling double standard, and are actually Asian supremacists. Of course when Asia remake a American film no one will complain and say "Fuck the American version, Asian is superior, Sieg Heil Asia". Not being racist since I'm Asian myself and I don't support Asian supremacy.
@mdo7 I'm sure there are "can do no wrong" people on that end, but the current problem is we're dealing with "can do no wrong" people in the Nolan camp.
@Zerudah: Well that's why I called those people Asian Supremacist. They will not complain about Japan remaking American film, but complain about US remaking Japanese film. BTW, Paramount Japan has announced last month that Ghost (as in the one with the late Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore) will get a Japanese remake. How's that sound?
Foreigners have remade movies like in Bollywood India they remade Ghostbusters and Elm Street of their own, Turkey did Turkish Star Wars and Turkish Superman, and Italy did Dawn of the Dead their own way called Hell of the Living Dead.
@Johnlindsey289: Well I have found out East Asia (China, Japan) are remaking several of our movies. Japan is going to remake Ghost (U know, the one with Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore), and China remade Cellular into Connected, and more. There are plans for Asia to remake more American movie.
Well anime is a cult thing you know, it's not for everybody except Hayao Miyazaki's movies which are recongized by everyone even Pokemon, Digimon, Sailor Moon and Dragonball Z.
And aren't Akira and Ghost in The Shell the most recongizable anime ever?
@KidSixXx: Christopher Nolan has acknowleged Paprika as a influence for Inception. He said it himself according to Anime News Network. I would agree that there are Asian film that rip-off American movie like the Korean film, H. For some reason that Korean movie plot resemble too much like Silence of the Movie and Seven.
AHA! I knew I couldn't have been the only person who saw the trailer for Inception and made the immediate connection to Paprika! I can't wait to see Inception, it looks so amazing. :) this is a well done mash up, too.
Whoever that claims this movie has nothing to do with inception has clearly never see nothing but this trailer about this movie!. Before saying anything, do yourself a favor and watch this gorgeous movie and you'd understand why inception has a lot of resemblance to paprika.
@devor3 you are absolutely right! I just finished watching Paprika after I head that Inception was inspired by it. I'm sure Inception's storyline will be much different, but after watching Paprika I'm convinced the ideas are the same.
@drewby6789 I know, i don't mean to say it's a complete rip-off but they share similar things. Like getting into dreams and stuff. And there's a hallway scene where the character starts to fall down the hallway...Isn't it too familiar with inception footage?
@zannabbyx123 The movie commercial out now lets me see even more similarities, especially the scene where it looks like there is no gravity and they are being thrown through the hallway. There is a scene exactly like it in Paprika when the main detective is chasing the criminal who stole the device and the whole hallway warps.
@leemcqueen50 Inception's concept was created by Satoshi Kon years ago. You might watch the whole Paprika film before doing an statement without opinion.
@leemcqueen500 he's not making it up. I just finished watching Paprika and Inception was definitely inspired by it! I work at a movie theater so I watched Inception last night
If you actually watched this amazing movie, you'd know that they have similar qualities. Like how they use science to enter the human mind into dreams, the DC Mini. Watch the movie and you'll know what I'm talking about. :)
I said it before and I'll say it again...It's just an inspiration. Every filmmaker has it. The ones who "copy" are the ones who have no sense in great storytelling at all. That's why you see all of these remakes and reboots. Alot of filmmakers are missing out on whats important...Their influences.
massivecrown 3 weeks ago
Though I'm not entirely convinced it apply in this situation, "Good Artists Borrow, Great Artists Steal". Even if Nolan had Paprika in mind when creating Inception, they're both brilliant films on their own and they're both successful - so who cares?
Puzzlelion 1 month ago
even though I'm not a fan of his films i stand by this quote from Jim Jarmusch
"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows.
JerRobertPaulin 2 months ago
@JerRobertPaulin That's true. But there are still some exceptions ..
lyue1996 2 weeks ago
THE VOICE ACTING IS SO GOOD I HAVE TO SEE THIS
twilightawakening 3 months ago
Hollywood steals the show worldwide by stealing the original ideas esp. from Japan
OgrePsycho 9 months ago 9
The first draft of Nolan's script goes back to 2001. THEN AGAIN, Paprika is originally a 1993.
Should be clear what came first now.
aquapendulum 1 year ago 6
Talked to Chris tonite, he told me he hadn't seen it, but that he might now, that I noted that TDK was one of the last movies Kon brought up before he died.
Zerudah 1 year ago
i was really suprised how little credit nolan gave this film
MrSalmon88 1 year ago 6
Hollywood loves anime doesn't it! i mean James cameron, Nolan, Guillermo Del Toro, Michael Bay, The Wachowskis, Zack Snyder, Speilberg, Fincher, Tarantino and more are huge fans of anime and use them for inspiration. For example Avatar was like Mononoke/Nausicaa, The Matrix was like Ghost in The Shell/Akira, Kill Bill was like Ninja Scroll/Golgo 13, Inception like Paprika, The Island like Ghost in The Shell and so much more.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289 I agree with everything else exept Avatar was more like ferngully than princess mononoke
lostchild06 1 year ago
@lostchild06
If you think Avatar is like Ferngully then do you think The Matrix is like Ghost in The Shell? you don't hear anyone saying Ghost in The Shell when they see The Matrix or is GITS not a very common movie among the masses when they think The Matrix is an original movie?
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289 Yes, I do think the matrix is like ghost in the shell. I dont even know what you're trying to ask in the last question though... it's like you're just rambling
lostchild06 1 year ago
dude paprika was the shit
piranaut 1 year ago
Aprillis: " Dramatic character study of [...] the various mental illnesses and emotional problems of the principal cast, [...] deconstruction of the Mecha genre and a commentary on post-postwar Japanese society."
I said it ripped off more than just Gundam. For example, the way the mecha loses control as soon as Shinji gets knocked out and kills his friend is straight from Guyver.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@fromstart2finish Hallway scenes are quite common in dreams, it's classic anxiety attack in a similar vein as walls closing in and appearing naked in front of an audience. Both movies played along with this situation in different ways. And the Paprika-like character in Inception is probably a homage to Paprika itself, since Nolan acknowledged he was inspired by the anime to a certain degree.
But other than that, both directors took one theme (dream-sharing) and spun their own versions of it.
Aprillis29 1 year ago
@fromstart2finish God, the Japanese are so superior to those dumb, idea-stealing Hollywood people! It's not like the father of anime, Osamu Tezuka was inspired by Bambi, Betty Boop and Mickey Mouse when he was developing his style that will be the foundation of modern anime or anything, right??
Get over it will you. Comparing Paprika with Inception is like comparing Gundam with Macross or Eva -- gasp there's mecha in all the shows; they are ripping off each other!!!1 Geez.
Aprillis29 1 year ago
@Aprillis29 Well, they certainly paid Tezuka back by ripping off Jungle Emperor Leo and an AB episode for The Lion King and Fantastic Voyage. Also, Eva is inspired by Gundam, and ripped off a helluva lot more than that.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah Eva: (tvtropes) Dramatic character study of [...] the various mental illnesses and emotional problems of the principal cast, [...] deconstruction of the Mecha genre and a commentary on post-postwar Japanese society.
Gundam: political, military Space Opera.
That sounds the same to you?
Aprillis29 1 year ago
@Aprillis29 Not my problem. Anno still met with Tomino to let him know he liked Gundam.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Aprillis29
Dont put words in my mouth dude, i didnt say all hollywood directors are dumb and steal other ppls ideas. Even though most of them do.
fromstart2finish 1 year ago
what pisses me off is that america is going crazy for inception and is calling it "original" and a "masterpiece" and it is just a ripoff of a real work of art. And most americans have never even heard of paprika! *rage*
god
fromstart2finish 1 year ago 2
@fromstart2finish Paprika =/= Inception. Actually both movies are excellent but there are quite a few differences that set eachother apart. Inception is about a team that goes into peoples dreams to plant ideas where as Paprika envisions ability as more of a therapy tool. The dreamscapes themselves are quite different. Paprika has landscapes that shift and meld into eachother quickly whereas Inception has more concrete less moving layers of dream landscapes
artgeek707 1 year ago 2
@artgeek707
Yeah, those differences are obvious, but both films share a hallway scene where something weird happens, and have a female protagonist that "designs" dreams. Except inception is more like a heist film than a true science fiction one.
fromstart2finish 1 year ago
@fromstart2finish The imagery is also quite different with Paprika being bright and colorful and Inception being dark and foreboding. Practically the only thing they share is the idea of delving into someone's dreams but that's not a very explored subject in film
artgeek707 1 year ago
@fromstart2finish
And i don't think no one else in america except it's cult followers know of Ghost in The SHell and call The Matrix original, do you think The Matrix is the same film as GITS?
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289
Its not exactly the same film but there were elements borrowed from it to make the matrix. Wachowsky,matrix's director, even admitted to it. Things like the human mind merging with cyberspace and many of the matrix's action sequences can be mirrored almost perfectly with the action scenes from GITS.
fromstart2finish 1 year ago
@fromstart2finish
Only GITS kicks Matrix in the ass and Kusanagi would pwn Trinity.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289
yea
fromstart2finish 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289
Hollywood just loves japanese films
animated or not. They think just because its from another counrty no one in america will recognized the similiarities and start connecting the dots.
fromstart2finish 1 year ago
cheeky!
But alas no one will be borrowing more from the fertile mind of Satoshi Kon...RIP
jalusbrian 1 year ago 2
@jalusbrian "fertile mind"...what a perfect way to describe Kon :)
Grey249 1 year ago
Inception is the bandwagon movie of the year, the movie is not bad, but people feel so important/intelligent when they talk about it, as if the rest of us mortals at the theater didn't understand the plot. Just like when Matrix came out, a lot of douches came out empowered and felt that the film spoke directly to them.
alecton 1 year ago 3
R.I.P. Satoshi Kon.
Zerudah 1 year ago
I still haven't seen Inception, but when I first saw the trailer I immediately thought of Paprika.
The real question here now I think is, is this really worth arguing and namecalling over? Good Lord people- get a grip.
xxxmachinesofhatexxx 1 year ago
Time to get crackin' on the Perfect Blue/ Black Swan mash-up!
Zerudah 1 year ago 23
@Zerudah I actually had not heard of Black Swan until you mentioned it. Looks interesting! I can see some similarities but I don't know how well I could pull that off.
zannabbyx123 1 year ago 4
@zannabbyx123 : if im correct on the movie name the director literally bought the rights to perfect blue to recreate entire scenes in his movie, thats how much he loved it
Raxer21 1 year ago
@Raxer21 He just didn't love it enough to give it credit.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@zannabbyx123 The Black Swan is the latest Darren Arronovsky Master Piece
Its epic ..
its not out yet and i can already tell its going to be so ! :D
Xploratio 1 year ago
@Zerudah in defense of Aronofsky and Black Swan... Aronofsky has at least cited Kon and Perfect Blue as an influence. He even owns the rights to Perfect Blue.
TetraVaalBioSecurity 1 year ago
@TetraVaalBioSecurity He's cited it for Requiem but playing possum on Black Swan.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah in the director's commentary he also cites Kon as a massive influence. I don't think Aronofsky is playing possum, though. Press hasn't begun for Black Swan and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts someone will ask him about it at the Toronto Film Festival and I'm sure he'll credit Kon and Perfect Blue. I hope so, anyway.
TetraVaalBioSecurity 1 year ago
@TetraVaalBioSecurity Well, I hope you're right. Nolan was enough of a dick about the whole charade when his PR people called Inception "original".
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah agreed. Nolan is a massive douche.
TetraVaalBioSecurity 1 year ago
Inception may not be an original idea but nowadays, almost nothing is original because really, there are just all taken already. Inception and Paprika are both independent, they're both good (IMO), and really the crap about America ripping off Japan on this one shouldn't really be existing. However, if Nolan created a film that was all about a guy that was traveling through dreams and his adventures and whatnot then yeah I would say Nolan is an unoriginal bastard.
Heyprinny 1 year ago 2
@Heyprinny
Anime and Japan are influential among Hollywood as filmmakers like Nolan, Lucas, Cameron, Wachowskis and more are fans of anime and Japanese cinema.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
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Heyprinny 1 year ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. I can't really trust other people's opinions on Inception, because they're probably going to be biased if they haven't seen a movie with that premise yet. I don't know, I guess I feel like Inception is getting undue attention, as if it was the only movie ever to use dreams like it does.
iwuvsweeney 1 year ago
@TheTjsreviews Not really - Nolan didn't finish in 2006 or whatever. Just because he had the "dream" idea the whole time, doesn't mean he could have taken influences from Paprika. LOOK IT UP - Nolan even admits Paprika as a huge influence to the movie, and the character Ariadne (Ellen Page) was inspired by the main character of Paprika.
drxwnedxwxrld 1 year ago
It's not a "copy", but the hole idea came from Paprika. People are acting like Inception was the most original production ever, and it's not. Japanese imagination goes way beyond Inception.
boltsan 1 year ago 63
@boltsan But when you think of it, Nolan has had the idea of a movie for exploring dreams for a long time. He started to work on making this film in 2001, but put it off to make the Batman movies. Paprika came out in 2006, so how could a film idea from 2001 rip off a movie from 2006.... the answer is..... IT DIDN"T. Both movies are original ideas that just happen to be somewhat alike!
Cade9522 1 year ago
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kaji240 1 year ago
@Cade9522
I would not consider it a rip off. It's an inspiration.
If Nolan had the idea of the movie back in 2001, doesn't necessary mean he had the entire vision in his mind as drx stated. Did Nolan state anything specific about the movie back in 2001?
If Nolan seen/read Paprika while planning for Inception, he might had some added plot/scenes that were similar.
Also, Paprika [Anime] is an animated adaption of Tsutsui's novel Paprika, 1993. So the anime isn't an entirely a original idea.
kaji240 1 year ago
@boltsan i dont remember any holes in inception, what hole idea are you talking about ( learn how to spell shit before you come off stupid trying to make a point)
flame1on1hulk1smash 1 year ago
@boltsan Matrix and Dark City are also exploring the dream/reality manipulation aspect so....
psychospinny 1 year ago
@boltsan Christopher Nolan had the idea of Inception in 2000 right after memento its been his dream project(figuratively and literally) ever since but he felt he had to do bigger movies before starting Inception(hence The Batman series Batman Begins and TDK are AWESOME and prestige and Insomnia).
Nolan admits to being inspired by matrix and dark city but I didn't here him mention paprika. I'm not sure if he even watches anime. Maybe its just coincidence.
09tranm 1 year ago
@09tranm From Anime News Network: "Christopher Nolan cites [Paprika] as one of the principal influences and was inspired by its main character to flesh out his character played by Ellen Page, a 'spirit architect' named Ariadne."
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah Oh sorry I didn't see that interview. Either way calling Inception a rip off of Paprika is like saying The Hangover is a rip off of Dude where's my car(a movie you probably have never heard off). I personally liked Inception better to be honest. Paprika was more imaginative Inception had a more realistic type of feel(not saying that it was realistic but well you get what I mean). They have some similarites but plenty of differences.
09tranm 1 year ago
@09tranm Well, yeah, except no one was callin' Hangover "original".
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah Either way my point is calling Inception a rip off is not true. Besides I liked Inception more than paprika so whatever. No movie these days is "truly" original. So many ideas are floating out there. There's nothing wrong with being inspired by other films or literature. Star Wars(the original series) did the same thing and made it its own and was considered to be original at its time(whether or not you like star wars).
But you get my point right.
09tranm 1 year ago
@09tranm Not sure how that's the case, when Nolan (indirectly) acknowledges being inspired by Paprika. And Lucas gave Kurosawa credit when it was due and helped fund one of his movies. What the hell has Nolan done for Kon?
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah Huh. What? Dude you're missing my point. My point is simple Inception is not a rip off of Paprika its merely inspired by it and there's nothing wrong with that. Besides Inception is still a great movie and I liked it more than Paprika.
09tranm 1 year ago
@09tranm There's something wrong with Nolan and Aronofsky not honoring an animator who just died a few months ago whose films helped some of their biggest movies be contenders for Oscars. But I'm still hoping Nolan will show some integrity and mention Paprika on the Inception home video extras.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah Ah I see what you mean and I couldn't agree more. I still stick by my opinion though. I liked Inception better because it was more thrilling but Paprika was definately more imaginative. I sure hope Christopher Nolan does you know give him a note worthy credit. The interesting thing though was the idea of Inception was a dream project of his for about 10 years even before paprika and after matrix. He just felt he needed experience with bigger films before he started working on it.
09tranm 1 year ago
@09tranm Paprika novel pre-dates Inception script.
Zerudah 1 year ago 2
@Zerudah alright already. I still stand by my opinion though that Inception is not a rip off and merely an Inspiration and I still like Inception better okay. At least you're not trying to start an argument with me unlike other youtube pricks. Thanks for sharing anyway.
09tranm 1 year ago
@Zerudah Either way both movies are truly great and if you like one more than the other I'd understand. If you found them equal that's cool too. But calling one a rip off of another is just wrong. But you are right Nolan should acknowledge paprika more. He does Acknowledge Matrix and Dark City though(which were good too but not as good as inception in my opinion).
09tranm 1 year ago
@boltsan Keep in mind that the animation got ITS inspiration from the book... It's not COPYING in either case, merely inspiration
OswaldtheFourth 1 year ago
@OswaldtheFourth AND it is CREDITED.
alifelesscritic 2 weeks ago
@boltsan did you know nolan got even the title for his movie from (an interview with) satoshi ?!
alifelesscritic 2 weeks ago
pfff if it is really a rip off, why don't japanese sue them?. I mean again if it is really a rip off and they don't stand for their product, it either means they don't think of it as a rip off, or they just don't care (if they don't know about inception at this point they are just plain ignorant).
nevarky 1 year ago
You thought of Paprika too? Same with me.
Katana991 1 year ago
Just like Lion King copied Kimba the White Lion, this is another instance. But in the end, no one will care because high majority of Americans don't watch or are even familiar with anime. I don't really care either. Oh well.
gr8latino 1 year ago
@gr8latino: By your logic, why don't we accused Star War of ripping off Samurai film especially Kurosawa's film. Christopher Nolan (the director of Inception) has acknowledged Paprika as a influence for Inception.
mdo7 1 year ago
@mdo7 Because Lucas did produce one of Kurosawa's movies?
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah: that movie was made way after Star War. You see when US make a movie that took influence from Japanese anime (or any entertainment) then people complain about it. However if Japan make a anime influence from US, then nobody complain. Same thing happen when US remake a Japanese movie. Whenever we remake a Japanese movie, they complain about it. If Japan remake a American movie, nobody complain. This is a example of Double Standard and Japanese supremacy.
mdo7 1 year ago
@mdo7 Lucas still gave back. Doesn't matter how long it took him to do so. And no one complains on the Japan end because they don't try to hide their influence.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah: Of course Japan don't complain, they took a lot influences from USA. But you got to remember there are nunch of double standard dumbasses that think America remaking Asian movie is bad, but they don't realized that Asia also remake American film. they complain when US remake Asian film, but never when Asia remake American film. This is an example of hypocrisy plus Asian Supremacy.
mdo7 1 year ago
@mdo7 I can't think of that many movies that were remakes of American films though.
luvablehamster 1 year ago
@luvablehamster: I know quite a few but I don't see people complaining about those. I know some Asian film that sort of rip-off American film and nobody complain about it.
mdo7 1 year ago
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Zerudah 1 year ago
@mdo7 Maybe because no one starts calling Asian films "original" when they get caught cribbing?
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah: Well how do you know the people that complain about US remaking US film aren't pulling double standard, and are actually Asian supremacists. Of course when Asia remake a American film no one will complain and say "Fuck the American version, Asian is superior, Sieg Heil Asia". Not being racist since I'm Asian myself and I don't support Asian supremacy.
mdo7 1 year ago
@mdo7 I'm sure there are "can do no wrong" people on that end, but the current problem is we're dealing with "can do no wrong" people in the Nolan camp.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah: Well that's why I called those people Asian Supremacist. They will not complain about Japan remaking American film, but complain about US remaking Japanese film. BTW, Paramount Japan has announced last month that Ghost (as in the one with the late Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore) will get a Japanese remake. How's that sound?
mdo7 1 year ago
@mdo7 I dug Ghost, but Hollywood's already done its own shitty rip-offs of it, so I guess I'm ok with it.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah: Asia has done rip-off of American film also. It's get more interesting because Japan is planning for remake of several other western film.
mdo7 1 year ago
@mdo7
Foreigners have remade movies like in Bollywood India they remade Ghostbusters and Elm Street of their own, Turkey did Turkish Star Wars and Turkish Superman, and Italy did Dawn of the Dead their own way called Hell of the Living Dead.
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289: Well I have found out East Asia (China, Japan) are remaking several of our movies. Japan is going to remake Ghost (U know, the one with Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore), and China remade Cellular into Connected, and more. There are plans for Asia to remake more American movie.
mdo7 1 year ago
@gr8latino
Well anime is a cult thing you know, it's not for everybody except Hayao Miyazaki's movies which are recongized by everyone even Pokemon, Digimon, Sailor Moon and Dragonball Z.
And aren't Akira and Ghost in The Shell the most recongizable anime ever?
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
I love how Inception is a somehow a rip-off of Paprika, but Paprika is somehow not a rip-off of Dreamscape.
KidSixXx 1 year ago
@KidSixXx: Christopher Nolan has acknowleged Paprika as a influence for Inception. He said it himself according to Anime News Network. I would agree that there are Asian film that rip-off American movie like the Korean film, H. For some reason that Korean movie plot resemble too much like Silence of the Movie and Seven.
mdo7 1 year ago
AHA! I knew I couldn't have been the only person who saw the trailer for Inception and made the immediate connection to Paprika! I can't wait to see Inception, it looks so amazing. :) this is a well done mash up, too.
xStarskyx 1 year ago
I love this movie-Paprika! Inception does have simularities to Paprika, but they have diffrent storylines in a way.
Theo2kitty 1 year ago
@TheTjsreviews Tsutsui's been writing longer than Nolan, so who's so say he didn't have the idea first?
Zerudah 1 year ago
Whoever that claims this movie has nothing to do with inception has clearly never see nothing but this trailer about this movie!. Before saying anything, do yourself a favor and watch this gorgeous movie and you'd understand why inception has a lot of resemblance to paprika.
devor3 1 year ago
@devor3 you are absolutely right! I just finished watching Paprika after I head that Inception was inspired by it. I'm sure Inception's storyline will be much different, but after watching Paprika I'm convinced the ideas are the same.
drewby6789 1 year ago
@drewby6789 I know, i don't mean to say it's a complete rip-off but they share similar things. Like getting into dreams and stuff. And there's a hallway scene where the character starts to fall down the hallway...Isn't it too familiar with inception footage?
devor3 1 year ago
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Worst video ever.
Looks nothing like Inception.
leemcqueen500 1 year ago
@leemcqueen500 It's not 100% like Inception no, but if you watch Paprika you could notice some similarities. Sorry you hate it though.
zannabbyx123 1 year ago 8
@zannabbyx123 The movie commercial out now lets me see even more similarities, especially the scene where it looks like there is no gravity and they are being thrown through the hallway. There is a scene exactly like it in Paprika when the main detective is chasing the criminal who stole the device and the whole hallway warps.
toki119 1 year ago
@leemcqueen50 Inception's concept was created by Satoshi Kon years ago. You might watch the whole Paprika film before doing an statement without opinion.
avalonpreen 1 year ago
@avalonpreen To be more accurate, Kon's movie is an adaptation of a novel from about 20 years back, and which is sadly only in English in the UK.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@avalonpreen Eh i have seen the whole flim ball bag. You shouldn't type things that are not true.
leemcqueen500 1 year ago
@leemcqueen500 he's not making it up. I just finished watching Paprika and Inception was definitely inspired by it! I work at a movie theater so I watched Inception last night
drewby6789 1 year ago
@leemcqueen500
If you actually watched this amazing movie, you'd know that they have similar qualities. Like how they use science to enter the human mind into dreams, the DC Mini. Watch the movie and you'll know what I'm talking about. :)
PIumpomatic 1 year ago
@leemcqueen500 Duh, Inception came from this !
lyue1996 1 year ago
@leemcqueen500
someone has the IQ of -9001.
ThePOKOkitty 1 year ago
@ThePOKOkitty What?!!...Its over 9000!! ;D
iamvegeta2008 1 year ago 3
another excellent video mashup! also accurate use of characters..Good work!
jalusbrian 1 year ago
@jalusbrian Thank you very much :)
zannabbyx123 1 year ago