terrible, terrible form. The forward trunk lean is ridiculous. Depth, foot stance, hand position, weight distribution, starting position, knee alignment all terrible. This is a great video of how NOT to squat
4th: YOur knees are sliding forward at the bottom. Knees should stay STILL at the last 1/2 of the descent, and the first 1/2 of the ascent.
5th: My personal opinion: Your grip seems way to wide and bar placement could be lower. That is my personal preference, but I think a low-bar position/narrower grip increases safety. It locks the barbell perfectly on your back.
I'll agree that there shouldn't be much knee drift at the beginning of the descent but I'll disagree with the comment about no knee drift after hitting parallel...watch some pro oly lifters
@ShadowNINku I think you misunderstood what I meant. I mean that all knee drift should be 'completed' within 1/2 of the descent. The knees should find their correct position during the first 1/2 of the descent, then stay locked in that position as long as you are under parallell.
This means that there should be no knee drift as long as you are under parallell.
Any knee drift under parallell compromises hamstring activation, AND it sets your knees at risk. The more forward your knee comes over your toes, the greater the load on the knee. (Simple physics really)
And watching pro oly lifters is a bad idea when learning form. They have trained for years, and often have their 'own' technique that works for them. This technique may involve severe inward knee buckling etc, but it's important to remember that these are people who have trained for years, and have a very stable knee joint.
For the average Joe, just starting out, it's not a good idea to copy a oly-lifters technique by watching a video. It's better to read up on the subject, and thus get a better understanding the anatomy of the squat.
"Look forward and slightly up" is contrary to Rippetoe's low-bar back-squat form. Rip specifically instructs to look down at the floor in front of the platform to develop maximum hip power, and he demonstrates how looking up can steal power from the hip drive.
I should be in the cage..the cage in the video was quite small. I was not working with heavy weight so it was ok, but it is always best to work in a cage. especially with heavier weight.
I don't get that 3 second rule. 3 seconds down and 3 seconds UP? Maybe so for lowering, but even the person in the video is pushing himself up in about 1 second. 3 down and 1 up seems typical, but it can depend on whether you're doing strength (exploding up) or endurance.
From what i see in the gym most guys are too inflexible to get to a low bar position on their back. Theres nothing wrong with the video its just aimed at people who have never done squats before.
I've never seen this. If a person can't assume the low bar position effortlessly, they can almost always get there immediately by pulling on the bar until it "grinds" down their shirt and into position. If that causes problems, dislocates with either PVC or a band usually fix the anterior shoulder flexibility issue within two weeks.
and when the bar is on your scapulas you should raise your elbows so that they point almost straight back behind you creating a shelf on the shoulders for the bar to rest on so it will stay in position.
You can create this shelf just as effectively by learning to properly drive the elbows forward. This also prevents any kind of forward pitch during the ascent, which is the only major problem seen with the high-elbow position (at least, during the lift; driving forward is also easier on the shoulder joint, but that's not quite as relevant here).
The knees popping is only an issue if it hurts you. I'm 14 and my knees pop on almost every rep. This video by the way is extremely wrong. The bar should not be on the trapezius for a low bar back squat, it should be on the spines of the scapulas. For a high bar back squat thats fine but this is not a high bar squat. Also the head should NEVER be looking down in a low bar squat. Your chin should be in the position it would be in if you were to hold a tennis ball between your chin and your neck
not necessarily. you can do the squatting part of a back squat correctly with the hip drive and all AND have a high bar set up. It just means that you can't drop your chin down or else the bar will roll farther onto your neck, meaning that the bar position in this is completely wrong
I think you mean "NEVER be looking up". The tennis ball position has you looking at a spot on the floor a short distance in front of you for most of the rep.
Don't "step slowly from the squat cage"!! Squat INSIDE the goddamn thing. That's what it's for. If you can squat outside of the rack without a spotter and have no fear then you are not using a heavy enough weight.
I like doing squats but they always make my knees and hips hurt. They also my iceband tendon which of the outside of the thigh and goes all the way up to the hip flexors really tight so the next i due squats it hurts like hell. its weird cause am only 19 years old and should have this probelm but i do and its annoying. is there anything i can do about this or no.
could be related to a quad hamstring imbalance or a loose ligament. I had the opposite problem where my knee would go out on small exercises but be good for the big ones. try more stuff that focuses on the lower quad like biking or quad extension machine, and maybe wrap when squatting :) Happy lifting
Not true, those who cannot go low either have poor hip and/or ankle flexibility (both solvable) or their natural proportions do not allow them to. Tbh, I don't remember why I even said what I said.
I'd just like to know when calculate the squatting weight ie: 300lbs or something are they including the bars weight in the calculation?
nerdfreakloser 5 months ago
Go lower!
skullmurdoc 10 months ago
How not to squat...seriously - I hope you don't teach this to your clients?
KennetWaale 1 year ago
terrible, terrible form. The forward trunk lean is ridiculous. Depth, foot stance, hand position, weight distribution, starting position, knee alignment all terrible. This is a great video of how NOT to squat
trinity9011 1 year ago
4th: YOur knees are sliding forward at the bottom. Knees should stay STILL at the last 1/2 of the descent, and the first 1/2 of the ascent.
5th: My personal opinion: Your grip seems way to wide and bar placement could be lower. That is my personal preference, but I think a low-bar position/narrower grip increases safety. It locks the barbell perfectly on your back.
iCookie1 2 years ago
I'll agree that there shouldn't be much knee drift at the beginning of the descent but I'll disagree with the comment about no knee drift after hitting parallel...watch some pro oly lifters
ShadowNINku 2 years ago
@ShadowNINku I think you misunderstood what I meant. I mean that all knee drift should be 'completed' within 1/2 of the descent. The knees should find their correct position during the first 1/2 of the descent, then stay locked in that position as long as you are under parallell.
This means that there should be no knee drift as long as you are under parallell.
iCookie1 2 years ago
Any knee drift under parallell compromises hamstring activation, AND it sets your knees at risk. The more forward your knee comes over your toes, the greater the load on the knee. (Simple physics really)
iCookie1 2 years ago
And watching pro oly lifters is a bad idea when learning form. They have trained for years, and often have their 'own' technique that works for them. This technique may involve severe inward knee buckling etc, but it's important to remember that these are people who have trained for years, and have a very stable knee joint.
iCookie1 2 years ago
For the average Joe, just starting out, it's not a good idea to copy a oly-lifters technique by watching a video. It's better to read up on the subject, and thus get a better understanding the anatomy of the squat.
Source : Starting Strength 2nd Edition
iCookie1 2 years ago
This is fail in several ways.
1st: Your toes. Why are they pointing straight ahead? This places immense pressure on your knee joint.
2nd: Your depth. Stopping at parallell is also worse for knees than actually going below parallell.
3rd: Looking up compromises hamstring/glute activation (hipdrive). Looking at a point on the floor 6 feet away from you, is a better option.
iCookie1 2 years ago
"Look forward and slightly up" is contrary to Rippetoe's low-bar back-squat form. Rip specifically instructs to look down at the floor in front of the platform to develop maximum hip power, and he demonstrates how looking up can steal power from the hip drive.
GriefEriksson 2 years ago 6
@GriefEriksson Well he's wrong.
happymand 1 year ago
depth and form fail
IrishMarc1 2 years ago
Do a quick utube search for: squatprecision. This device develops perfect, legal squat depth for Powerlifters.
Benching341 2 years ago
Curious, how come your squatting outside of the rack as oppossed to inside of it with the safety catches?
CorpseGrinder18 2 years ago
I should be in the cage..the cage in the video was quite small. I was not working with heavy weight so it was ok, but it is always best to work in a cage. especially with heavier weight.
athlete365 2 years ago
squat looks solid but foot placement should toes 30 degrees out or more depending on squat width.....knees should track toes
thaOrleanyte 2 years ago
I don't get that 3 second rule. 3 seconds down and 3 seconds UP? Maybe so for lowering, but even the person in the video is pushing himself up in about 1 second. 3 down and 1 up seems typical, but it can depend on whether you're doing strength (exploding up) or endurance.
geminito 2 years ago
he just means take 3 seconds to go down and 3 seconds to get back up. this consistent set
poisunoskid 2 years ago
customizedworkoutplans (.com) has the right technique for the back squat... thats whats up
thefitathlete 2 years ago
From what i see in the gym most guys are too inflexible to get to a low bar position on their back. Theres nothing wrong with the video its just aimed at people who have never done squats before.
jacks0003 2 years ago
I've never seen this. If a person can't assume the low bar position effortlessly, they can almost always get there immediately by pulling on the bar until it "grinds" down their shirt and into position. If that causes problems, dislocates with either PVC or a band usually fix the anterior shoulder flexibility issue within two weeks.
jonnosferatu 2 years ago
exactly. that's why the guy in the video is doing it wrong. fucktard
afeld4171 2 years ago
and when the bar is on your scapulas you should raise your elbows so that they point almost straight back behind you creating a shelf on the shoulders for the bar to rest on so it will stay in position.
afeld4171 2 years ago
You can create this shelf just as effectively by learning to properly drive the elbows forward. This also prevents any kind of forward pitch during the ascent, which is the only major problem seen with the high-elbow position (at least, during the lift; driving forward is also easier on the shoulder joint, but that's not quite as relevant here).
jonnosferatu 2 years ago
The knees popping is only an issue if it hurts you. I'm 14 and my knees pop on almost every rep. This video by the way is extremely wrong. The bar should not be on the trapezius for a low bar back squat, it should be on the spines of the scapulas. For a high bar back squat thats fine but this is not a high bar squat. Also the head should NEVER be looking down in a low bar squat. Your chin should be in the position it would be in if you were to hold a tennis ball between your chin and your neck
afeld4171 2 years ago
hahah, shut yo ass up 14 yearold
astocsm 2 years ago
hey cheesedick how about when you can lift more than a 14 year old than you come talk to me, ok pussy?
afeld4171 2 years ago
He never says it's a low bar back squat, fucktard.
dJoeG111 2 years ago
Fuck you. he says the bar should be on the trapezius. and he is doing a low bar back squat with a high bar set up.
afeld4171 2 years ago
It's impossible to to do low-bar back squat with a high-bar position. heh.
dJoeG111 2 years ago
not necessarily. you can do the squatting part of a back squat correctly with the hip drive and all AND have a high bar set up. It just means that you can't drop your chin down or else the bar will roll farther onto your neck, meaning that the bar position in this is completely wrong
afeld4171 2 years ago
I think you mean "NEVER be looking up". The tennis ball position has you looking at a spot on the floor a short distance in front of you for most of the rep.
jonnosferatu 2 years ago
rippetoe in the house
utubeaccount00 2 years ago
Don't "step slowly from the squat cage"!! Squat INSIDE the goddamn thing. That's what it's for. If you can squat outside of the rack without a spotter and have no fear then you are not using a heavy enough weight.
mensacyclist 2 years ago 3
I like doing squats but they always make my knees and hips hurt. They also my iceband tendon which of the outside of the thigh and goes all the way up to the hip flexors really tight so the next i due squats it hurts like hell. its weird cause am only 19 years old and should have this probelm but i do and its annoying. is there anything i can do about this or no.
cdeavellar1 2 years ago
I would like to do these; but my knee often pops whenever I try. Is there anything I can do?
locustsymphony 2 years ago
you might be squatting more than you should.
aznflea 2 years ago
and you may be preaching.
locustsymphony 2 years ago
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whoops whoops whoops--- forget that last comment on preaching. I misread it; I mean nothing by it!
locustsymphony 2 years ago
whoops whoops whoops--- forget that last comment on preaching. I misread it; I mean nothing by it!
locustsymphony 2 years ago
could be related to a quad hamstring imbalance or a loose ligament. I had the opposite problem where my knee would go out on small exercises but be good for the big ones. try more stuff that focuses on the lower quad like biking or quad extension machine, and maybe wrap when squatting :) Happy lifting
DKerelchuk 2 years ago
god!the bar still hurts my neck even when i tense my traps!!!!
cubuwu 3 years ago
Means the bar is too high.
areharald 3 years ago
Thanks a lot for this vid.
He wasnt going for 3 secs each though surely?
slippyg 3 years ago
sorry about that.
athlete365 3 years ago
lets add 30 seconds of nothing just for the fun of it lol
rundat 3 years ago 2
good vid, Perfect form!!!
tomgt007 3 years ago
ATG squats have been shown to be safer on the knees and promote flexibility, assuming you have no existing back or knee injuries
konelreborn 4 years ago 10
Few people have the flexibility to keep the lower back straight going that low.
PaskaJarkko 3 years ago
Not true, those who cannot go low either have poor hip and/or ankle flexibility (both solvable) or their natural proportions do not allow them to. Tbh, I don't remember why I even said what I said.
konelreborn 3 years ago
I can only do ATG on front squats, doing it on back squats hurts my lower back, shrug.......but ATG squats are an awesome feeling
DKerelchuk 2 years ago
...and should therefore stretch their hamstrings and learn how to properly hold their air.
jonnosferatu 2 years ago
another awesome tutorial! thanks!
vg7z 5 years ago