this is honestly very sad to see, religion may have caused specific people to commit horrible acts but Christianity is the reason Europe even prevailed thru the fall of Rome till the enlightment, Oppression has happened but it wasnt religious beliefs that caused it was people blindly following other men
Funny how the reporter claims europe ows its science and culture to religion, when religion has been working against science at every oppurtunity it gets.
After two millenia of cursades and an inquisition, civil wars/revolutions/nationalism/imperialism with every country, two world wars and a near third, terrorism, scapegoating, and genocide(s); Europe should seattle down for once.
this is good. religion is stupid anyway, we dont need medieval fairy tales. at the current rate of atheism in America, it will come US in a couple of generations, and that will be great.
@Poleabroad No they didnt!!!...arab muslims spent almost a thousand years in spain.Infact you they did NOT rape and they did NOT kill the spanish people.Infact native spainard muslims,spainard christans,arab muslims,arab berbers,and jews lived in peace.Study history loser,it was your own people who raped and killed the muslims in spain.Muslims brought lightness to europe,when europe was in the dark ages.
@Arabchick21 But what they did do, is introduce a 'Jizya tax', a tax that made non-Muslims pay more tax,showing the inequality that Muslims brought to Spain. When the Crusades conquests of the 'Levant' formed Christian states, Muslims and Jews were equal and paid no difference to Christians. They were granted open worship. where as in Spain only Household worship was allowed.
@Arabchick21 The Almohads in Spain persecuted Jews and Christians,forcing most of the 'minority' population at that time to emigrate to Northern Christian Kingdoms as they feared death and 'forced' conversion. Showing the religious segregation that they faced then and are facing today. Assassinations of religious figure of minority groups, a country such as Saudi Arabia, where as Western Countries give 'freedom of religion Constitution.
People in Europe are finally beginning to think for themselfs, god and faith was a good explanation for the world 2000 years when we knew absolutely nothing about science. It is simple god was made up by people who needed an explanation about how they got here. But we now know this to be simply false!
@ConstantineJoseph Well, I´m glad you´re not disrespecting paganism. I´m not trying to disrespect Christianity either, but also want it known that things people THINK happened, only got inserted MUCH later. Like, MOST of the stories of the saints, Constantine, and Julian. And those "results" again can be claimed by ANY religion. Look at Islam! And paganism too when people once believed in the words of the oracle at Delphi. So...don¨t assume it´s JUST Christianity. Faith in general does that.
@ConstantineJoseph Yes, it is hard to prove. Then again, he mostly became Catholic because of his wife. Gregory of Tours claimed that it was because of his victory at the Battle of Tolbiac. So again, sometimes people insert things into the legned AFTER the fact and that doesn´t necessarily mean that´s exactly what happened. People think the pagan Emperor Julian said "You win, Galileean" and he DIDN´T! That was only included in a play MUCH later.
@ConstantineJoseph As for "true religion"...even THAT'S not true. The same could be said for Islam (look how quickly THAT grew and it's already giving Christianity a run for it's money) or Buddhism or any oTHER major religion. And look at the scam religions like the wacko guy that made 100 people commit suicide. So...one can be devout but don't lose your head. In the end, WE decide. The word "worship" once meant to make worthy. We have to decide if something is worth worshipping.
@ConstantineJoseph That's good that at least you agree there was persecution from Christians too, but as for early Christianity...it was a mystery religion that "appealed" to people with a mixture of promise of everlasting life but also fear of damnation and hellfire. I mean...if all I had to do to get into heaven was believe in some guy and he'd forgive any sin I commit...most people would be there too. Only now many more people understand the hypocrisy.
Europe should remain christian in culture i.e it should preserve it in culture similarily to how the Greeks learn about Zeus, because its part of culture. However, believing in that religion is not neccessary
@GodOfUnbelief If it's to preserve any type of culture or identity to go with religion, it should be cultural paganism then. Not monothestic religions that BOTH have a history of stifling and oppression.
Europe. It believes in both nothing and everything... a somewhat confused continent.
Christianity is growing again in Canada and I consider my country to be a relatively liberal place. It has to do with actively involved churches and parishes, serving the community. In Europe, Christianity seems to be more of an identity thing which is NOT what christianity is about; it's about acting as a Christian and living the gospel.
@teahouse100 hahaha thanks to Bollywood stars.... Indian Christians makes 100% of Canada's Christians. They are runnibg away from Indian Hindus... hahahaha Thank you Russell Peters
@BayAreaOrBust because of immigration, not because canadians have are more convinced to send more money to pat robertson after his daily lunch meetings with jesus
@BayAreaOrBust because of immigration, not because canadians are more convinced to send money to pat robertson so they can get the scoop on hi lunch meetings with jesus
@teahouse100 lol growing in Canada! that's a laugh. My school is Catholic and 65% of them are atheist/agnostic. I sure hope not. Keep religion out of Canada!
Not quite sure about a Europe without Christianity at all. I mean why only Christianity. Why not a Europe without Islam or other religions. Why particularly Christianity?
Christianity thrived in the darkest hours of her beginnings with the 3 centuries of Roman persecution and yet the numbers of Christians grew. I do not think Christianity will ever leave Europe. In fact I see a future for Christ.
@ConstantineJoseph Umm..you forget that Christianity itself was ALSO a persecuted people and kept Europe in the Dark Ages for CENTURIES! Don't just blame Rome who actually tolerated many different religions...until they gave them a reason to mistrust them by their vandalism and revolutionary talk (about a king and savior). I see the seeds of their old pagan past growing back and I hope it does. THAT'S their true identity after all, not some prophet from Israel.
No doubt about persecution from Christians. However, through the writings and documentation of early Christianity, our faith was so strong, even extermination could not stop the faith from spreading. Moreover, it is not as if Europe was preached the gospel by people of faith. The witnesses of the Christ himself came to Greece and Rome after Jesus rose from the dead. I can tell you, it isn't about who's right or who's wrong. Its about the true religion that draws men.
Europe in fact did have a chance of going without Christianity after the fall of "Christian" western Roman Empire. The Germanic tribes, were paeanistic and held their values. However, as history records, King Clovis I of the Franks was fighting the battle of Tolbiac. At that battle, he abandoned paganism and embraced Jesus to help the Franks. That was one of the biggest decisions that would change Europe.
@ConstantineJoseph Hehe. No, Christianity was a bit cleverer and more devious than Pagans with their rumors of "visions." Many scholars now seriously doubt most of the stories of the saints and say they were later inventions and even your Constantine's "conversion" they say never took place or was done without his consent. No, Christianity just knew that people responded to miracles. It helped their morale to think that they had "visions." It's the placebo effect to the extreme.
@ConstantineJoseph Don't think it was so easy to separate nations from their ancestral gods! Lithuania was one of the last countries to be Christianized and the majority of their population didn't convert until as late as the 17th century! And even now many more people are converting to other religions or becoming atheists. And if mere numbers meant anything, I guess that means in a few years Islam will get results much faster than Christianity. So people are fickle is all that means.
It is again hard to prove whether one has a vision or not, but a matter of personal faith. Neither does the best scholar know what a man thinks within himself. People are generally devout to their religion unless a major occurrence happens in their life which causes them to reflect and find a solution.
A good example is the pagan King Clovis I of the Franks. He abandoned paganism at the battle of Tolbiac (he was losing) and when he embraced Jesus, he won.
I am not disrespecting Paganism in any means and I am for the notion that God gives men the free will to choose and that is the highest form of love to an individual, to give freedom to others, not to imprison them to any idea.
But time and time again, Christianity has produced results, despite many failings, all due to the sin and imperfection in our natural self. When one truly stops observing soaps at a soap factory and starts using it, one will find the soap can clean.
@mattetho cant you recognize between personal view n official facts? didnt you realize that is my personal view? does my view disgust you? we respect atheist n why didn't they respect our faith n beliefs... your comments show that youre a rude person that doesnt give a damned respect for others thoughts...
For those saying how "Europe deserves what it gets for accepting Islam and not Christianity" need to wake the hell up and stop being hypocritical! Or that Europe somehow "owes Christianity!" Some people never read their history books! When Christianity took over Europe it was the Dark Ages! The church forbade any thoughts against their own! Witch hunts, heresies, plague, and famine! If Islam is now following in Christianity's footsteps maybe people will finally learn secularism is best after all
@mattetho And where, pray tell?! In some speech the Pope gave?! In your deluded mind?! It's a HISTORICAL FACT that Christianity drove Europe to the DARK AGES! And I DARE you to name a history book that proves me wrong! And YOU'RE not name calling, right Mr. "I-Turn-the-Other-Cheek-But-Not-Really!" Stop listening to your stupid priests and READ the damn books for once, then you won't sound like u eat Fox's words for dinner! Heh, if CHRISTIANITY didn't manage to kill Europe, be sure ISLAM won't!
@mattetho And YOU need to stop being so damn hypocritical! You wanna be free to build YOUR churches and uphold YOUR god's laws WITH the government's full backing, right? So again, if you allow for one, you have to allow for them ALL! What the hell's so special about Christianity?! You DARE claim Europe somehow owes it, but when IT ruled, it was Europe's WORST moment! Maybe you're right. Maybe if Islam takes over Europe is doomed. But it'll only be following Christianity's footsteps, won't it?!
@mattetho SO WHAT?! Look at all the churches YOU PEOPLE HAVE BUILT sometimes right next to each other! And again, they're allowing for CERTAIN provisions of sharia law. I'm not happy about that. But if they're allowing for JEWISH COURTS and CLEARLY making allowances for CHRISTIAN laws then why shouldn't they be fair?! I DID LOOK IT UP ASSHOLE! STOP READING FOX'S VERSION AND LOOK IT UP IN AN ACTUAL ARTICLE! Heh, the US is dying too! Killed by Christian fanatics that "wanna rape the earth."
@mattetho I DID research on it and guess what it's mostly about? What it mostly always IS about? MONEY! Sharia courts are cheaper and according to an article I read, not the only type of religious court upheld in Britain. Jewish Beth DIn courts have been operating too! So again the problem with ALL RELIGIONS is if you allow for one, you have to allow for them ALL! Plus, the ArchBishop of Canterbury said "CERTAIN provisions of sharia law" are upheld not all of it! How about you shut up now idiot?
@mattetho No YOU'RE the fool and you keep proving it. Stop saying, "do historical research" when it's clear you never cracked the books open in your life, hypocrite! But dumbass Christians ALWAYS believe what the funny white man in the Vatican says, right u ass?! Ha, you Christians molesters already killed off quite a few pagans your damn selves so maybe I WILL laugh as the Muslims kill YOU! Can you say, "Cosmic karma," dick?! And again, if Christianity couldn't last forever, Islam won't either!
@mattetho No, it's not irrelevant because if they got there illegally, they can have all the kids they want but that doesn't mean they'll be ABLE to erect mosques or force their doctrine into laws. And I've seen MANY children per European couple, many with three or four kids as little as a year or two apart so again...where's this info coming from and what circumstances was this census taken under? And hey if it ever DOES become Islamic then so? It won't last forever. Christianity didn't!
@mattetho Ha again! No, because unlike you who believes everything the church (cuz THEY never lied before, right?) and Fox tell me, I research it and don't give in to mindless paranoia! Yeah, right. Whatever! And look where the US is heading with their dumbass Tea Party and moronic Republican government that claim "it's ok if we rape the earth and waste all the resources since Jesus is coming is coming anyway", right?! Again, practice what you preach you dumb hypocrite and face the damn facts!
@mattetho If you "hit a nerve," it's my outrage at your stupidity! YOU do the research! Like I said, just because Fox News and the Church tells you things, doesn't make it true. EVERY history book will tell you that Christianity brought Europe nothing but ignorance, oppression, and death! And those "examples" you listed were again taken from ancient sources! Thus, Christianity has done NOTHING but WORSENED Europe. HA! And YOU deserve the oppression the US is heading under extreme Christianity!
@mattetho And FYI, Europe can always have a quota for immigrants coming in from the Middle East just like the US does with Mexicans. Thing is the US takes advantage of its illegal immigrants and THAT'S why it's hard to stop it there, but it's hard to work in Europe if you're not in the Union and don't have a visa. If all the Europeans gather together and vote for the right people, they'll be fine. And I've seen MANY babies and strollers there so it's a LIE that they're not re-populating!
@ImperialEarthEmpire Just like Americans, I guess. Letting the stupid Bible-thumping right-wing run the government and then complaining about it when they give tax breaks to the rich and take away the benefits of teachers and then DARE to wonder why we're so far behind China! If Europe goes down, so does the US bc the euro's already stronger and where China HONORS their teachers, we overwork them, take away their benefits, and make them deal with troubled kids as if they were therapists!
@ImperialEarthEmpire Very true. It is. France will always make good food and wine, Spain will always have siestas and bull fights, Italy will always cook with pasta, etc. Why should their way of life change because of religion? It didn't die in the Dark Ages with Christianity so even if Islam over-runs it, it won't last forever! Then, Europe will change again or change back. But somehow I can't see the US without its precious Bible in THEIR laws which is why I left and don't regret it.
@mattetho Wow. Hospitals and universities were all around in ANCIENT times, fool! In fact, ancient Greece, Rome, China, and the Middle East ALL had schools of learning and places for medicine. So again...PAGANISM! The "freedom to live"?!?! Right because THAT was proven with the Dark Ages, the Inquisition and branding people like Darwin, Galileo, and Newton heretics?! Jeez, I'm so glad Europe IS moving away from Christianity if THAT'S the kind of warped history you learned. The gods help you!
@mattetho YOU'RE the idiot and do your OWN damn research, fool! NO IT DOESN"T! What the hell kind of history books have you been reading! Like I said, it gave Europe HUNDREDS of YEARS worth of OPPRESSION, FAMINE, PLAGUE, WITCH HUNTS,TORTURE AND DEATH! Ha! I can't see Europe EVER being Islamic! But of course dubasses like you believe everything the church and the TV tells them, right? And FYI, fool, my wish is for Europe to go back to PAGANISM! What it REALLY owes everything to!
if european have no desire for christian then abolished it... declared it illegal... shut down every church in every single country in europe... i bet there will be no objection from european themselves... let just other continent embrace christianity...
@ImperialEarthEmpire And again, if you're so into the whole "take it or leave it" thing then why don't we go right ahead and abolish ALL religion! If you make allowances for one, you have to for ALL! I really "love" how everyone's saying that Europe will be obliterated by Islam when they forget how it was when CHRISTIANITY ran the place! Witch hunts, the Inquisition, Black Death, heresies! We'd still believe the earth was flat! So again, Islam's following in YOUR precious religion's footsteps!
@ThePaganSun to abolish all religions that is impossible... religions are part of human nature they even create new religions to embrace it n that include atheist... im specifically talking bout christian if christian brings disaster to europeans then abolish it... christian in europe currently in a good condition to be abolished... there will be no objection...
@ImperialEarthEmpire If it was ever possible to abolish Christianity than it would be possible to abolish all religions. And I think you don't quite understand Europeans then. Although they're more sane and more secular than Americans, there are some that are religious too so don't assume that there would be "no objection" to abolishing Christianity. And that wouldn't solve anything bc it's the extremism that's the problem. If religion can stay out of laws and politics, then it wouldn't be bad.
@ThePaganSun you proved my point... there is nothing wrong with christian, people is the real problem here... it is always the people that makes things bad...
@ImperialEarthEmpire That's true. Christianity in and of itself, is not bad. But that's true for ALL religions and atheism! So why do you have a problem with Islam but not Christianity?! If it's true that people make Christianity bad, then the same goes for Islam! And it bothers me that people make EXCUSES for Christianity! And what I don't like about Christianity more than other religions is their hypocrisy. But of course I've only said that a million times. Hopefully, it'll sink in for them.
@ThePaganSun thats why human personally need religions... whether its abrahamic religions, natives faith or new movement... the true nature of religions is to guide people to do good in their life... but unfortunately the people take religions so seriously... i myself a religious but i will not let religions corrupt my scientific thinking...
@ImperialEarthEmpire No, I don't think people NEED religion. It's very sad if you NEED something to tell you how to live your life and how to be a better person. We have brains, why can't we figure it out for ourselves? I just think that they're so rooted in tradition and people's mentalities now that maybe they THINK they need it. But they don't. I love my gods and I'll always honor them, but they don't DEFINE me. Their most important lesson is try helping yourself first. They'll help after.
@ThePaganSun thats not kind of religions im talking about... believe in god is a religion, believe in atheism is a religion, believe in communism is a religion, believe in yourself is a religion... to me religion just another word for faith, philosophy and ideology... thats why im saying mankind need religions, they need something to believe in...
@ImperialEarthEmpire Yeah atheism is the exact OPPOSITE of a religion and they'd get very mad if you told them that. That's like saying Christians really worship Ba'al. Atheism says that no god exists. That's not a religion at all so don't call it that. Communism is governmental and political SYSTEM NOT a religion. A religion is a belief in a sort of deity. Those are NOT "religions." Theories, systems, and other types of beliefs are not religions. I still don't agree. They THINK they need it.
@ThePaganSun im aware of the official meaning of religion but my personal definition of religions is better to be define the way that i mentioned before... those ideology is not a big deal, my big point here is mankind need something to believe in... the core principal of religion is 'believe' and not just god and 'believe' has its place in every stage of life, thats why im saying atheist is a religion... n again that is my personal view...
@ImperialEarthEmpire Yes, but your personal definition of religion is wrong. Beliefs and religions are different. Like cats and lions. All lions are cats, but not all cats are lions. All religions are beliefs but not all beliefs are religions. Atheism ISN'T a religion. I get its your opinion. But I still think that they THINK they need something to believe in. Why do we need a BOOK to tell us what's right and wrong? That basically means that people trust an ancient book more than themselves.
@ThePaganSun the first principle in religion before accepting god is 'believe'... so an atheist in term is actually a religious person because the first thing they did is 'believe' that there is no god...
@ImperialEarthEmpire Atheism is the assertion that there's no god, while religion is the belief that there are gods or is a god. Since the gods of the religions are based on beliefs and can't be proven, atheism is the assertion of that therefore there are no gods. The difference is that atheism isn't quite a "belief" because their views is based on scientific fact and logic which dictate that there are no gods since they can't be seen.
@ImperialEarthEmpire Those are considered religions because they have deities although they like Buddhism can be seen as a philosophy or way of life too since not all sects of these Asian religions have deities. And since I don't know their respective origins (if they originated with deities or not) so i can't say 100%. But they have deities now so I consider them religions. But those I'd understand if someone else doesn't.
@ImperialEarthEmpire That's where you're very wrong. Islam's problem is their extremism and their clinging to old traditional laws that no longer work today. The media and some extreme Muslims are deafening out the more moderate ones. But at least they're NOT hypocritical. If you enter Iran or Iraq, that's YOUR problem. You should know what you're getting yourself into. Christianity on the other hand condemns Islam when there are MANY extreme Christians too! Hypocrisy is Christianity's problem!
@ImperialEarthEmpire No, moderate Muslims are moderate. Again, no, they're not. Extreme and even moderate Christianity is 100 x worse as far as hypocrisy goes. When Muslims are extreme, they show it and admit to it. When they're moderate, they do everything they can to disassociate themselves form the extremists. Christians on the other hand condemn extreme islam but turn a blind eye to those who cry Jesus while bombing abortion clinics! That's the DEFINITION of extremism! Christians are worse!
@ThePaganSun it seem you hate christian so much... im have nothing more to say... im not a european but i personally humble that european did not forget their christian heritage even d christian brought the dark ages n other horror to europe...
@ImperialEarthEmpire I said I don't hate Christians. But if I do why is THAT wrong, but YOU can hate Muslims?! Because that's what I see in your comments and a couple others here too! And like I said, THAT'S what keeps pissing me off! I hate the hypocrisy! You just proved it to me by accusing me of hating your religion when you clearly hate Islam! Answer truthfully. Is that not hypocritical to you? Again, you don't mourn that Christianity brought Europe the Dark Ages so don't when Islam does!
@ThePaganSun i dont hate islam n there is nothing worng with islam either... i just hate their hypocrisy n their extremism... just like you hate hypocrisy in christian... my intention is to express that christianity are europes identity n should not be forgotten from history...
@ImperialEarthEmpire Ok then, maybe we're alike. But I still don't understand how you can make out hypocrisy in Islam. I get that some of them are extreme but hypocritical? How? And explain why you think they're "more hypocritical than Christians" when in my experience it's clearly the other way around. And why then when Christians ARE just as extreme and hypocritical, do you think their history should be saved? Should Islam's history be saved if it ever becomes the dominant religion?
@ImperialEarthEmpire Haha! Sorry. Didn't mean to laugh. I see. Well...I'm sorry then. I guess we both hate more that which hits home. I DO agree that Europe should remain as it is and the Muslims should either assimilate or go back to their more traditional lands. But I lived under Christian hypocrisy in the US and saw it everyday! Those whackjobs that scream "Jesus loves you!" while telling you that you're going to hell unless you repent and convert! I wouldn't wanna live in EITHER society!
@ThePaganSun Hahaha... LOL Yes Jesus love us more than he does with todays Christians because they make him God? Jesus loves us because we love him as prophet of God not God!. The Christians make for him idol! statue!
@Fernandez30301 Yes, I'm a pagan so no human for me should be valued above any other and not even the gods for that matter. We're all pieces of the same universe that constantly changes. I don't get why so many people are so quick to be so subservient to someone they can't even see. I love and honor my gods, but my choices are MY choices, not theirs.
@ImperialEarthEmpire And let me rephrase, PERSONAL Christianity like all personal religions is not bad, but it should NEVER play a part in politics or laws just like some people don't want Islam to play a part in their politics or laws. Secularism is best. Religion should be personal. If it tries to play a part in laws, then it IS bad. Very bad.
@mattetho Wow. People don't learn, do they? THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD WAS BETTER OFF WITHOUT CHRISTIANITY! Name ONE freaking thing, Christianity did for Europe (that wasn't taken or inspired by paganism)! I DARE YOU! Name one!
@faelismaegnus YOU'RE the fool, idiot! Tell me how I'm wrong by stating and argument backed up with FACTS, NOT spewing meaningless insults like a three year old!
@mattetho HAHAHA! "Europe owes everything to Christianity" is the most RETARDED thing I've ever heard. No, idiot, Europe owes everything to PAGANISM! PAGANS were the first to realize the earth was round and that it revolved around the sun! PAGANS inspired the best in Classical art and then again during the Renassaince! It inspired nationalism and culture! Christianity brought plague, the Dark Ages, and the Inquisition! Christianity did NOTHING for Europe! If it goes back, then the gods help you!
@mattetho No he stated in his manifesto that he WAS doing "God's work" and that he WAS a Christian, got it? It was on the freaking NEWS! Cuz athesits are killing in science's name, right? Yeah and calling yourself a Muslim doesn't mean you are. And seriously dudes, stop. If you believe in Christ, you're a Christian and if you believe the tenants of Islam, you're a Muslim. Stop making excuses! This especially goes for you Christian hypocrites! No Jesus was a revolutionist! Educate YOURSELF fool!
christianity is the second pillar of european cultural identity, the first being the classical heritage... if europeans leave out christianity, they may as well leave out their classical heritage... then what would europe be without an history...
@ImperialEarthEmpire Christianity already DID reform! MULTIPLE times I might add! That's what inspired the Protestant movement! And look where that lead! Look at the Christian terrorism in Ireland and N. Ireland! People need to RE-LEARN their history and realize that Christianity did NOTHING for Europe or ANYONE! If anything, PAGANISM is their ancient heritage and what they owe everything to! Paganism actually inspired philosophy! NOT Christianity! So stop with the "Europe owes it" bullshit!
@ImperialEarthEmpire I do! It's proven by research and history! And why should it be abolished though (though I certainly wouldn't complain if it was), but that take it or leave it mentality is what makes religions like yours so dangerous! Plus, the early Christians not only persecuted pagans and Jews but also but also their OWN and branded them heretics! Many of the early Christian philosophy no longer survives except for maybe the Gnostics. So again, please explain wtf was so great about it!
@ThePaganSun if you hate christian so much you should create a movements to free europe from any trace of christianity... remove christianity from european culture n history... banned all religions n put atheism under constitution... many european will support this movement...
@ImperialEarthEmpire Dude. It's not that I "hate" Christians and I'm sorry if it came across that way. It's that I REALLY hate their hypocrisy in not admitting that they can be as bad extreme Islam which they can! And I also hate when people claim that Europe somehow "owes" Christianity when if it "owes" something to anything it should be paganism since almost all of Western civilization was based off ancient Greece or Rome. Have all personal religion u want, but laws should be secular.
@ImperialEarthEmpire No, it's not. Again, SOME secular laws especially in America might be based on Christian beliefs, but if they were BIBLICAL, they'd be almost identical to the fundamental Islamic laws you and everyone here seems to hate so much. So yet again, you are all missing my point which is that if the Bible was followed to the T like the extreme Muslims follow the Koran, they'd be almost identical. And most secular laws are again based on PAGAN beliefs. Hammurabi's code was the first.
@ImperialEarthEmpire For what? It is holding us back! Stem research, prohibition, human rights! You can't reform that which is said to be the final "word." Then what you follow is merely a PHILOSOPHY not a god nor a religion. That makes no sense!
@mattetho Europe owns everything to beards. All the philosophers had beards; the artists, beards... Religion is an artefact of the past, the moment we knew enough, that lightning isn't God's, religion plummeted. There is no "tree of knowledge", there is no "son of god", there is no hell or heaven; yeah fine some Christians did nice things, well hoo-fucking-ra, so what? Progress will be here long after Christ is forgotten. Europe won't become Islamic, Islam is too retarded to take over anything.
@badblueman I am glad your kind will be extinct soon. I think you are retarded and evil minded. You are totally blind of what is coming for you. Islam will not only grow in Europe and take over it will grow all over the world. Do not mix Islam with race/ethnic group retard.
@SMLIPRT Talking about retards...where exactly did you see me mix Islam with race/ethnic groups?
What can I call you SMLIPRT, captain hypocrite, Cpt. irony? I don't mind people telling me what I had coming, that I was an asshole here, naive there, ignorant over there...but calling me evil minded (why? The fuck?); did I kill somebody? Did I entice murder, torture? No I did not. In fact I expressed the polar opposite of evil. So fuck you right there sir. Take your islamoparanoia and shove it.
@leegeorgeson Yup! If it were a Muslim that's ALL people would be talking about, but because it was a Christian, they gloss over it for a day and go back to "crisis in the Middle East!" I'm not a big fan of extreme Islam (especially since I'm a girl), but I hate the Christian HYPOCRISY even more! At least the Muslims stick to their guns! These extreme Christians do the EXACT same thing but believe that because they shout out Jesus instead of Allah that somehow makes it better. Hypocrites! : /
@leegeorgeson Yes, it was! These stupid Christian hypocrites are just making excuses! It was stated on the news and in his manifesto that he was a Christian! Atheists don't go persecuting religions, OTHER religions do! Atheists just wanna be able to not have to teach the "world is 6,000 years old and was made in a day" theory. Stupid religious fanatics need to grow the hell up!
@leegeorgeson Very true! I'm pagan myself (obviously) so I don't mind at all if someone is religious whatever their faith, BUT the REAL problem happens when people want to turn what SHOULD be a personal belief into FACT and make the state VALIDATE that belief! Religion should NEVER play a part in law or politics! It should always stay personal! And even then in the words of Lord Apollo it should be practiced, "Always in moderation!" ;)
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The evangelism is the single way and method educational-social through which it arrive at a human integrated society at international level, without the arms' force and without, machinations' force. The general evangelism impose the international organization of the human society as organization: religious, social and economical.
In Planetary organization:Why Jesus Christ? Because on Jesus Christ -Thora announce him,and Koran extol him and give priority in this world and in the world of afterwards. In Sura 3:37-41 angels said:"O, Mary, God chosen to you and cleaned you and elected among the world's womans. O, Mary, God himself announce you the Word what come from God, his name will be Messiah Jesus, the Mary's Son. Grandly will be He in world from now and in world of afterwards and will be near to God"
• SandustanBrasov Of course, this is the FAITH's BUSINESS between God and Hebrews, business through which the Hebrews,at the spreading among nations they had as charge themselves let demonstrate the them faith face of the alive God and let unfold in the them life the same activities on which they learned from God in those 2000 years of growth of the Israel nation.
And in the blessings from Deuteronomy 28:1; 9 and 13 it show:"If you will listen the Lord's voice the your God, guarding and fulfiling the his commands on which give to you today, the Lord, the your God will give to you PRIORITY about the all nations from Earth...You will be for the Lord a holy nation...if you will guard the commands and will go on the his ways, the Lord will make to you let be HEAD and not tail, always will be upper part, and nevermore beloww.."
In Sura 45:15-16 God and the his archangels show:"And We had given the Israel's sons the Scripture and wisdom, and the prophecy, and had endowed them with goods, and had SELECTED THEM IN FRONT of the world. And We had given them clear signs for - the FAITH's BUSINESS,"
All the terrestrial religions are only different parts of the religion impose by heavenly creatures The Christianity can not let appear without Moses's religion(Mosaism) The islamism can not appear if was not necessary a refreshing of the Christianity and bringing at God to the Abraham's descendants,which it draw from Ishmael and Esau.The Orthodoxism and the Catholicism appeared not if the Christianity was united. but all was so because all was only some stages in the God's work
We as humanity, must let will be contented that the God made us after the "his manner", but which mean very much. Mean as we the men - the mankind - let us touch in a very short time, the divine standard! The God judge us in comparison with the his qualities, and not with others.
Satan is the dragon the great and ancient which through the deception and cunning of the political, economical and financial speculation make happy on those littles and ruin on those many. With those littles Satan load the hell, and on those many hunt them - without as they let know - towards the narrow gateway of the sky: towards the our Lord Jesus Christ and the God-father.
From 2000 years, the God-father had opened us the sky's gateway through the his Son - the our Lord Jesus Christ. He is "the door", He is "the shepherd". He call us from here, but shepherd beyond. Here, in the earthly part of the heavenly Empire had remained Satan as beater, which from 2000 years attempt us, work us let discover us the God's science.
The God's way is for all men, and on a single way it can not go than together. Today, the man of science neglect the Scriptures and the priest and the vicar through the them urge at passivity, that we will be ravished in sky it arrive at the blocking the human society. Is not need od ravishement, because, the our spirits go daily in sky, when we sleep, and identically we go in sky after the death of the our body of flesh.
Great is the God's work which created the Israel-nation as middle of work, embody on the his Son in the Israel-nation and give us the Gospel, after which spread the Israel-nation among the all nations, as let preach the Christianity. Mean that the general evangelism will close the circle the God's work, and the our terrestrial world will enter aware in the immense heavenly Empire.
And Thora, and the Koran and the Gospel call at God, but Thora is the book of beginning to the God's work about to man; the Koran is the book of intermedium and explanation; and the Gospel is the peace's book(Acts 10:36), is the eternity's book(Revelation 14:6), is the grace's book to God(Acts 20:24), is the bright book which call at God with devoutness and gentleness on all the Earth's inhabitants, of any nation and of any tongue.
In Sura 20:112 it show: "And We sended as such the Arabic Koran and had mixed up in he threatenings, as let be they with the fear of God and Mohammed let renew the them remembrance." And in Sura 3:58-61 it show: "O, you which have Scripture, why you quarrel about to Abraham? Just was not sended Thora and Gospel than after the them time. You know not this?..Abraham was not - neither Judaean, neither Christian, but he was right believer, a musulman, and was not votary"..
So to fided God with way, for that the life let be a continuously a fight for faith and for the heavenly Empire. So it show and in Matthew 11:12-13: "The skies' Empire it take with invasion(daring), and those who give invasion set the hand on her." The our Lord Jesus Christ reunite the terrestrial world under the shield the same God alive and decree the preach the heavenly Gospel in all world, at any creature, the all nations as let serve of testomony beginning from Jerusalem
Today, setting the Israel aside and the Arabians of the other part, we must let mention and descendants to Esau, the twin brother of the Jacob; they born from Rebecca, wife of the Isaac. And at these brothers, God prophecy in Genesis 25:23: "Two nations are in the your womb. And two people it will separate at the emergence from the your womb, one will be more hard than the other one and the great(Esau) will serve the more small(Jacob)".
If the spirits from God are embodied in we- the terrestrial men and we exist and function only through the them assistance - result that we the men can exist not without they. It attempt and it develop the heavenly creatures embodied on Earth, but in the same time it follow and the development the human society with an apparently liberty; but with a permanet supervision, in order that the existence the those two worlds: heavenly(unseen) and terrestrial(seen) let unfold normal
The Bible together with the Koran are books of science –complementary- because they express a social technology for unfolding in progressive boundaries of the man's life as person and as society, a procedure of work and control for the terrestrial seen world and for heavenly unseen world; worlds which are joined one with another through an indissoluble connection, which can not be unbinded or interrupted!
The death's act is a simple passing from a shape of life at another. The man himself lose not the his personality, remain with the same judjement, with the same feelings, qualities and flaws, with the same intellectual and moral luggage. After awakening in the spacial world remain at the same evolutionary degree. Those what die arrive in space, and those what is born come from upperpart. The terrestrial world from today will form the spacial world of tomorrow.
Through reembodiment we must let take different shapes: masculine or feminine, let live in different social levels and in the bosom the different nations of the Earth. We the spirits work when upperpart, when down as people, at the transformation the social life of the humanity of this Earth. When you and others are down, we will guide you. When we will descend in body then you will guide us, being then free spirits in space.
The reembodiment is the spirit's act of dress in centuries' course, one after other, new bodies.This phenomenon has place in all the universe, in the whole nature, not only in the human kingdom.The rembodiment is the passing some aware and undying creature in another physical body adequat the them evolutionary stage. The embodiment's purpose is the education. but the spirit's promotion it make not through addition a something new, but set in value the spirit's propensities.
The RE-EMBODIMENT and the UNEMBODIMENT.The reembodiment or reincarnation is the return's phenomenon of human spirit from heavenly spaces in physical world, in a new human body.The reembodiment is known from very far-off times and today, this idea it stretch over all Earth being finded natural, because explain many problems: social, religious, philosophical, scientific unsettled till today.The little child is little only with the body of flesh and it know not what spirit is in he
The child's body can resemble with the his parents and it can transmit hereditary certain physical features from parents, but are not hereditary the spiritual features. the parents had made a body- the foetus and the spirit which it embody is foreign, is another creation of the Father, arrived through these parents in the bodily world for the achievement the his destiny.
In the our life's time, the body it remake of many times at intervals of 7 years. The cerebral matter it renew but the thinking persist and together with the memory keep the remembrances from chilhood. This prove the presence in us to one invisible force, which persist in the middle physical transformations. At the finish of the terrestrial life, when it decompose this physical matter, remain only the undying spirit.
The bodily man is formed from the man of spirit and moreover the chemical body(the body of flesh) and the his ethereal double. Viz, each bodily man has in he and a man of spirit= a spacial man! The soul is formed from fine matter in eternity the same, it exchenge not, only the his faculties, his features becomes more and more extended. The Creator has the spherical shape and created the man all with the spherical shape for space and with the bodily shape of man on Earth.
The spirit is a divine seed.The Creator had set in he, his world's system, in the same time, the Creator had inscribed in spirit all programme on which will have him for unfolded in world.The spirits is created after certain rules. Before of to create it, the Creator establish the future, the destiny, the law, and only thus send it in one from universes.The SOUL is asmall sphere of 2...3 cm on which is disposed concentric the divine layers: willpower, memory and intelligence.
In an american hospital, was measured the weight at 1500 people in the them death's moment, was observed at all people the substraction them weight with value between 15...30 grams.All in the death's time at photograph above the head, the film noted at each a globular whitish formation of approximately 10 cm in diameter. Therefore what had emerged from the man's body had an weight and a shape. From viewpoint of the weight 15...30 grams, the spirit is as a flake.
this is honestly very sad to see, religion may have caused specific people to commit horrible acts but Christianity is the reason Europe even prevailed thru the fall of Rome till the enlightment, Oppression has happened but it wasnt religious beliefs that caused it was people blindly following other men
southkid1992 1 day ago
Funny how the reporter claims europe ows its science and culture to religion, when religion has been working against science at every oppurtunity it gets.
escapeartist80 1 week ago
@escapeartist80
not surprised !!
americans !!
they believe what they talk and they talk talk ....
it's an american jesus !!
jesus without any sensibility any reserve !!
in brief a child <..
152Tarn 5 days ago
After two millenia of cursades and an inquisition, civil wars/revolutions/nationalism/imperialism with every country, two world wars and a near third, terrorism, scapegoating, and genocide(s); Europe should seattle down for once.
helljumpr5150 1 week ago
B.DD.ARCITENENS.ES
ARCANVS1 2 weeks ago
this is good. religion is stupid anyway, we dont need medieval fairy tales. at the current rate of atheism in America, it will come US in a couple of generations, and that will be great.
ofosusam 1 month ago
I'm very sure Christianity will continue to be strong in places like Poland and Greece for a very long time
BayAreaOrBust 1 month ago
@BayAreaOrBust because of economic problems. the mosr religios people in america are the poor and the super rich. connect the dots.
ofosusam 1 month ago
@Poleabroad No they didnt!!!...arab muslims spent almost a thousand years in spain.Infact you they did NOT rape and they did NOT kill the spanish people.Infact native spainard muslims,spainard christans,arab muslims,arab berbers,and jews lived in peace.Study history loser,it was your own people who raped and killed the muslims in spain.Muslims brought lightness to europe,when europe was in the dark ages.
Arabchick21 2 months ago
@Arabchick21 But what they did do, is introduce a 'Jizya tax', a tax that made non-Muslims pay more tax,showing the inequality that Muslims brought to Spain. When the Crusades conquests of the 'Levant' formed Christian states, Muslims and Jews were equal and paid no difference to Christians. They were granted open worship. where as in Spain only Household worship was allowed.
KiLLeRgoD1011 1 month ago
@Arabchick21 The Almohads in Spain persecuted Jews and Christians,forcing most of the 'minority' population at that time to emigrate to Northern Christian Kingdoms as they feared death and 'forced' conversion. Showing the religious segregation that they faced then and are facing today. Assassinations of religious figure of minority groups, a country such as Saudi Arabia, where as Western Countries give 'freedom of religion Constitution.
KiLLeRgoD1011 1 month ago
Science??LOL!!...science came to europe when muslims conquered spain and some other parts of europe.
Arabchick21 2 months ago
Looks like a perfect opportunity for the rebirth of Stoicism!
quote3000 2 months ago
It's not like Christianity came from Europe.
mymarkis666 2 months ago
@mymarkis666
it came to america from europe :P
when colombus arrived the natives had their own religions(according to their own countries)
the spaniards imposed christiantiy, mostly by brutal use of force
sabin97 2 months ago
@sabin97 And it came to Europe from the Middle East, was my point.
mymarkis666 2 months ago
@mymarkis666
yeah, i was being a smartass, sorry
but you gotta admit that it was way too tempting not to take it!
sabin97 2 months ago
@sabin97 Lol.
mymarkis666 2 months ago
People in Europe are finally beginning to think for themselfs, god and faith was a good explanation for the world 2000 years when we knew absolutely nothing about science. It is simple god was made up by people who needed an explanation about how they got here. But we now know this to be simply false!
TheJohndunne777 2 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph Well, I´m glad you´re not disrespecting paganism. I´m not trying to disrespect Christianity either, but also want it known that things people THINK happened, only got inserted MUCH later. Like, MOST of the stories of the saints, Constantine, and Julian. And those "results" again can be claimed by ANY religion. Look at Islam! And paganism too when people once believed in the words of the oracle at Delphi. So...don¨t assume it´s JUST Christianity. Faith in general does that.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph Yes, it is hard to prove. Then again, he mostly became Catholic because of his wife. Gregory of Tours claimed that it was because of his victory at the Battle of Tolbiac. So again, sometimes people insert things into the legned AFTER the fact and that doesn´t necessarily mean that´s exactly what happened. People think the pagan Emperor Julian said "You win, Galileean" and he DIDN´T! That was only included in a play MUCH later.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph As for "true religion"...even THAT'S not true. The same could be said for Islam (look how quickly THAT grew and it's already giving Christianity a run for it's money) or Buddhism or any oTHER major religion. And look at the scam religions like the wacko guy that made 100 people commit suicide. So...one can be devout but don't lose your head. In the end, WE decide. The word "worship" once meant to make worthy. We have to decide if something is worth worshipping.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph That's good that at least you agree there was persecution from Christians too, but as for early Christianity...it was a mystery religion that "appealed" to people with a mixture of promise of everlasting life but also fear of damnation and hellfire. I mean...if all I had to do to get into heaven was believe in some guy and he'd forgive any sin I commit...most people would be there too. Only now many more people understand the hypocrisy.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
for the people who convert to islam if u want to know what is the is relgoin watch this !
type in THE YOUTUBE SEARCH Khalil's life changed after seeing Jesus in a vision (P1)
HeatBeat31 3 months ago
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HeatBeat31 3 months ago
Europe should remain christian in culture i.e it should preserve it in culture similarily to how the Greeks learn about Zeus, because its part of culture. However, believing in that religion is not neccessary
GodOfUnbelief 3 months ago
@GodOfUnbelief If it's to preserve any type of culture or identity to go with religion, it should be cultural paganism then. Not monothestic religions that BOTH have a history of stifling and oppression.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
Europe. It believes in both nothing and everything... a somewhat confused continent.
Christianity is growing again in Canada and I consider my country to be a relatively liberal place. It has to do with actively involved churches and parishes, serving the community. In Europe, Christianity seems to be more of an identity thing which is NOT what christianity is about; it's about acting as a Christian and living the gospel.
Wake up Europe!
Sincerely,
A Concerned Canadian
teahouse100 3 months ago
@teahouse100 hahaha thanks to Bollywood stars.... Indian Christians makes 100% of Canada's Christians. They are runnibg away from Indian Hindus... hahahaha Thank you Russell Peters
Fernandez30301 3 months ago
@teahouse100 I know Orthodox Christianity is increasing in the west, inculding Canada
BayAreaOrBust 1 month ago
@BayAreaOrBust because of immigration, not because canadians have are more convinced to send more money to pat robertson after his daily lunch meetings with jesus
ofosusam 1 month ago
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@BayAreaOrBust because of immigration, not because canadians are more convinced to send money to pat robertson so they can get the scoop on hi lunch meetings with jesus
ofosusam 1 month ago
@teahouse100 lol growing in Canada! that's a laugh. My school is Catholic and 65% of them are atheist/agnostic. I sure hope not. Keep religion out of Canada!
stefanoGFsiciliano 3 days ago
Not quite sure about a Europe without Christianity at all. I mean why only Christianity. Why not a Europe without Islam or other religions. Why particularly Christianity?
Christianity thrived in the darkest hours of her beginnings with the 3 centuries of Roman persecution and yet the numbers of Christians grew. I do not think Christianity will ever leave Europe. In fact I see a future for Christ.
ConstantineJoseph 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph Umm..you forget that Christianity itself was ALSO a persecuted people and kept Europe in the Dark Ages for CENTURIES! Don't just blame Rome who actually tolerated many different religions...until they gave them a reason to mistrust them by their vandalism and revolutionary talk (about a king and savior). I see the seeds of their old pagan past growing back and I hope it does. THAT'S their true identity after all, not some prophet from Israel.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ThePaganSun
No doubt about persecution from Christians. However, through the writings and documentation of early Christianity, our faith was so strong, even extermination could not stop the faith from spreading. Moreover, it is not as if Europe was preached the gospel by people of faith. The witnesses of the Christ himself came to Greece and Rome after Jesus rose from the dead. I can tell you, it isn't about who's right or who's wrong. Its about the true religion that draws men.
ConstantineJoseph 3 months ago
@ThePaganSun
Europe in fact did have a chance of going without Christianity after the fall of "Christian" western Roman Empire. The Germanic tribes, were paeanistic and held their values. However, as history records, King Clovis I of the Franks was fighting the battle of Tolbiac. At that battle, he abandoned paganism and embraced Jesus to help the Franks. That was one of the biggest decisions that would change Europe.
Christianity gets results, much more over pagans.
ConstantineJoseph 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph Hehe. No, Christianity was a bit cleverer and more devious than Pagans with their rumors of "visions." Many scholars now seriously doubt most of the stories of the saints and say they were later inventions and even your Constantine's "conversion" they say never took place or was done without his consent. No, Christianity just knew that people responded to miracles. It helped their morale to think that they had "visions." It's the placebo effect to the extreme.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph Don't think it was so easy to separate nations from their ancestral gods! Lithuania was one of the last countries to be Christianized and the majority of their population didn't convert until as late as the 17th century! And even now many more people are converting to other religions or becoming atheists. And if mere numbers meant anything, I guess that means in a few years Islam will get results much faster than Christianity. So people are fickle is all that means.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ThePaganSun
It is again hard to prove whether one has a vision or not, but a matter of personal faith. Neither does the best scholar know what a man thinks within himself. People are generally devout to their religion unless a major occurrence happens in their life which causes them to reflect and find a solution.
A good example is the pagan King Clovis I of the Franks. He abandoned paganism at the battle of Tolbiac (he was losing) and when he embraced Jesus, he won.
ConstantineJoseph 3 months ago
@ThePaganSun
I am not disrespecting Paganism in any means and I am for the notion that God gives men the free will to choose and that is the highest form of love to an individual, to give freedom to others, not to imprison them to any idea.
But time and time again, Christianity has produced results, despite many failings, all due to the sin and imperfection in our natural self. When one truly stops observing soaps at a soap factory and starts using it, one will find the soap can clean.
ConstantineJoseph 3 months ago
good, its about time. Yes We Can! Youth Against Chrsit!
helvet666 4 months ago
who gives a shit..???....I don't need an amerikan 'hustler', telling me anything..thank U...now fuck off...hahaHa
MrJoncando 4 months ago
Wow. They sure interviewed some idiotic religious nutbags in this video!
nyscholartist 4 months ago
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@mattetho cant you recognize between personal view n official facts? didnt you realize that is my personal view? does my view disgust you? we respect atheist n why didn't they respect our faith n beliefs... your comments show that youre a rude person that doesnt give a damned respect for others thoughts...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
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ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
For those saying how "Europe deserves what it gets for accepting Islam and not Christianity" need to wake the hell up and stop being hypocritical! Or that Europe somehow "owes Christianity!" Some people never read their history books! When Christianity took over Europe it was the Dark Ages! The church forbade any thoughts against their own! Witch hunts, heresies, plague, and famine! If Islam is now following in Christianity's footsteps maybe people will finally learn secularism is best after all
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
all religious should just shut up
Bayzz2 4 months ago 2
good
Bayzz2 4 months ago
@mattetho And where, pray tell?! In some speech the Pope gave?! In your deluded mind?! It's a HISTORICAL FACT that Christianity drove Europe to the DARK AGES! And I DARE you to name a history book that proves me wrong! And YOU'RE not name calling, right Mr. "I-Turn-the-Other-Cheek-But-Not-Really!" Stop listening to your stupid priests and READ the damn books for once, then you won't sound like u eat Fox's words for dinner! Heh, if CHRISTIANITY didn't manage to kill Europe, be sure ISLAM won't!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
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ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho And YOU need to stop being so damn hypocritical! You wanna be free to build YOUR churches and uphold YOUR god's laws WITH the government's full backing, right? So again, if you allow for one, you have to allow for them ALL! What the hell's so special about Christianity?! You DARE claim Europe somehow owes it, but when IT ruled, it was Europe's WORST moment! Maybe you're right. Maybe if Islam takes over Europe is doomed. But it'll only be following Christianity's footsteps, won't it?!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
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@mattetho SO WHAT?! Look at all the churches YOU PEOPLE HAVE BUILT sometimes right next to each other! And again, they're allowing for CERTAIN provisions of sharia law. I'm not happy about that. But if they're allowing for JEWISH COURTS and CLEARLY making allowances for CHRISTIAN laws then why shouldn't they be fair?! I DID LOOK IT UP ASSHOLE! STOP READING FOX'S VERSION AND LOOK IT UP IN AN ACTUAL ARTICLE! Heh, the US is dying too! Killed by Christian fanatics that "wanna rape the earth."
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho I DID research on it and guess what it's mostly about? What it mostly always IS about? MONEY! Sharia courts are cheaper and according to an article I read, not the only type of religious court upheld in Britain. Jewish Beth DIn courts have been operating too! So again the problem with ALL RELIGIONS is if you allow for one, you have to allow for them ALL! Plus, the ArchBishop of Canterbury said "CERTAIN provisions of sharia law" are upheld not all of it! How about you shut up now idiot?
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho No YOU'RE the fool and you keep proving it. Stop saying, "do historical research" when it's clear you never cracked the books open in your life, hypocrite! But dumbass Christians ALWAYS believe what the funny white man in the Vatican says, right u ass?! Ha, you Christians molesters already killed off quite a few pagans your damn selves so maybe I WILL laugh as the Muslims kill YOU! Can you say, "Cosmic karma," dick?! And again, if Christianity couldn't last forever, Islam won't either!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho No, it's not irrelevant because if they got there illegally, they can have all the kids they want but that doesn't mean they'll be ABLE to erect mosques or force their doctrine into laws. And I've seen MANY children per European couple, many with three or four kids as little as a year or two apart so again...where's this info coming from and what circumstances was this census taken under? And hey if it ever DOES become Islamic then so? It won't last forever. Christianity didn't!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago 2
@mattetho Ha again! No, because unlike you who believes everything the church (cuz THEY never lied before, right?) and Fox tell me, I research it and don't give in to mindless paranoia! Yeah, right. Whatever! And look where the US is heading with their dumbass Tea Party and moronic Republican government that claim "it's ok if we rape the earth and waste all the resources since Jesus is coming is coming anyway", right?! Again, practice what you preach you dumb hypocrite and face the damn facts!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho If you "hit a nerve," it's my outrage at your stupidity! YOU do the research! Like I said, just because Fox News and the Church tells you things, doesn't make it true. EVERY history book will tell you that Christianity brought Europe nothing but ignorance, oppression, and death! And those "examples" you listed were again taken from ancient sources! Thus, Christianity has done NOTHING but WORSENED Europe. HA! And YOU deserve the oppression the US is heading under extreme Christianity!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho And FYI, Europe can always have a quota for immigrants coming in from the Middle East just like the US does with Mexicans. Thing is the US takes advantage of its illegal immigrants and THAT'S why it's hard to stop it there, but it's hard to work in Europe if you're not in the Union and don't have a visa. If all the Europeans gather together and vote for the right people, they'll be fine. And I've seen MANY babies and strollers there so it's a LIE that they're not re-populating!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago 2
@ThePaganSun nah... european too lazy for that...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Just like Americans, I guess. Letting the stupid Bible-thumping right-wing run the government and then complaining about it when they give tax breaks to the rich and take away the benefits of teachers and then DARE to wonder why we're so far behind China! If Europe goes down, so does the US bc the euro's already stronger and where China HONORS their teachers, we overwork them, take away their benefits, and make them deal with troubled kids as if they were therapists!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun you just show the true nature of european... european is just the same with or without religions...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Very true. It is. France will always make good food and wine, Spain will always have siestas and bull fights, Italy will always cook with pasta, etc. Why should their way of life change because of religion? It didn't die in the Dark Ages with Christianity so even if Islam over-runs it, it won't last forever! Then, Europe will change again or change back. But somehow I can't see the US without its precious Bible in THEIR laws which is why I left and don't regret it.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho Wow. Hospitals and universities were all around in ANCIENT times, fool! In fact, ancient Greece, Rome, China, and the Middle East ALL had schools of learning and places for medicine. So again...PAGANISM! The "freedom to live"?!?! Right because THAT was proven with the Dark Ages, the Inquisition and branding people like Darwin, Galileo, and Newton heretics?! Jeez, I'm so glad Europe IS moving away from Christianity if THAT'S the kind of warped history you learned. The gods help you!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago 2
@mattetho YOU'RE the idiot and do your OWN damn research, fool! NO IT DOESN"T! What the hell kind of history books have you been reading! Like I said, it gave Europe HUNDREDS of YEARS worth of OPPRESSION, FAMINE, PLAGUE, WITCH HUNTS,TORTURE AND DEATH! Ha! I can't see Europe EVER being Islamic! But of course dubasses like you believe everything the church and the TV tells them, right? And FYI, fool, my wish is for Europe to go back to PAGANISM! What it REALLY owes everything to!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago 2
let just leave europe sleep with their atheist beliefs while at the same time islam shoving down every europeans throat...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
if european have no desire for christian then abolished it... declared it illegal... shut down every church in every single country in europe... i bet there will be no objection from european themselves... let just other continent embrace christianity...
ImperialEarthEmpire 5 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire And again, if you're so into the whole "take it or leave it" thing then why don't we go right ahead and abolish ALL religion! If you make allowances for one, you have to for ALL! I really "love" how everyone's saying that Europe will be obliterated by Islam when they forget how it was when CHRISTIANITY ran the place! Witch hunts, the Inquisition, Black Death, heresies! We'd still believe the earth was flat! So again, Islam's following in YOUR precious religion's footsteps!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago 2
@ThePaganSun to abolish all religions that is impossible... religions are part of human nature they even create new religions to embrace it n that include atheist... im specifically talking bout christian if christian brings disaster to europeans then abolish it... christian in europe currently in a good condition to be abolished... there will be no objection...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire If it was ever possible to abolish Christianity than it would be possible to abolish all religions. And I think you don't quite understand Europeans then. Although they're more sane and more secular than Americans, there are some that are religious too so don't assume that there would be "no objection" to abolishing Christianity. And that wouldn't solve anything bc it's the extremism that's the problem. If religion can stay out of laws and politics, then it wouldn't be bad.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun you proved my point... there is nothing wrong with christian, people is the real problem here... it is always the people that makes things bad...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire That's true. Christianity in and of itself, is not bad. But that's true for ALL religions and atheism! So why do you have a problem with Islam but not Christianity?! If it's true that people make Christianity bad, then the same goes for Islam! And it bothers me that people make EXCUSES for Christianity! And what I don't like about Christianity more than other religions is their hypocrisy. But of course I've only said that a million times. Hopefully, it'll sink in for them.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun thats why human personally need religions... whether its abrahamic religions, natives faith or new movement... the true nature of religions is to guide people to do good in their life... but unfortunately the people take religions so seriously... i myself a religious but i will not let religions corrupt my scientific thinking...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire No, I don't think people NEED religion. It's very sad if you NEED something to tell you how to live your life and how to be a better person. We have brains, why can't we figure it out for ourselves? I just think that they're so rooted in tradition and people's mentalities now that maybe they THINK they need it. But they don't. I love my gods and I'll always honor them, but they don't DEFINE me. Their most important lesson is try helping yourself first. They'll help after.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun thats not kind of religions im talking about... believe in god is a religion, believe in atheism is a religion, believe in communism is a religion, believe in yourself is a religion... to me religion just another word for faith, philosophy and ideology... thats why im saying mankind need religions, they need something to believe in...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Yeah atheism is the exact OPPOSITE of a religion and they'd get very mad if you told them that. That's like saying Christians really worship Ba'al. Atheism says that no god exists. That's not a religion at all so don't call it that. Communism is governmental and political SYSTEM NOT a religion. A religion is a belief in a sort of deity. Those are NOT "religions." Theories, systems, and other types of beliefs are not religions. I still don't agree. They THINK they need it.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun im aware of the official meaning of religion but my personal definition of religions is better to be define the way that i mentioned before... those ideology is not a big deal, my big point here is mankind need something to believe in... the core principal of religion is 'believe' and not just god and 'believe' has its place in every stage of life, thats why im saying atheist is a religion... n again that is my personal view...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Yes, but your personal definition of religion is wrong. Beliefs and religions are different. Like cats and lions. All lions are cats, but not all cats are lions. All religions are beliefs but not all beliefs are religions. Atheism ISN'T a religion. I get its your opinion. But I still think that they THINK they need something to believe in. Why do we need a BOOK to tell us what's right and wrong? That basically means that people trust an ancient book more than themselves.
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@ThePaganSun the first principle in religion before accepting god is 'believe'... so an atheist in term is actually a religious person because the first thing they did is 'believe' that there is no god...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun i have stated my view... enlightenment me with your view... what is atheism and what is religion?
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Atheism is the assertion that there's no god, while religion is the belief that there are gods or is a god. Since the gods of the religions are based on beliefs and can't be proven, atheism is the assertion of that therefore there are no gods. The difference is that atheism isn't quite a "belief" because their views is based on scientific fact and logic which dictate that there are no gods since they can't be seen.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun what about confucianism n taoism?
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Those are considered religions because they have deities although they like Buddhism can be seen as a philosophy or way of life too since not all sects of these Asian religions have deities. And since I don't know their respective origins (if they originated with deities or not) so i can't say 100%. But they have deities now so I consider them religions. But those I'd understand if someone else doesn't.
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ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun why everybody have problem with islam because the level of hypocrisy in islam is unimaginable...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire That's where you're very wrong. Islam's problem is their extremism and their clinging to old traditional laws that no longer work today. The media and some extreme Muslims are deafening out the more moderate ones. But at least they're NOT hypocritical. If you enter Iran or Iraq, that's YOUR problem. You should know what you're getting yourself into. Christianity on the other hand condemns Islam when there are MANY extreme Christians too! Hypocrisy is Christianity's problem!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun moderate muslim are hypocritical just as those of christians... and even worse...
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ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire No, moderate Muslims are moderate. Again, no, they're not. Extreme and even moderate Christianity is 100 x worse as far as hypocrisy goes. When Muslims are extreme, they show it and admit to it. When they're moderate, they do everything they can to disassociate themselves form the extremists. Christians on the other hand condemn extreme islam but turn a blind eye to those who cry Jesus while bombing abortion clinics! That's the DEFINITION of extremism! Christians are worse!
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@ThePaganSun it seem you hate christian so much... im have nothing more to say... im not a european but i personally humble that european did not forget their christian heritage even d christian brought the dark ages n other horror to europe...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire I said I don't hate Christians. But if I do why is THAT wrong, but YOU can hate Muslims?! Because that's what I see in your comments and a couple others here too! And like I said, THAT'S what keeps pissing me off! I hate the hypocrisy! You just proved it to me by accusing me of hating your religion when you clearly hate Islam! Answer truthfully. Is that not hypocritical to you? Again, you don't mourn that Christianity brought Europe the Dark Ages so don't when Islam does!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun i dont hate islam n there is nothing worng with islam either... i just hate their hypocrisy n their extremism... just like you hate hypocrisy in christian... my intention is to express that christianity are europes identity n should not be forgotten from history...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Ok then, maybe we're alike. But I still don't understand how you can make out hypocrisy in Islam. I get that some of them are extreme but hypocritical? How? And explain why you think they're "more hypocritical than Christians" when in my experience it's clearly the other way around. And why then when Christians ARE just as extreme and hypocritical, do you think their history should be saved? Should Islam's history be saved if it ever becomes the dominant religion?
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun i live under islamic goverment...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
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ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Haha! Sorry. Didn't mean to laugh. I see. Well...I'm sorry then. I guess we both hate more that which hits home. I DO agree that Europe should remain as it is and the Muslims should either assimilate or go back to their more traditional lands. But I lived under Christian hypocrisy in the US and saw it everyday! Those whackjobs that scream "Jesus loves you!" while telling you that you're going to hell unless you repent and convert! I wouldn't wanna live in EITHER society!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun Hahaha... LOL Yes Jesus love us more than he does with todays Christians because they make him God? Jesus loves us because we love him as prophet of God not God!. The Christians make for him idol! statue!
Fernandez30301 3 months ago
@Fernandez30301 Yes, I'm a pagan so no human for me should be valued above any other and not even the gods for that matter. We're all pieces of the same universe that constantly changes. I don't get why so many people are so quick to be so subservient to someone they can't even see. I love and honor my gods, but my choices are MY choices, not theirs.
ThePaganSun 3 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire And let me rephrase, PERSONAL Christianity like all personal religions is not bad, but it should NEVER play a part in politics or laws just like some people don't want Islam to play a part in their politics or laws. Secularism is best. Religion should be personal. If it tries to play a part in laws, then it IS bad. Very bad.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@mattetho Wow. People don't learn, do they? THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD WAS BETTER OFF WITHOUT CHRISTIANITY! Name ONE freaking thing, Christianity did for Europe (that wasn't taken or inspired by paganism)! I DARE YOU! Name one!
ThePaganSun 5 months ago 3
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ThePaganSun 5 months ago
@mattetho HAHAHA! "Europe owes everything to Christianity" is the most RETARDED thing I've ever heard. No, idiot, Europe owes everything to PAGANISM! PAGANS were the first to realize the earth was round and that it revolved around the sun! PAGANS inspired the best in Classical art and then again during the Renassaince! It inspired nationalism and culture! Christianity brought plague, the Dark Ages, and the Inquisition! Christianity did NOTHING for Europe! If it goes back, then the gods help you!
ThePaganSun 5 months ago 3
@mattetho No he stated in his manifesto that he WAS doing "God's work" and that he WAS a Christian, got it? It was on the freaking NEWS! Cuz athesits are killing in science's name, right? Yeah and calling yourself a Muslim doesn't mean you are. And seriously dudes, stop. If you believe in Christ, you're a Christian and if you believe the tenants of Islam, you're a Muslim. Stop making excuses! This especially goes for you Christian hypocrites! No Jesus was a revolutionist! Educate YOURSELF fool!
ThePaganSun 5 months ago 3
christianity is the second pillar of european cultural identity, the first being the classical heritage... if europeans leave out christianity, they may as well leave out their classical heritage... then what would europe be without an history...
ImperialEarthEmpire 5 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Christianity already DID reform! MULTIPLE times I might add! That's what inspired the Protestant movement! And look where that lead! Look at the Christian terrorism in Ireland and N. Ireland! People need to RE-LEARN their history and realize that Christianity did NOTHING for Europe or ANYONE! If anything, PAGANISM is their ancient heritage and what they owe everything to! Paganism actually inspired philosophy! NOT Christianity! So stop with the "Europe owes it" bullshit!
ThePaganSun 5 months ago 3
@ThePaganSun and you must know the nature of early christian then...
ImperialEarthEmpire 5 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire I do! It's proven by research and history! And why should it be abolished though (though I certainly wouldn't complain if it was), but that take it or leave it mentality is what makes religions like yours so dangerous! Plus, the early Christians not only persecuted pagans and Jews but also but also their OWN and branded them heretics! Many of the early Christian philosophy no longer survives except for maybe the Gnostics. So again, please explain wtf was so great about it!
ThePaganSun 4 months ago 2
@ThePaganSun if you hate christian so much you should create a movements to free europe from any trace of christianity... remove christianity from european culture n history... banned all religions n put atheism under constitution... many european will support this movement...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire Dude. It's not that I "hate" Christians and I'm sorry if it came across that way. It's that I REALLY hate their hypocrisy in not admitting that they can be as bad extreme Islam which they can! And I also hate when people claim that Europe somehow "owes" Christianity when if it "owes" something to anything it should be paganism since almost all of Western civilization was based off ancient Greece or Rome. Have all personal religion u want, but laws should be secular.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
@ThePaganSun but secular law itself based on the bible...
ImperialEarthEmpire 4 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire No, it's not. Again, SOME secular laws especially in America might be based on Christian beliefs, but if they were BIBLICAL, they'd be almost identical to the fundamental Islamic laws you and everyone here seems to hate so much. So yet again, you are all missing my point which is that if the Bible was followed to the T like the extreme Muslims follow the Koran, they'd be almost identical. And most secular laws are again based on PAGAN beliefs. Hammurabi's code was the first.
ThePaganSun 4 months ago
christian should not be forgotten... it should be reformed...
ImperialEarthEmpire 5 months ago
@ImperialEarthEmpire For what? It is holding us back! Stem research, prohibition, human rights! You can't reform that which is said to be the final "word." Then what you follow is merely a PHILOSOPHY not a god nor a religion. That makes no sense!
MircelousGrimm 5 months ago
@MircelousGrimm philosophy of christian then...
ImperialEarthEmpire 5 months ago
@mattetho Europe owns everything to beards. All the philosophers had beards; the artists, beards... Religion is an artefact of the past, the moment we knew enough, that lightning isn't God's, religion plummeted. There is no "tree of knowledge", there is no "son of god", there is no hell or heaven; yeah fine some Christians did nice things, well hoo-fucking-ra, so what? Progress will be here long after Christ is forgotten. Europe won't become Islamic, Islam is too retarded to take over anything.
badblueman 5 months ago
@badblueman I am glad your kind will be extinct soon. I think you are retarded and evil minded. You are totally blind of what is coming for you. Islam will not only grow in Europe and take over it will grow all over the world. Do not mix Islam with race/ethnic group retard.
SMLIPRT 5 months ago
@SMLIPRT Talking about retards...where exactly did you see me mix Islam with race/ethnic groups?
What can I call you SMLIPRT, captain hypocrite, Cpt. irony? I don't mind people telling me what I had coming, that I was an asshole here, naive there, ignorant over there...but calling me evil minded (why? The fuck?); did I kill somebody? Did I entice murder, torture? No I did not. In fact I expressed the polar opposite of evil. So fuck you right there sir. Take your islamoparanoia and shove it.
badblueman 5 months ago
mattetho Tell that to Giordano Bruno.... Europe owns everything to thought, philosophy, science...not retarded religions.
badblueman 5 months ago
Wasn't it a Christian who just shot a bunch of kids in Norway?
leegeorgeson 6 months ago 4
@leegeorgeson Yup! If it were a Muslim that's ALL people would be talking about, but because it was a Christian, they gloss over it for a day and go back to "crisis in the Middle East!" I'm not a big fan of extreme Islam (especially since I'm a girl), but I hate the Christian HYPOCRISY even more! At least the Muslims stick to their guns! These extreme Christians do the EXACT same thing but believe that because they shout out Jesus instead of Allah that somehow makes it better. Hypocrites! : /
ThePaganSun 6 months ago 5
@leegeorgeson Yes, it was! These stupid Christian hypocrites are just making excuses! It was stated on the news and in his manifesto that he was a Christian! Atheists don't go persecuting religions, OTHER religions do! Atheists just wanna be able to not have to teach the "world is 6,000 years old and was made in a day" theory. Stupid religious fanatics need to grow the hell up!
ThePaganSun 5 months ago 2
Good fucking riddance. Christianity like Islam is EVIL.
leegeorgeson 6 months ago 2
@leegeorgeson Exactly! At least you put them on the same level!
ThePaganSun 6 months ago 4
@ThePaganSun Any religious person who is good (and they do exist) is good in SPITE of their faith. But Faith is dangerous... :)
leegeorgeson 6 months ago 9
@leegeorgeson Very true! I'm pagan myself (obviously) so I don't mind at all if someone is religious whatever their faith, BUT the REAL problem happens when people want to turn what SHOULD be a personal belief into FACT and make the state VALIDATE that belief! Religion should NEVER play a part in law or politics! It should always stay personal! And even then in the words of Lord Apollo it should be practiced, "Always in moderation!" ;)
ThePaganSun 6 months ago 3
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And yet, we can see, we can visualize the ethereal matter and the spiritual matter.
We can see, we can visualize the spiritual matter, the ethereal and spiritual world and the immense heavenly Empire. The scheme to one device for to visualize the ethereal matter: EXIST! And this device it can realize!
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Is unavoidable a planetary union, but she must let be an union with relations of reciprocal collaboration. Each nation must let come with the her part of honesty and of activity for to it arrive not at a planetary hotpotch. Anibody will lead and at any level, must let will have a common target for all people, as making part from the God's work about the man!
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The evangelism is the single way and method educational-social through which it arrive at a human integrated society at international level, without the arms' force and without, machinations' force. The general evangelism impose the international organization of the human society as organization: religious, social and economical.
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In Planetary organization:Why Jesus Christ? Because on Jesus Christ -Thora announce him,and Koran extol him and give priority in this world and in the world of afterwards. In Sura 3:37-41 angels said:"O, Mary, God chosen to you and cleaned you and elected among the world's womans. O, Mary, God himself announce you the Word what come from God, his name will be Messiah Jesus, the Mary's Son. Grandly will be He in world from now and in world of afterwards and will be near to God"
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• SandustanBrasov Of course, this is the FAITH's BUSINESS between God and Hebrews, business through which the Hebrews,at the spreading among nations they had as charge themselves let demonstrate the them faith face of the alive God and let unfold in the them life the same activities on which they learned from God in those 2000 years of growth of the Israel nation.
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And in the blessings from Deuteronomy 28:1; 9 and 13 it show:"If you will listen the Lord's voice the your God, guarding and fulfiling the his commands on which give to you today, the Lord, the your God will give to you PRIORITY about the all nations from Earth...You will be for the Lord a holy nation...if you will guard the commands and will go on the his ways, the Lord will make to you let be HEAD and not tail, always will be upper part, and nevermore beloww.."
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In Sura 45:15-16 God and the his archangels show:"And We had given the Israel's sons the Scripture and wisdom, and the prophecy, and had endowed them with goods, and had SELECTED THEM IN FRONT of the world. And We had given them clear signs for - the FAITH's BUSINESS,"
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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All the terrestrial religions are only different parts of the religion impose by heavenly creatures The Christianity can not let appear without Moses's religion(Mosaism) The islamism can not appear if was not necessary a refreshing of the Christianity and bringing at God to the Abraham's descendants,which it draw from Ishmael and Esau.The Orthodoxism and the Catholicism appeared not if the Christianity was united. but all was so because all was only some stages in the God's work
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We as humanity, must let will be contented that the God made us after the "his manner", but which mean very much. Mean as we the men - the mankind - let us touch in a very short time, the divine standard! The God judge us in comparison with the his qualities, and not with others.
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Satan is the dragon the great and ancient which through the deception and cunning of the political, economical and financial speculation make happy on those littles and ruin on those many. With those littles Satan load the hell, and on those many hunt them - without as they let know - towards the narrow gateway of the sky: towards the our Lord Jesus Christ and the God-father.
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From 2000 years, the God-father had opened us the sky's gateway through the his Son - the our Lord Jesus Christ. He is "the door", He is "the shepherd". He call us from here, but shepherd beyond. Here, in the earthly part of the heavenly Empire had remained Satan as beater, which from 2000 years attempt us, work us let discover us the God's science.
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The God's way is for all men, and on a single way it can not go than together. Today, the man of science neglect the Scriptures and the priest and the vicar through the them urge at passivity, that we will be ravished in sky it arrive at the blocking the human society. Is not need od ravishement, because, the our spirits go daily in sky, when we sleep, and identically we go in sky after the death of the our body of flesh.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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Great is the God's work which created the Israel-nation as middle of work, embody on the his Son in the Israel-nation and give us the Gospel, after which spread the Israel-nation among the all nations, as let preach the Christianity. Mean that the general evangelism will close the circle the God's work, and the our terrestrial world will enter aware in the immense heavenly Empire.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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And Thora, and the Koran and the Gospel call at God, but Thora is the book of beginning to the God's work about to man; the Koran is the book of intermedium and explanation; and the Gospel is the peace's book(Acts 10:36), is the eternity's book(Revelation 14:6), is the grace's book to God(Acts 20:24), is the bright book which call at God with devoutness and gentleness on all the Earth's inhabitants, of any nation and of any tongue.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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In Sura 20:112 it show: "And We sended as such the Arabic Koran and had mixed up in he threatenings, as let be they with the fear of God and Mohammed let renew the them remembrance." And in Sura 3:58-61 it show: "O, you which have Scripture, why you quarrel about to Abraham? Just was not sended Thora and Gospel than after the them time. You know not this?..Abraham was not - neither Judaean, neither Christian, but he was right believer, a musulman, and was not votary"..
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So to fided God with way, for that the life let be a continuously a fight for faith and for the heavenly Empire. So it show and in Matthew 11:12-13: "The skies' Empire it take with invasion(daring), and those who give invasion set the hand on her." The our Lord Jesus Christ reunite the terrestrial world under the shield the same God alive and decree the preach the heavenly Gospel in all world, at any creature, the all nations as let serve of testomony beginning from Jerusalem
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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Today, setting the Israel aside and the Arabians of the other part, we must let mention and descendants to Esau, the twin brother of the Jacob; they born from Rebecca, wife of the Isaac. And at these brothers, God prophecy in Genesis 25:23: "Two nations are in the your womb. And two people it will separate at the emergence from the your womb, one will be more hard than the other one and the great(Esau) will serve the more small(Jacob)".
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If the spirits from God are embodied in we- the terrestrial men and we exist and function only through the them assistance - result that we the men can exist not without they. It attempt and it develop the heavenly creatures embodied on Earth, but in the same time it follow and the development the human society with an apparently liberty; but with a permanet supervision, in order that the existence the those two worlds: heavenly(unseen) and terrestrial(seen) let unfold normal
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The Bible together with the Koran are books of science –complementary- because they express a social technology for unfolding in progressive boundaries of the man's life as person and as society, a procedure of work and control for the terrestrial seen world and for heavenly unseen world; worlds which are joined one with another through an indissoluble connection, which can not be unbinded or interrupted!
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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The death's act is a simple passing from a shape of life at another. The man himself lose not the his personality, remain with the same judjement, with the same feelings, qualities and flaws, with the same intellectual and moral luggage. After awakening in the spacial world remain at the same evolutionary degree. Those what die arrive in space, and those what is born come from upperpart. The terrestrial world from today will form the spacial world of tomorrow.
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Through reembodiment we must let take different shapes: masculine or feminine, let live in different social levels and in the bosom the different nations of the Earth. We the spirits work when upperpart, when down as people, at the transformation the social life of the humanity of this Earth. When you and others are down, we will guide you. When we will descend in body then you will guide us, being then free spirits in space.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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The reembodiment is the spirit's act of dress in centuries' course, one after other, new bodies.This phenomenon has place in all the universe, in the whole nature, not only in the human kingdom.The rembodiment is the passing some aware and undying creature in another physical body adequat the them evolutionary stage. The embodiment's purpose is the education. but the spirit's promotion it make not through addition a something new, but set in value the spirit's propensities.
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The RE-EMBODIMENT and the UNEMBODIMENT.The reembodiment or reincarnation is the return's phenomenon of human spirit from heavenly spaces in physical world, in a new human body.The reembodiment is known from very far-off times and today, this idea it stretch over all Earth being finded natural, because explain many problems: social, religious, philosophical, scientific unsettled till today.The little child is little only with the body of flesh and it know not what spirit is in he
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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The child's body can resemble with the his parents and it can transmit hereditary certain physical features from parents, but are not hereditary the spiritual features. the parents had made a body- the foetus and the spirit which it embody is foreign, is another creation of the Father, arrived through these parents in the bodily world for the achievement the his destiny.
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In the our life's time, the body it remake of many times at intervals of 7 years. The cerebral matter it renew but the thinking persist and together with the memory keep the remembrances from chilhood. This prove the presence in us to one invisible force, which persist in the middle physical transformations. At the finish of the terrestrial life, when it decompose this physical matter, remain only the undying spirit.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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The bodily man is formed from the man of spirit and moreover the chemical body(the body of flesh) and the his ethereal double. Viz, each bodily man has in he and a man of spirit= a spacial man! The soul is formed from fine matter in eternity the same, it exchenge not, only the his faculties, his features becomes more and more extended. The Creator has the spherical shape and created the man all with the spherical shape for space and with the bodily shape of man on Earth.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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The spirit is a divine seed.The Creator had set in he, his world's system, in the same time, the Creator had inscribed in spirit all programme on which will have him for unfolded in world.The spirits is created after certain rules. Before of to create it, the Creator establish the future, the destiny, the law, and only thus send it in one from universes.The SOUL is asmall sphere of 2...3 cm on which is disposed concentric the divine layers: willpower, memory and intelligence.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago
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In an american hospital, was measured the weight at 1500 people in the them death's moment, was observed at all people the substraction them weight with value between 15...30 grams.All in the death's time at photograph above the head, the film noted at each a globular whitish formation of approximately 10 cm in diameter. Therefore what had emerged from the man's body had an weight and a shape. From viewpoint of the weight 15...30 grams, the spirit is as a flake.
sandustanBrasov 6 months ago