In Holland, if you see a car parked in the street, which nobody is driving, is it okay to smash the window, hotwire it, and take it for a drive? After all, nobody is using it?
@bladder1010 Exactly. Just like Robin Hood. He was just stealing. No matter what story he told himself. And the woman who stole a bread from a supermarket trash bin to feed her child also can not fool us with her stories! STEALING IS STEALING!
@Weetjegeweten Robinhood was a fairy tale. None of these people are starving or trying to feed a child. These are able-bodied young people, perfectly capable of making an HONEST living -- but they're too LAZY. So, instead they STEAL. And your broken society accepts it as "normal". Enjoy it while it lasts -- soon you'll be forced to worship Allah, or else.
@bladder1010 These people are NOT stealing, apparently you don't understand the context, which is that project-developpers buy up all the buildings to let them stay empty in a country where people are homeless. The buildings slowly crumble until they're ruined. Then the project-developpers sell them to big corporations to tear them down, and build big new fancy glass architecture banks and stuff like that. The owning companies have STOLEN the buildings from THE PEOPLE.
@Weetjegeweten And you are the victim of your worker ethos. Working class hero! Don't try to enslave other people into your prison with your propaganda morality! PS I'll never worship any religion, even now that I'm basically forced to worship money, the queen, my country, celebrities, etc.
@Weetjegeweten I'm a "victim"? How? I live in a house which I BOUGHT with MY money. I don't go around forcing other people to provide me with housing, at their expense. In your confused mind, the fact THAT I DON'T VICTIMIZE OTHER PEOPLE makes me a "victim"?
You're the one who's enslaving others, by forcing them to provide what you consume, with no compensation in return. You are a parasite.
@Weetjegeweten I don't get your crazy logic. First you acknowledge that a developer BUYS the building -- then, by the end of your comment, you claim they've STOLEN the building? So, in your mind BUY = STEAL? Huh?!
And how did the developer "steal" the building from "the people"? They never owned it in th first place! If they want to live there so badly, why don't THEY buy it, instead? No, much easier to force someone else to pay for it for them.
In America, when you break into someone else's property. It is a crime. Go ahead and "register a squat with the police" if you like. This is madness. Who owns these apartments?
@swilson3d chill out man. I for example own a 5 store building that I never use and that is inhabited by squaters for like 12 years and still counting.
ok I'm trying to understand. you broke into an abandoned apt? ok becuz u have furniture in it u get to live in it? do u have to pay some sort of rent later? Do u get lights and water turned on? I don't understand. please explain. Thanks. :-)
@LadyShyye If a place is empty for a X amount of time (depends on the city) homeless people can go in and stay their for a wile. ofc when the owner wants to use the building agen they will have to move. (and they have to keep it clean etc or the police might get inviolded for vandalism since its not their place)
@briangunn21 Squatters aren't criminals. They just force doors of houses where nobody lives, houses cost too much for ppl to live in and pay the rent, in Holland there is a problem with living places being way too expensive. Squatting is a form of protest against the government not being able to solve this problem. Better ppl who show the problem then nobody showing it or solving it.
@briangunn21 it is a matter of understanding from one human to another, to not observe this understanding is an embarrassment to the human race in my opinion.
The idea behind all this is that if people live on the street .. and there are houses / offices that stand empty for years on end .. it gives the citizen the 'right' to claim it for as long as the owner of the house is not using it for a different purpose. Call it socialism ... but it would take a democrat to understand .. republicans don't.
Texas, there are four statutes of limitation.Each statute's requirements are different. There are 3year, 5year, 10year, and 25year statues.These statutes don't include any periods where the owner was legally disabled. If the squatter is claiming land that is not enclosed the acreage received won't be more than 160acres.If the land is enclosed, the squatter may receive all enclosed land peaceably possessed.If the squatter has a registered deed the deed's specifications hold after 10years.
USA Squatting, also known as adverse possession, is when a person acquires another's land without having to pay the owner. The squatter's "possession must have been inconsistent with and hostile to the rights of the true owner." Texas law states the squatter must actually use the property consistently and visibly for a period of time without the owner trying to remove the squatter. The squatter must claim a right to the property. Joint use or a belief of ownership is not a qualifier.
@Watchdawg Well actually NO ONE owns the planet. We just happen to have no other choice but to live here. I was born in the US and love it! No one ever really owns land or property when the government gets involved being they can simple tell you tough shit and they are taking it back to put a road thru your backyard. So next time you open your mouth Watchbitch you need to realize you dont own your country either and if your in the UK your country just like the US is in the shithouse!
@rdwafer75 I live in Sweden. I have never said that someone owns the planet. We have no other choice but to live here, you're absolutely right. What we can change though, is the way we run the planet. There's no need for you to insult me.
@davedudeit Legal Sense huh Ok The only True owner pf anything is the person that has the power to claim, keep and defend what they want to posses. If you can't do all 3 then you own nothing because someone else can easily take it from you and then you have nothing. If your religious then God owns all and he allows us all to squat on his planet he created.
@davedudeit Your just that think huh! I will spell it out for you. If you have the power to keep it then its yours to claim, if you can't then someone else can take it from you. Welcome to Government 101. Enough said have a nice day!
@swis961 No then that's Theft! But you do realize that at any government worldwide at anytime they choose can take that money back from you or declare it worthless and void. Ofcourse it will cause a revolution of sorts but Money and property are different things. Money is issued by the government and property is only tangible while it exists. Maybe before you speak you need to look into history. ei Romans, Khans, ect. All expanded their kingdoms by force and kept it by force.
@davedudeit you paid money for the land, then you must pay taxes for life, even if you paid off your house you must pay some type of tax, and if you don't pay tax they throw you off your own property. you never own land.
lovely, going into other peoples' property. imagine one day you guys would actually own anything one day and people just took your stuff away. not so great anymore, the whole concept, i guess?
@amyyyamy If they just sit there empty then I see no logical reason not to bash the doors in and open it up to people who don't have any place to live. Property here property there, we're talking people here, you know humans.
@Watchdawg these people definitely could have places to live just don't want to spend money on them. these apaermtnets are other peoples' properties. if those guys ever make it and actually OWN something, i guess they'd be less than excited if others took it from them. because that would be ... oh right, stealing.
also providing free housing may seem like a nice gesture, but think about the long term effects. will that motivate people who REALLY dont have housing to get on their feet again?
@amyyyamy It motivated them enough to go and look for a place to live, if that's not motivation then I don't know what motivation is. Anyway, sure, I agree that it's not practical by todays standards. But, if we lived in a sane society then everyone should have to right to a home, food, clothing and education. We could provide everyone on the planet with these necessities TODAY if we weren't hindered by a corrupt, self contradicting system. Very holistic view, I know. Peace!
@Watchdawg that's the thing with most of the ideas from the political left. Taking over other peoples' property is not " look for a place to live," it's stealing.
Nice idea in theory that everyone would be entitled to free everything, just tell me who would pay for that. And no, rich people do not have to pay for that because they worked their way up there. Even if they didn't, they just inherited everything, someone worked for it one day.
@amyyyamy Money is just a method of motivation, it has nothing to do with our true capabilities. Rich people have worked their way up in this system but when things start changing they will be forced into changing just as normal worker have to adapt to the evolution of technology. A lot of people have worked hard without achieving anything so I think it's pretty safe to say that it's pure random from a realistic point of view.
Even in America, there ARE squatter's rights...but normally they hinge around you occupying AND IMPROVING a property that appears otherwise-abandoned for a LONG period of time, normally 1-year or more. This is why bank repossessions are 'patrolled' by security guards/checks in most cities on a roaming 2-3 month basis. Otherwise, any moron could break in while you are at the store and 'occupy' your house while you are out...and call it theirs. Sorry, that's called the Ruger-doctrine.
@MountainDweller67 Actually here in Texas its a 7 year period and there is a whole community that was founded by squatters around 50 years ago. Its odd but true!
I am sure dutch law has a comment about breaking a lock to get into a structure to put your bed, chair and whatever in it to show you are living in it. In america where I live it is a second degree burglary if you caused damage to get in, 1st degree trespass if you do not cause damage.
If someone is standing in the building when you do this and they kill the shit out of you it is covered in my part of america as the castle doctrine. You are just dead......
I am sure that breaking a lock to get into a dutch house to put your stuff in, is pretty darn illegal since a bit over a year or so. Source: I'm Dutch. :P
@wxnpew not really, think of it like this, without inhabitants these houses are without a purpose and just giant decaying piles of garbage. so following the same line as found cloths or food or well...anything really, its better that someone puts a purpose to it. especially when there are plenty of people who could really use a home. Also following this logic, property owners who let buildings stand vacant for years should be viewed as litterers and punished for it
The difference that you can't compare food/cloth with a house. Its the owners right to do whatever they want to do with it. I agree that there should be some form of punishment for it (demand a monthly payment from the owner to the city after vacancy after a year; increase that with X each year, for example to discourage it. Just because I grow an appletree and decide not to pluck the apples, doesn't give anyone else the right to get in my garden and pluck without asking.
Most squatters in the Netherlands aren't homeless, theyre people that want to live in a city but can't get a place to live due to long waitinglists. Most squatters are students or have jobs... So if theyre homeless, it's by choice. Not their house, not their right to break in.
registering the squat with the police? shiiiiiiiiiiiiet that dont happen in london they just hassle you when they get bored. fuck the police, squat the world.
Abandoned propeties and places no one cares about .... fine ok do what you will. But when a business or company owns it and is trying to sell the property.... well for fuck sake this is their job and how they make a living so GTFO!!!!! FIND A JOB AND GROW UP!!!!
@Christos1680 - why don't you grow up, quit using jesus name cause he hates your kind, and have an economy with some real grown up jobs in it, instead of the little kiddie fucktard fantasy world jobs your ridiculous blue-chip etc unsustainable economy runs to. jobs that real people can do. not jobs for evil slackers that like to take millions to sit and do fuckall of worth, that requires no intellect to do, and that design everything wrongly.
In the cases of poverty and abandoned property, this is however not to say it happens only in extremely rundown properties. Upper class mansions and homes that get abandoned very frequently attract squatters who at some point had a legitimate connection with the property in a manner that beats the initial trespass charges. For example, employees of a wealthy family that lost the house on foreclosure might squat on the property until new owners come along and either evict or retain them.
Some jurisdictions in the US allow this quasi-legally, but only in cases of extreme poverty and abandoned property. Doing this at an otherwise occupied commercially viable apartment building would bring the police in a much less civilized mood. A lot of the fights between Native Americans and European immigrants were over squatting on designated Indian land after treaties had been signed between the Indians and the government, so squatting in much of the US has its roots in conflict.
@mooseoftoose Actually this world ís like a huge commune. Wether you like it or not, we have to live together. What you do affects me and what I do affects you. You are free to have your own opinion, I just hope you don't really wish for others to be shot. Love.
These people are nothing but freeloaders who expect something for free without working hard. I hope they get shot. This world is not one huge fucking commune.
I find it often funny that middle class folks are mostly offended by this squatting thing... They see people below them as scum... meanwhile, the masters they work for... the big corporations, oftentimes do their own squatting and taking of land --whether legal or illegal --sometimes made legal by the greasing of money to the right public officials to look the other way... There seems to be no anger at wealthy squatters because they are seen as above the law.
@tubofbologna it's only breaking & entering when the police see you doing it, it trespassing when there isn't a lock in the door & you're inside, but as soon as you put your own lock on it, install a table, a bed & a chair, you have the right of domestic peace & the police cannot enter without your permission..
or at least that used to be the rules when this vid. was made..
@AshyMishyMashy they can ask, but the police will probably tell them they've got better things to do, if the owner didn't leave it empty it wouldn't have happened in the 1st place. (needs to be empty for 1yr to 'legally' squat it) lot's of owners leave houses empty to drive up the price.
only other way is through court, which is expensive & the owner has to proof he's got approved plans for the building
@EuroNoobz im guessing this was never legal in america... i've heard of people squatting before, but i've never heard of that being legal here... i can't believe it ever WAS legal. "if the owner hadn't left it empty it wouldn't have happened in the first place". that sounds like such an illogical justification. it's like the people who steal things out of other people's cars and then say "well you shouldn't have left it in your car in the first place and it wouldn't have gotten stolen.".
@AshyMishyMashy these rules were made in the 60's, when everyone was a hippy & there was a huge shortage on housing. but owners left them empty tho get a higher renting price..
it's kind of like the occupy movement, but on housing :P
Must be why Amsterdam is such a model country for legalized marijuana. All the jobless pot heads don't wander the streets, they just break into apartments and say it's squatting, so everything is fine. Utter non-sense.
@erickthegreat98 Well, I don't understand where is the proud part of putting Indians in Indian reservations and kicking them off from their land. People should have respect for themselves and not leech off others. Maybe I'll watch some western movie and figure that out :D
I don't know... I do know that I don't put "Indians" in reservations. Actually, Indians have taken my reservations. I'm assuming your point is to shame very American (not including Native decendants and immigrants (I would also be included since my ancestors came over from Europe and into the Midwest well after "Indians" had moved on)) for living on what were once Native American lands. Nonsense. Nearly every country on the planet has been conquered and reconquered.
@erickthegreat98 You don't know very much about the world do you !? Are you a Yank ? I bet you are . I can explane this squatting phenomenon to you but i doubt you'll understand .
@DonSilicone It's you that don't understand. Is it fair for someone to move in next to me and pay no rent, but I have to pay hundreds? Where's the justice in that? I hear people talk about money being evil, but what is money? Money is trade. These people are getting something for nothing in return on their part. If you can't understand that, then you don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot with instructions written under the heel.
@erickthegreat98 I got your point the first time . And my point was that i could explain to you that there is more to it then your black or white/ right or wrong view on this . But thanks for proving my point ..., you wouldn't understand . That's a problem a lot of Americans seem to have ..., a very narrow view on the world .
@DonSilicone So, making a stereotype out of "yanks" is somehow indicative of an enlightened state of mind of world view? Telling me I "wouldn't understand" is somehow your reason? Give it your best shot on explaining "squatting". I'm certain I'm not the only American viewing this, so do all of us a favor by broadening our narrow little minds.
@erickthegreat98 I can explain it to you but i won't simply because it's a long story . The reason i said that i thought you wouldn't understand is because it seemed that you were not prepared to see past your view of leeching of other people . It has nothing to do with that . If you are open to the fact that these people actually might have a reason for doing this then why wouldn't you be able to understand .....
@erickthegreat98 Like i said . I'm not going to spell it all out here ..., but in very simple terms ; it's a form of protest . Has something to do with housing shortage , houses being empty, and high rent prices . Keep in mind that the Netherlands is tiny compared to the US . That comes with it's own problems . And the reason i started with the yank bullshit is because you started with the stupid stereotypical pot smoking crap . You started like one of those Americans .
I stand corrected. You're right, I didn't know about the housing shortage and high prices. The owners would be wise to get partial rent over nothing at all.
Something that may not be known outside the United States, is that "squatters" here is more associated with people that break into vacated (mostly those set to be torn down because of fire or decay) houses/buildings to deal drugs (mostly crack, meth, and heroin) and as a place use them.
@erickthegreat98 Not a problem at all . Only thing that worries me is that it seems to fit in the view people have of us that we would be fine with something like that ."honey ., there are people braking into the house nextdoor" . "ahh ., who cares ..., pass me that joint will you...." ;)
@DonSilicone Hey I'm an american and can I tell you something?
I'm near 30 years old, don't have a driver's license, don't have a bank account, haven't had a job in as long as I can remember, and I don't have a single active credit account
I know that 9/11 was an inside job
I know there is a big world out there besides America
I don't just sit around and glorify pop stars and watch slutty girls get drunk and fight and cheer for warmongering politicians and hate muslims
@CMLaneLV I know i know ..!! Sorry if i have offended you . The reason i said that was for the purpose of the coversation so to speak . He started off in a particular way .., and i guessed he was the kind of guy to take offence to that (and i was right) .., so kick where it hurts . But it worked out fine in the end . Well you can read it yourself ... Funny how you can get in an argument with someone only to find out you may actually have a lot more in common then you thought .
Actualy you didn't offend me. I could tell what you meant, plus I do believe that stereotypes apply sometimes.
I was more just trying to tell you that when you talk to us directly, we talk mostly like you and I are now. What's portrayed in the media is one of the many acts of war (in this case the ministry of propaganda) being waged against us, and for that it is a flase depiction.
And for the record, even though I'd said earlier I don't have a license, job, bank account
@erickthegreat98 Sir I can explain this very well. Lands, estates, if owner is deceased with no heir or successor, it is wrong for the government to resell this property to the highest bidder so that they can profit from it. These estates should be given FREELY to those who have no land starting from the elderly to the youngest. It's not hurting anyone if the landowner is already deceased. It's just the Government can't profit from this since they already collect alot in taxes.
@EasternMerchant Yeah, that'd be a good idea. I'm not sure how that would work though. I wonder how it would be determined who gets which dwelling... Reminds me of the ridiculous death tax and inheritance tax we have in the US. When someone dies here (without a will or heirs), I believe there is an "estate" auction. I'm not sure where the proceeds go.
@DonSilicone What the.. It's not just us Americans only that have so called narrow minds. Tell me housing shortages and houses standing empty just don't add up, and even though America is so big we still have high rent and housing prices. The people that think if a person dies and does not leave it to anybody should just be given away then I feel sorry for you and the way you think. It happens everywhere, just because you dont want to work for what you get does not make it right.
@FREDEAN - so what giant gang members leave their Dam flats empty then? how much is it to rent one off them if they're empty then, i've wanted to live there since ever. only sane place i can get organic veggie food and buy ganj at.
As i would say "If you dont have a job, if you dont have any money, STAY ON THE FUCKING STREET, You dont go to work you dont live in an apartment that your own fucking fault. PAY YOUR FUCKING RENTS LIKE ANY OTHER NORMAL PERSON WOULD. if we find you in our houses. We fucking kick the shit out of you mindfucked delinquants. End of shitbags.
@Trinnaman0999 where i live this is legal also. I currently have an apartment that we pay the rent for but only because a family member is helping us. we are out of work and have found it impossible to find work for over 6 months now. soon the help we are getting will be gone as well. if we lose our apartment it is a small comfort that we may find a place to squat until we get our lives back in order. living on the streets would be a nightmare and you should not wish that on anyone.
In Holland, if you see a car parked in the street, which nobody is driving, is it okay to smash the window, hotwire it, and take it for a drive? After all, nobody is using it?
bladder1010 1 hour ago
No, they really are stealing, no matter what kind of fancy stories they tell themselves.
bladder1010 4 days ago 4
@bladder1010 Exactly. Just like Robin Hood. He was just stealing. No matter what story he told himself. And the woman who stole a bread from a supermarket trash bin to feed her child also can not fool us with her stories! STEALING IS STEALING!
Weetjegeweten 1 day ago
@Weetjegeweten Robinhood was a fairy tale. None of these people are starving or trying to feed a child. These are able-bodied young people, perfectly capable of making an HONEST living -- but they're too LAZY. So, instead they STEAL. And your broken society accepts it as "normal". Enjoy it while it lasts -- soon you'll be forced to worship Allah, or else.
bladder1010 23 hours ago
@bladder1010 These people are NOT stealing, apparently you don't understand the context, which is that project-developpers buy up all the buildings to let them stay empty in a country where people are homeless. The buildings slowly crumble until they're ruined. Then the project-developpers sell them to big corporations to tear them down, and build big new fancy glass architecture banks and stuff like that. The owning companies have STOLEN the buildings from THE PEOPLE.
Weetjegeweten 9 hours ago
@Weetjegeweten And you are the victim of your worker ethos. Working class hero! Don't try to enslave other people into your prison with your propaganda morality! PS I'll never worship any religion, even now that I'm basically forced to worship money, the queen, my country, celebrities, etc.
Weetjegeweten 9 hours ago
@Weetjegeweten I'm a "victim"? How? I live in a house which I BOUGHT with MY money. I don't go around forcing other people to provide me with housing, at their expense. In your confused mind, the fact THAT I DON'T VICTIMIZE OTHER PEOPLE makes me a "victim"?
You're the one who's enslaving others, by forcing them to provide what you consume, with no compensation in return. You are a parasite.
bladder1010 1 hour ago
@Weetjegeweten I don't get your crazy logic. First you acknowledge that a developer BUYS the building -- then, by the end of your comment, you claim they've STOLEN the building? So, in your mind BUY = STEAL? Huh?!
And how did the developer "steal" the building from "the people"? They never owned it in th first place! If they want to live there so badly, why don't THEY buy it, instead? No, much easier to force someone else to pay for it for them.
bladder1010 1 hour ago
@bladder1010 i agree with you
SuperAllen1966 1 day ago
i still dont get it whats squating anyway is it taking a shit on the side walk or what
ArtworkbyMosier 4 days ago
So its legal to break in somewhere and then register that as my home? No... I think the politzi would come down and crack my skull.
rizendell 1 week ago
In America, when you break into someone else's property. It is a crime. Go ahead and "register a squat with the police" if you like. This is madness. Who owns these apartments?
swilson3d 1 week ago
@swilson3d chill out man. I for example own a 5 store building that I never use and that is inhabited by squaters for like 12 years and still counting.
robertlagogi 1 week ago
ok I'm trying to understand. you broke into an abandoned apt? ok becuz u have furniture in it u get to live in it? do u have to pay some sort of rent later? Do u get lights and water turned on? I don't understand. please explain. Thanks. :-)
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@LadyShyye If a place is empty for a X amount of time (depends on the city) homeless people can go in and stay their for a wile. ofc when the owner wants to use the building agen they will have to move. (and they have to keep it clean etc or the police might get inviolded for vandalism since its not their place)
CannabisDelux 2 weeks ago
@LadyShyye that brings in to question who gave your local council the power to demand money from you (in the form of council tax)?
davedudeit 2 weeks ago
1:50 most beautifull squatter ever!
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yup7861 3 weeks ago
Parasites.
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lol in romania it same hahaha
Dileea1 3 weeks ago
lol in romania it same hahaha
Dileea1 3 weeks ago
I dont understand squatting. You give rights to criminals?
briangunn21 1 month ago
@briangunn21 Squatters aren't criminals. They just force doors of houses where nobody lives, houses cost too much for ppl to live in and pay the rent, in Holland there is a problem with living places being way too expensive. Squatting is a form of protest against the government not being able to solve this problem. Better ppl who show the problem then nobody showing it or solving it.
wernerkonings 3 weeks ago
@briangunn21 it is a matter of understanding from one human to another, to not observe this understanding is an embarrassment to the human race in my opinion.
davedudeit 2 weeks ago
@briangunn21
The idea behind all this is that if people live on the street .. and there are houses / offices that stand empty for years on end .. it gives the citizen the 'right' to claim it for as long as the owner of the house is not using it for a different purpose. Call it socialism ... but it would take a democrat to understand .. republicans don't.
betadoctor 1 week ago
@briangunn21 It's called activism or civil disobedience in this case.
mcnowski 3 days ago
Texas, there are four statutes of limitation.Each statute's requirements are different. There are 3year, 5year, 10year, and 25year statues.These statutes don't include any periods where the owner was legally disabled. If the squatter is claiming land that is not enclosed the acreage received won't be more than 160acres.If the land is enclosed, the squatter may receive all enclosed land peaceably possessed.If the squatter has a registered deed the deed's specifications hold after 10years.
rdwafer75 1 month ago
USA Squatting, also known as adverse possession, is when a person acquires another's land without having to pay the owner. The squatter's "possession must have been inconsistent with and hostile to the rights of the true owner." Texas law states the squatter must actually use the property consistently and visibly for a period of time without the owner trying to remove the squatter. The squatter must claim a right to the property. Joint use or a belief of ownership is not a qualifier.
rdwafer75 1 month ago
@rdwafer75 "True owner" I lold. I hardly think the people who live in America are the "true owners" of their country.
Watchdawg 1 month ago
@Watchdawg Well actually NO ONE owns the planet. We just happen to have no other choice but to live here. I was born in the US and love it! No one ever really owns land or property when the government gets involved being they can simple tell you tough shit and they are taking it back to put a road thru your backyard. So next time you open your mouth Watchbitch you need to realize you dont own your country either and if your in the UK your country just like the US is in the shithouse!
rdwafer75 1 month ago
@rdwafer75 I live in Sweden. I have never said that someone owns the planet. We have no other choice but to live here, you're absolutely right. What we can change though, is the way we run the planet. There's no need for you to insult me.
Watchdawg 1 month ago
@rdwafer75 They dont just take it back. the government has to pay you fair market value for your property.
gokramer2 3 weeks ago
@rdwafer75 not true, persons and/or people and/or gods (in the legal sense) do own parts of earth in the legal sense.
davedudeit 2 weeks ago
@davedudeit Legal Sense huh Ok The only True owner pf anything is the person that has the power to claim, keep and defend what they want to posses. If you can't do all 3 then you own nothing because someone else can easily take it from you and then you have nothing. If your religious then God owns all and he allows us all to squat on his planet he created.
rdwafer75 2 weeks ago
@rdwafer75 thats correct but whats your point?
davedudeit 1 week ago
@davedudeit Your just that think huh! I will spell it out for you. If you have the power to keep it then its yours to claim, if you can't then someone else can take it from you. Welcome to Government 101. Enough said have a nice day!
rdwafer75 1 week ago
@rdwafer75 yesssss so whats your point weres your conflict, your just typing facts?
davedudeit 1 week ago
@davedudeit Its all I need! Without facts you have no case!
rdwafer75 53 seconds ago
@rdwafer75 That is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. If you had a fistfull of money and someone robs you of it that makes it theirs?
swis961 3 hours ago
@swis961 Well it might be in their possession but that doesn't mean it's rightfully theirs
swis961 3 hours ago
@swis961 No then that's Theft! But you do realize that at any government worldwide at anytime they choose can take that money back from you or declare it worthless and void. Ofcourse it will cause a revolution of sorts but Money and property are different things. Money is issued by the government and property is only tangible while it exists. Maybe before you speak you need to look into history. ei Romans, Khans, ect. All expanded their kingdoms by force and kept it by force.
rdwafer75 1 minute ago
@davedudeit you paid money for the land, then you must pay taxes for life, even if you paid off your house you must pay some type of tax, and if you don't pay tax they throw you off your own property. you never own land.
903harman 1 week ago
@903harman yes very correct when dealing with real estate.
davedudeit 1 week ago
lovely, going into other peoples' property. imagine one day you guys would actually own anything one day and people just took your stuff away. not so great anymore, the whole concept, i guess?
amyyyamy 1 month ago
@amyyyamy If they just sit there empty then I see no logical reason not to bash the doors in and open it up to people who don't have any place to live. Property here property there, we're talking people here, you know humans.
Watchdawg 1 month ago
@Watchdawg these people definitely could have places to live just don't want to spend money on them. these apaermtnets are other peoples' properties. if those guys ever make it and actually OWN something, i guess they'd be less than excited if others took it from them. because that would be ... oh right, stealing.
also providing free housing may seem like a nice gesture, but think about the long term effects. will that motivate people who REALLY dont have housing to get on their feet again?
amyyyamy 1 month ago
@amyyyamy ...yeah... didn't think so. it's too convenient. they have no motvation to work again.
amyyyamy 1 month ago
@amyyyamy It motivated them enough to go and look for a place to live, if that's not motivation then I don't know what motivation is. Anyway, sure, I agree that it's not practical by todays standards. But, if we lived in a sane society then everyone should have to right to a home, food, clothing and education. We could provide everyone on the planet with these necessities TODAY if we weren't hindered by a corrupt, self contradicting system. Very holistic view, I know. Peace!
Watchdawg 1 month ago
@Watchdawg that's the thing with most of the ideas from the political left. Taking over other peoples' property is not " look for a place to live," it's stealing.
Nice idea in theory that everyone would be entitled to free everything, just tell me who would pay for that. And no, rich people do not have to pay for that because they worked their way up there. Even if they didn't, they just inherited everything, someone worked for it one day.
And no, I'm not rich.
amyyyamy 1 month ago
@amyyyamy Money is just a method of motivation, it has nothing to do with our true capabilities. Rich people have worked their way up in this system but when things start changing they will be forced into changing just as normal worker have to adapt to the evolution of technology. A lot of people have worked hard without achieving anything so I think it's pretty safe to say that it's pure random from a realistic point of view.
Watchdawg 1 month ago
@Watchdawg Okay. Keep on dreaming.
amyyyamy 1 month ago
@amyyyamy Dreaming is what makes us humans special.
Watchdawg 1 month ago
Even in America, there ARE squatter's rights...but normally they hinge around you occupying AND IMPROVING a property that appears otherwise-abandoned for a LONG period of time, normally 1-year or more. This is why bank repossessions are 'patrolled' by security guards/checks in most cities on a roaming 2-3 month basis. Otherwise, any moron could break in while you are at the store and 'occupy' your house while you are out...and call it theirs. Sorry, that's called the Ruger-doctrine.
MountainDweller67 1 month ago
@MountainDweller67 Actually here in Texas its a 7 year period and there is a whole community that was founded by squatters around 50 years ago. Its odd but true!
rdwafer75 1 month ago
They have rights! yea, right ~ fuckin' losers ....
buddydog1956 1 month ago
I am sure dutch law has a comment about breaking a lock to get into a structure to put your bed, chair and whatever in it to show you are living in it. In america where I live it is a second degree burglary if you caused damage to get in, 1st degree trespass if you do not cause damage.
If someone is standing in the building when you do this and they kill the shit out of you it is covered in my part of america as the castle doctrine. You are just dead......
ferdonandebull 1 month ago
@ferdonandebull
I am sure that breaking a lock to get into a dutch house to put your stuff in, is pretty darn illegal since a bit over a year or so. Source: I'm Dutch. :P
Wekkerklok 1 month ago
but these houses don't belong to you,,pretty much like stealing,,just saying
wxnpew 1 month ago
@wxnpew not really, think of it like this, without inhabitants these houses are without a purpose and just giant decaying piles of garbage. so following the same line as found cloths or food or well...anything really, its better that someone puts a purpose to it. especially when there are plenty of people who could really use a home. Also following this logic, property owners who let buildings stand vacant for years should be viewed as litterers and punished for it
DrunkinPunkinBastard 1 month ago
@DrunkinPunkinBastard
The difference that you can't compare food/cloth with a house. Its the owners right to do whatever they want to do with it. I agree that there should be some form of punishment for it (demand a monthly payment from the owner to the city after vacancy after a year; increase that with X each year, for example to discourage it. Just because I grow an appletree and decide not to pluck the apples, doesn't give anyone else the right to get in my garden and pluck without asking.
Wekkerklok 1 month ago
@Wekkerklok Wow you just compared an apple tree with a homless human being. Way to go!
Watchdawg 1 month ago
@Watchdawg
Most squatters in the Netherlands aren't homeless, theyre people that want to live in a city but can't get a place to live due to long waitinglists. Most squatters are students or have jobs... So if theyre homeless, it's by choice. Not their house, not their right to break in.
Wekkerklok 1 month ago
registering the squat with the police? shiiiiiiiiiiiiet that dont happen in london they just hassle you when they get bored. fuck the police, squat the world.
cuntbaggins 1 month ago
So this is legal?
MrLivePositive8 1 month ago
right on! go squatters
zholyrebel 1 month ago
Looks like fun, as long as they don't cause trouble and make too much noise.
krum369 1 month ago
bunch of scumbags
Soundgarden8497 2 months ago
I need more than a roof over my head, I need to feel that I'm heading towards a goal, a contribution of some sort...
Jai666666666 2 months ago
These are vacant houses, you dumb-asses
Stillwell86 2 months ago
Try this shit in America..you'll get lit the fuck up!
Tstn53 2 months ago 36
@Tstn53 you can't squat anymore in holland right now, new laws and shit.
rexboy6 1 month ago
@Tstn53 yep, which is why your country is shit
FiveFingerRainRap 1 month ago
@FiveFingerRainRap location: GB....u don't even have rights lol
Tstn53 1 month ago
@Tstn53 that coming from an american is a laugh! You live in the most oppressed developed nation on the planet - oh lucky you!
FiveFingerRainRap 1 month ago
That is why I love America shit like this can never happen
ameendhe 1 week ago
@Tstn53 no joke
nartron3000 1 week ago
I would just let my gaurd dog go in the house and watch everyone run out.
Thomasfelix83 2 months ago
i'd love to see these people do this to my house. i hope they like lead.
DanJanOutdoors 2 months ago
I squatted in the Milkyway club for 3 days one time.
magprob 2 months ago
So they brake in and pretend its theirs? wow.. someone should beat som sense into these assholes
EliteDuffman 2 months ago
was no one arrested?
revolutionist14 2 months ago
hahah this is the gayest shit ever
trollosaurs 2 months ago
Abandoned propeties and places no one cares about .... fine ok do what you will. But when a business or company owns it and is trying to sell the property.... well for fuck sake this is their job and how they make a living so GTFO!!!!! FIND A JOB AND GROW UP!!!!
Christos1680 2 months ago
@Christos1680 - why don't you grow up, quit using jesus name cause he hates your kind, and have an economy with some real grown up jobs in it, instead of the little kiddie fucktard fantasy world jobs your ridiculous blue-chip etc unsustainable economy runs to. jobs that real people can do. not jobs for evil slackers that like to take millions to sit and do fuckall of worth, that requires no intellect to do, and that design everything wrongly.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
In the cases of poverty and abandoned property, this is however not to say it happens only in extremely rundown properties. Upper class mansions and homes that get abandoned very frequently attract squatters who at some point had a legitimate connection with the property in a manner that beats the initial trespass charges. For example, employees of a wealthy family that lost the house on foreclosure might squat on the property until new owners come along and either evict or retain them.
8digitPDX 2 months ago
Some jurisdictions in the US allow this quasi-legally, but only in cases of extreme poverty and abandoned property. Doing this at an otherwise occupied commercially viable apartment building would bring the police in a much less civilized mood. A lot of the fights between Native Americans and European immigrants were over squatting on designated Indian land after treaties had been signed between the Indians and the government, so squatting in much of the US has its roots in conflict.
8digitPDX 2 months ago
@mooseoftoose Actually this world ís like a huge commune. Wether you like it or not, we have to live together. What you do affects me and what I do affects you. You are free to have your own opinion, I just hope you don't really wish for others to be shot. Love.
flowersandlemons 2 months ago
These people are nothing but freeloaders who expect something for free without working hard. I hope they get shot. This world is not one huge fucking commune.
mooseoftoose 2 months ago
Wow this is very interesting. So U can take over someones property legally? In America you would be arrested.
cbarsonfire 3 months ago
how is this legal?! how can you just break into somewhere and move your stuff in and "register" it with the police...?
AshyMishyMashy 3 months ago
The lesson is... if you are one person squatting you are scum. If you are a giant corporation squatting huge tracts of land, you're ok.
MrRobertGulabo 3 months ago
I find it often funny that middle class folks are mostly offended by this squatting thing... They see people below them as scum... meanwhile, the masters they work for... the big corporations, oftentimes do their own squatting and taking of land --whether legal or illegal --sometimes made legal by the greasing of money to the right public officials to look the other way... There seems to be no anger at wealthy squatters because they are seen as above the law.
MrRobertGulabo 3 months ago
Having read there previous comments I think they are a little touched.
swis961 3 months ago
Why are they scumbags, its not against the law to do what they did, if they are told to leave thats all they have to do.
swis961 3 months ago
sucmbags.
pinhead1304 3 months ago
Scum..
carot2003 4 months ago
LOL is this serieus xD..
stomme politie hier..
patrick10001 4 months ago
breaking and entering...trespassing...vandalism, un sanitary living against health codes..no running water......
tubofbologna 4 months ago
@tubofbologna it's only breaking & entering when the police see you doing it, it trespassing when there isn't a lock in the door & you're inside, but as soon as you put your own lock on it, install a table, a bed & a chair, you have the right of domestic peace & the police cannot enter without your permission..
or at least that used to be the rules when this vid. was made..
EuroNoobz 3 months ago
@EuroNoobz well that building is owned by someone, isnt it...? can't the person who owns the building tell the police to remove those people?
AshyMishyMashy 3 months ago
@AshyMishyMashy they can ask, but the police will probably tell them they've got better things to do, if the owner didn't leave it empty it wouldn't have happened in the 1st place. (needs to be empty for 1yr to 'legally' squat it) lot's of owners leave houses empty to drive up the price.
only other way is through court, which is expensive & the owner has to proof he's got approved plans for the building
EuroNoobz 3 months ago
@EuroNoobz mind you, since this video was made the rules have changed, squatting is now illegal due to the lobbying of property owners.
however, most major cities have said the will not make the eviction of squatters a priority so it's still pretty much tolerated.
EuroNoobz 3 months ago
@EuroNoobz im guessing this was never legal in america... i've heard of people squatting before, but i've never heard of that being legal here... i can't believe it ever WAS legal. "if the owner hadn't left it empty it wouldn't have happened in the first place". that sounds like such an illogical justification. it's like the people who steal things out of other people's cars and then say "well you shouldn't have left it in your car in the first place and it wouldn't have gotten stolen.".
AshyMishyMashy 3 months ago
@AshyMishyMashy these rules were made in the 60's, when everyone was a hippy & there was a huge shortage on housing. but owners left them empty tho get a higher renting price..
it's kind of like the occupy movement, but on housing :P
EuroNoobz 3 months ago
Helemaal goed, het grote gebrek aan betaalbare woonruimte vraagt om dit soort initiatieven!
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jamestargetedindiv 7 months ago
If you did that in the US, you'd get arrested or beaten up by the cops.
diozent 7 months ago
I am proud of you guys. Keep on going!
gesztidaniel 10 months ago 9
Must be why Amsterdam is such a model country for legalized marijuana. All the jobless pot heads don't wander the streets, they just break into apartments and say it's squatting, so everything is fine. Utter non-sense.
erickthegreat98 10 months ago
@erickthegreat98 Amsterdam is not a country, it's a city. Not knowing that is "utter nonsense".
TMTKowalski 6 months ago
@TMTKowalski nice catch. However, why be proud of breaking into apartments? People should have respect for themselves and not leech off others.
erickthegreat98 6 months ago
@erickthegreat98 Well, I don't understand where is the proud part of putting Indians in Indian reservations and kicking them off from their land. People should have respect for themselves and not leech off others. Maybe I'll watch some western movie and figure that out :D
TMTKowalski 6 months ago
I don't know... I do know that I don't put "Indians" in reservations. Actually, Indians have taken my reservations. I'm assuming your point is to shame very American (not including Native decendants and immigrants (I would also be included since my ancestors came over from Europe and into the Midwest well after "Indians" had moved on)) for living on what were once Native American lands. Nonsense. Nearly every country on the planet has been conquered and reconquered.
erickthegreat98 6 months ago
@erickthegreat98 You don't know very much about the world do you !? Are you a Yank ? I bet you are . I can explane this squatting phenomenon to you but i doubt you'll understand .
DonSilicone 4 months ago
@DonSilicone It's you that don't understand. Is it fair for someone to move in next to me and pay no rent, but I have to pay hundreds? Where's the justice in that? I hear people talk about money being evil, but what is money? Money is trade. These people are getting something for nothing in return on their part. If you can't understand that, then you don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot with instructions written under the heel.
erickthegreat98 4 months ago
@erickthegreat98 I got your point the first time . And my point was that i could explain to you that there is more to it then your black or white/ right or wrong view on this . But thanks for proving my point ..., you wouldn't understand . That's a problem a lot of Americans seem to have ..., a very narrow view on the world .
DonSilicone 4 months ago
@DonSilicone So, making a stereotype out of "yanks" is somehow indicative of an enlightened state of mind of world view? Telling me I "wouldn't understand" is somehow your reason? Give it your best shot on explaining "squatting". I'm certain I'm not the only American viewing this, so do all of us a favor by broadening our narrow little minds.
erickthegreat98 4 months ago
@erickthegreat98 I can explain it to you but i won't simply because it's a long story . The reason i said that i thought you wouldn't understand is because it seemed that you were not prepared to see past your view of leeching of other people . It has nothing to do with that . If you are open to the fact that these people actually might have a reason for doing this then why wouldn't you be able to understand .....
DonSilicone 4 months ago
@erickthegreat98 Like i said . I'm not going to spell it all out here ..., but in very simple terms ; it's a form of protest . Has something to do with housing shortage , houses being empty, and high rent prices . Keep in mind that the Netherlands is tiny compared to the US . That comes with it's own problems . And the reason i started with the yank bullshit is because you started with the stupid stereotypical pot smoking crap . You started like one of those Americans .
DonSilicone 4 months ago
@DonSilicone My apologies for the insults.
I stand corrected. You're right, I didn't know about the housing shortage and high prices. The owners would be wise to get partial rent over nothing at all.
Something that may not be known outside the United States, is that "squatters" here is more associated with people that break into vacated (mostly those set to be torn down because of fire or decay) houses/buildings to deal drugs (mostly crack, meth, and heroin) and as a place use them.
erickthegreat98 4 months ago
@erickthegreat98 Not a problem at all . Only thing that worries me is that it seems to fit in the view people have of us that we would be fine with something like that ."honey ., there are people braking into the house nextdoor" . "ahh ., who cares ..., pass me that joint will you...." ;)
DonSilicone 4 months ago
@DonSilicone Hey I'm an american and can I tell you something?
I'm near 30 years old, don't have a driver's license, don't have a bank account, haven't had a job in as long as I can remember, and I don't have a single active credit account
I know that 9/11 was an inside job
I know there is a big world out there besides America
I don't just sit around and glorify pop stars and watch slutty girls get drunk and fight and cheer for warmongering politicians and hate muslims
We're not all "yanks"
CMLaneLV 4 months ago
@CMLaneLV I know i know ..!! Sorry if i have offended you . The reason i said that was for the purpose of the coversation so to speak . He started off in a particular way .., and i guessed he was the kind of guy to take offence to that (and i was right) .., so kick where it hurts . But it worked out fine in the end . Well you can read it yourself ... Funny how you can get in an argument with someone only to find out you may actually have a lot more in common then you thought .
DonSilicone 4 months ago
@DonSilicone Yes! ;)
Actualy you didn't offend me. I could tell what you meant, plus I do believe that stereotypes apply sometimes.
I was more just trying to tell you that when you talk to us directly, we talk mostly like you and I are now. What's portrayed in the media is one of the many acts of war (in this case the ministry of propaganda) being waged against us, and for that it is a flase depiction.
And for the record, even though I'd said earlier I don't have a license, job, bank account
CMLaneLV 4 months ago
@DonSilicone I've never felt more FREE!
Isn't it great
CMLaneLV 4 months ago
@erickthegreat98 Sir I can explain this very well. Lands, estates, if owner is deceased with no heir or successor, it is wrong for the government to resell this property to the highest bidder so that they can profit from it. These estates should be given FREELY to those who have no land starting from the elderly to the youngest. It's not hurting anyone if the landowner is already deceased. It's just the Government can't profit from this since they already collect alot in taxes.
EasternMerchant 4 months ago
@EasternMerchant Yeah, that'd be a good idea. I'm not sure how that would work though. I wonder how it would be determined who gets which dwelling... Reminds me of the ridiculous death tax and inheritance tax we have in the US. When someone dies here (without a will or heirs), I believe there is an "estate" auction. I'm not sure where the proceeds go.
erickthegreat98 4 months ago
@DonSilicone What the.. It's not just us Americans only that have so called narrow minds. Tell me housing shortages and houses standing empty just don't add up, and even though America is so big we still have high rent and housing prices. The people that think if a person dies and does not leave it to anybody should just be given away then I feel sorry for you and the way you think. It happens everywhere, just because you dont want to work for what you get does not make it right.
swis961 3 months ago
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@swis961 well .., good for you that you are also narrow minded ...
DonSilicone 3 months ago
@erickthegreat98 People say money is the root of evil. I do agree with you though
swis961 3 months ago
Can't wait till they squat the apartment of a giant gang member.
FREDEAN 1 year ago 16
@FREDEAN - so what giant gang members leave their Dam flats empty then? how much is it to rent one off them if they're empty then, i've wanted to live there since ever. only sane place i can get organic veggie food and buy ganj at.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@FREDEAN dude in new york some of my old comrades took over the crack houses and kicked out the drug dealers.
krispyrenee 2 months ago
Squatting is legal there?
blackyblackblack505 1 year ago
As i would say "If you dont have a job, if you dont have any money, STAY ON THE FUCKING STREET, You dont go to work you dont live in an apartment that your own fucking fault. PAY YOUR FUCKING RENTS LIKE ANY OTHER NORMAL PERSON WOULD. if we find you in our houses. We fucking kick the shit out of you mindfucked delinquants. End of shitbags.
Trinnaman0999 1 year ago
@Trinnaman0999 where i live this is legal also. I currently have an apartment that we pay the rent for but only because a family member is helping us. we are out of work and have found it impossible to find work for over 6 months now. soon the help we are getting will be gone as well. if we lose our apartment it is a small comfort that we may find a place to squat until we get our lives back in order. living on the streets would be a nightmare and you should not wish that on anyone.
Aprilshowersss 1 year ago
Good on ya guys! I've done this in Germany too for over three years back in the 90's :)
gusto68 2 years ago