I pray that we show the same grace and mercy that God bestows upon us, and also learn to separate the precious from the vile. Prove all things, and hold on to that which is good(1 Thessalonians 5:21). Blessed be the name of the Lord.
The thing that bothers me about this story, is it's like they think people shouldn't have bought his song, when in fact the song itself is still powerful and true, and would have blessed a lot of people.
@JyeSherwell The whole story being the song is full of fraud, deception and lies. So in all probability the song is a lie too. If Jesus was all this guy needed, why wasn't he healed [of his so-called porn addiction] why did he need to seek professional help? It seems that Jesus didn't heal him. Seems the song is a lie just like the whole dirty sordid god damn saga.
Principles over personalities.... just because this man has fallen from grace doesn't mean God's word isn't true.... God even says that we are not supposed to follow men but follow Him....men are fallible but God is infallible......
@schneevs67 So my question to you then is: this guy was in the ministry for two years while lying. Was he anointed by God during this time to be doing God's work?
@schneevs67 "men are fallible but god is infallible..."
Where did u hear about your god? Ans: from MEN
Therefore, if u were to be honest w/ yourself (christian seldom ever are) you'd admit that everything u heard about your god originated w/ another human being.
U may believe your faith is in god but your real faith is in MEN. MEN who told u what to believe w/o evidence & u believe because you're afraid that you will be denied everlasting life if you don't.
The first (previously missing) page from the new testament has been discovered, still clenched in the hand of an ancient man whose skeletal remains included a (petrified) thorny crown.
This page, originally in ancient Hebrew, once translated, reads:
"All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental."
jesus fucking christ you christards are morally bankrupt fools. This scumbag ripped people off & as a christard you attempted to put a positive spin on this.
@atrumira we are not allowed to pass comment. As christians we look to our leaders for guidance and give them 10% of what we earn. If a leader lies to us - then that is OK, because after all, we're all human.
@TENBolt "If a leader lies to us then that is OK becus after all we're all human"
WHAT??? You're attempting to trivialize LYING to 100s of 1000s of people about having TERMINAL CANCER so that u can sell CDs to help pay for your ADDICTION TO PORN.
There will have been people inc. the elderly who were suckered in by this scumbag & we shud just forgive & forget??
Sadly, the god u worship doesn't operate like this; fail to be convinced by a book of religious text & he'll TORTURE U FOREVER.
@jabezjabez92 "So if you refuse to forgive how then will he forgive you?"
I have no need whatsoever of being forgiven by your invisible(fictional) wood carving bastard or his equally imaginary asshole for a father, the serial baby murdering,smell of burnt animal flesh enjoying,planet annihilating,torturer of billions for the 'crime' of not being convinced by a book of religious bullshit written by anonymous, ancient, superstitious, science illiterate goat fucking assholes.
as a Christian we DECIDE to freely follow Christ. If we are struggling with any Sin whether its pornography, or drug use, or whatever it is.. you are RESPONSIBLE to deal with it by prayer, fasting seeking help through a Christian Counselor that can help through the world of God. Kirk Franklin also had a pornography addiction and he is still standing in the name of Jesus. Jesus helps us to purge ourselves of sinful nature, I'm surprised no one was able to call him out in the Spirit.
@andyfromsheldon No way! This is an anointed son of God you are talking about and a role model for young Christians everywhere. I invite you to my church and you can see for yourself how wonderful a life of Jesus-filled prosperity can be. We are filled with awesome power by the holy ghost to bring riches into the ministry and spread the word of Pastor Brian Houston and faith in him.
@MrILYJesus People who pretend to have cancer and then use money donated to them to buy porn are not role models for anyone anywhere. I invite you to the real world and you can see for yourself how wonderful a life unrestrained by superstition and brainwashing can be.
Interesting how you seem more interested in professing your faith in Brian Houston rather than your faith in Yahweh.
@MrIhaveacat I agree. He is a professional minister and you can see in his eyes his dedication to the church and his love of the wonderful grace of everything Hillsong brings to people who are in need. His heart is pure and he is completely dedicated to Brian Houston and the extension of God's kingdom through riches, wealth and prosperity.
@MrIhaveacat I agree. Religion is dumb. All that Jesus stuff is bullshit. But Hillsong will set you free. Brian Houston will change your life.
Please come to one of our services. We still sing 'healer' because we believe in the healing power of Ps Mike Guglielmucci. It's his story and the word of his courage more than any of the fiction in the bible that matters. Ps Mike will set you free.
@oxkrazykrnboiox You forget that this man was anointed by the Holy Spirit and doing the mighty work of God. There is no need for him to apologise to anyone - especially Jesus who gave him the cancer in the first place. Michael was already battling with porn addiction when Jesus gave him cancer. It tore him apart and ruined his life. And yet out of it all - he created this worship song, despite God abandoning him. Only his family and church stood beside him. He is a mighty man of God.
@gunfiremessiah Well.. that's what I thought - but when I read all the comments from other Christians on all the healer videos on youtube - I'm now starting to think he did. I think for most of us Christians we know that God can re-write history and erase all the bad that Satan has done. Just like Hillsong did when this song first broke by demanding that all videos of Gugglielmucci with O2 tanks be taken down due to 'copyright issues'. God can make all things work out for good.
despite the scandal, the message of the song is still powerful. worship is worship. we shouldn't let our worship become weakened by someone else's mistake. COPY & PASTE if you agree with this comment.
despite the scandal, the message of the song is still powerful. worship is worship. we shouldn't let our worship become weakened by someone else's mistake.
All those in the audience with their hands in the air feeling "the presence of god"... does this not tell you *anything*? Um, I don't know... like the Abrahamic 'faiths' are just myths and stories and you're convincing yourselves in the idea of a personal relationship with an omnipresent, omnipotent sky god on the strength of them? Just a thought.
@Tenbolt and that is why the church is seen as hypocrites... Pastor mike didn't save you he was only a vessel for the Creator. Who do you rep God or your pastor?
Yes people what the church is in dire need of is discernment! God help us to discern the truth from the lie and what is of the Spirit and what is of the flesh.
You guys have really no idea what the impact of his lie is. I've been through the same when one of my best friends lied about having cancer. Well it's devastating! It broke me down. I'm happy that I have my Lord. I don't know what I would have done without him. It's terrible when someone lies about being diagnosed with cancer
i have not met a person yet who has not lied in some way shape or form... is there a difference in a lie?.... where does the line get drawn in the sand, for a lie thats ok and one that is not... and who draws that line in the sand.... we get conned everyday by individuals including the person in the mirror...I know that somehow in someway through this challenge there will be forgiveness, life will go on and maybe we rub out that line in the sand and live better for ourselves and those around us.
Pastor Mike has been to hell and back. He has suffered from the worst form of cancer - porn addiction cancer. He had over 30 bones broken, was constantly vomiting, wanking and had all his hair fall out. Why?
Because he has been called by God to do his work. Mike is a mighty man of God and has done nothing wrong. He never lied. The only people who lied are his critics and the media.
@maxmcmech He's been healed!!! That's what this is all about!!! He had porn addiction cancer and asked Jesus to heal him and was healed instantly. Like the song says - Jesus is all we need.
Pastor Mike will not die of cancer. He is too powerful. Too awesome. Too powerful. He will be raptured - like all our great leaders.
But I am donating $100 to the cancer foundation just in case this scenario doesn't work out.
@Freethinking2010 Your right, we Christians do give frauds a free pass. BECAUSE, we are all frauds, and God has givin to all, a free pass... if we are brave enough to accept it.
@KiwiChristian Hallelujah! Someone else who has been set free by the truth. As Christians we know how to forgive. However I am not a fraud. I freely admit my sin. I hid my porn addiction cancer for many years - but since Pastor Mike opened up - now I know I no longer need to hide my masturbating. I am set free by Pastor Mike! I have had sex with many chicks from my youth group and a few guys as well but I don't hide these things. Mike has taught us to be truthful and confess. Praise Jesus!
@KiwiChristian Praise Jesus. Yes! If you read the words to his song - he already knew he was healed. Even though at the time he had to deal with constant vomiting, constant hair falling out, constant wanking. He was already healed when he wrote this song!!!
So sad that satan came along and convinced the ACC leadership to strip him of his pastoral duties.
@TENBolt But one thing, HE NEVER HAD CANCER. So he wasn't healed (from cancer). It sounds like he was wanting to wrap himself in all the hype that is a pentecostal church and put acts on for the world to see. All of the sicknesses he was going through would have been caused by his mind. "Tell a lie long enough and you start to believe it". But its good that he has confessed, Jesus is healing him. And the song Healer, isn't "Mikes" song, he may have written it, but its a song used to glorify God
Sadly it is highly likely that Guglielmucci will have a redemption story in a few years. I mean, any high flying preacher always has a fall from grace. It exemplifies the Christian message: "It doesn't matter what you have done, you will be forgiven". This, in my eyes is one of the most immoral things; To not take responsibility for your actions.
@jonnyfreddo It is not immoral to believe in Jesus. Indeed it is the most moral thing anyone can ever do. Indeed the most moral people in the world are Christians. Just look at the Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jnr - he was the morale leader of America and he believed in Jesus.
And yes, God forgives. Like Pastor Mike I also suffer from porn addiction cancer and wank three or four times a day. But I know I am forgiven because Jesus died on the cross for me.
@TENBolt You just proved my point. You are not taking responsibility for your actions and reducing an addiction that can take over your life (though in moderate doses it is great :D). You also said
"I have had sex with many chicks from my youth group and a few guys as well"
Are you serious? This also exemplifies the hypocrisy of every member of the church. The 'holy spirit' is supposedly meant to be god's witness to every christian but in many studies, they do everything the same as unbelievers
If I had a voice in this scenario, here I speak. This report was posted more than three years ago, and we still argue about it today. God loves this man. He had the gut to go up there and tell the truth. He was able to be true to himself and true to others. Now what does his song mean then? Jesus asked the crippled man IF he wanted to be healed, IF he believed. God has grace, grace for every sinner, every liar, every thief. He is not excluded from this.
@stilllife0000 No, he had the guts to go out there- consciously - and lie about having cancer. And none of you people knows that some god forgives him, not that it would make it less of a fraud.
@Freethinking2010 So true. He had the guts to go out there and tell the world that Jesus can heal. I know for a fact Jesus can heal. I have seen it for myself. A lady was healed of a headache at a healing service we had aty church last weekend!!! Praise Jesus! And a man with one leg longer than another (about 2cm!!!!!!!!) was healed last year!!! I saw it with my own eyes!!! Jesus heals!!!
@stilllife0000 So true. People forget that he was originally diagnosed as only living three months. The mere fact that he was still around two years later when he opened up (i don't like the term 'confessed' cos he did nothing wrong) is a testament to the healing power of God. Obviously people were asking questions - but people are stupid. Pastor Mike can do whatever he wants - he is an anointed one. And so brave to open up. He never needed to! None of us in the church would have ever questioned
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how sad. God is a forgiving God and a beautiful song that glorifies the One who STILL IS Healer, came out of it. To God be the glory! The people's eyes and spirits are focused on GOD during the song and worship, not on Michael anyway, or at least, they SHOULD be.
hahahahaha wow this guy was a genius. even Cartman would be jealous. He has done nothing illegal. Take the money and run. This is just a big metaphor for religion as a whole.
"You're only argument against my beliefs are based in the fact that you dont believe them"
first of, it's YOUR not YOU'RE, and #2, you're dead wrong. My SOLE argument against you is NOT that i don't believe in them, it's that you have ZERO empirical evidence to support those beliefs. NONE. The evidence that you lie and are dishonest is all over this discussion, 3-4 times i've caught you being dishonest, so i'm hardly surprised you're able to lie to yourself too.
"blatantly implying that the Bible is fraudulent "
as is evidenced with the thousands of errors and contradictions, yes, absolutely it's a work of fiction. it's plainly obvious to anyone with an open mind and even a little bit of common sense
"2 first hand witnesses of Jesus"
oh? and you have evidence this was written by the eyewitnesses? You're also trying to prove the bible by using the bible as your sole evidence!
Again you are trying to put words in my mouth. there's a possibility... it's just unfathomably SMALL. And i've been saying there's ZERO supporting evidence for a creator, let alone your god. I NEVER once said that such a being wasn't possible. however, given that over 10K deities have been worshipped here chances are pretty good IF there was a creator, he wouldn't be the christian god. Given the enormity of the universe, it's a certainty he isnt
NONSENSE. you CANNOT have scientific theories without facts. They are explanations that explain gathered data (facts). Evolution was established as a fact LONG ago
"you can simply just accept what you do believe in"
no, my beliefs NEVER have to enter into it
"You are just arguing against Christ desire for you"
imbecilic. i doubt very much he existed and i deny that he was a messiah in any case
it gets us nowhere because you have a closed mind and lack an ability to think critically
are you trying to imply you DO have evidence? i challenge you to present it
i wouldn't care if you believe in easter bunny, thor, or xenu
"God just wants you to believe in Him"
this is embarrassingly untrue. the buy bull made me an atheist. see v=4qymoktf0wY if the bible was written like this, then EVERYONE would believe in him. instead, he made a piss poor communication, unambiguous and vague as if he didn't want believers! Watch this too: v=3M21xFVwL8c
maybe for you, but i choose to go where the evidence points. i don't let faith enter into the equation.
speaking of resurrections. WHY dont the three oldest manuscripts of the buy bull mention jesus after the supposed ressurrection? WHY was this added several hundred years later?! as if to make it more believable? hmmmmm
"was not written by idiot goat herders"
it absolutely was and reads EXACTLY as if that's what happened. reads like a bronze age text
now we have to take everything in the buy bull with a grain of salt? the silly things like borne of a virgin, the multiple resurrections, the walking on water, talking snake, living in a whale, the global flood... i should take all of them with a grain of salt too then, right? WHERE does it end?! WHY must everything in it be so vague and open to each individual's interpretation? that's how you read FICTION, not a supposed book of historicity! This is why there's 38K different sects of xtianity
"and all you can say against the existence of God is that evolution happened on its own"
i never said nor implied this. unlike you, i'm smart enough to know they are NOT mutually exclusive. the fact evolution by natural selection happens (biology) has NOTHING to do with who/when/how/what created the universe (cosmology)
your nonsense about trying to rationalize the buy bull calling the moon a light is called special pleading, you refuse to admit it's quite CLEARLY and DEMONSTRABLY WRONG!
"on the contrary all western science was founded on a belief in God"
you're INSANE. when science pointed to the buy bull being untrue, scientists were convicted of heresy!
"leaving the interpretation of God up to each person"
because science doesnt care! it makes no comment. it functions just the same with or without a god. occam's razor: WHY introduce something into the equation?! Your last comment just reinforces your lack of evidence supporting your belief.
Typical lying and purposely misquoting asshole douchebag! HOW THE FUCK DOES "it REINFORCES a NATURAL cause for everything" magically transform into "there is a natural cause for everything"!?!!? this is the typical creationist dishonesty that gives ALL christians a bad name!
I NEVER said there was a natural cause for everything, i said that's where the evidence points, and YOU KNOW the difference!
"science was never intended to make people into atheists"
*sigh* the onus of evidence is ALWAYS on the one making the claim! ALWAYS! set out to prove santa, the easter bunny, and harry potter aren't real. set out to prove i didn't create the universe complete with false memories the moment you opened your browser. you cannot. it's the same with zeus, xenu, or any other god
"we actually don't know if it is 6,000 years old"
ignorant lie. we know that it's AT LEAST 14BY. we have trees older than 6K, bushes older than 17K. fungus' older than that
"Yet there is still a blind faith in whatever someone reads in a textbook"
this is just disingenuous. our textbooks contain ZERO blind faith. it's not wild conjecture. . it's the best explanations that we currently have based on obervations, mulitple redundant tests, peer review (many theist scientists included), and the theories are falsifiable and make predictions
"who can't be defeated."
the onus of evidence is on the one making the claim, and you can't even prove he existed let alone a god
@lennyhipp An inscription found in Northern Israel mentioning King David's dynasty. The inscription is the oldest reference to any Biblical figure outside the Bible. The discovery of an ossuary, a stone box used for retaining bones of the deceased, inscribed with the name of Caiaphas, the high priest who presided over the trial of Jesus shortly before his crucifixion. archaeological evidence that proves the events of the bible, and what the bible says is true
"The inscription is the oldest reference to any Biblical figure outside the Bible"
and would prove ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the bible... even if it were true.
Sorry, but there's an agreement amongst biblical scholars, most who are theist... THere quite simply is no supporting evidence that there ever was a King David. Also, does the mention of King's Cross Station (a real train station in london) being mentioned in Harry Potter books, does that mean wizards are real!? this is what you're saying
@lennyhipp wizards are real? well that would be cool, could explain the rioting and llting, voldemort has returned. There is actualy proof of David existing, in the last 10 years they found his old temple. He was real because when he was alive statues were made for him, which are found to be existing. So people saw him, made statues of him, proved he existed as they saw him, and you say he wasnt real? if he wasnt real then shit loads of people had the same imaginary friend that looked similar
They have just as much supporting evidence as unicorns, dragons, talking snakes, miracles, people who can walk on water, people who can live inside whales, and as much evidence supporting them as devils, gods, heaven and hell... So if you think wizards might be real, i'm really not at all surprised. Coincidentally, ALL the above things have as much evidence as leprechauns, faeries, griffins, minotaurs, godzilla, the easter bunny, superman and mermaids as well.
they found a small village that COULD be where a kind David might have presided over it's hardly the majestic kingdom the bible describes, also WTF would it matter if David was real? it doesn't magically confirm the events in the bible!
"archaeological evidence that proves the events of the bible"
retardation. So the Iliad mentions both Troy and the Trojan war, by your logic Zeus and Apollo are gods, and Achilles is impervious to harm! you fucking LOON!
@lennyhipp im the fucking loon? your the fucking loon for coming up with illogical nonsense babble. Proving David's existence would disrpove your bullshit about the bible being wrong, there has never been proof of zues and all these other pagan gods, so you trying to link real truth to false shit through science, which has proven events in the bible, against other gods, which have never been proven, and mythical creatures, and theories that have had failed experiments. which is more of a loon?
"Proving David's existence would disrpove your bullshit about the bible being wrong"
it would NOT you fucking moron!
"there has never been proof of zues and all these other pagan gods"
and NONE for yours either! Time to wake up and deal with it! I don't see how you cannot wrap your tiny little mind around thisL: you're trying to prove your god is real because there's evidence someone named David MIGHT HAVE BEEN real is the EXACT SAME THING as trying to prove Zeus because Troy is real! DUH!
"which has proven events in the bible against other gods, which have never been proven"
you're a fucking imbecile if you think because your book of fairy tale mentions a real person proves your god is real! Harry Potter mentions Kings Cross Station. Does this mean wizards are real? Shakespeare's plays mention Julias Cesear, does this mean there are witches and ghosts, and that King Lear is real? OF COURSE NOT!
ALL those mythical creatures have JUST AS MUCH evidence as being real as your god does
@lennyhipp not really, im not sure where ur hate comes from against harry potter, he done nothing to you, stop bringing him up in an argument irrelevant to him, its just pointless and proves that im correct, that your a fucking idiot. And you saying the bible is full of shit and stupid and false is really funny, how i can make scientific claims and u stilldisbelieve it cause science backs me up, and the fact that David existing would disprove ur belief of the bible being false would be null
@noobsliceinc <---quite possibly the stupidest person on youtube
"cause science backs me up"
it does the opposite. it shows it to be unreliable and not the word of god. there's ZERO evidence to support the bible is real. ZERO evidence jesus rose from the dead. ZERO evidence the buy bull is what you claim. ZERO evidence that there is ANY god, let alone the christian one.
have a good day
, and the fact that David existing would disprove ur belief of the bible being false would be n
@lennyhipp it wouldnt disprove my belief at all, as i look up to him, as he had bitches, loads of bitches, and there is oddly enough loads of scientific evidence proving the bible true, and if the bible is true so must the entity that created the people to write it be real. not only archaeological evidence but your astronomy that you love so much (or cosmology) proven an event to be true, not to mention account witnesses and markings about jesus resurrection, his judge was written on his tomb
"oddly enough loads of scientific evidence proving the bible true"
ignorant lie and you've failed to provide a shred of evidence to back your nonsense
"if the bible is true so must the entity that created the people to write it be real"
an embarrassing non sequitur, does not follow
stupid douche, there is NO archeological evidence proving the bible true, ZERO evidence that ANYONE let alone jesus was resurrected, and ZERO astronomical evidence supporting it either.
@lennyhipp obviously you are ignorant to truth and a fucking dumbass, all you can do is say shit without backup evidence, you say some shit to try and disprove our evidence which was proven WITH science and yet you say SCIENCE is truth, well SCIENCE proved EVENTS in the BIBLE so you would have to believe in the EVENTS of the BIBLE as you are a science whore, archaelogical evidence have proved loads of things in the bible, from moses in egypt to David's "kingdom" or whatever you would call it
*sigh* here we go again. Because it mentions things or places or people that actually lived DOES NOT magically make everything in it true you fucking unthinking ignorant and gullible fuckwit! Using your fucked up non-existant logic, the fact that King's Cross Station and London are mentioned in Harry Potter proves wizards! The fact that the Illiad mentions Troy and the Trojan war, proves Zeus and Achilles are real! You FUCKING STUPID ignorant douche!
@lennyhipp omg your a fucking idiot, you ARE the biggest dumb cunt i have ever seen. again with this wizard stuff, your fucking stupid beyond recognition, omg J.K Rowling made a made up book about london and kings cross because she frequented there alot and she needed money for petrol, does that mean its real? NO YOU DUMBCUNT. what this archaeological facts does prove is events in the bible is real, and disproves your theory of the whole of the bible being bullshit, so again you carrying on shit
" made a made up book about london" <--prove she didn't write from first hand knowledge of wizards. also, i was giving an example of the EXACT SAME KIND of evidence you're using. 2K yrs from now if there's no evidence for JK rowling, and someone reads HP, the fact that it mentions real places in history, proves wizards (using your ignorant logic)
"what this archaeological facts does prove"
it does NO SUCH THING you little retard! Like the Iliad proves ZEUS!
@lennyhipp oh really? i think ur getting shit mixed up with futurama, it may be funny but because leela stole kids show ideas of wierd ass aliens and sold it, but it doesnt mean you have to take her idea, like she did with them by saying Rowling had real life experience with wizards, if wizards were real and harry potter was made because of personal encounterment they would kill her for trying to make wizards a known race (or whatever).
"still you disbelieve it cause it involves the bible"
you complete moron, i disbelieve it because it has ZERO empirical evidence to support the nonsense in it. it's one of the least credible works in all of fiction. because it mentions a real person DOES NOT lend to the credibility that miracles occurred, that half a dozen people were resurrected, that jesus was a messiah, that people can live in whales, that a global flood occurred. Shakespeare's plays mention Cesar. does that make ghosts real?
"Your vitriol is overwhelming. I'm genuinely concerned you may pass out from rage"
Sad little git, i've lost my temper exactly THREE times in my 45 yrs on this planet. Any more relaxed i'd be dead! What you mistake for rage is pity and contempt for idiots.
from wiki: "Since the original discovery this identification has been challenged by some scholars on various grounds, including the spelling of the inscription, the lack of any mention of Caiaphas's status as High Priest, the plainness of the tomb..., and other reasons"
and wiki gives scholarly sources for this.
EVEN IF there was such a person it DOES NOT make the events in the buy bull true! DUH OF COURSE they'd add real people, to make it more believable and credible
@lennyhipp are you fucking kidding me? your using wiki as a credible source? so what your saying is the bible uses real events and has official proof to con people into believing it, when there is proof to show its real?
NO!!!! you fucking imbecile! i said "wiki gives scholarly sources for this."
typical dishonest creationist. Also, in a study by Oxford Uni, wiki is as accurate as britanica.
"when there is proof to show its real?"
NO you fucking idiot, what i'm saying is the bible writes about SOME events AFTER they happen. This DOES NOT qualify it as ENTIRELY accurate, nor does it make it historically accurate. Illiad mentions Troy. DUH
no, i'm accepting the overwhelming empirical evidence supporting them... unlike you who is going on faith alone without a shred of supporting evidence. HUGE F'n difference and how dare you compare the two?
"We are finding more and more everyday with studies in microbiology and archaeology"
yep and add to those geology, paleontology and cosmology... and with each new discovery, it REINFORCES a NATURAL cause for everything, while casting more and more doubt on there being a deity
@lennyhipp cosmology proved events in the bible were true, NASA watches the stars movements and planet movements, and they decided to reverse it, using all the info it has collected, they got to a time like 3000-4000 years ago where it was sunny in the middle east for 2 whole days (meaning it never went to night). In the bible approx 3000-4000 years ago there was a battle. as long as Moses held up his hands to God they would win, and the Sun stayed on them for 2 days
FOOL! first, you should show CREDIBLE evidence for this story. Second, you need to explain HOW THE FUCK this would prove the buy bull is true, and not simply an event written about AFTER it happened. there is a LOT of self-fulfilling "prophecies" in the buy bull. NONE of which proves anything. By using your (dumb) logic, if an even happened today, and i wrote about it in a book, and someone referenced it 2K years from now and could prove it happened, EVERYTHING i wrote about is true?
@noobsliceinc it sounds like you're referring to this old wive's tale... it's pretty F'n STUPID that anyone would believe this nonsense! snopesDOTcom/religion/lostday.asp
"Just because someone believes in Jesus Christ doesn't mean they don't have a brain"
never said this. although the evidence for him living is very scarce and VERY sketchy at best... but, EVEN IF i grant you that someone named jesus was cruxified 2KYA, it DOES NOT prove ANYTHING in the bible being true! It DOES NOT prove he was borne from a virgin, performed miracles or was resurrected, and most importantly DOES NOT prove he was a messiah!
"What matters is he wrote that God created everything in the universe"
...and this proves exactly nothing. it also talks of unicorns, dragons, and many other silly things. simply stating god created the universe means nothing
"you are continually using scientific evidences to try to disprove the Bible"
bullshit. NOT ONCE have i done this. i said there's ZERO evidence supporting what the buy bull says. huge difference. yes, it can't be done, just like you cannot disprove i created the universe!
"light source to people who didn't know that it reflected the sun's light. "
yeah... kinda like the ignorant goat herders who wrote the buy bull, right? except, it ISNT a light, is it? This is called special pleading. "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also"
nice try. god made two lights. NOT one light and one mirror. The verse also shows the ignorant goat herders who wrote it didn't know the sun is a star
uhh. That's NOT what makes it a failed prophecy, THIS does: " that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene"
SHOW ME WHERE in the OT this prophecy was spoken
SHOW ME the passage in OT that can be attributed to what jesus says in Mat12:5
24:34 Sorry pal, but did you happen to miss the part: "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"!?
Pt 2) Sorry, i don't do PMs... idiot creationists tend to copy and paste tens of thousands of words from moronic creationist websites and expect me to waste time debunking each and every point despite it having been thoroughly rebuked many times before.
More failed prophecies: Abraham's descendents were supposed to be as plentiful as the stars. There's over 100 billion stars in our own galaxy, over 150 billion known galaxies. More stars in the universe than grains of sand on earth
sure, glad you asked. always happy to elaborate or give evidence for a claim! Where should I start?
The buy bull talks about living in a whale for 3 days. impossible and silly fairy tale. Evidence to back it? Thought so
The buy bull speaks of a global flood that we know for sure didn't happen in the last 100 million years. There's ZERO evidence supporting it. Care to give some?
The buy bull calls the moon a light source, not once but TWICE!
@lennyhipp Hi, he is required to give back what he stole like Gospel characters, but apart from that, forgiveness means letting him go of what he owes that he can't repay. To some the music is ok. I don't like it.
In church, love at heart the objective, to be in true order and for the after life. Not money, it merely serves.
@Novatene ...BUT he belongs in jail. He stole (theft by deception) he committed fraud. "Not money, it merely serves." <---but the church is ALL ABOUT money! Tithing anyone?
" to be in true order and for the after life"
but there's no evidence of an after life... he needs to pay for his crimes in THIS life!
@MegaSheepboy this is what's known as special pleading. we're made of "star stuff" not from dirt. Christians are delusional for believing in a god with ZERO supporting empirical evidence. There's SOOOOO MUCH in the christian buy bull that we know for sure isn't true. there's over 1K errors and contradictions, failed prophecies and innaccuracies.
sorry, not buying your BS. i DID read the buy bull. it's what made me an atheist. the god of the OT is NOT a loving god. it's why early christians HAD to write a new testament... because the god from the OT was such a hateful douche! How about "there most likely isn't a god, and there's zero doubt that IF there was a supreme creator, he could NOT possibly be the god of the christian bible" is that better than "there is no god"? Nothing ignorant about that. What IS ignorant is blind faith
@lennyhipp im not sure if you realise this, but scientific shit about evolution and the age of the world is a load of crap, you dont believe in a god because "whackjobs" made the bible, yet you believe whackjobs who fail at the experiments to disprove God and prove the big bang theory. what is more stupid? science has actually proven many things correct in the bible, NASA even did an experiment on the stars, and thousands of years ago it was found it was sunny 2 full days, this was in the bible
"yet you believe whackjobs who fail at the experiments to disprove God"
you stupid ignorant fuck, no scientist has EVER tried to disprove god because:
1)proofs do NOT exist outside the maths and NOTHING is ever proven or disproven with science
2)scientists are smart enough to know that the onus of evidence is ALWAYS on the one making the claim!
Using your retarded logic, if i claim i kept a 10,000 headed invisible purple leprechaun in a box under my bed, it would be up to YOU to prove i didn't!
the buy bull and people who believe silly fairy tales without a shred of evidence supporting them, or heavily scrutinized theories, passing peer review and utilizing the scientific method by the smartest minds on the planet? is this a serious question?!
if evolution was a load of crap, it wouldnt be a theory dumbass, and it certainly wouldn't be the foundation of modern biology!
"science has actually proven many things correct in the bible"
It actually can be argued that the buy bull is the single most UN-scientific book in the history of fiction, so contrary to your claim: NOTHING is ever proven, (or disproven) but there is a LOT of things that science has shown to be false about your bronze age fairy tale, and nothing shown to be scientifically correct about it that wasn't already general knowledge at the time.
@MegaSheepboy So are you talking about aliens cause thats a more probably reality,If there is a creator it would be just that as we may be part of a science experiment or does that just sound crazy to you?Life may be that of alien origin but the universe noThe.Large Hadron Collider answers more than enough questions about the birth in the universe.You should read about the Danes and there quest to make life from chemicals ala' primordial soup theory.I'm confident that the theories will be proven
@MegaSheepboy If I shaved my head and proclaimed that I had cancer and defrauded people for that nature and in time I was found guilty I would be incarcerated no if,and's or but'ss about it.Sorry won't save your ass.But this pastor michael what does he get?Piss all!!He should be thrown in the slammer along with all the other scammers like Hinn and Popoff.One would have to be a fool to believe in morons like this.Question is how do they get away with it?It is a crime and proper punishment is due.
@MegaSheepboy I liked to know how you think that my lifestyle is so selfish as you know fuck all about me.I consider myself to have been lucky enough to have parents that didn't feed my head full of dreadful religious nonsense.I was given the choice.I grew up fine it wasn't a perfect enviroment(alcoholism) but the world isn't perfect and I except that.But I sure as shit wouldn't pull a stunt like pastor micheal did,he knew exactly what he was doing and who he was doing it to.
@MegaSheepboy The oceans were formed from comets entering the earth not a magic man waving his hands.The universe is endless and is not responsible from a so called god from a book called the bible or koran.Think about how foolish that sounds.The universe is much more complicated than that of the words of a fairytale book.You can't convince from passages read from the bible so don't try to use that as factual information cause it doesn't stand.Look up earth wikipedia it says nothing about god.
@MegaSheepboy I don't blame god as there is no such thing.An accusation against a manifestation is in the realm of someone who is crazy and I am not that but you are questionable. And yes modern science does dissprove a great deal of the bible so don't make up your own facts unless you have thoroughly researched it.It's all there.The earth wasn't created in 7 days.The earth is 4.5 million years old and has been through a series of changes in those years bringing on lanscape and life.
Also I am not closed minded I just know the difference between fantasy and reality.I don't want nor need to join and cult or be any part of any religious organization that uses fear and hope as a means to draw money or corrupt children mentally and sexually.Really when you think about it the Nazi's can't hold a candle to all the religious atrocities over the centuries.Can't wave a nazi flag around but a crucifix is ok?
Imagine a "quite agressive form of cancer" where you are still alive and robust even after 2 years, how stupid must his family be if they didn't know.
How many people of us have lied???.....I bet all of us have...And when it comes to lies we all know that it has a snow ball effect.....To cover up one lie we have to tell a hundred lies....At least God gave Michael Guglielmucci the courage to come out and say the truth and take the embarrassment and shame of it rather coming out and say God cured him......God truly did heal him in a way!.....Praise God, and take a moment to examine you own heart rather than judging someone else's
@gunfiremessiah Good question. Like his masturbating was so bad that he was vomiting in buckets and pulling his hair out. But Ps Mike was listening to the trumpet of Jesus while the world heard a different sound. Ps Mike was strumming to a different beat. He had his own rhythm.
Go Pastor Michael Guglielmucci! you have the courage to own up to stand up for what you know is right, now U can live a life that the darkness cannot attack. it's hard for us. we are not saints, but we can still make choices after mistakes :) Go Pastor Michael Guglielmucci! I really believe you can overcome! I believe in you llike God does!
Fuck this idiot he's nothing but a fuck'n' loser who used cancer as a motive to scam money out of his brain washed/brain dead followers to fund his porn habit..It must be nice to know he was jerk'n' off all of your money.But forgiveness is the christain way.. I guess that would be the same forgivenes given if he raped a poor helpless child in the ass.And don't pretend that doesn't happen.Stupid bible humpers.
@vanessa1992 OK until I have an encounter with god?We are god we created and made up the term god.There are many gods so which god do speak of?Try to sum it up to me and have me convinced that there is a god?Show me proof.Tell me about the endlessness of space and the more then probable existence of life in the galaxy and tell me about their god.Tell me about about the 150 million years that dinosaurs ruled the earth.To many questions not enough answers.
@suttercain666 Believing in God is something totally different than proving that He exists. And you if someone wants to encounter with God, he has to open his heart. And I cant prove to you that God exists, but I can tell I've seen miracles that tell me He exists. But to look at it from a different perspective, you can't prove He doesn't exists as well. And I know there are many questions and not enough answers and believe me I have a lot of questions as well, but God can't be explained.
@robinvbx God was born in the pages of the bible and the so called geniuses who wrote it,not god writing it.The bible has been debunked over and over again but yet common sense tends to turn a blind eye to this reality.This whole can't see it but it's there 'though he shows no existence he exists sounds like a childs imagination at work..Do you know anything about about modern day science,do you even pay attention to it?Do you believe the earth is 10,000 years old?
@suttercain666 I can understand that you see it that way and I have to admit that with today's science things like believing the bible and in God are very hard. But still I believe He exists and following him is not easy I can tell. But if you don't believe in God than how do you see miracles that happen? And once more, I'm not trying to prove to you that God exists, because that's not what believing in God is about. And I can't prove you it, especially if you don't open your heart for Him.
@robinvbx Miracles?Benny Hinn he's a non stop miracle machine.It's a load of crap.Hinn and the others like him are nothing but criminals.A miracle is just a term meaning" beat the odds",no god magic or fantasy crap involved.The problem is the lack of proper education about religion and it's myths and cult obsessivness.Chirdren are the prime targets of religion because they are impressionable,easily trained.Kids need science and reasonable explanation not man made manifestaion.
@robinvbx I am far more intelligent than to resort myself to something so transparent as religion as my heart only goes to my family and friends,not god or jesus or what ever made up characters are going for the week.With the rapid growth of technology the truth of our existance is only a stone throw away and the bible will soon be put in the fiction section of the library where it should be.
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@suttercain666 "F****"? You express hatred? Why such a philosophy? Why does your imagination or memory produce thoughts thoughts of helpless children being raped?
Bible quoters, have IQs presently beyond genii. Writing full answers from the view point of Molecular Biologists ... to Dawkins... There are Christian doctor associations, from there comes the ethical scientists and the next generation of researchers.
Jesus the Christ came to heal the indignity of rape and teach and empower change
I pray that we show the same grace and mercy that God bestows upon us, and also learn to separate the precious from the vile. Prove all things, and hold on to that which is good(1 Thessalonians 5:21). Blessed be the name of the Lord.
jekaranja 20 hours ago
The thing that bothers me about this story, is it's like they think people shouldn't have bought his song, when in fact the song itself is still powerful and true, and would have blessed a lot of people.
JyeSherwell 1 week ago
@JyeSherwell The whole story being the song is full of fraud, deception and lies. So in all probability the song is a lie too. If Jesus was all this guy needed, why wasn't he healed [of his so-called porn addiction] why did he need to seek professional help? It seems that Jesus didn't heal him. Seems the song is a lie just like the whole dirty sordid god damn saga.
MrILYJesus 1 week ago
Principles over personalities.... just because this man has fallen from grace doesn't mean God's word isn't true.... God even says that we are not supposed to follow men but follow Him....men are fallible but God is infallible......
schneevs67 3 weeks ago
@schneevs67 So my question to you then is: this guy was in the ministry for two years while lying. Was he anointed by God during this time to be doing God's work?
MrILYJesus 2 weeks ago
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@schneevs67 "men are fallible but god is infallible..."
Where did u hear about your god? Ans: from MEN
Therefore, if u were to be honest w/ yourself (christian seldom ever are) you'd admit that everything u heard about your god originated w/ another human being.
U may believe your faith is in god but your real faith is in MEN. MEN who told u what to believe w/o evidence & u believe because you're afraid that you will be denied everlasting life if you don't.
You have been duped.
atrumira 2 weeks ago
looks like he was planning to be miraculously "healed", till he got caught. and all the sheeple would have happily followed.
brynnus 1 month ago
@brynnus yes!!! sounds like it!!! apparently his family started asking questions..
MrILYJesus 2 weeks ago
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NEWS BULLETIN >>> THIS JUST IN >>>
The first (previously missing) page from the new testament has been discovered, still clenched in the hand of an ancient man whose skeletal remains included a (petrified) thorny crown.
This page, originally in ancient Hebrew, once translated, reads:
"All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental."
atrumira 1 month ago
this is the act of antichrist.so disgraceful and decieving
kentarnel1 1 month ago
@kentarnel1 I am the antichrist. PRIASE ME. HAIL ME. HAIL SATAN.
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yu believe in god
YA DUN GOOFD
bamff619 3 weeks ago
OH MY GOD how could you, you should be ashamed. Do you EVER think ANYONE can trust you again?
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musclesilove 1 month ago
Atleast he repented!!!!!
jabezjabez92 1 month ago
@jabezjabez92 "At least he repented!"
jesus fucking christ you christards are morally bankrupt fools. This scumbag ripped people off & as a christard you attempted to put a positive spin on this.
atrumira 1 month ago
@atrumira we are not allowed to pass comment. As christians we look to our leaders for guidance and give them 10% of what we earn. If a leader lies to us - then that is OK, because after all, we're all human.
TENBolt 1 month ago
@TENBolt "If a leader lies to us then that is OK becus after all we're all human"
WHAT??? You're attempting to trivialize LYING to 100s of 1000s of people about having TERMINAL CANCER so that u can sell CDs to help pay for your ADDICTION TO PORN.
There will have been people inc. the elderly who were suckered in by this scumbag & we shud just forgive & forget??
Sadly, the god u worship doesn't operate like this; fail to be convinced by a book of religious text & he'll TORTURE U FOREVER.
atrumira 1 month ago
@atrumira Listen here JESUS CHRIST judge us by the way we judge others...
So if you refuse to forgive how then will he forgive you????
jabezjabez92 1 month ago
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@jabezjabez92 "So if you refuse to forgive how then will he forgive you?"
I have no need whatsoever of being forgiven by your invisible(fictional) wood carving bastard or his equally imaginary asshole for a father, the serial baby murdering,smell of burnt animal flesh enjoying,planet annihilating,torturer of billions for the 'crime' of not being convinced by a book of religious bullshit written by anonymous, ancient, superstitious, science illiterate goat fucking assholes.
atrumira 1 month ago
Those church people don't give a shit. They love to be lied to. Isn't that what religion is all about?
yukonnoka 2 months ago 2
hahaha shaved his head but th fat fuck didnt lose any weight!!!
skyejordon 2 months ago
hes going to hell the stupid fool!!
skyejordon 2 months ago
as a Christian we DECIDE to freely follow Christ. If we are struggling with any Sin whether its pornography, or drug use, or whatever it is.. you are RESPONSIBLE to deal with it by prayer, fasting seeking help through a Christian Counselor that can help through the world of God. Kirk Franklin also had a pornography addiction and he is still standing in the name of Jesus. Jesus helps us to purge ourselves of sinful nature, I'm surprised no one was able to call him out in the Spirit.
noahsmom0611 2 months ago
What a complete and utter low-life.
andyfromsheldon 2 months ago
@andyfromsheldon No way! This is an anointed son of God you are talking about and a role model for young Christians everywhere. I invite you to my church and you can see for yourself how wonderful a life of Jesus-filled prosperity can be. We are filled with awesome power by the holy ghost to bring riches into the ministry and spread the word of Pastor Brian Houston and faith in him.
MrILYJesus 2 months ago
@MrILYJesus People who pretend to have cancer and then use money donated to them to buy porn are not role models for anyone anywhere. I invite you to the real world and you can see for yourself how wonderful a life unrestrained by superstition and brainwashing can be.
Interesting how you seem more interested in professing your faith in Brian Houston rather than your faith in Yahweh.
andyfromsheldon 2 months ago
lawlsy this guy is a pro
MrIhaveacat 2 months ago
@MrIhaveacat I agree. He is a professional minister and you can see in his eyes his dedication to the church and his love of the wonderful grace of everything Hillsong brings to people who are in need. His heart is pure and he is completely dedicated to Brian Houston and the extension of God's kingdom through riches, wealth and prosperity.
MrILYJesus 2 months ago
@MrILYJesus lol, religion is dumb anyway.
MrIhaveacat 2 months ago
@MrIhaveacat I agree. Religion is dumb. All that Jesus stuff is bullshit. But Hillsong will set you free. Brian Houston will change your life.
Please come to one of our services. We still sing 'healer' because we believe in the healing power of Ps Mike Guglielmucci. It's his story and the word of his courage more than any of the fiction in the bible that matters. Ps Mike will set you free.
MrILYJesus 2 months ago
hes apologizing to the people... and not once have i heard him apologizing to our Savior Jesus Christ.. this man needs our prayers
oxkrazykrnboiox 2 months ago
@oxkrazykrnboiox You forget that this man was anointed by the Holy Spirit and doing the mighty work of God. There is no need for him to apologise to anyone - especially Jesus who gave him the cancer in the first place. Michael was already battling with porn addiction when Jesus gave him cancer. It tore him apart and ruined his life. And yet out of it all - he created this worship song, despite God abandoning him. Only his family and church stood beside him. He is a mighty man of God.
MrILYJesus 2 months ago
@MrILYJesus ummm...eerrrr, you do understand that HE DOES NOT HAVE CANCER????
gunfiremessiah 2 months ago
@gunfiremessiah Well.. that's what I thought - but when I read all the comments from other Christians on all the healer videos on youtube - I'm now starting to think he did. I think for most of us Christians we know that God can re-write history and erase all the bad that Satan has done. Just like Hillsong did when this song first broke by demanding that all videos of Gugglielmucci with O2 tanks be taken down due to 'copyright issues'. God can make all things work out for good.
MrILYJesus 2 months ago
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despite the scandal, the message of the song is still powerful. worship is worship. we shouldn't let our worship become weakened by someone else's mistake. COPY & PASTE if you agree with this comment.
Specialized1993 2 months ago
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despite the scandal, the message of the song is still powerful. worship is worship. we shouldn't let our worship become weakened by someone else's mistake.
3mazhani 2 months ago
Googleymoochy !!! ROFL
All those in the audience with their hands in the air feeling "the presence of god"... does this not tell you *anything*? Um, I don't know... like the Abrahamic 'faiths' are just myths and stories and you're convincing yourselves in the idea of a personal relationship with an omnipresent, omnipotent sky god on the strength of them? Just a thought.
GhibliFan1 3 months ago
@Tenbolt and that is why the church is seen as hypocrites... Pastor mike didn't save you he was only a vessel for the Creator. Who do you rep God or your pastor?
whyisthisnecessary11 3 months ago
Yes people what the church is in dire need of is discernment! God help us to discern the truth from the lie and what is of the Spirit and what is of the flesh.
JNR
jnr8877 3 months ago
You guys have really no idea what the impact of his lie is. I've been through the same when one of my best friends lied about having cancer. Well it's devastating! It broke me down. I'm happy that I have my Lord. I don't know what I would have done without him. It's terrible when someone lies about being diagnosed with cancer
shelmajaa 3 months ago
i have not met a person yet who has not lied in some way shape or form... is there a difference in a lie?.... where does the line get drawn in the sand, for a lie thats ok and one that is not... and who draws that line in the sand.... we get conned everyday by individuals including the person in the mirror...I know that somehow in someway through this challenge there will be forgiveness, life will go on and maybe we rub out that line in the sand and live better for ourselves and those around us.
bear0134 3 months ago
how is this video tied in any way to HILLSONG??? I dont see any connection according to the wiki page??
IHeartLifeMovement 3 months ago
You know,
Hate the SIN, but LOVE the Sinner.
MrHelloXD 4 months ago
Pastor Mike has been to hell and back. He has suffered from the worst form of cancer - porn addiction cancer. He had over 30 bones broken, was constantly vomiting, wanking and had all his hair fall out. Why?
Because he has been called by God to do his work. Mike is a mighty man of God and has done nothing wrong. He never lied. The only people who lied are his critics and the media.
TENBolt 4 months ago
This must be the most vile low rat cunt bastard in Australia.
JesusSuckedGayPenis 4 months ago 2
The greatest irony would be if he died of cancer.
maxmcmech 5 months ago 2
@maxmcmech He's been healed!!! That's what this is all about!!! He had porn addiction cancer and asked Jesus to heal him and was healed instantly. Like the song says - Jesus is all we need.
Pastor Mike will not die of cancer. He is too powerful. Too awesome. Too powerful. He will be raptured - like all our great leaders.
But I am donating $100 to the cancer foundation just in case this scenario doesn't work out.
TENBolt 4 months ago
@TENBolt Way to go troll. Your comments are hilarious
maxmcmech 4 months ago
I love how the church got behind this guy at the end. We done church.
Looks like he needed healing after all, not for this fake illness but for his mental illness, which made him lie to this wife and family. Poor man.
I hope Jesus has already healed him.
KiwiChristian 5 months ago
@KiwiChristian What mental illness? It's pure fraud. But you christians will never admit that. You always give these frauds a free pass.
Freethinking2010 5 months ago 2
@Freethinking2010 Your right, we Christians do give frauds a free pass. BECAUSE, we are all frauds, and God has givin to all, a free pass... if we are brave enough to accept it.
KiwiChristian 5 months ago
@KiwiChristian Hallelujah! Someone else who has been set free by the truth. As Christians we know how to forgive. However I am not a fraud. I freely admit my sin. I hid my porn addiction cancer for many years - but since Pastor Mike opened up - now I know I no longer need to hide my masturbating. I am set free by Pastor Mike! I have had sex with many chicks from my youth group and a few guys as well but I don't hide these things. Mike has taught us to be truthful and confess. Praise Jesus!
TENBolt 4 months ago
@KiwiChristian Praise Jesus. Yes! If you read the words to his song - he already knew he was healed. Even though at the time he had to deal with constant vomiting, constant hair falling out, constant wanking. He was already healed when he wrote this song!!!
So sad that satan came along and convinced the ACC leadership to strip him of his pastoral duties.
TENBolt 4 months ago
@TENBolt But one thing, HE NEVER HAD CANCER. So he wasn't healed (from cancer). It sounds like he was wanting to wrap himself in all the hype that is a pentecostal church and put acts on for the world to see. All of the sicknesses he was going through would have been caused by his mind. "Tell a lie long enough and you start to believe it". But its good that he has confessed, Jesus is healing him. And the song Healer, isn't "Mikes" song, he may have written it, but its a song used to glorify God
sargentrobo 3 months ago
Sadly it is highly likely that Guglielmucci will have a redemption story in a few years. I mean, any high flying preacher always has a fall from grace. It exemplifies the Christian message: "It doesn't matter what you have done, you will be forgiven". This, in my eyes is one of the most immoral things; To not take responsibility for your actions.
jonnyfreddo 5 months ago 3
@jonnyfreddo It is not immoral to believe in Jesus. Indeed it is the most moral thing anyone can ever do. Indeed the most moral people in the world are Christians. Just look at the Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jnr - he was the morale leader of America and he believed in Jesus.
And yes, God forgives. Like Pastor Mike I also suffer from porn addiction cancer and wank three or four times a day. But I know I am forgiven because Jesus died on the cross for me.
TENBolt 4 months ago
@TENBolt You just proved my point. You are not taking responsibility for your actions and reducing an addiction that can take over your life (though in moderate doses it is great :D). You also said
"I have had sex with many chicks from my youth group and a few guys as well"
Are you serious? This also exemplifies the hypocrisy of every member of the church. The 'holy spirit' is supposedly meant to be god's witness to every christian but in many studies, they do everything the same as unbelievers
jonnyfreddo 4 months ago
@jonnyfreddo I think hes taking the piss, mate
gunfiremessiah 1 month ago
If I had a voice in this scenario, here I speak. This report was posted more than three years ago, and we still argue about it today. God loves this man. He had the gut to go up there and tell the truth. He was able to be true to himself and true to others. Now what does his song mean then? Jesus asked the crippled man IF he wanted to be healed, IF he believed. God has grace, grace for every sinner, every liar, every thief. He is not excluded from this.
stilllife0000 5 months ago
@stilllife0000 No, he had the guts to go out there- consciously - and lie about having cancer. And none of you people knows that some god forgives him, not that it would make it less of a fraud.
Freethinking2010 5 months ago
@Freethinking2010 So true. He had the guts to go out there and tell the world that Jesus can heal. I know for a fact Jesus can heal. I have seen it for myself. A lady was healed of a headache at a healing service we had aty church last weekend!!! Praise Jesus! And a man with one leg longer than another (about 2cm!!!!!!!!) was healed last year!!! I saw it with my own eyes!!! Jesus heals!!!
TENBolt 4 months ago
@stilllife0000 So true. People forget that he was originally diagnosed as only living three months. The mere fact that he was still around two years later when he opened up (i don't like the term 'confessed' cos he did nothing wrong) is a testament to the healing power of God. Obviously people were asking questions - but people are stupid. Pastor Mike can do whatever he wants - he is an anointed one. And so brave to open up. He never needed to! None of us in the church would have ever questioned
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enigami08 5 months ago
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how sad. God is a forgiving God and a beautiful song that glorifies the One who STILL IS Healer, came out of it. To God be the glory! The people's eyes and spirits are focused on GOD during the song and worship, not on Michael anyway, or at least, they SHOULD be.
yahssis 6 months ago
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how sad. God is a forgiving God and a beautiful song that glorifies the One who STILL IS Healer, came out of it. To God be the glory!
yahssis 6 months ago
hahahahaha wow this guy was a genius. even Cartman would be jealous. He has done nothing illegal. Take the money and run. This is just a big metaphor for religion as a whole.
answer3a3 6 months ago
"You're only argument against my beliefs are based in the fact that you dont believe them"
first of, it's YOUR not YOU'RE, and #2, you're dead wrong. My SOLE argument against you is NOT that i don't believe in them, it's that you have ZERO empirical evidence to support those beliefs. NONE. The evidence that you lie and are dishonest is all over this discussion, 3-4 times i've caught you being dishonest, so i'm hardly surprised you're able to lie to yourself too.
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"Sure, i have less "evidence" of God's existence"
correction: you have NONE
"blatantly implying that the Bible is fraudulent "
as is evidenced with the thousands of errors and contradictions, yes, absolutely it's a work of fiction. it's plainly obvious to anyone with an open mind and even a little bit of common sense
"2 first hand witnesses of Jesus"
oh? and you have evidence this was written by the eyewitnesses? You're also trying to prove the bible by using the bible as your sole evidence!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"...argue against the possibility of God"
Again you are trying to put words in my mouth. there's a possibility... it's just unfathomably SMALL. And i've been saying there's ZERO supporting evidence for a creator, let alone your god. I NEVER once said that such a being wasn't possible. however, given that over 10K deities have been worshipped here chances are pretty good IF there was a creator, he wouldn't be the christian god. Given the enormity of the universe, it's a certainty he isnt
lennyhipp 6 months ago
NONSENSE. you CANNOT have scientific theories without facts. They are explanations that explain gathered data (facts). Evolution was established as a fact LONG ago
"you can simply just accept what you do believe in"
no, my beliefs NEVER have to enter into it
"You are just arguing against Christ desire for you"
imbecilic. i doubt very much he existed and i deny that he was a messiah in any case
it gets us nowhere because you have a closed mind and lack an ability to think critically
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"saying I've got no evidence?"
are you trying to imply you DO have evidence? i challenge you to present it
i wouldn't care if you believe in easter bunny, thor, or xenu
"God just wants you to believe in Him"
this is embarrassingly untrue. the buy bull made me an atheist. see v=4qymoktf0wY if the bible was written like this, then EVERYONE would believe in him. instead, he made a piss poor communication, unambiguous and vague as if he didn't want believers! Watch this too: v=3M21xFVwL8c
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"its all up to what we put our faith in"
maybe for you, but i choose to go where the evidence points. i don't let faith enter into the equation.
speaking of resurrections. WHY dont the three oldest manuscripts of the buy bull mention jesus after the supposed ressurrection? WHY was this added several hundred years later?! as if to make it more believable? hmmmmm
"was not written by idiot goat herders"
it absolutely was and reads EXACTLY as if that's what happened. reads like a bronze age text
lennyhipp 6 months ago
now we have to take everything in the buy bull with a grain of salt? the silly things like borne of a virgin, the multiple resurrections, the walking on water, talking snake, living in a whale, the global flood... i should take all of them with a grain of salt too then, right? WHERE does it end?! WHY must everything in it be so vague and open to each individual's interpretation? that's how you read FICTION, not a supposed book of historicity! This is why there's 38K different sects of xtianity
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"and all you can say against the existence of God is that evolution happened on its own"
i never said nor implied this. unlike you, i'm smart enough to know they are NOT mutually exclusive. the fact evolution by natural selection happens (biology) has NOTHING to do with who/when/how/what created the universe (cosmology)
your nonsense about trying to rationalize the buy bull calling the moon a light is called special pleading, you refuse to admit it's quite CLEARLY and DEMONSTRABLY WRONG!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"on the contrary all western science was founded on a belief in God"
you're INSANE. when science pointed to the buy bull being untrue, scientists were convicted of heresy!
"leaving the interpretation of God up to each person"
because science doesnt care! it makes no comment. it functions just the same with or without a god. occam's razor: WHY introduce something into the equation?! Your last comment just reinforces your lack of evidence supporting your belief.
lennyhipp 6 months ago
Typical lying and purposely misquoting asshole douchebag! HOW THE FUCK DOES "it REINFORCES a NATURAL cause for everything" magically transform into "there is a natural cause for everything"!?!!? this is the typical creationist dishonesty that gives ALL christians a bad name!
I NEVER said there was a natural cause for everything, i said that's where the evidence points, and YOU KNOW the difference!
"science was never intended to make people into atheists"
ignorant douche, EVERYONE is born atheist
lennyhipp 6 months ago
*sigh* the onus of evidence is ALWAYS on the one making the claim! ALWAYS! set out to prove santa, the easter bunny, and harry potter aren't real. set out to prove i didn't create the universe complete with false memories the moment you opened your browser. you cannot. it's the same with zeus, xenu, or any other god
"we actually don't know if it is 6,000 years old"
ignorant lie. we know that it's AT LEAST 14BY. we have trees older than 6K, bushes older than 17K. fungus' older than that
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp I know, 6000 years sheeze LOL That means the Babylonians invented beer before the creation of the Earth, what clever fuckers LOL
JesusSuckedGayPenis 4 months ago
"I don't know why there needs to be some kind of endless and pointless battle between atheistic science believers"
woah! "atheistic science believers"? up to 30% of scientists are THEISTS!
"beginning of the universe (Big bang, evolution"
uhhh. big bang = cosmology, evolution = biology. happened nearly nine BILLION years after the big bang!
"The Bible says God made everything"
the bible says a LOT of silly things, doesn't it? resurrections and floods? living in whales for 3 days, talking snakes
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"Yet there is still a blind faith in whatever someone reads in a textbook"
this is just disingenuous. our textbooks contain ZERO blind faith. it's not wild conjecture. . it's the best explanations that we currently have based on obervations, mulitple redundant tests, peer review (many theist scientists included), and the theories are falsifiable and make predictions
"who can't be defeated."
the onus of evidence is on the one making the claim, and you can't even prove he existed let alone a god
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp An inscription found in Northern Israel mentioning King David's dynasty. The inscription is the oldest reference to any Biblical figure outside the Bible. The discovery of an ossuary, a stone box used for retaining bones of the deceased, inscribed with the name of Caiaphas, the high priest who presided over the trial of Jesus shortly before his crucifixion. archaeological evidence that proves the events of the bible, and what the bible says is true
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
"The inscription is the oldest reference to any Biblical figure outside the Bible"
and would prove ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the bible... even if it were true.
Sorry, but there's an agreement amongst biblical scholars, most who are theist... THere quite simply is no supporting evidence that there ever was a King David. Also, does the mention of King's Cross Station (a real train station in london) being mentioned in Harry Potter books, does that mean wizards are real!? this is what you're saying
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp wizards are real? well that would be cool, could explain the rioting and llting, voldemort has returned. There is actualy proof of David existing, in the last 10 years they found his old temple. He was real because when he was alive statues were made for him, which are found to be existing. So people saw him, made statues of him, proved he existed as they saw him, and you say he wasnt real? if he wasnt real then shit loads of people had the same imaginary friend that looked similar
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
@noobsliceinc "wizards are real?"
They have just as much supporting evidence as unicorns, dragons, talking snakes, miracles, people who can walk on water, people who can live inside whales, and as much evidence supporting them as devils, gods, heaven and hell... So if you think wizards might be real, i'm really not at all surprised. Coincidentally, ALL the above things have as much evidence as leprechauns, faeries, griffins, minotaurs, godzilla, the easter bunny, superman and mermaids as well.
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp there are no evidence supporting your claims, there is only 1 god, 1 devil and a heaven and hell, not multiple
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
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@noobsliceinc " there are no evidence supporting your claims"
you fucking moron, i made no claims. I'm prepared to back up anything i say... AND unlike you, i'm prepared to do it with EVIDENCE
"there is only 1 god, 1 devil and a heaven and hell, not multiple"
see? this is what i'm talking about... yet ANOTHER THREE claims you have zero supporting evidence for!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"the last 10 years they found his temple"
they found a small village that COULD be where a kind David might have presided over it's hardly the majestic kingdom the bible describes, also WTF would it matter if David was real? it doesn't magically confirm the events in the bible!
"archaeological evidence that proves the events of the bible"
retardation. So the Iliad mentions both Troy and the Trojan war, by your logic Zeus and Apollo are gods, and Achilles is impervious to harm! you fucking LOON!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp im the fucking loon? your the fucking loon for coming up with illogical nonsense babble. Proving David's existence would disrpove your bullshit about the bible being wrong, there has never been proof of zues and all these other pagan gods, so you trying to link real truth to false shit through science, which has proven events in the bible, against other gods, which have never been proven, and mythical creatures, and theories that have had failed experiments. which is more of a loon?
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
"Proving David's existence would disrpove your bullshit about the bible being wrong"
it would NOT you fucking moron!
"there has never been proof of zues and all these other pagan gods"
and NONE for yours either! Time to wake up and deal with it! I don't see how you cannot wrap your tiny little mind around thisL: you're trying to prove your god is real because there's evidence someone named David MIGHT HAVE BEEN real is the EXACT SAME THING as trying to prove Zeus because Troy is real! DUH!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"which has proven events in the bible against other gods, which have never been proven"
you're a fucking imbecile if you think because your book of fairy tale mentions a real person proves your god is real! Harry Potter mentions Kings Cross Station. Does this mean wizards are real? Shakespeare's plays mention Julias Cesear, does this mean there are witches and ghosts, and that King Lear is real? OF COURSE NOT!
ALL those mythical creatures have JUST AS MUCH evidence as being real as your god does
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp not really, im not sure where ur hate comes from against harry potter, he done nothing to you, stop bringing him up in an argument irrelevant to him, its just pointless and proves that im correct, that your a fucking idiot. And you saying the bible is full of shit and stupid and false is really funny, how i can make scientific claims and u stilldisbelieve it cause science backs me up, and the fact that David existing would disprove ur belief of the bible being false would be null
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
@noobsliceinc <---quite possibly the stupidest person on youtube
"cause science backs me up"
it does the opposite. it shows it to be unreliable and not the word of god. there's ZERO evidence to support the bible is real. ZERO evidence jesus rose from the dead. ZERO evidence the buy bull is what you claim. ZERO evidence that there is ANY god, let alone the christian one.
have a good day
, and the fact that David existing would disprove ur belief of the bible being false would be n
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp it wouldnt disprove my belief at all, as i look up to him, as he had bitches, loads of bitches, and there is oddly enough loads of scientific evidence proving the bible true, and if the bible is true so must the entity that created the people to write it be real. not only archaeological evidence but your astronomy that you love so much (or cosmology) proven an event to be true, not to mention account witnesses and markings about jesus resurrection, his judge was written on his tomb
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
"oddly enough loads of scientific evidence proving the bible true"
ignorant lie and you've failed to provide a shred of evidence to back your nonsense
"if the bible is true so must the entity that created the people to write it be real"
an embarrassing non sequitur, does not follow
stupid douche, there is NO archeological evidence proving the bible true, ZERO evidence that ANYONE let alone jesus was resurrected, and ZERO astronomical evidence supporting it either.
you fail at every level
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp obviously you are ignorant to truth and a fucking dumbass, all you can do is say shit without backup evidence, you say some shit to try and disprove our evidence which was proven WITH science and yet you say SCIENCE is truth, well SCIENCE proved EVENTS in the BIBLE so you would have to believe in the EVENTS of the BIBLE as you are a science whore, archaelogical evidence have proved loads of things in the bible, from moses in egypt to David's "kingdom" or whatever you would call it
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
@noobsliceinc <---argues like a 5 yr old
"say shit without backup evidence"
correction, i've given evidence for EVERYTHING i've said, unlike you
"try and disprove our evidence which was proven"
i did no such thing. i've showed your "evidence" is laughable
"well SCIENCE proved EVENTS in the BIBLE"
you're a FUCKING IDIOT if you believe this. science contradicts the buy bull. heck, your buy bull contradicts itself!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"from moses in egypt to David's "kingdom"
*sigh* here we go again. Because it mentions things or places or people that actually lived DOES NOT magically make everything in it true you fucking unthinking ignorant and gullible fuckwit! Using your fucked up non-existant logic, the fact that King's Cross Station and London are mentioned in Harry Potter proves wizards! The fact that the Illiad mentions Troy and the Trojan war, proves Zeus and Achilles are real! You FUCKING STUPID ignorant douche!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp omg your a fucking idiot, you ARE the biggest dumb cunt i have ever seen. again with this wizard stuff, your fucking stupid beyond recognition, omg J.K Rowling made a made up book about london and kings cross because she frequented there alot and she needed money for petrol, does that mean its real? NO YOU DUMBCUNT. what this archaeological facts does prove is events in the bible is real, and disproves your theory of the whole of the bible being bullshit, so again you carrying on shit
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
@noobsliceinc <-argues like a 4 yr old
" made a made up book about london" <--prove she didn't write from first hand knowledge of wizards. also, i was giving an example of the EXACT SAME KIND of evidence you're using. 2K yrs from now if there's no evidence for JK rowling, and someone reads HP, the fact that it mentions real places in history, proves wizards (using your ignorant logic)
"what this archaeological facts does prove"
it does NO SUCH THING you little retard! Like the Iliad proves ZEUS!
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@lennyhipp oh really? i think ur getting shit mixed up with futurama, it may be funny but because leela stole kids show ideas of wierd ass aliens and sold it, but it doesnt mean you have to take her idea, like she did with them by saying Rowling had real life experience with wizards, if wizards were real and harry potter was made because of personal encounterment they would kill her for trying to make wizards a known race (or whatever).
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
@noobsliceinc Epic fail! LOL
JesusSuckedGayPenis 4 months ago
@lennyhipp but whether you get real evidence for your lovable science still you disbelieve it cause it involves the bible
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
"still you disbelieve it cause it involves the bible"
you complete moron, i disbelieve it because it has ZERO empirical evidence to support the nonsense in it. it's one of the least credible works in all of fiction. because it mentions a real person DOES NOT lend to the credibility that miracles occurred, that half a dozen people were resurrected, that jesus was a messiah, that people can live in whales, that a global flood occurred. Shakespeare's plays mention Cesar. does that make ghosts real?
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@lennyhipp Epic Win! LOL
JesusSuckedGayPenis 4 months ago
@lennyhipp Your vitriol is overwhelming. I'm genuinely concerned you may pass out from rage, please take a breath, friend!
deuteightthree 2 months ago
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"Your vitriol is overwhelming. I'm genuinely concerned you may pass out from rage"
Sad little git, i've lost my temper exactly THREE times in my 45 yrs on this planet. Any more relaxed i'd be dead! What you mistake for rage is pity and contempt for idiots.
lennyhipp 2 months ago
Caiaphas:
from wiki: "Since the original discovery this identification has been challenged by some scholars on various grounds, including the spelling of the inscription, the lack of any mention of Caiaphas's status as High Priest, the plainness of the tomb..., and other reasons"
and wiki gives scholarly sources for this.
EVEN IF there was such a person it DOES NOT make the events in the buy bull true! DUH OF COURSE they'd add real people, to make it more believable and credible
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp are you fucking kidding me? your using wiki as a credible source? so what your saying is the bible uses real events and has official proof to con people into believing it, when there is proof to show its real?
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
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"your using wiki as a credible source?"
NO!!!! you fucking imbecile! i said "wiki gives scholarly sources for this."
typical dishonest creationist. Also, in a study by Oxford Uni, wiki is as accurate as britanica.
"when there is proof to show its real?"
NO you fucking idiot, what i'm saying is the bible writes about SOME events AFTER they happen. This DOES NOT qualify it as ENTIRELY accurate, nor does it make it historically accurate. Illiad mentions Troy. DUH
and it's YOU'RE
lennyhipp 6 months ago
no, i'm accepting the overwhelming empirical evidence supporting them... unlike you who is going on faith alone without a shred of supporting evidence. HUGE F'n difference and how dare you compare the two?
"We are finding more and more everyday with studies in microbiology and archaeology"
yep and add to those geology, paleontology and cosmology... and with each new discovery, it REINFORCES a NATURAL cause for everything, while casting more and more doubt on there being a deity
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp cosmology proved events in the bible were true, NASA watches the stars movements and planet movements, and they decided to reverse it, using all the info it has collected, they got to a time like 3000-4000 years ago where it was sunny in the middle east for 2 whole days (meaning it never went to night). In the bible approx 3000-4000 years ago there was a battle. as long as Moses held up his hands to God they would win, and the Sun stayed on them for 2 days
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
FOOL! first, you should show CREDIBLE evidence for this story. Second, you need to explain HOW THE FUCK this would prove the buy bull is true, and not simply an event written about AFTER it happened. there is a LOT of self-fulfilling "prophecies" in the buy bull. NONE of which proves anything. By using your (dumb) logic, if an even happened today, and i wrote about it in a book, and someone referenced it 2K years from now and could prove it happened, EVERYTHING i wrote about is true?
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@noobsliceinc it sounds like you're referring to this old wive's tale... it's pretty F'n STUPID that anyone would believe this nonsense! snopesDOTcom/religion/lostday.asp
PLEASE show credible evidence to back your claim
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"Just because someone believes in Jesus Christ doesn't mean they don't have a brain"
never said this. although the evidence for him living is very scarce and VERY sketchy at best... but, EVEN IF i grant you that someone named jesus was cruxified 2KYA, it DOES NOT prove ANYTHING in the bible being true! It DOES NOT prove he was borne from a virgin, performed miracles or was resurrected, and most importantly DOES NOT prove he was a messiah!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"What matters is he wrote that God created everything in the universe"
...and this proves exactly nothing. it also talks of unicorns, dragons, and many other silly things. simply stating god created the universe means nothing
"you are continually using scientific evidences to try to disprove the Bible"
bullshit. NOT ONCE have i done this. i said there's ZERO evidence supporting what the buy bull says. huge difference. yes, it can't be done, just like you cannot disprove i created the universe!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"light source to people who didn't know that it reflected the sun's light. "
yeah... kinda like the ignorant goat herders who wrote the buy bull, right? except, it ISNT a light, is it? This is called special pleading. "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also"
nice try. god made two lights. NOT one light and one mirror. The verse also shows the ignorant goat herders who wrote it didn't know the sun is a star
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"Matt 2:23 - happened"
uhh. That's NOT what makes it a failed prophecy, THIS does: " that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene"
SHOW ME WHERE in the OT this prophecy was spoken
SHOW ME the passage in OT that can be attributed to what jesus says in Mat12:5
24:34 Sorry pal, but did you happen to miss the part: "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"!?
"Damascus isn't in ruins, yet"
the generation happened 2K years ago
lennyhipp 6 months ago
pt3)
The Nile river was supposed to dry up
The Canaan language was never spoken in Egypt and is now extinct
Matthew 2:23, 12:5, 24:34
i could go on all day with buy bull errors. Should i continue?
"I'm certain that my faith in the Lord will be even greater"
not if you have an open mind and an ability to think critically, it couldn't possibly be
"BTW Stardust=earth=people"
logical fallacy called special pleading. the ignorant goat herders who wrote the buy bull didn't know our sun is a star!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
Pt 2) Sorry, i don't do PMs... idiot creationists tend to copy and paste tens of thousands of words from moronic creationist websites and expect me to waste time debunking each and every point despite it having been thoroughly rebuked many times before.
More failed prophecies: Abraham's descendents were supposed to be as plentiful as the stars. There's over 100 billion stars in our own galaxy, over 150 billion known galaxies. More stars in the universe than grains of sand on earth
lennyhipp 6 months ago
sure, glad you asked. always happy to elaborate or give evidence for a claim! Where should I start?
The buy bull talks about living in a whale for 3 days. impossible and silly fairy tale. Evidence to back it? Thought so
The buy bull speaks of a global flood that we know for sure didn't happen in the last 100 million years. There's ZERO evidence supporting it. Care to give some?
The buy bull calls the moon a light source, not once but TWICE!
Damascus was never in ruins. should i go on?
lennyhipp 6 months ago
Guglielmucci is a Pastors kid, he misled many people, that is his fault, not his fathers or the church's.
Yes, forgive him, how does it benefit one to keep remember an injustice?
The worship music is still good.
What matters is the congregation keep warm hearts.
Novatene 6 months ago
@Novatene "Yes, forgive him, how does it benefit one to keep remember an injustice?"
yes, forgive him after he spends 5-10 years in prison for theft by deception, right?
"The worship music is still good"
that's very subjective. that can be argued about every single form of music in history... it's irrelevant really
"What matters is the congregation keep warm hearts"
what matters is restitution to the victims. return their money. apologize to each one of them.
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp Hi, he is required to give back what he stole like Gospel characters, but apart from that, forgiveness means letting him go of what he owes that he can't repay. To some the music is ok. I don't like it.
In church, love at heart the objective, to be in true order and for the after life. Not money, it merely serves.
Novatene 6 months ago
@Novatene ...BUT he belongs in jail. He stole (theft by deception) he committed fraud. "Not money, it merely serves." <---but the church is ALL ABOUT money! Tithing anyone?
" to be in true order and for the after life"
but there's no evidence of an after life... he needs to pay for his crimes in THIS life!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@MegaSheepboy this is what's known as special pleading. we're made of "star stuff" not from dirt. Christians are delusional for believing in a god with ZERO supporting empirical evidence. There's SOOOOO MUCH in the christian buy bull that we know for sure isn't true. there's over 1K errors and contradictions, failed prophecies and innaccuracies.
lennyhipp 6 months ago
sorry, not buying your BS. i DID read the buy bull. it's what made me an atheist. the god of the OT is NOT a loving god. it's why early christians HAD to write a new testament... because the god from the OT was such a hateful douche! How about "there most likely isn't a god, and there's zero doubt that IF there was a supreme creator, he could NOT possibly be the god of the christian bible" is that better than "there is no god"? Nothing ignorant about that. What IS ignorant is blind faith
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp im not sure if you realise this, but scientific shit about evolution and the age of the world is a load of crap, you dont believe in a god because "whackjobs" made the bible, yet you believe whackjobs who fail at the experiments to disprove God and prove the big bang theory. what is more stupid? science has actually proven many things correct in the bible, NASA even did an experiment on the stars, and thousands of years ago it was found it was sunny 2 full days, this was in the bible
noobsliceinc 6 months ago
"yet you believe whackjobs who fail at the experiments to disprove God"
you stupid ignorant fuck, no scientist has EVER tried to disprove god because:
1)proofs do NOT exist outside the maths and NOTHING is ever proven or disproven with science
2)scientists are smart enough to know that the onus of evidence is ALWAYS on the one making the claim!
Using your retarded logic, if i claim i kept a 10,000 headed invisible purple leprechaun in a box under my bed, it would be up to YOU to prove i didn't!
lennyhipp 6 months ago
"what is more stupid?"
the buy bull and people who believe silly fairy tales without a shred of evidence supporting them, or heavily scrutinized theories, passing peer review and utilizing the scientific method by the smartest minds on the planet? is this a serious question?!
if evolution was a load of crap, it wouldnt be a theory dumbass, and it certainly wouldn't be the foundation of modern biology!
"science has actually proven many things correct in the bible"
bullshit retardation. Evidence?
lennyhipp 6 months ago
@lennyhipp addendum to my previous statement.
It actually can be argued that the buy bull is the single most UN-scientific book in the history of fiction, so contrary to your claim: NOTHING is ever proven, (or disproven) but there is a LOT of things that science has shown to be false about your bronze age fairy tale, and nothing shown to be scientifically correct about it that wasn't already general knowledge at the time.
lennyhipp 6 months ago
jail would be a good start for faud
cackles68 6 months ago
@MegaSheepboy So are you talking about aliens cause thats a more probably reality,If there is a creator it would be just that as we may be part of a science experiment or does that just sound crazy to you?Life may be that of alien origin but the universe noThe.Large Hadron Collider answers more than enough questions about the birth in the universe.You should read about the Danes and there quest to make life from chemicals ala' primordial soup theory.I'm confident that the theories will be proven
suttercain666 7 months ago
@MegaSheepboy If I shaved my head and proclaimed that I had cancer and defrauded people for that nature and in time I was found guilty I would be incarcerated no if,and's or but'ss about it.Sorry won't save your ass.But this pastor michael what does he get?Piss all!!He should be thrown in the slammer along with all the other scammers like Hinn and Popoff.One would have to be a fool to believe in morons like this.Question is how do they get away with it?It is a crime and proper punishment is due.
suttercain666 7 months ago
@MegaSheepboy I liked to know how you think that my lifestyle is so selfish as you know fuck all about me.I consider myself to have been lucky enough to have parents that didn't feed my head full of dreadful religious nonsense.I was given the choice.I grew up fine it wasn't a perfect enviroment(alcoholism) but the world isn't perfect and I except that.But I sure as shit wouldn't pull a stunt like pastor micheal did,he knew exactly what he was doing and who he was doing it to.
suttercain666 7 months ago
@MegaSheepboy The oceans were formed from comets entering the earth not a magic man waving his hands.The universe is endless and is not responsible from a so called god from a book called the bible or koran.Think about how foolish that sounds.The universe is much more complicated than that of the words of a fairytale book.You can't convince from passages read from the bible so don't try to use that as factual information cause it doesn't stand.Look up earth wikipedia it says nothing about god.
suttercain666 7 months ago
@MegaSheepboy I don't blame god as there is no such thing.An accusation against a manifestation is in the realm of someone who is crazy and I am not that but you are questionable. And yes modern science does dissprove a great deal of the bible so don't make up your own facts unless you have thoroughly researched it.It's all there.The earth wasn't created in 7 days.The earth is 4.5 million years old and has been through a series of changes in those years bringing on lanscape and life.
suttercain666 7 months ago
Also I am not closed minded I just know the difference between fantasy and reality.I don't want nor need to join and cult or be any part of any religious organization that uses fear and hope as a means to draw money or corrupt children mentally and sexually.Really when you think about it the Nazi's can't hold a candle to all the religious atrocities over the centuries.Can't wave a nazi flag around but a crucifix is ok?
suttercain666 7 months ago
Imagine a "quite agressive form of cancer" where you are still alive and robust even after 2 years, how stupid must his family be if they didn't know.
makemarker 7 months ago
Lol Christians are so gullible, wake the
Fuck up people there's no cosmic Jewish zombie out there :)
mrhattttttt 7 months ago
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How many people of us have lied???.....I bet all of us have...And when it comes to lies we all know that it has a snow ball effect.....To cover up one lie we have to tell a hundred lies....At least God gave Michael Guglielmucci the courage to come out and say the truth and take the embarrassment and shame of it rather coming out and say God cured him......God truly did heal him in a way!.....Praise God, and take a moment to examine you own heart rather than judging someone else's
jkmartynable 7 months ago
@jkmartynable why did god make him an habitual masturbator in the first place?
gunfiremessiah 2 months ago
@gunfiremessiah Good question. Like his masturbating was so bad that he was vomiting in buckets and pulling his hair out. But Ps Mike was listening to the trumpet of Jesus while the world heard a different sound. Ps Mike was strumming to a different beat. He had his own rhythm.
MrILYJesus 2 months ago
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jkmartynable 7 months ago
you are forgivin. :)
pam413 7 months ago
Go Pastor Michael Guglielmucci! you have the courage to own up to stand up for what you know is right, now U can live a life that the darkness cannot attack. it's hard for us. we are not saints, but we can still make choices after mistakes :) Go Pastor Michael Guglielmucci! I really believe you can overcome! I believe in you llike God does!
JaZTame 7 months ago
Though he is human like us all, what about those that really struggle with this evil disease? Its just sickening that someone would do this.
180surrender 8 months ago
Perfect for Hillsong!! An organisation that loves conning people!!!! Yay!!!
energylots 8 months ago
Fuck this idiot he's nothing but a fuck'n' loser who used cancer as a motive to scam money out of his brain washed/brain dead followers to fund his porn habit..It must be nice to know he was jerk'n' off all of your money.But forgiveness is the christain way.. I guess that would be the same forgivenes given if he raped a poor helpless child in the ass.And don't pretend that doesn't happen.Stupid bible humpers.
suttercain666 8 months ago 13
@suttercain666 Critise ALL you want but until you have an Encouter with God, You'll never Understand what forgiveness or Grace is...Just Saying...
And If you think were brainwashed, look at the media today and how music& fashion litreally Run people's Lives.....
vanessa1992 8 months ago
@vanessa1992 OK until I have an encounter with god?We are god we created and made up the term god.There are many gods so which god do speak of?Try to sum it up to me and have me convinced that there is a god?Show me proof.Tell me about the endlessness of space and the more then probable existence of life in the galaxy and tell me about their god.Tell me about about the 150 million years that dinosaurs ruled the earth.To many questions not enough answers.
suttercain666 8 months ago
@suttercain666 Believing in God is something totally different than proving that He exists. And you if someone wants to encounter with God, he has to open his heart. And I cant prove to you that God exists, but I can tell I've seen miracles that tell me He exists. But to look at it from a different perspective, you can't prove He doesn't exists as well. And I know there are many questions and not enough answers and believe me I have a lot of questions as well, but God can't be explained.
robinvbx 8 months ago
@robinvbx God was born in the pages of the bible and the so called geniuses who wrote it,not god writing it.The bible has been debunked over and over again but yet common sense tends to turn a blind eye to this reality.This whole can't see it but it's there 'though he shows no existence he exists sounds like a childs imagination at work..Do you know anything about about modern day science,do you even pay attention to it?Do you believe the earth is 10,000 years old?
suttercain666 8 months ago
@suttercain666 I can understand that you see it that way and I have to admit that with today's science things like believing the bible and in God are very hard. But still I believe He exists and following him is not easy I can tell. But if you don't believe in God than how do you see miracles that happen? And once more, I'm not trying to prove to you that God exists, because that's not what believing in God is about. And I can't prove you it, especially if you don't open your heart for Him.
robinvbx 8 months ago
@robinvbx Miracles?Benny Hinn he's a non stop miracle machine.It's a load of crap.Hinn and the others like him are nothing but criminals.A miracle is just a term meaning" beat the odds",no god magic or fantasy crap involved.The problem is the lack of proper education about religion and it's myths and cult obsessivness.Chirdren are the prime targets of religion because they are impressionable,easily trained.Kids need science and reasonable explanation not man made manifestaion.
suttercain666 8 months ago
@robinvbx I am far more intelligent than to resort myself to something so transparent as religion as my heart only goes to my family and friends,not god or jesus or what ever made up characters are going for the week.With the rapid growth of technology the truth of our existance is only a stone throw away and the bible will soon be put in the fiction section of the library where it should be.
suttercain666 8 months ago
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@suttercain666 "F****"? You express hatred? Why such a philosophy? Why does your imagination or memory produce thoughts thoughts of helpless children being raped?
Bible quoters, have IQs presently beyond genii. Writing full answers from the view point of Molecular Biologists ... to Dawkins... There are Christian doctor associations, from there comes the ethical scientists and the next generation of researchers.
Jesus the Christ came to heal the indignity of rape and teach and empower change
Novatene 6 months ago