"Whenever someone publishes a picture of an atom or an array of atoms and talks about beads swirling around, you should ask them whether they are still in kindergarten. The ridiculous Rutherford and Bohr planetary models have been categorically debunked. These models are used today to teach kindergarten children about the wonders of the atom. The model college level people are supposed to be using is the more accurate valence shell model."
Ok you're probably tired of me but more needs to be said.
Is there an actual packet of material being transported, or is it a traveling deformation artifact like a wave on water? I guess the jury is still out, and the video doesn't help.
Eienstein said as an object goes faster time slows down AND becomes smaller also. If so, could a "photon" encompass an entire universe within, were it to slow down? Can we slow down photons? Just imagine, making a new universe appear from nowhere!!!! :-)
Lastly, I think its clear there is some sort of radiation surrounding the "electron," but it leaves me wondering what kind, are we looking at a particle's effects? Or are we looking at a particle-free deformation of the "ether?"
Like the motions of air as if we simulate blowing a smoke ring, where a bit of the air itself is moving... or is it a uniquely different material, as would be the case should we blow an ACTUAL smoke ring as from a cigarette.
If they are correct with that statement, then ELECTRONS are transported from one place to another when we shine a flashlight on something. Fine, if photons and electrons are in fact the same material.
If photons are DIFFERENT entities, and like bullets they can dislodge electrons from an atom, ok fine. But to then state electrons ride on top of that bullet, that's going too far. I don't see the connection.
Perhaps there's no deformation, as there is no stimulus to cause one. They need two sets of images taken from different angles so they can create a 3D representaion. Also, I wish they'd explain "riding on a light wave."
I think they may be extrapolating wildly in making that statement. If a photon and the electron are one and the same sort of entity, ok fine, but I think "riding" on a wave of photons is uncertain at best.
From what I read about the imaging process, this is a image OVERLAY of multiple "weak" images, all at the same instant in time to make a single stronger image.
If the movie represents a time series, they should have stated as much. The fluctuations could be a photographic anomaly caused by the equipment. I find it most remarkable that the waves are fixed in shape and not deformed (compressed or stretched) like the magnetic lines of a magnet would be.
Perhaps we see two semicircular shapes because the head on portion remains unseen just as the image of a clear glass sphere is invisible at its center, expressed in two dimensios just like iron filing patterns on paper surrounding a magnet. The up and down "motion" may be an anomaly from the imaging process. Yet there is a very strange polar inconsistency. Hmmm...
Lol, an electron is a subatomic particle (it's located in the atom outside of the nucleus in all matter). It's a negatively charged particle that kinda orbits around the nucleus of the atom. Research it further if you wish, and if you're interested, check out quantum mechanics and that sort of thing.
Well...think about it this way: atoms are what make up all matter in the universe; atoms make up you, me, the desk, everything in the universe (even a ray of light). Subatomic particles are the stuff that make up the atom: there's a nucleus in the center, and electrons surrounding it. In the video, the electrons (I believe) are the blue things that form something like an eclipse around the black center. There are also quarks, which make up the protons, neutrons, and electrons.
The movie shows how an electron rides on a light wave after just having been pulled away from an atom. This is the first time an electron has ever been filmed, and the results are presented in the latest issue of Physical Review Letters.
"It takes about 150 attoseconds for an electron to circle the nucleus of an atom. An attosecond is 10-18 seconds long, or, expressed in another way:
Electrons challenge our definitions of velocity, time and space by violating them. Electrons are mysterious to us as the stars were to prehistoric man.
the problem is, even though there are fancy mathematics to describe the BEHAVIOR of things the numbers do not tell us anything about the NATURE of things, which is why we end up with stupid terms like 'particle wave'.
below the (seemingly) ordered world of atoms, electrons, protons and neutrons it's all very WEIRD indeed.
Actually electrons were filmed with x-rays with better time resolution in 2004. See P. Abbamonte, Phys. Rev. Lett., 92, 237401 (2004)
CeilLiza 4 months ago
fair play for putting a strobe light under a blancket and filming it or something similar
cludo88 1 year ago
Someone said:
"Whenever someone publishes a picture of an atom or an array of atoms and talks about beads swirling around, you should ask them whether they are still in kindergarten. The ridiculous Rutherford and Bohr planetary models have been categorically debunked. These models are used today to teach kindergarten children about the wonders of the atom. The model college level people are supposed to be using is the more accurate valence shell model."
Yahoo the whole text cause google lies.
seyoumeye 2 years ago
16,000 views?!? OMG
phlezk 3 years ago
READ THIIS?!!
i heard that theres a theory out there that state that the universe we belong to is no more than the electron of an atom...is this possibly true?
stfuuuuuuuuu 3 years ago
no... it goes farther than that. Look up string theory.
galaticgoddess 3 years ago
Ok you're probably tired of me but more needs to be said.
Is there an actual packet of material being transported, or is it a traveling deformation artifact like a wave on water? I guess the jury is still out, and the video doesn't help.
Eienstein said as an object goes faster time slows down AND becomes smaller also. If so, could a "photon" encompass an entire universe within, were it to slow down? Can we slow down photons? Just imagine, making a new universe appear from nowhere!!!! :-)
Peopleunit 3 years ago
PS - In any event, its an interesting movie, thanks. I wish You Tube would allow longer comments!!
End :-)
Peopleunit 3 years ago
Lastly, I think its clear there is some sort of radiation surrounding the "electron," but it leaves me wondering what kind, are we looking at a particle's effects? Or are we looking at a particle-free deformation of the "ether?"
Like the motions of air as if we simulate blowing a smoke ring, where a bit of the air itself is moving... or is it a uniquely different material, as would be the case should we blow an ACTUAL smoke ring as from a cigarette.
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Peopleunit 3 years ago
If they are correct with that statement, then ELECTRONS are transported from one place to another when we shine a flashlight on something. Fine, if photons and electrons are in fact the same material.
If photons are DIFFERENT entities, and like bullets they can dislodge electrons from an atom, ok fine. But to then state electrons ride on top of that bullet, that's going too far. I don't see the connection.
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Peopleunit 3 years ago
Perhaps there's no deformation, as there is no stimulus to cause one. They need two sets of images taken from different angles so they can create a 3D representaion. Also, I wish they'd explain "riding on a light wave."
I think they may be extrapolating wildly in making that statement. If a photon and the electron are one and the same sort of entity, ok fine, but I think "riding" on a wave of photons is uncertain at best.
(Comment continued in next post)
Peopleunit 3 years ago
From what I read about the imaging process, this is a image OVERLAY of multiple "weak" images, all at the same instant in time to make a single stronger image.
If the movie represents a time series, they should have stated as much. The fluctuations could be a photographic anomaly caused by the equipment. I find it most remarkable that the waves are fixed in shape and not deformed (compressed or stretched) like the magnetic lines of a magnet would be.
(Comment continued in next post)
Peopleunit 3 years ago
Perhaps we see two semicircular shapes because the head on portion remains unseen just as the image of a clear glass sphere is invisible at its center, expressed in two dimensios just like iron filing patterns on paper surrounding a magnet. The up and down "motion" may be an anomaly from the imaging process. Yet there is a very strange polar inconsistency. Hmmm...
(Comment continued in next post)
Peopleunit 3 years ago
what is this? what's an electron? and what's so special about it?
OnsetFilms 4 years ago
Lol, an electron is a subatomic particle (it's located in the atom outside of the nucleus in all matter). It's a negatively charged particle that kinda orbits around the nucleus of the atom. Research it further if you wish, and if you're interested, check out quantum mechanics and that sort of thing.
bluesmurf1313 4 years ago
now i have more question. lol. what is subatomic particle? what's an atom? hahaha. sorry. i'm so dumb when it comes to this stuff. :)
OnsetFilms 4 years ago
Well...think about it this way: atoms are what make up all matter in the universe; atoms make up you, me, the desk, everything in the universe (even a ray of light). Subatomic particles are the stuff that make up the atom: there's a nucleus in the center, and electrons surrounding it. In the video, the electrons (I believe) are the blue things that form something like an eclipse around the black center. There are also quarks, which make up the protons, neutrons, and electrons.
bluesmurf1313 4 years ago
...atoms do NOT compose light.
Light rays are PHOTONS, which are subatomic. which are both waves and particles at the same time.
inthefade 4 years ago
My bad! I meant to say particles =D Thanks for catching me there man.
bluesmurf1313 4 years ago
The movie shows how an electron rides on a light wave after just having been pulled away from an atom. This is the first time an electron has ever been filmed, and the results are presented in the latest issue of Physical Review Letters.
"It takes about 150 attoseconds for an electron to circle the nucleus of an atom. An attosecond is 10-18 seconds long, or, expressed in another way:
junglelord 4 years ago 3
you mean "10^-18" seconds long.
inthefade 4 years ago
willzyx23 bravo hehehe
mishkalaka 4 years ago
Electrons challenge our definitions of velocity, time and space by violating them. Electrons are mysterious to us as the stars were to prehistoric man.
maeon3 4 years ago 3
Ok, i understand what an electron is, but what am i seeing here?
pathseen21 4 years ago
an electron.
kleash 4 years ago
lol
Popper818 4 years ago
its a particle wave, or wave particle.
the problem is, even though there are fancy mathematics to describe the BEHAVIOR of things the numbers do not tell us anything about the NATURE of things, which is why we end up with stupid terms like 'particle wave'.
below the (seemingly) ordered world of atoms, electrons, protons and neutrons it's all very WEIRD indeed.
poidol 4 years ago
It's the most beautiful thing i've ever seen (well, besides this flying plastic bag i saw once)
willzyx23 4 years ago 13
can someone please explain what i see here, i am not that good with physics
willzyx23 4 years ago
An electron, one of the fundamental particles that make up our universe and cannot be split up into other smaller particles.
guruwUrU 4 years ago 2
unless you split it up into 3 quarks.
akulkis 4 years ago
uhhhhhhhh
dooom560 4 years ago
.....yeah.
abc123jan 4 years ago