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  • Engeming part?

  • WARNING.. SPOILER...!!1!

    This dude thought the game would end, in 2009, so has not patch, or date, labeled his video...Geeezz.. /sigh... So this guide is COMPLETELY useless, if you survived 2010, and wanted to see how to play feral tank.. :P

  • fuck utube advertising BTW

  • @Ciderhelm How much dmg does your armor reduces?

  • does anyone know what unitframes he uses?

  • be sure to check out ZybakTV's channel for more recent Feral PvP videos. He makes new videos all the time.

  • warrior tanks are easy to keep threat bears isnt i cant keep threat i need help

  • @NaRuToCrUsHeR Use your roar etc abilities all the time. Also, I've seen that dps's these days are really cocky and pulls alot and casts aggro-magnetic spells.

  • @NaRuToCrUsHeR Have a rogue or hunter transfer threat to u and get a good weap.

  • its funny i played this game for a month and was a shaman but i made a druid recently and looked up a video think i could understand what they would be talking about and that was really confusing for a new player such as me. You need to cut down to the basics and not to much details. other then that very good guide hopefully ill understand it one day lol.

  • My brain hurts now..

  • why not use maul, really now, I always use it

  • all your gear is stam-gemmed?

  • @rocflpn08 Zerging stamina is only for those that are very quickly progressing through new content, like the guild "Paragon".

  • this isnt the new patch sooooooo...

  • hey! whats the addon you have . the words look really comic-y and it shows around ure instead of being in the middle.

    thanks

  • you all do know this was posted about a year a go right?

  • Note to self: Do not look for anymore bear tank vids on youtube. Wait, I thought I already decided pretty much every WoW video on youtube is terrible. Right.

  • hahaha maul is not a heroic strike anymore moron

    wow i never thought a tankspot video would be full os so much wrong information

    ya keep demo roar up on single target sure thing ill get right on that it just makes so much logical sense its blowing my mind

  • @BCt0xiN ......your....mentally challenged? "haha maul is not a heroic strike anymore moron" Well, yeah i doubt they are unaware of this. Check the posted date that will blow your mind. You friggin idiot.

  • @BCt0xiN cheack the date idiot

  • It's raging me how this well laid out informative video is 6 or 7 spots down the search for "4.0 bear tank." Above it is some immature female whining that "6second swipe is PUSHING IT" and that the bear changes "didnt quite pull through for her"

    Please go flame her video and tell her to remove it so actual informative videos like this come up first.

  • wow... complicated... i just do...

    multiple targets: use macro'd swipe + maul, tab between targets making sure maul's debuff is up on all targets, demo roar at some point, mangle or even lacerate, if a dps is gaining on threat on any target you tab between, keep faery fire and taunt ready incase threat is lost, which shouldnt happen

    single: faery fire for instant threat, have maul + mangle macro ready, stack 5 lacerates while you spam maul and mangle on every cooldown, keep lacerate up

  • omen of clarity is a cat/boom/tree talent. bears attack way to slow. and if rage is a issue you are prolly over geared.

  • i got a tank druid with 5.4k gs and 45k health. But sometimes i have shit aggro. i mean it's not possible to keep aggro on multiple mobbs. any advise there? mabye gem agi or expertise?

  • @limahl123123 the answer depends on what classes are pulling off of you. if its ret palys that have vindication, the debuff they apply will reduces AP alot more than Demo Roar and they hit pretty hard. Nothing you can do about this except to let them know they are fail for having that talent. If its mages pulling from AOEs then maybe you need glyph of maul. I cant groups well with my raid spec. Just tab thru and hit them all individually.

  • @skylerruin Okei fair enough. But you got advise on what kind of gear i shoul use? like i have now some gear thats for prot pala,warr and dk. With strength, defence rating and stuff. it's the gear with most stamina and gives dodge rating aswell. Would you go for it? im not sure if that what i really should use :)

  • @limahl123123 i dont know how you will wear plate but you want leather that has more stam than agi. If it has more stam than agi it will usualy have these secondary stats: Haste, Expertise, Hit and Dodge. If the gear has any of these on it then its tank gear. But since Improved leader of the pack heals for % of total hp u want gear with most stam possible. Gem for stam only. Use one dodge+stam gem to get meta gem bonus. Also get Pvp enchant for helm and shoulders that has stam and resilience

  • @limahl123123

    personally if it's with multiple targets you have trouble with, i recommend macro-ing maul and swipe together, and use that button as you tab between the multiple targets, make sure you know which target the DPS will be burning down, which is usually the casters, make sure you have glyph of maul too

    that seems to work fine for me, but i'm level 72, so it might change at 80 xD

  • good video this helps me out a lot. Thanks!

  • Dude just enter with swipe, While you press swipe keep maul up and keep doing the same thing if you lose aggro use growl or feral fearie.. You can use lacerate on trash but you just wasting rage. I use lacerate + mangle on bosses so dps can do more dps without tanking my aggro out

  • ahahha

  • What addon is it that show what abillity u should use next time?

    It seems awesome. The guide is a big help for me that just have start tank as druid

  • What´s the name of the addon in the middle of the screeen(Shows what ability to use)?

  • Mangle shouldnt be first, Maul Swipe FTW

  • @TheMinigiant mangle increases the dmg of maul and lacerate so it should be first. it also has the longest CD. u dont want to put yur CD spells at the end. Do u think ret palys put divine storm at the end of there rotation ? indeed, that would be moronic.

  • Threat rly isnt a issue in WoTLK..

    the chance someone can take agro from a tank is rly LOW!

    you are making things sound so difficult, but it isnt..

  • @vuniqirinor Bull shit, obviously you don't play enough to know.....

  • @kny4eva

    Exp ICC 25 Hc 11/12

    Don't worry I know...

  • @vuniqirinor My bad, i just find it a lil hard keeping aggro as a feral druid

  • @vuniqirinor

    Have a 6k Hunter and Rogue go against a 5.5k Bear Tank, and they don't use MD/FD or ToT, they will EASILY take aggro.

  • i just smash my fist on the key board while tanking occasionaly i have to chase a button that pops off but it works fine for me

  • @zackari must be an o shit button

  • #showtooltip /cast Mangle (Bear)(Rank 5) /cast !Maul #showtooltip /cast Swipe (Bear)(Rank 8) /cast !Maul #showtooltip /cast Lacerate() /cast !Maul These make life so much easier, instead of having to spam your maul button all the time and like he says in the video u need a good weapon
  • @connorkwl n lacerate together is fuckin nice for single target not mobs really if u need to los a mob ff works brilliant then start spamin maul n swipe get the glyph of maul so ur maul hits 2 instead of one n tab maul after ur maul goes of while still spamin swipe on mobs figure ur own way out to do it bud but on mobs just spam sipe n tab maul n on single maul macroed with lacerate mangle and ff othr ways 2 do it but tht is howi basically do it n i never lose aggro well when i had gear lol

  • @connorkwl i got hacked my druid reall dnt have to much tankin gear right now or my dk lol but eyesred us server lethon look at my spec new spec i just tryed out before i got hacked on the 15th of this month but it works pretty good i might mess round with it agin though idk best thing to do for a begging bear tank in my opion differnt for every one though is hit maul then charge them single or mob pulls then ff right after n get ur lacerate up on singl mobs just spam swipe n maul get maul glyph

  • I'm new to all of this animal stuff...

    I have a DK tank, this seems a lot harder,

    help anyone? lol,

  • @connorkwl Start by watching this video - oh wait, you did. Delete your account if you can't understand this.

  • @Williamf1337 this didn't show any basics and I didn't find it helpful, troll.

  • Great guide what is that addon u use in middle of screen for your mangle/ff cds?

  • I just hit enrage, and hit the button swipe is on really fast.

  • @naverevsnothing bear tanking is not the easiest dk tankin is i have both but if u no how to play ur toon and keep ur tps up bear tankin is very easy just got to pratice at it

  • Anyone know what is UnitFrames?

    

  • Amazing guide. very helpfull. I have been using a /castsequence macro for that imp mangle, and I generate about 11k tps, but that is not basing it off that 1 second trap GCD. I am now using the Non Improved mangle rotation, only thing I change is I start out with a FFF at range, Charge in, And then start the rotation using mangle, Lacerate, lacerate, Swipe, mangle, FFF, lacerate lacerate lacerate, Mangle, FFF. All of that is bound with a Maul ofcourse. it is not generateing 15k tps in ICC25

  • My main is a druid and although I find this guide complete, it is in my opinion overly complicated. You can do your tanking duty without coodinating abilities down to the second.

  • @MathieuVIII but in hc modes it is helpful heeh

  • Anyone else hate this guys' voice? A lot?

    

  • i hate how tankspot makes there videos so uptight and "perfect" can u guys lighten up a bit and try to make this fun, its a game and u guys r acting like ur trying to teach us how to invest

  • @MrShadowkid95 It's informative, not fun. Think of it as a documentary.

  • @MrShadowkid95 some might like serius raiding and not raiding with alot of kids born 1995 that whipes your raid :)

  • @MrShadowkid95 true!

  • @MrShadowkid95 Lol I actually prefer it for some reason.

  • @MrShadowkid95 I'd rather see a sense of professionalism, it lets you know that you're taking reasonable talants that will improve your gameplay, thus bringing more enjoyment to your play-time.

  • Will tanking be easy when i get better gear? Cues i have 3754 in gearscore and i cant acully hold aggro so good..

  • @Chrillelundgren Yes, that is true for all tanks, but bears in particular. As a bear you share alot of armor with rogues/kitty druids that has arm pen and ap on it, both of which are key aggro stats. The biggest threat boost, however, is always a better weapon. I noticed a significant damage/threat boost when I upgraded my level 200 Staff of trickery from VH heroic to a level 251 Staff of Glacial Rot from festergut in 10 man.

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  • you should only spec 2 into imp mangle btw

  • what addon is that that displays the yellow rage points?

  • thx

  • confuzed already -.- the rotations is so hard

  • i just realized, since when are you alli? i remember you being a tauren

  • @Maghlenn3295 He made this video a long time ago, his guild switched to horde after this video.

  • I like 5:14

  • Ur video's spec sucks man. That's a noob's talent tree.

  • i hear durid is storng... confirm?

  • If you're having threat problems, I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems, and threat ain't one

  • @d4679 Jay z much? :P

  • I have 2 say that love ur voice it´s realy nice 2 lisntning on and my i have learn to keep agg much better after i saw this movie. TY

  • WTB better sound I have it up to full blast and I still can't really hear

  • Stuck with my 226 Journey's End.. Killing my TPS :-( ICC25 tonight hopefully Distant Land drops. :)

  • Omfg someone update a real exact guide ? this guide is so outdated and false

  • can someone tell me the script for the macro he has set up

  • Update please ... patch 3,3 changed lots of things

  • welli got a lvl 72 druid and have lvled him from 27-72 in like 4 days prob my fastest record personaly , the rotation seems to b pretty well for aoeing just spam swipe imo but im going to try an acual rotation even tho it seems its not nessesary atm for just normal dungeons

  • @calibor11 dont just spam swipe always have maul up when pullin groups and have farie fire on ur current target also have the glyph of maul that lets u hit 2 targets wih maul.

  • Since WotLK Launch; Stack stam, no rage talents like omen of clarity and this rotation...

    /startattack

    /castsequence reset=target Mangle (Bear)(), Faerie Fire (Feral), Lacerate, Lacerate, Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate, Faerie Fire (Feral), Lacerate, Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate, Lacerate, Lacerate

    /cast Maul

    /cancelaura Hand of Protection

  • what do most tanks stack? stamina... stamina... stamina...

  • maul does not have exactly the same mechanics as heroic strike for warrior tanking, yes you do lose your rage gained from white damage but keep in mind you will gain 5 rage if it crits, and seeing as how your crit chance should be massive compared to other tanks its fairly reliable that you will crit with maul

    therefore it can be somewhat compared to heroic strike but it is still MUCH more efficient with your rage in comparison

  • so what stats should i stack as a feral tank

  • Right now I am working on getting better at tanking in bear form. I'm getting closer to getting the gear I need. My main problem is I can't hold aggro. I'm assuming this is due to the fact that someone in my group has more threat than me or are able to pull them off me. I found this video helpful and I'm going to continue practicing to bear tank. Thank you!

  • hehe hvis du er dansker burde du se den med danske undertekster det er ret grinern

  • Jkk

  • and can you show me how you do the macro?? :)

  • what gems and glyph should i use??

  • what addons is that shows the attack you should use (in the middle of the screen)

  • what macro? i dont see a god dam macro.

  • If only that fucking lupines longstaff would drop...

  • I was doing that rotation but it dint really help me with big mobs, can you help me do something for big mobs?

  • Kepp Maul up and spam swipe

  • What did you do to get the box that helps u with your rotation aka the small box in mid of his screen that changes with his cd's

  • What is the name of the addon that shows what his stat increases are for agi, haste, and arm pen when he's showing his weapons?

  • That came with one of the new patchs i think

  • @schmuckenheimer9 could be rawr

  • Whats ur UI?? :)

  • Can u put up the talent build

  • Demo roar should not be the first thing you apply unless you actually have a good shot at dying off the bat. If thats the case, you probably shouldn't be tanking that boss, because you're undergeared. Do the high threat first, and once everything is up, roar.

  • @KrmtDfrog no but its going to help the healers

  • @hudders123 If your healers are that worried about ~500 melee damage, then they probably shouldn't be healing that encounter. Look, it's fine to have up. It's less important than Lacerate x5, Mangle or Faerie Fire.

  • @KrmtDfrog true

  • This man speaks the truth.

  • Whats the addon for showing the attacks which to use? The small cube in his screen, around the middle of his screen..

  • anyone know what unit frame he is using

  • where are you play ? server name pls :)

  • blackdragonflight, look them up on amory

  • IN the start you attacking the training mob, what addon do you have when you spell com down.. - Compat -453 mana..?

  • if this is part one of the feral Druid guide then where is part 2?

  • @3:45 he said, maul "is a threat dump." I think he meant rage dump, right?

  • yes

  • swipe does 1.5% threat....thats it?!

  • No.. 150%

  • @ARKTNA No he means the threat is multiplied by 1.5, so that's like 50% extra threat over a normal attack.

  • @MetalHairRuler becauseinfected wounds slows down enemy attack speed by 20% it is a useful tool in increasing your survivability so i think it is worth it

  • ive been wondering about Infected Wounds... is it viable in today's content? Does the 20% extra time between your enemy's swing actually make a difference? Was thinking about switching 3 points from Improved mangle to Infected Wounds. But idk

  • is this rotation for single targets if it is can anyone give me tips for aoe tanking?

  • swipe

  • swipe + glyphed maul

  • Maul is a threat dump, really only meant to pick up your aggro on top of that when you begin to spam maul you will begin to lose more rage than you are gaining back and going thru all your other rotations you dnt have time to hit maul

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  • i'm nearly always maxed out on rage, sooo, does it really matter that maul costs more than 10 rage?

  • Any chance you can post that Macro you where useing ??

  • i dont get why he doesnt use maul?

  • Are you deaf? Maul is like heroic strike, you queue it with other abilities to generate more threat per special ability used.

  • He's not using it because he'd run out of rage on a test dummy, he's still telling u to use it as much as possible on a boss

  • How do you make dat 1 macro button And you press it on and on you get mangle mangle lacerate ferier fire mangle How ?

  • great guide, great video - tks man.

  • Itz a idol that procs bonus agility there are different ones dont kno which one he has

  • If you want a tip, never pull with growl. Ever. Always use FF and you've then got your growl off CD if a mob runs for someone in your group. Just something I find handy when I tank. ^_~

  • I don't get this its WAY to complicated...

  • Im a lvl 64 druid tank and every time we run ramps this fucking dps dk always pulls more aggro then me for some reason and he is 1 lvl down mine. WHAT CAN I DO TO PULL MORE AGGRO THEN HIM PLEASE LET ME KNOW?

  • Mark the mobs maybe?

  • im not an expert but my main is a 74 druid, when i tank i use feirie fire (feral) ALOT, also i rotate through each mob and apply one lacerate. it works for me. but there's always gonna be aggro whores out their... like mages.

  • @shikkahn FIRE MAGES ARE AGGRO BITCHESS!!!!!!!!

  • watch this video about 10 times.

  • @gmlgm, Tell him to turn Frost Presence off. xD

  • I'm afraid you have to be level 80, really. Druid tanks get a LOT better at the cap... Obviously.

  • @gmlgm Do like a Warrior tank does. I always tell people to hold off on DPS till I have 3 "Sunder Armor (Devastate)" up, This is a rotate for me of Devastate/Revenge/Shild Slam. So for you I would tell them to wait till you have 3 Lacerate up. This gives you time to get a high threat.

  • Dps should let you gain initial threat and rage. It happens unfortunatly :( Most dps nuke as soon as you pull which sucks for warriors and bears

  • yes it is, and it drops off the confesor

  • hey im going feral tank and im already an epic healerso im just going around in groups saying "im only taking feral tank gear, and if u dont let me then u can look for another healer who can actually not fail and can down the confessor for the next half hour :) "

    so of course every1 agrees (on my server its hard to find a tank or heals who wants to do a dungeun and didnt just hit lvl 80 5mins ago...) and today i got marrow strike :) and im wondering... what should i enchant on it... plz reply.

  • Trashbags.

  • Ive found mongoose to be an absolute waiste as druid...it procsnowhere near as often as a class that swings a weapon...ur better of using a straight base stat enchant

  • Marrowstrike with 30STM + Mongoose for tanking, and Marrowtrike with ARP/Agility + Berserking for DPS =)

  • @fiskisdabajs

    feral anything marrowstrike is amazing.

  • What is the add-on or interface option that shows+crit, dodge etc. on the weapon tooltip, around 9:00.

  • i mean it's prat

  • I think its a mod called "statbreaker" or so, shows pure stats converted into % etc, have it myself, quite handy for seeing the actual benefit you get for a possible upgrade

  • should be "rating buster"

  • it looks like he somehow made his rotation a macro and shows what is coming off cd.

  • does anyone know what the amcro is in the middle of his screen?

  • if your having threat problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but threat ent 1.

  • Have you tanked hodir hard mode where your casters are doing 15k dps? You've never experienced real threat

  • I see a lot of comments saying they want a paladin tank.

    All you paladins out there, do you truly think you need one? Our rotation is the easiest out there and you damn well know it. We have 0 threat problems, 0 damage problems, and 0 utility problems.

  • In my experience, druids and paladins make the best tanks. Druids can REALLY soak up the damage, (60k HP raid buffed anyone?) contribute a good amount of damage, and as a consequence have great threat. Paladins in general have great mitigation, awesome AoE threat, Ardent Defender (aka soulstone 2.0), a multitude of buffs, and a few "oh sh@%" buttons.

  • hehe, paladin tank is my main and got druid and warrior as well. so far pally is the easiest tank class imo.

  • What do I blow OoC procs on? Or do I just go through my rotation as normal and my next global is just free?

  • ignore OoC procs, half the time you won't need it anyway, just keep the rotation going.

  • I tank totc 25 in bear form, there is no use or no reason why any feral tank cant hold aggro.. Faerie fire, laceratex5 while mauling, mangle, swipe swipe swipe = win.

  • I don't recall him ever saying not to use maul. In fact he said you will pretty much always want to have maul up.

    I'll add to this though there are some bosses in Uld that you dont want to maul everytime as you cant build up rage fast enough.

  • Why skip maul.. in raid u allways got rage up... so

  • lol he said "bear toolbox"

  • by any chance could you tell me what addons who are using in this video?

    -Thnx