@EmperorMarcusNovius amazing, a morbid video showing what life is like after a neclear war and all the comments about about cross uk/us vocabulary and prawn cocktail crisps lol
Just goes to show that the british people have allways been suppresed by sick feudal relics whose sole purpose is to ensure our total misery at the hands of thier law.
@EmperorMarcusNovius Thought so! (Thanks!) I do understand the difference between "chips" in the US versus the UK (what you call crisps, we call chips and what you call chips, we call fries). We do have some odd flavors of crisps here as well (ketchup, dill pickle, etc.), but prawn cocktail sounds horrible!
@EmperorMarcusNovius Forgive the "ignorant American" here, but what exaclty are prawn cocktail crisps? Don't tell me that are chips flavored like shrimp cocktail. YUCK! We don't have anything remotely similar in the US.
We always used to laugh and say, "I'll be the one painting a big white cross on the roof, and a sign saying drop it here!" Those killed in the initial strikes would've been the lucky ones.
I was in the Royal Observer Corps, part of the UKWMO, we would've been in a bunker underground and may have survived the blasts. Our job was to monitor radiation levels and directions to warn and help save life. To think this may have been my subsequent reality is now very hard to watch.
Yes, the vibrational energy inside the now-totalled City Hall is bad; but the energy outside is no better. Just as bad! -- though perhaps in different ways.
@jazzx251 It would be good if it did, but my own opinion is that "instinct" would result in people taking care of #1 first (along with their immediate families). Knowing that you are living on a *very* thin edge doesn't usually bring out the best in people ... mainly because they can't afford it. If being generous to someone else means your own kin will go hungry -- or may actually starve -- I think few people would feel they could afford to be generous.
well - take the case of Captain Bligh. Cast adrift on a lifeboat with 30 other men for over a month. He had a system where every morsel of food that was divided, he would choose someone to say who else should get it. They managed to survive for over a month before reaching shore.
The Chilean miners - no casualties, mostly good health. Your view, it seems, is that they should have reverted to stealing off each other, then cannibalism. Why did that not happen?
@jazzx251 There's something extra that those people have: comradeship and discipline. Not usually found in greedy individualistic capitalist societies.
With regards to the narrator's comment "The more who die, the more food there is left for the rest", I have read in a chapter "The Hell Ships", which is about when convicts were being banished to Australia when it was still a penal colony (it is from a book entitled "Australian Sea Stories"), that when one of their cellmates died, then the other convicts delayed reporting it to the guards for as long as possible, as it meant they could have their cellmate's provisions besides their own.
What is 'The Hell Ships' got to do with nuclear war? There wouldn't be much food at all after a nuclear war in first place, and what little there would be would be all lethally irradiated . I think being died would be the better option.
That is exactly how it would have been in the UK. Maybe worse. I saw it first time round. I was 23 at the time. Mates who were in the reserves were called up to go to Germany for exercise Lionheart. It was all very real.
i remeber the coldwar but when things started to get better in the late 80's even then there was a gtreat deal of fear, in 1983 wasn't there operation able archer the closest we ever came to nuclear war and that's why films like these were made as part of a campaign.
@5000433 thats why we built so many of the goddman bombs, to make sure that if Ivan ever did start it, we'd finish it. What good is that you might ask? well this movie shows why it worked, there is simply no winner in such an exchange, nothing to be gained but all to be lost. Fortunately the Soviet government understood this. What scares me however is rogue nations such as Iran with their theocratic governments getting the bomb, where they feel its "God's will" that they use it...
I agree the MAD worked almost perfectly. But it is predicated on rational threat realisation on both sides, and pure old fear. As you say jihadists etc wouldnt give a damn.
What scared us at the time ( I remember talking about it after) was a Failsafe type screw up. The UK would be killed by just 30 5 mgt nukes. That would be a whoops accident scale strike. We would have lost 60% of the population.
@5000433 are you talking about a failsafe problem on the side of the soviets? I was 7 years old when this movie was made, they had it on PBS (public telivision) here in the states. I remember asking my mom "Why do the Russians wanna bomb us? we're nice people!" I remember also hearing Then President Reagan firm yet optimistic speeches when dealing withthe Soviet threat. being a child at the time I did not understand the full gravity of just what was going on until some years later...
@Defconfx Yes. Or even our side. I lived about a mile from Manston, near Ramsagte Kent, which was critical resupply airbase and had the 3rd longest runway in the UK. According to the CND targeting map (they made it into a poster, I had it lol) Manston alone was going to get 10 megatons, so there would have been very little hope.
@Defconfx F111s used to practice bomb Manston. Used to fly really low for a big plane like an aardvark, about 500 feet. All sorts used to rotate out of there. F4s, A10s, Had a couple of B52s there once. The runway coulsd handle them. Galaxies and starlifters rarely.
@5000433 damn, 10 MT on an area that size would not have left much at all! they used to have a blast mapper program you could download and use against various locations using different yeild warheads to see where the survivability rings would fall. if a 1 mt bomb hit over LA I'd be just outside fo the 1-2 psi ring, however as you pointed out there would be multiple incoming warheads not just a single one, also it did not take into acount topography and weather variables.
@Defconfx If you ever get to see the UK targeting map you will see what I mean. Dover just 12 miles away another 10mgt, Deal, big radar and comms arrays 5 miles, 10 mgts etc etc the whole Island is just a mass of big circles. Heathrow 3 X 10mgts, London is just a huge black circle. Bigger the circle more WHs targetted at that point. its like that all over the country. Wish i had it still.
HATE rats... and mice....and bats for that matter altho they are EC (ecologically correct)... can't much see the point to mosquitos, cockroaches, or scorpions either, but that's just me...
That's interesting (if unsurprising) - however, the flavour was actually prawn cocktail, if I may be a pedant for a moment. This film was also made at a time when such cursing was relatively rare on UK TV - now it's commonplace.
As Eric Hoffer said in 'Truth Imagined' "A society without money means "there is no freedom of choice, since it is ruled by sheer power, & no equality, since brute force cannot be distributed"
It would be nice if human nature was not that way, but think how boring life would be. Like an old Hebrew saying: Why did God create so many different personalities and desires? God loves stories. If everyone were the same there would only be one story.
Tax the rich, feed the needy, obey the golden rule.
Brilliant indeed, I first read it sometime in the 60s and made me cry every time. There was a Hollywood movie circa 1958 with Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner, but the 2000 something series is great too. It's posted here by AussieRoo. The ending of the series is different from the book tho...the Australian ending is really a "Hollywood" ending, but the movie version has "Waltzing Matilda", definitely a point in favo(u)r. Have you read Shute's "A Town Like Alice" ?
rats are NOT affected by radiation for some reason vets and scientists have been trying to find out why for years but the answer is still a matter of investigation
At 5:49 - the traffic warden with the gun - the filmmakers must really have had an anti-authority complex (or a whole bunch of parking tickets) - this film is laughable.
No but I wish I was... I'd feel a lot safer now I know that experience of enforcing local authority parking regulations would qualify me to stand shoulder to shoulder with the military in the event of a major conflagration. Along with hotel commissionaires, girl guides and other sinister uniformed organisations.
Thank u for your reply. The film, however, is bollox. The UK govt of the 80s were rightly perceived as authoritarians who were contemptuous of 99% of the public and their opinions. This film is mainly an attack on that govt. Fine with me, but they let the conspiracy stuff run wild and it just takes away any plausibility as a post-bomb scenario.
sludgefingers: Really? You see Threads as primarily an attack on Thatcher's regime? Not that I'm disagreeing or criticizing that point, but I think Threads' primary attribute is a strong anti-war sentiment in general and anti-nuclear weapons specifically. I think the film is a pretty accurate portrayal of the aftermath of the level of nuclear attack portrayed in the movie. In fact, I think it is even a pretty conservative estimate.
Soldiers: lesser criminals payed by big bloody assassins in order to keep away from food and medical supplies the people they are killed with their bellicist politics
The world wouldn't have a chance against the apocalypse gun-nuts who would undoubtedly survive lol The men of the countryside are far different from the urban government liberal leeches.
lol yeah, when they aren't directly attacked, when a long lasting type nuclear winter is theoretical, when most nuclear bombs were/are under 1 megaton. The country side would be far better off than anybody else with practically unlimited farm animals to immediately convert to food as well as being far better armed.
"Practically unlimited farm animals." Haha. For about three weeks. Farm animals are usually outside and in winter, are inside barns--flimsy structures. They die of radiation too, and their carcasses rot. Rotting meat is an ineffectual food source.
Pff, the older British wouldn't gob up the hospitals, they'd rather leave them open for the kids and kill themselves. In WW2 they shipped all the kids to the countryside before the bombings.
Also, if this were in America, we'd take no shit from any soldier pointing guns at us, it'd be all militias and vigilantes. We'd probably be sending fleets of private ships packed with militia members to Russia to kill anyone in sight lol.
Unsure as to why the guy about to be executed was struggling. I think if I were in that scenario I would be looting specifically to get caught and be rewarded with a quick death by gunshot. Either way you win... if you loot successfully, you get food... if you get caught, you get to take the easy way out.
Because he wasn't a pussy. Because he knows that for humankind to rebuild the world, we're gonna need to throw away the "easy life" notion we've gotten used to.
There was a time when people actually "worked" for things instead of having it handed to them by mommy and daddy, or charging it to a credit card and then defaulting on the balance.
Bring the nukes, I say. Clean out the dregs of society. Pave the way for those that *CAN* survive.
Beaker... wasn't he the skinny sqeaky dude in the muppets that always followed Prof. Bunsen around? Or are you suggesting (accurately, no less) that we're basically a sack of water and the right ammount trace minerals thrown in for the chemical reaction to be self-sustaining?
As for "numbers, time, feelings... "; these are are measureable, quantifiable phenomenons (and the last two are subjective at best, anyway).
The concept of a "soul" is a bunch of made up fairy-tales at best.
I'm suggesting that we're also a sack of water with some minerals ("right" is already an interpretation), or maybe that's only a way to see things.
Again if you explain time and numbers by collecting minerals, I'm happy for you but you hardly believe that.
Then if you don't like "soul", take whatever word you like: "chaos", "idea", "fluid", "etheric corpse", "green mushroom", "chewing-gum"... And if you don't want to put a word, it doesn't mean that there's nothing.
I'd want to be in a city centre, in a park, perhaps St James Park, there sitting on a deck chair, when the bomb dropped. At least I would know that I'd be instantly vaporized in the explosion. To live in that post nuclear world would be like a death sentence with no hope whatsoever. Those so called survivors of the holocaust in Threads, were just the walking dead; humanity and civilization would of died wihen the first nukes had exploded.
by this time i would of probably already commited suicide, because there would be no point of living on, all of my life goals would be useless, no point in trying to live with nothing to gain or lose
Can anyone tell me what's going on in the beginning of this clip (and the end of the last one) where the two guys are yelling at each other and when the haggard-looking dude sullenly comes up and gives him a wrinkled piece of paper? Thanks!
The two blokes are arguing about if they should try to keep those alive who are dying or as good as dead or save the food stocks for the fit and helthy ones. And the raggard blokes informing him about the situations at food wharehosues. But remember that the underlying thing is that thier is absolutly nothing they can do about.
The problem with the European anti-nuke movement is they never recognized that Mutual Assured Destruction worked. Unilateral disarmament would have meant you all speaking Russian--of course many in Labour would have quite liked that!
Better Russian than flat dead. And anyway it's not politics that matters in the end, it's survival. Doesn't matter if you're liberal or conservative if you're charred.
Nukes are essentially an inanimate object, incapable of making their own decisions. The actions taken with them can either preserve freedom or destroy it. Save lives or end them.
It has nothing to do with the tool itself but the will of the tools creator or holder.
Nukes CAN be good if they're used by a benevolent leader like Reagan who preserved peace with them. Or the can be used to subjugate entire countries if held in the arsenal of a psychotic dictator.
Regan preserved peace through the principle of "deterence" and by making alliances, ie NATO.
Russia would have been a much more agressive force in Europe if the allies hadn't had nukes and the added clout of the whole of the US arsenal backing them up.
Good=Free Society
Bad=Communist, Socialist society where mother government tells you what job you can do, what "god" you can worship, where you can live, what you can drive, etc...
I Know the party line that conservatives like to have you believe, that Regan came from on high and won the Cold War. I'm not going dispute it, but I'd point to Able Archer as an example where deterrence almost had the opposite effect. Its debatable and each side probably has good points. But, Dude, honestly, Regan did NOT create NATO.
@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
@Binky40SW Please stop. You are the reason that we are looked upon as a bunch or crazy right wing zealots. Who is going to take away our freedom? I think you're delusional.
@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
Ruth's parents are murdered by the looters you see getting arrested. But I didn't pick that up on the first viewing and the editing does make their fate confusing I agree.
At least when this happens, in the States, where people can own guns, the people will at least be able to arm themselves against the fucking military bully-boys taking the law into their own hands.
So what you are saying is basically, all those people who are already dying from radiation sickness are going to rise up and take food reserved for the living because they have guns, sounds like mob rule to me! Least the soldier is doing it for the greater cause and not himself!
The sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, for the Lord had shortened the days, no flesh would have been saved; And the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken. -Not a religious man myself but that sounds eerily descriptive. At least a lot of the food would be cooked already >;)
"I used to love a fag after a meal"
I know it's ref. to cigarettes, and the context is pretty grim, but come on, it's kinda humorous in today's verbal climate.
rideintosunset 5 months ago
I watched this and couldn't help thinking it was farfetched, but then it hit me how close it was to happening, and how real it could have been
Travellinghobo2 6 months ago in playlist Threads (1984 BBC Documentary/Film)
@EmperorMarcusNovius amazing, a morbid video showing what life is like after a neclear war and all the comments about about cross uk/us vocabulary and prawn cocktail crisps lol
bl0xta 6 months ago
Just goes to show that the british people have allways been suppresed by sick feudal relics whose sole purpose is to ensure our total misery at the hands of thier law.
Xollob2 8 months ago
@EmperorMarcusNovius Well, we now have bacon flavored ice cream. Never let it be said that we Yanks are not inventive...
WestVirginiaRebel 9 months ago
@EmperorMarcusNovius Thought so! (Thanks!) I do understand the difference between "chips" in the US versus the UK (what you call crisps, we call chips and what you call chips, we call fries). We do have some odd flavors of crisps here as well (ketchup, dill pickle, etc.), but prawn cocktail sounds horrible!
HippyWitchGal 9 months ago
@EmperorMarcusNovius Forgive the "ignorant American" here, but what exaclty are prawn cocktail crisps? Don't tell me that are chips flavored like shrimp cocktail. YUCK! We don't have anything remotely similar in the US.
HippyWitchGal 9 months ago
ewwww 3:47 shes double dipping
imgordonfreeman 1 year ago
Christ, even after a Nuclear War, things are still being run by bickering public servants stuck in an office somewhere!
hill9868 1 year ago
If this will ever happen, it will be a terrorist attack. Thank you Tony Blair, you Jesus loving mother fucker!
155qwerty155 1 year ago
Run poor doggy run : (
VaIIentine 1 year ago
5:59 Is that Alison, Jimmy's sister?
WhiteLionness 1 year ago
@WhiteLionness I think it is.
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
If mankind would ever start a full scale nuclear war, I would curse the whole damn race! (If I would be alive to do it)
maidenfinland 1 year ago
The one thing you can't recreate on film is the smell. Try to imagine what it would smell like afterwards.
kayper54 1 year ago
We always used to laugh and say, "I'll be the one painting a big white cross on the roof, and a sign saying drop it here!" Those killed in the initial strikes would've been the lucky ones.
I was in the Royal Observer Corps, part of the UKWMO, we would've been in a bunker underground and may have survived the blasts. Our job was to monitor radiation levels and directions to warn and help save life. To think this may have been my subsequent reality is now very hard to watch.
planejunky 1 year ago 2
Yes, the vibrational energy inside the now-totalled City Hall is bad; but the energy outside is no better. Just as bad! -- though perhaps in different ways.
rayandreina 1 year ago
@rayandreina
The vibrational energy?
For goodness sakes.
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
3:03 Woodseats, i live there ;D
You'd think the bomb did go off if you saw it...
samliffe 1 year ago
I believe that such a scenario would show the best of my country.
I believe that - just out of instinct - people would help each other out as much as possible.
Yes - there would be morons who tried to steal everything, but the hangman's noose would be waiting for them. No question. No mercy.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251 It would be good if it did, but my own opinion is that "instinct" would result in people taking care of #1 first (along with their immediate families). Knowing that you are living on a *very* thin edge doesn't usually bring out the best in people ... mainly because they can't afford it. If being generous to someone else means your own kin will go hungry -- or may actually starve -- I think few people would feel they could afford to be generous.
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
@MrsNorris55
well - take the case of Captain Bligh. Cast adrift on a lifeboat with 30 other men for over a month. He had a system where every morsel of food that was divided, he would choose someone to say who else should get it. They managed to survive for over a month before reaching shore.
The Chilean miners - no casualties, mostly good health. Your view, it seems, is that they should have reverted to stealing off each other, then cannibalism. Why did that not happen?
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251 There's something extra that those people have: comradeship and discipline. Not usually found in greedy individualistic capitalist societies.
Avantime 1 year ago
@Avantime absolutely right, but u need a leader that is acceptetd by the group
domdadon018 1 year ago
The traffic warden illustrates how cobbled together post-nuclear society is.
Relugus 1 year ago
@Relugus
Well yes.
You have local council workers trying to run things - and they have no clue (and that's normally - not just after a nuclear attack).
jazzx251 1 year ago
Typical government. After a nuclear war they enforce....looting. Then take the food off the looters. Very well done.
marathon1974 1 year ago
@marathon1974 Are you being sarcastic? It's kinda hard to tell.
NoisyWolfXII 1 year ago
This looks like the government during the banking crisis.
jazzx251 1 year ago
those cops had better give that food to the govt guards and not just eat it themselves
Guynumber7 1 year ago
what dumb asses..looting is stealing with the aim of material gain...they were going into empty houses to get food, not exactly looting..
merrittolsen 1 year ago
Blatant homophobia at 3:37. LOL...
Binky40SW 1 year ago
ironic that we (the West) have been fighting communism and now that our glass buildings have been destroyed we have become dependent on it.
Magikshroomgirl 1 year ago
Too bad no guns in England or the civies could had shot back and kept their meal.
FlatulousMaximus 2 years ago
@FlatulousMaximus
Yeah that would be heaps better. If this film was set in the US it would have quickly devolved into all out civil war.
jabbasaw 2 years ago 4
@FlatulousMaximus If there were guns everyone would be their own paranoid, desperate and mentally disturbed law force. Yeah, tonnes better.
Magikshroomgirl 1 year ago
That dog's going to get a good feed...
faeembrugh 2 years ago
3:40 Nobody cares about your private sex life.
kpb96m 2 years ago
@kpb96m In British terms, a 'fag' is a cigarette.
Becka333999 2 years ago 2
hehe...look at his hand movement!
deaconredwhiteandblu 2 years ago
4:39 Theres nothing better to take your mind off been a survivor of a Nuclear Holocaust than quick session of 'Game and Watch' - Top work fella!
Pheonixfromtheshale 2 years ago
Time for a quick game of Final Fantasy
NowhereMan1966 2 years ago
Y'know it's the end of the world when traffic wardens get SLRs!
outinfish 2 years ago 22
Yeah. I noticed that. LOL
We do not have Traffic Wardens in the US. We only have people running around and ticketing people for bad parking and such.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
@outinfish LOL
5000433 1 year ago
@4:36 - I thought he found my Blackberry!
FolkFaves 2 years ago 2
LOL, thats to funny!
lunchmeat400 2 years ago
With regards to the narrator's comment "The more who die, the more food there is left for the rest", I have read in a chapter "The Hell Ships", which is about when convicts were being banished to Australia when it was still a penal colony (it is from a book entitled "Australian Sea Stories"), that when one of their cellmates died, then the other convicts delayed reporting it to the guards for as long as possible, as it meant they could have their cellmate's provisions besides their own.
LoverswithCassie 2 years ago 3
What is 'The Hell Ships' got to do with nuclear war? There wouldn't be much food at all after a nuclear war in first place, and what little there would be would be all lethally irradiated . I think being died would be the better option.
garyturner96 2 years ago
That is exactly how it would have been in the UK. Maybe worse. I saw it first time round. I was 23 at the time. Mates who were in the reserves were called up to go to Germany for exercise Lionheart. It was all very real.
Many of the posters here were not even born then.
5000433 2 years ago 14
i remeber the coldwar but when things started to get better in the late 80's even then there was a gtreat deal of fear, in 1983 wasn't there operation able archer the closest we ever came to nuclear war and that's why films like these were made as part of a campaign.
rocksoliddude1 2 years ago
Nah, everyone would be going about their daily business - except now we'd have nuclear winter to complain about instead of just the rain.
phocjame 2 years ago 2
@5000433 thats why we built so many of the goddman bombs, to make sure that if Ivan ever did start it, we'd finish it. What good is that you might ask? well this movie shows why it worked, there is simply no winner in such an exchange, nothing to be gained but all to be lost. Fortunately the Soviet government understood this. What scares me however is rogue nations such as Iran with their theocratic governments getting the bomb, where they feel its "God's will" that they use it...
Defconfx 1 year ago
@Defconfx
I agree the MAD worked almost perfectly. But it is predicated on rational threat realisation on both sides, and pure old fear. As you say jihadists etc wouldnt give a damn.
What scared us at the time ( I remember talking about it after) was a Failsafe type screw up. The UK would be killed by just 30 5 mgt nukes. That would be a whoops accident scale strike. We would have lost 60% of the population.
5000433 1 year ago
@5000433 are you talking about a failsafe problem on the side of the soviets? I was 7 years old when this movie was made, they had it on PBS (public telivision) here in the states. I remember asking my mom "Why do the Russians wanna bomb us? we're nice people!" I remember also hearing Then President Reagan firm yet optimistic speeches when dealing withthe Soviet threat. being a child at the time I did not understand the full gravity of just what was going on until some years later...
Defconfx 1 year ago
@Defconfx Yes. Or even our side. I lived about a mile from Manston, near Ramsagte Kent, which was critical resupply airbase and had the 3rd longest runway in the UK. According to the CND targeting map (they made it into a poster, I had it lol) Manston alone was going to get 10 megatons, so there would have been very little hope.
5000433 1 year ago
@Defconfx F111s used to practice bomb Manston. Used to fly really low for a big plane like an aardvark, about 500 feet. All sorts used to rotate out of there. F4s, A10s, Had a couple of B52s there once. The runway coulsd handle them. Galaxies and starlifters rarely.
Weird times.
5000433 1 year ago
@5000433 damn, 10 MT on an area that size would not have left much at all! they used to have a blast mapper program you could download and use against various locations using different yeild warheads to see where the survivability rings would fall. if a 1 mt bomb hit over LA I'd be just outside fo the 1-2 psi ring, however as you pointed out there would be multiple incoming warheads not just a single one, also it did not take into acount topography and weather variables.
Defconfx 1 year ago
@Defconfx If you ever get to see the UK targeting map you will see what I mean. Dover just 12 miles away another 10mgt, Deal, big radar and comms arrays 5 miles, 10 mgts etc etc the whole Island is just a mass of big circles. Heathrow 3 X 10mgts, London is just a huge black circle. Bigger the circle more WHs targetted at that point. its like that all over the country. Wish i had it still.
5000433 1 year ago
rats them buggers would thrive in any situation
timpatjoe 2 years ago
HATE rats... and mice....and bats for that matter altho they are EC (ecologically correct)... can't much see the point to mosquitos, cockroaches, or scorpions either, but that's just me...
anisete46 2 years ago
just kidding-And yes -I've lived there.
wavular 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
most people in the uk are dumbasses anyway.
wavular 2 years ago
have you been there?
Ultima770 2 years ago
You must be a native.
DVDluvr123 2 years ago
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LoverswithCassie 2 years ago
4:35 What a waste of whisky!!!!!
5thsauce 2 years ago 2
2 34, this comment about the "fucking" tangerine crisps was edited out of the American version
beaverpitt 2 years ago
That's interesting (if unsurprising) - however, the flavour was actually prawn cocktail, if I may be a pedant for a moment. This film was also made at a time when such cursing was relatively rare on UK TV - now it's commonplace.
markthemovieman 2 years ago
1.Money creates scarcity, Scarcity creates war, war creates death.
2.Money as a medium of exchange of resources is dangerous to hummanity
3.there is no such thing as a democracy
4. The scientific method should be applied to society and the resources of planet used responsibly.
Research Technocracy.......
lanxatdadisco 2 years ago
Money doesn't create scarcity, limited resources creates scarcity. Would you prefer a bartering system? Oh yea, that was REALLY better.
Arcadius15 2 years ago
Interestingly, a capitalist economy has a scarcity of goods when it over produces. For instance the rich crisis of south east asia
Militant000Marxist 2 years ago
As Eric Hoffer said in 'Truth Imagined' "A society without money means "there is no freedom of choice, since it is ruled by sheer power, & no equality, since brute force cannot be distributed"
It would be nice if human nature was not that way, but think how boring life would be. Like an old Hebrew saying: Why did God create so many different personalities and desires? God loves stories. If everyone were the same there would only be one story.
Tax the rich, feed the needy, obey the golden rule.
FolkFaves 2 years ago
whats the name of that game in scene0:42?, it sounds familiar.
timeclock200 2 years ago
It was not the whole of the UK just because one city had been nuked. Is Japan forgotten now :S
laurenlfc48 2 years ago
Hey, thanks a lot for the Doomsday lead.
catblanket14uk 2 years ago
I read a website last year. It was based on a 1988 war ( like this is set in 1988, coincidentally).
It says Australia, NZ, Brazil, China and Argentina would arise as superpowers. So there is hope.
Do you think, eg, Australia would be unaffected if not bombed?
catblanket14uk 2 years ago
Have you seen the Australian series version of "On the Beach" on this site ? Everyone dies of radiation swept down from the North....
anisete46 2 years ago 2
On the Beach is a brilliant novel by Nevile Shute. Didn't know they'd made it into a tv series though.
19996669991 2 years ago
Brilliant indeed, I first read it sometime in the 60s and made me cry every time. There was a Hollywood movie circa 1958 with Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner, but the 2000 something series is great too. It's posted here by AussieRoo. The ending of the series is different from the book tho...the Australian ending is really a "Hollywood" ending, but the movie version has "Waltzing Matilda", definitely a point in favo(u)r. Have you read Shute's "A Town Like Alice" ?
anisete46 2 years ago
Americans: a fag is a cigarette, before you start laughing.....
catblanket14uk 2 years ago 4
2:57
That's me in my heyday at the height of my career.
Handsome wasn't i? Sean Connery could only look on in envy.
catblanket14uk 2 years ago
Dawn of the Rats.
They're tougher than us, and potentially, in millions of years, as intelligent......
catblanket14uk 2 years ago
Number 3 has to take a number 2 on number 1
strongblackwoman22 2 years ago 2
"Number 3, a round for that man over there!"
Number 3 is a pretty good shot.
GammyGoose 2 years ago
Number 1is better at searching houses though.
MikeInDPMKit 2 years ago 2
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Palominoid 2 years ago
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Palominoid 2 years ago
10-20 million corpses! Why is everyone starving when there's such a great source of food just lying about!? Most of it would be ready cooked as well.
calicheSCOT 2 years ago
rats are NOT affected by radiation for some reason vets and scientists have been trying to find out why for years but the answer is still a matter of investigation
CANBERRACOURTBOY 2 years ago
thats not true, roaches maybe, but you pulled that one out of your arse my friend.
Jonahr08 2 years ago
At 5:49 - the traffic warden with the gun - the filmmakers must really have had an anti-authority complex (or a whole bunch of parking tickets) - this film is laughable.
sludgefingers 2 years ago
so you a traffic warden then?
tb4911 2 years ago
No but I wish I was... I'd feel a lot safer now I know that experience of enforcing local authority parking regulations would qualify me to stand shoulder to shoulder with the military in the event of a major conflagration. Along with hotel commissionaires, girl guides and other sinister uniformed organisations.
sludgefingers 2 years ago
The girl guides are a sinister uniformed organisation?
carpal24 2 years ago
No they're not... which is what I meant but obviously didn't convey...and there's me thinking i'm being blatantly and clumsily sarcastic...
sludgefingers 2 years ago
There should be a sarcasm font. You can never tell on youtube.
carpal24 2 years ago 3
no but i am
CANBERRACOURTBOY 2 years ago
Laughable?
This is likely what civilization will devolve into in the case of a nuclear attack.
maikutx 2 years ago
Thank u for your reply. The film, however, is bollox. The UK govt of the 80s were rightly perceived as authoritarians who were contemptuous of 99% of the public and their opinions. This film is mainly an attack on that govt. Fine with me, but they let the conspiracy stuff run wild and it just takes away any plausibility as a post-bomb scenario.
sludgefingers 2 years ago
sludgefingers: Really? You see Threads as primarily an attack on Thatcher's regime? Not that I'm disagreeing or criticizing that point, but I think Threads' primary attribute is a strong anti-war sentiment in general and anti-nuclear weapons specifically. I think the film is a pretty accurate portrayal of the aftermath of the level of nuclear attack portrayed in the movie. In fact, I think it is even a pretty conservative estimate.
GammyGoose 2 years ago 4
Soldiers: lesser criminals payed by big bloody assassins in order to keep away from food and medical supplies the people they are killed with their bellicist politics
cibernete1974 2 years ago
The world wouldn't have a chance against the apocalypse gun-nuts who would undoubtedly survive lol The men of the countryside are far different from the urban government liberal leeches.
wtfanman60 2 years ago
No, the men of the countryside would starve, freeze, be injured, and be sickened by radiation in exactly the same manner as any urban survivor.
You really don't get it, do ya, hotshot?
El135o 2 years ago
lol yeah, when they aren't directly attacked, when a long lasting type nuclear winter is theoretical, when most nuclear bombs were/are under 1 megaton. The country side would be far better off than anybody else with practically unlimited farm animals to immediately convert to food as well as being far better armed.
wtfanman60 2 years ago
Oh, you kids!
"Practically unlimited farm animals." Haha. For about three weeks. Farm animals are usually outside and in winter, are inside barns--flimsy structures. They die of radiation too, and their carcasses rot. Rotting meat is an ineffectual food source.
Ever hear of fallout? Radiation doesn't select for gun ownership--it kills everyone.
El135o 2 years ago
Pff, the older British wouldn't gob up the hospitals, they'd rather leave them open for the kids and kill themselves. In WW2 they shipped all the kids to the countryside before the bombings.
Also, if this were in America, we'd take no shit from any soldier pointing guns at us, it'd be all militias and vigilantes. We'd probably be sending fleets of private ships packed with militia members to Russia to kill anyone in sight lol.
wtfanman60 2 years ago
all we know about the effects of nuclear explosives is hiroshima and the testing in the deserts of the U.S
TURBODORK2 2 years ago
Darn rats look well-nourished. I guess you have to respect their survival skills.
Nicecatholicgirl 2 years ago 2
Makes the Blitz look like a cake walk.
walleyrt69 2 years ago
Unsure as to why the guy about to be executed was struggling. I think if I were in that scenario I would be looting specifically to get caught and be rewarded with a quick death by gunshot. Either way you win... if you loot successfully, you get food... if you get caught, you get to take the easy way out.
GammyGoose 2 years ago
Unsure as to why he was struggling?
Because he wasn't a pussy. Because he knows that for humankind to rebuild the world, we're gonna need to throw away the "easy life" notion we've gotten used to.
There was a time when people actually "worked" for things instead of having it handed to them by mommy and daddy, or charging it to a credit card and then defaulting on the balance.
Bring the nukes, I say. Clean out the dregs of society. Pave the way for those that *CAN* survive.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
as soon as i see a mushroom cloud i pulling a pistol to my head or i slit my throat rather than suffer burns or raddiation poisining
ALEXJDXBL 2 years ago 2
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and to hell you go to burn forever
lazycal28 2 years ago
lol christfag
BrendanIsCool 2 years ago 2
Go back to church, thumper!
After life, there's nothing.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
After life, you don't know !
Or you've tried and come back to tell everyone what colors it has ?
Chlapichlapo 2 years ago
Like I said, go back to church, thumper.
The argument between science and religion was settled when churches put lightening rods on their roofs.
Life is a series of chemical reactions that cease upon death.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
Then you consider yourself as a beaker ?
And numbers, time, feelings... that's all rubisch I suppose ? :/
Well if you're satisfied with your explanation of life, I'm happy for you, but I'm not convinced.
Chlapichlapo 2 years ago
Beaker... wasn't he the skinny sqeaky dude in the muppets that always followed Prof. Bunsen around? Or are you suggesting (accurately, no less) that we're basically a sack of water and the right ammount trace minerals thrown in for the chemical reaction to be self-sustaining?
As for "numbers, time, feelings... "; these are are measureable, quantifiable phenomenons (and the last two are subjective at best, anyway).
The concept of a "soul" is a bunch of made up fairy-tales at best.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
I'm suggesting that we're also a sack of water with some minerals ("right" is already an interpretation), or maybe that's only a way to see things.
Again if you explain time and numbers by collecting minerals, I'm happy for you but you hardly believe that.
Then if you don't like "soul", take whatever word you like: "chaos", "idea", "fluid", "etheric corpse", "green mushroom", "chewing-gum"... And if you don't want to put a word, it doesn't mean that there's nothing.
Chlapichlapo 2 years ago
Yeah... percieving things that aren't there is a sign of schizophrenia.
Giving things that don't exist is something most people stop doing once they reach puberty.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
You like to troll, don't you ? ;)
Chlapichlapo 2 years ago
I'd want to be in a city centre, in a park, perhaps St James Park, there sitting on a deck chair, when the bomb dropped. At least I would know that I'd be instantly vaporized in the explosion. To live in that post nuclear world would be like a death sentence with no hope whatsoever. Those so called survivors of the holocaust in Threads, were just the walking dead; humanity and civilization would of died wihen the first nukes had exploded.
turner60 2 years ago 2
Disaster or no if you act like an animal and kill innocent people, the authorities should shoot you like one. Good for them.
boyakasha777 2 years ago
Jesus wept, talk about missing the point...
beastatlay 2 years ago
agreed
Huliojohnson 2 years ago
1:43 Katrina Policy enacted
naughtydorf18 2 years ago
by this time i would of probably already commited suicide, because there would be no point of living on, all of my life goals would be useless, no point in trying to live with nothing to gain or lose
umahuma4 3 years ago 7
Forget your life goals. The place in this movie is a living hell. I'd kill myself just to avoid having to live in this shit hole.
olivemike81 2 years ago 3
yeah i agree with yuo i rather kill my self
ikukelas 2 years ago
shoot to kill
umahuma4 3 years ago
I wonder what's going through little kids minds as all this is happening around them.
hmasmelbourne 3 years ago
Why are all the adults failing me?
BrendanIsCool 3 years ago 3
Thats an interesting way of looking at it.
hmasmelbourne 3 years ago
Why? Why? Why would somone want to do this? it doesnt make any sense at all.
umahuma4 3 years ago
???????????
hmasmelbourne 3 years ago
its all about domination, its the roots of our extinction behavioral
Huliojohnson 2 years ago 2
Can anyone tell me what's going on in the beginning of this clip (and the end of the last one) where the two guys are yelling at each other and when the haggard-looking dude sullenly comes up and gives him a wrinkled piece of paper? Thanks!
GoldsteinsBook 3 years ago
The two blokes are arguing about if they should try to keep those alive who are dying or as good as dead or save the food stocks for the fit and helthy ones. And the raggard blokes informing him about the situations at food wharehosues. But remember that the underlying thing is that thier is absolutly nothing they can do about.
hmasmelbourne 3 years ago
Hahaha, "blokes." Hey, give them some more credit, they survived a damn nuclear holocaust!
Thanks for explaining this to me!
GoldsteinsBook 3 years ago
Nah bloke is just a slang term for man in the UK
liamhedonic 3 years ago 2
Amazing movie
GatoAmarillo76 3 years ago
The problem with mutually assured destruction is that it only takes ONE person (for whom it doesn't work) to cause a chain reaction. FACT.
daryl000303 3 years ago
arm yourselves folks....only way to survive! arm yourselves to the teeth!
ultimateskinsfan 3 years ago
Was that the Kemp daughter in the detention camp?
anisete46 3 years ago
Humanity dies, but vid games live on... quite a metaphor
anisete46 3 years ago
I searched this movie for that scene I remember it when I was a little kid. It's VERY powerful, even after all these years.
fkerpants 2 years ago 3
bloody rats.. you'd just know THOSE bastards would survive.. I Hate Them !!
anisete46 3 years ago
The problem with the European anti-nuke movement is they never recognized that Mutual Assured Destruction worked. Unilateral disarmament would have meant you all speaking Russian--of course many in Labour would have quite liked that!
fact2752 3 years ago
Better Russian than flat dead. And anyway it's not politics that matters in the end, it's survival. Doesn't matter if you're liberal or conservative if you're charred.
radiofan6872 3 years ago 2
Wrong. Better FREE than russian. I'll die for that freedom. Even if it includes having to tolerate a couple mushroom clouds.
Binky40SW 2 years ago
True that....freedom over tyranny any day...death before enslavement...but, look at modern Europe, they're more socialist/communist than ever before.
DocMarquis 2 years ago
'Must be talking about french socialists... :D
Chlapichlapo 2 years ago
"Wrong. Better FREE than russian."
Stupid point.
US nukes are good, and Russian are bad?
Primorsky 2 years ago 3
Nukes are essentially an inanimate object, incapable of making their own decisions. The actions taken with them can either preserve freedom or destroy it. Save lives or end them.
It has nothing to do with the tool itself but the will of the tools creator or holder.
Nukes CAN be good if they're used by a benevolent leader like Reagan who preserved peace with them. Or the can be used to subjugate entire countries if held in the arsenal of a psychotic dictator.
So, yeah. US nukes=Good
Binky40SW 2 years ago
"Nukes CAN be good if they're used by a benevolent leader like Reagan who preserved peace with them"
How Reagan "preserved peace" using US nukes?
It's bullshit, opinion in black or white only. "Evil empire" and "Good empore"
Primorsky 2 years ago 2
Regan preserved peace through the principle of "deterence" and by making alliances, ie NATO.
Russia would have been a much more agressive force in Europe if the allies hadn't had nukes and the added clout of the whole of the US arsenal backing them up.
Good=Free Society
Bad=Communist, Socialist society where mother government tells you what job you can do, what "god" you can worship, where you can live, what you can drive, etc...
Binky40SW 2 years ago
I Know the party line that conservatives like to have you believe, that Regan came from on high and won the Cold War. I'm not going dispute it, but I'd point to Able Archer as an example where deterrence almost had the opposite effect. Its debatable and each side probably has good points. But, Dude, honestly, Regan did NOT create NATO.
watkinsonatdal 2 years ago 3
@Binky40SW You sound like an Islamic fundamentalist, you certainly think like one.
Relugus 1 year ago
@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
Binky40SW 1 year ago
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@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
Binky40SW 1 year ago
@Binky40SW Please stop. You are the reason that we are looked upon as a bunch or crazy right wing zealots. Who is going to take away our freedom? I think you're delusional.
omcorc 1 year ago 3
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@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
Binky40SW 1 year ago
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@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
Binky40SW 1 year ago
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@Relugus Because I love the United States of America, and I hate what its enemies would do to it (and some of it's enimies are *trying* to do to it?
Because I believe that every man, woman and child has the right to persue happieness in their own way? Because I believe that the United States is one of the greatest countries in the world? Or because I believe that the best way to win a war against those who would harm us and take away our freedom is to crush them without mercy?
Binky40SW 1 year ago
the traffic warden with the rifle is legend, it is truly the end of the world.. nice image, banksyeque
speedapple 3 years ago
Come on Dude! Don't waste the scotch! Not like they are making any more! Damn...
PeregrineC 3 years ago
So, did Ruth's folks die from radiation? or from Looters...it's not clear. I guess it doesn't matter...I just wondered.
PeregrineC 3 years ago
Me too....
anisete46 3 years ago
Ruth's parents are murdered by the looters you see getting arrested. But I didn't pick that up on the first viewing and the editing does make their fate confusing I agree.
Ashworth6 3 years ago 3
At least when this happens, in the States, where people can own guns, the people will at least be able to arm themselves against the fucking military bully-boys taking the law into their own hands.
AquarianAscent 3 years ago
Typical American... Guns won't solve shit at that juncture.
Flint79 3 years ago 5
So what you are saying is basically, all those people who are already dying from radiation sickness are going to rise up and take food reserved for the living because they have guns, sounds like mob rule to me! Least the soldier is doing it for the greater cause and not himself!
Shakeyboat1 3 years ago 3
The sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, for the Lord had shortened the days, no flesh would have been saved; And the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken. -Not a religious man myself but that sounds eerily descriptive. At least a lot of the food would be cooked already >;)
moparroadrunner69 3 years ago 2