Obama Birth Certificate: Fake, Fraud or Genuine? -- the EXPERT Evaluation -- Part 1

[springfieldcompguy]

NOTE TO VISITORS

THESE VIDEOS, MADE ONLY 10 DAYS AFTER BARACK OBAMA RELEASED HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE, HAVE BEEN SUPERCEDED BY AN ENTIRE BOOK.

The book is the result of a careful, complete 3 month investigation. It goes FAR beyond the beginning investigation shown in these videos.

For more information, look for the book, Is Barack Obamas Birth Certificate a Fraud, by John Woodman on Amazon-dot-com, or visit ObamaBirthBook-dot-com.

[DABIGRAGU1]

LOL, figures Pogue would be here. Clown.

[AnnaMishel]

Hussein WAS born in KENYA!

[PogueMoran]

@bsteadman1 You mean a document produced by your friend convicted Forger Lucas Daniel Smith (not even his real name). Lucas who recently was in jail again has a rather long criminal rap sheet. Lucas never went to Kenya and has yet to date to show any proof of his supposed travel. There's also the problem that not only does he put the wrong Health Administrator on the document but also spells his name wrong.

[TeaPartyPowerHour]

@PogueMoran Yes a misspelling is one of the first signs experts look for to determine if

TXE Document is Fake...LOL

[PogueMoran]

@TeaPartyPowerHour You can't use your eyesight can you? Look at the high quality scan and you can see it is an H and you can see portions of the crossbar in the X as opposed to a complete cross from the X.

[AnnaMishel]

"thou dost protest too much"

As soon as I heard you repeatedly proclaim how "fair" you were going to be. It was an instant "red flag" that you were biased. Husseins LFBC is an obvious forgery! The numerous other videos exposing this fraud by REAL experts are infinitly more comprehensive and credible. Futhermore,

Hussein's REAL birth certificate from Kenya

Is on the web, along with the story of how it was gotten at:

WASOBAMABORNINKENYADOTCOM

[PogueMoran]

@AnnaMishel Real Experts Anna? You mean people who have worked copy machines and have no forensic document experience and are long time conspiracy theorists like Irey and Vogt? The document you list is the one produced by Convicted Forger Lucas Smith who couldn't even get the hospital administrator's name spelled right and puts the wrong health administrator on the document. Lucas is a felon, grifter and admitted child molester why should we take his word?

[TeaPartyPowerHour]

@PogueMoran Wow, you're on this one too. Can't say I'm surprised. You keep sticking on Vogt and Irey. You Ignore Zebest, Denninger and Newcomer. You remember Newcomer right PogueMoran. If you don't, ask Dan Rather why he got sacked. Since when do experts use Paint Shop Pro...This video is a joke!!!

[PogueMoran]

@TeaPartyPowerHour Sticking on Vogt and Irey? On your page I didn't talk about Irey and Vogt, you did. Zebest, Denninger and Newcomer were already existing birthers. Newcomer said he didn't even do an analysis but instead based it on Vogt's and Irey's flawed analysis. Dan Rather got sacked because he went on air without getting the document authenticated. Dan Rather didn't have the military or issuing entity backing up the document like HDOH has done with the BC

[PogueMoran]

Of course you think the video is a joke. Your so called experts show how unprofessional they are. How come they didn't bother looking at other documents and try the same experiments? You'd think a professional would do some tests, use a control and experiment with other documents before claiming a PDF file is a forgery.

[SpankyPinkbottom]

@TheMongoose131

- He didn't hide his BC. He released the COLB in 2008. This is the document that established citizenship.

- I'm not sure how Corsi's delusions are relevant.

- The 'B's are the same because the compression algorithm assigned them to the same symbol. I'm sure John will cover that. Same with the checkboxes. (Google "PDF and symbol tables" if you are interested).

- It's possible they are oversights. However, they are far more likely artifacts of the image compression process.

[SpankyPinkbottom]

Excellent. Thanks man. It's about time someone who knows what they are talking about showed up these birthers for the idiots they are.

[TheDaDrummer]

i knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[springfieldcompguy]

@TheMongoose131

Actually, the duplicate characters (particularly the ones on the form) have no good explanation AS a copied artifact by someone doing a cut and paste.

First, I now have access to probably hundreds of scanned & optimized documents that are known NOT to have been cut-&-pasted, that show the exact same thing.

Second, in order to believe the theory you have to believe someone assembled the entire form by laborious cut&paste rather than doing a simple scan. Just doesn't work.

[springfieldcompguy]

@springfieldcompguy It especially doesn't work when you compare the form to a known good one, and see that it's identical.

So the theory would be that instead of just scanning the form, someone decided to laboriously assemble the entire thing through cut and paste, taking probably days (at a minimum) to try and get it right instead of simply scanning it in.

Nobody would do this, and particularly not anyone who wants to present a credible forgery. A total waste of time, and way too risky.

[springfieldcompguy]

@TheMongoose131

To answer your questions:

Why he avoided producing a certificate for 2 years is a great question.

I'll be talking more about Corsi's info later.

I believe I've already addressed the duplicate items; please watch the videos closely.

Probably not. If it's a forgery, it's a good one.

And finally, I'm not sure what you're asking here.

[springfieldcompguy]

@MrInfounderground When you engage in personal attack, you tend to show that the person you're attacking is correct. If you had any way to disprove my analysis, you would disprove the analysis. Since you can't, you engage in name-calling as a poor substitute.

The basic argument is to try and discredit the person making the analysis, since you can't find any fault with the analysis itself.

In any event, thanks for viewing the video and participating in the discussion!

[Jim777ism]

It's not real because in the 60's, they did not say race as African ----they said "Negro". If it was real, the race field next to his father would say "negro", not African!

[COMALiteJ]

@Jim777ism, what you say is true for most of the States, but NOT for Hawaii. Remember, Hawaii had only been a State for about three years (1959 to 1961). It didn’t have the same racial baggage that most of the rest of the USA had. It had a very different racial baggage, involving the Native Hawaiians (whose king’s name was later used as the name of Goku’s energy attack in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z — but I digress).

People who were actually FROM Africa were called “Africans.”

[Jim777ism]

@COMALiteJ "Racial baggage" had NOTHING to do with it. The term "negro" was NOT a racIST term. It was the word used in the race field of forms to indicate one was a negro. There were no choices for "african american', as that term did not EXIST until the 90's. They were called NEGRO. Period. Nothing racist here, just the truth.

[COMALiteJ]

@Jim777ism, I never said that “African-AMERICAN” would be the term used. “Negro” was the term used in MOST of the United States, and yes, it was a racist term, coming from the work of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, the Father of Anthropology, whose work (over his own objections) pretty much invented modern racism.

Again: people who were actually FROM AFRICA, BORN there (as Barack Obama SR., the President’s FATHER, definitely was), were called “Africans,” NOT “Negros.”

[lauren92567]

How have the allegations of forgery failed?

[springfieldcompguy]

@lauren92567 Well, the only allegation of forgery I've really posted on so far is the layers phenomenon and related allegations, covered in videos 2 through 4. The layers-fraud theory quite solidly fails, taking with it 5 of the 8 charges that I mention in this video.

That leaves 3 of the 8 original charges, which I plan to look at in an additional video or videos as soon as I can get to it.

There are also additional charges and theories that I may address later. So stay tuned!

[lauren92567]

The whole document is clearly fraudulent.  I wonder if Trump will go after it, or he didn't like the wrath of the MSM.

[springfieldcompguy]

@lauren92567 I start not from the presumption that it's fraudulent, or that it isn't. That's by far the best way to get to actual truth.

Then both sides of the question have to be carefully and objectively examined. On the forgery side, many allegations have been raised, and I personally am asking some other questions that no one else, as far as I know, has reported asking.

On the other side, all allegations have to be hard-tested. So far in my report, allegations of forgery have failed.

[lauren92567]

Also there is another glaring FORGERY: On the bottom where it says " I certify that this is a true copy or abstract of TXE record on file.... Since when are there spelling errors on those stamps?? Shouldn't it be a stamp??? UGH!

[springfieldcompguy]

@lauren92567 Have a very close look at the white-background, higher resolution document.

[COMALiteJ]

@lauren92567, The stamp doesn’t say “TXE.” Even discounting the fact that the high-res version that SFCG refers to shows this clearly, simple logic demonstrates it:

• The letter “X” doesn’t look even REMOTELY LIKE that in ANY SANS-SERIF font such as used in the stamp. It looks more like the “X”s HERE, that I just typed, in THIS font (Arial) — two straight diagonal lines that intersect just above the middle, like “/” on top of “\”.

• Look at your keyboard: [X] is nowhere NEAR [T]. Not a typo.

[COMALiteJ]

@lauren92567 (cont.)

• Ooops! I meant that [X] is nowhere NEAR [H] (not “[T]”) on the standard Sholes QWERTY keyboard layout. They’re not even in the same ROW, nor even typed with the same HAND! And no, they’re not close together on any of the alternate keyboard layouts either, including DVORAK Two-Handed, Left or Right-Handed, etc.

To be a believable typo, the letters would have to be ADJACENT on the keyboard. “TJE” or “TGE” would be a believable typo, but NOT “TXE.”

[COMALiteJ]

@lauren92567, (cont.) What actually happened with the stamp is a simple inking issue. Rubber stamps in the 1960s were inked by pressing them onto a pre-inked pad, with a thin layer of silk-like cloth covering a sponge-type material that held the ink. The stamp itself was made of rubber, or a rubber-like material (thus the term “rubber stamp”).

As can be seen by looking at the surrounding areas, the letters around “THE” were over-inked, and also some air bubbles formed between the stamp and pad.

[COMALiteJ]

@lauren92567 (cont.) If you look at the high-res version, you can see that several tiny air bubbles formed in the over-inked areas, forming tiny cutouts in the letters. For the most part, these were too small or not in the specific places to alter the perceived shape of a letter enough to make it look like another letter, except in the case of the “H” were a bubble formed just where the left vertical stem of the “H” met the cross-stem. That’s why it looks sort of like a stylized, serifed “X.”

[springfieldcompguy]

We've now gotten through the Mystery of the Strange Layers in this series of videos.

[SkyBlueAugust]

Yep - "the biggest fraud in American history" and.....

[springfieldcompguy]

@ronikondo This is a bit of a sad topic. When a child is born, he or she is either born alive, or is stillborn. Some States will handle this differently from others. From what I understand, some issue a document for a stillborn child (which then becomes something that the parents can keep), and some only issue a Death Certificate. You need to distinguish in order to keep even halfway decent statistics, hence the official name "Certificate of Live Birth" for children born alive.