Cleopatra (1963) Part 22

[JulissaC18]

When does she give birth to the twins? :l

[necktieguy1]

this is a beautiful love scene between her servant and Cleopatra. How he must have loved so for so long!!!! Thanks for this post.

[turtlewings]

what's the little water ritual thing they do at 1:15?

[summergirlx17]

Rufio turns traitor doesn't he?

[jimmymortis]

One thing that is never explained in this film is why mark antony and cleopatra are all moved and inspired by julius caesar when really all of this started when he left his will to octavian. If he really was all about cleopatra, he would have left it to his other biological son. The Rome series seemed to take care of this by not giving a shit about caesar.

[MegaGiovanna1991]

@DJCrixus64 lmao

[JAAmongo]

jajajajjajaj that was funny my ass felt asleep!!! where are the chidren

[1958louief]

I been reading the Comments. It seems there is a lot of comments about " Her figure" It wasn't her looks or beauty that mattered. I was her brain, She was well Educated in everything. Her size is the last thing that should be concern. Two Thousand years ago. They didn't have Vogue. They used Intelligence!!

[SmileCavy86]

Octavian was also ruthless, meriless, and ambitious to a fault.

Like most World rulers.

[timebandit71]

@SmileCavy86 yes but he won....

[gringischilensis]

She want to die with him and I wonder where are the children. They are not afraid for die, but I'm afraid for the kids. OK. they are no mine!!!

[666bunnies]

Taylor has not regal enough to play Cleo. This film just seems to be a rather indulgent shouting match between Taylor and Burton.

[HistoryLover1550]

Antony could've gotten a spy or scout to enter Octavian's camp at night and assasinate him.

[Abridgedfan134]

@HistoryLover1550 It wasn't that easy, it never is, Octavian's death would only have fanned the flames of anti-Egyptians sentiment in Rome, and they barely had any forces to begin with, Anthony and Cleopatra were doomed

[HistoryLover1550]

@Abridgedfan134 Your right, good point. I'd forgotten that.

[HistoryLover1550]

Caearion was actually 17 by the time of his mother's death, I always feel like crying when I watch the scene where he's dead :(

[HistoryLover1550]

The scene between Cleopatra and Apollodorus reminds me of Hypatia (Rachel Weisz) and Davus (Max Minghella) in the movie "Agora" would've been sweet if he told her he always loved her, yet it was a great movie still.

[Mandinko23]

first greek, then egyptian, then romans.

[LaSerpentaCanta]

How fat she looks with Irene Sharaff's horrifying wardrobe design, in spite of her being slim and firm at the time. Well, at least The Face is as gorgeous as it ever was.

[DrDizzy1984]

@LaSerpentaCanta that is to make her LOOK LIKE A RICH QUEEN... in most contries FAT is desirible...it's Egypt!!! Fat means wealthy

[LaSerpentaCanta]

@DrDizzy1984 This doesn't make sense, fat was no longer a beauty ideal in 1962 =/

[DrDizzy1984]

@LaSerpentaCanta lol they weren't depicting 1962 lmao... and that whole Twiggy thing didn't really take off till the late 60's... Rochel Welch Bo Derek and Liz Taylor have always been known for there beauty and valuptuous figures...yes Liz gained 10 pounds for the role (no pun intended) but even at that she was a size 6. If you think a size 6 is fat the you're either a model or have an eating disorder!

[deedee9960]

@DrDizzy1984 what matters is the acting nobody knows what size the real cleopatra was, and rumor has it that cleopatra wasn't as beautiful as she is portyaled in the movie but she was intellgent and seduactive. I have to say the acting is superb =)

[DrDizzy1984]

@LaSerpentaCanta that is to make her LOOK LIKE A RICH QUEEN... in most contries FAT is desirible...it's Egypt!!! Fat means wealthy.... The wordrobe in this movie is like the GWTW wardrobe! Perfect for the genera

[antonipuig1]

quines tetes te Cleopatra

[2degucitas]

Octavian looks bronzed and blonde. Looking good, for a tyrant.

[RogerTheDodgerX]

how come in neither this movie nor the 1999 verison, it doesnt show Cleopatra having Marc Antony's kids?

[HistoryLover1550]

@RogerTheDodgerX I've always asked the same question! The filmakers must've thought that mentioning Antony and Cleo's three kids would make the movies even longer. In HBO's Rome, only the twins Helios and Selene are mentioned, excluding their second son.

[zenman5910]

Roman rule was the end of ancient Egyptian history, they destroyed Egypt. The Roman empire was the darkest era of human history, they ruined everything they touched, and the world despised them.

[EasternMerchant]

octavian was reasonable it seems .....as long as Cleopatra gave up that which she cherishes...... the most....

[TheGreatAlexandros]

The guy who plays Octavian in this did a good job. He was the most calm and modest and pacifying of emperors, but also the most dangerous.

[Rico8458]

they say the pax romana, the peace is his claim to fame

[Rico8458]

actually octavian later became the greatest leader of rome ever had. he brought the pax romana, peace for like over 100 years. some guy.

[antoninus138]

@Rico8458 He brought an end to law. Arbitary execution. Tiberius having sex with prepubescent boys, Caligula and all the rest. Octavianus brought the preatorian guard to Rome and if you know your history you know those men only respected tyrants as only they benefitted from it. They killed virtuous emporers - eg Pertinax, and terrified the people. So in what way was Octavianus the greatest leader rome ever had?

[TheGreatAlexandros]

The Roman republic was bound to fail eventually. Augustus was only feared by the Aristocracy. He liberated the common people (though not as much as Julius Caesar). I'm not saying he cared about the people more than power, but he benefited the people so they would support him.

[blackiemittens]

'I have always loved you.'

"And I have always known."

[sunbul2]

As for Cleopatra both as a woman and as an Easterner, historians have worked very hard from those days to this to diminish her.. nothing personal of courxse.. just your usual clash between the west and the east, and genders, and ways of living, and this sense that there is only one room on this planet for one civilisation and one only... the western one... i personally side with cleopatra and anthony..

[sunbul2]

Ok. Lets throw this in. Octavian was a machiavellian upstart.. Cleopatra was machiavellian too. The difference between Octavian and her is that she was honourable and he was not. He was a kind of a wizard of Oz figure from what it seems. Now everyone wants power, but some people are enhanced by it and some are diminished. Historians from his day to this have worked very very hard to make him a pin up star but i notice a lot of people find its more like propaganda.

[Abridgedfan134]

The scene between Cleopatra and Ceasarion makes me want to see more scenes between the two of them

[1972jewish]

Apolodoros` actor is not english. Augustus & especially Agripa were great strategists

[Tenor5274]

my my Yosef! I must say that I must have struck a raw nerve with you. You don't need to be so hostile and arrogant but as an "elitist" how can I expect anything less. Thank you for that impressive body of knowledge you've just demonstrated but in the future, you ought to realize that this is America and we are still entitled to express our opinions whether you agree with them or not ,therefore, I ask you to kindly remember that in the future. Thank you and Good Day!

[tumsabai1]

How long was the Roman Empire???

Longest movie ever made. This was

before mini-series.

[lilluvstruk]

this is a LONG MOVIE!

[vincentdifondi]

Orginally, it was to be 2 movies, but they finally decided on the one movie which is almost 4 hours

[yosefbenyosef]

@lilluvstruk Its an important story but why do u watch?

[lilluvstruk]

@yosefbenyosef

because i'm writing a paper on how the media has portrayed cleopatra and how that affects the reading of shakespeare's antony and cleopatra in modern perspective.

also i love elizabeth taylor

[lmsypj]

9:40

I just realized what did they use for alarm clocks back then. lol

[tumsabai1]

They used servants and slaves. The Britans

and Guals were particularly adept at time

keeping .

[vincentdifondi]

slaves

[Tenor5274]

Octavian, Calligula and Nero were "birds of a feather" the only difference was that it got progressively worse with Calligula and ultimately Nero.

[yosefbenyosef]

@Tenor5274 What? What sort of foolishness have u been exposed to? Octavian was nothing like Caligula or Nero. Augustus Caesar was one of the great persons of history and a lot of his reforms are the cause for the modern world to be as it is. U have been watching too many movies and listening to too much Christian Sunday School propaganda. The Octavian seen in this movie was nothing like the real person.

[yosefbenyosef]

@Tenor5274

And while Caligula was indeed mad, Nero has been the victim of Christian propaganda. He is usually the starting point of false Christian victimhood with the 'feeding the Christians to the lions' stories. But to place Octavian into the same category with him and Caligula only shows the ignorance that is legend in the US schools. Augustus Caesar is one of the giants in history.

[MonISlover]

aw that poor guy "and i have always loved you" "and i have always known"

[ShaelahBergen]

the costumes and the scale of everything is awesome. all the extras and the giant sets make everything more believable.

[sabinadewfield]

This movie is quite unfair to Augustus...

[Iluthra]

It is because he is the enemy of the movie's stars. IN truth, Augustus did a lot for Rome.

[TheSutphen]

Taylor plays a perfect cleopatra.

[1soprano20]

I don't like Octavian.

[tumsabai1]

I don't like your mother!!!!

[vincentdifondi]

He was not likeable, the movie did a good portrayal.

[yosefbenyosef]

@vincentdifondi On the contrary, Augustus Caesar was very well 'liked' and had all of his powers bestowed on him by a grateful Senate and Roman populace. If he was not likeable he would not have risen so high as to become Princeps without having a distinguished military career. The movie was a great despiction of a Prince Paris-like Octavian but not of the historic person.

[Tenor5274]

@yosefbenyosef by the way: not all of us were "gifted" to have lived during their time as you seem to have been...since you speak with such a first-hand authority. The rest of mortals,therefore, could NEVER possibly measure up to such a standard. :)

[DrDizzy1984]

@1soprano20 I know you're talking movie, but you do know that Octavian Cesar is world renouned through history as the greatest ruler like ever...He brought the greatest peace, prosperity and level of democracy Rome ever knew....He wasn't equaled as a ruler untill Elizabeth t he 1st of England!

[clyneDDW1]

@1soprano20 He was a wonderful actor, Roddy was. Knew him as a friend years ago.

[grace4561]

Great Movie. Love the scenes between Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor.

Thanks