One problem with this video; this guy isn't objective, he's a liberal with a conservative agenda. If people from outside of Sweden takes everything he says at face value (because he's a Swede and must know what he's talking about) they'll get the wrong image of Sweden.
Kind of reminds me of that slogan "fair and balanced" and we all know how true that is... not.
Science and the accumulation of knowledge has indeed brought me "every nice thing I have", and I'm very grateful to live in the time I do, where I can reap the benefits of our ancestors while carrying on their continual struggle to improve the condition of man.
When I refer to the earth, it should be quite clear that I'm referring to material things.
@uruson It's you that's missing the point. Let me repeat what you said with slight modifications. It's year 1800. Earth doesn't get bigger every year. But people's conditions DO get better every year because they learn how to get more out of acre of land and because of technological progress. If anyone in 1800 said that growth is bad, Earth is finite and so on he'd be simply wrong.
The only difference is that you're around year 2010 and say the same thing.
@mootant I dislike how Economics seem not to be tied to the earth.
A much better model would be to estimate the value of everything inside the earth, followed by estimating how much we can access, after which you set the price.
Then you would evaluate the costs of your options:
1. Come up with ways to access more of the earth.
@uruson Your whole reasoning how it's bad not to include the cost of using up the resources in the long term makes no sense because of that. Once resources are taken to the surface they mostly stay there and can be cheaply reused.
I think that's a bad thing personally because it undermines personal freedom. Consumption is limited by how much money you have; if you spend all your money on an expensive car, it's your own fault for doing that. Personal responsibility is in itself enough of a disincentive to not waste your money. Taxing it won't help because that just leaves you with less money.
Yeah sure, I'm gonna trust a snob from Södermalm and take his claims into judgement concerning this topic. Here's a tip for y'all: If you want to do something to solve Africans dying of thirst, don't go ask the guy who owns three millions water bottles and doesn't want to share. Odds are that he won't say that they can take a few of his.
Okay, this was a short interview, but I'm not very impressed by his analysis. It sounded like a very traditional Swedish right-wing opinion piece. If you know anything about the Swedish system, you won't learn anything new here.
@michaeljfreak No. It reduces consumption all together. There is no distinction made between over and under. Consumption tax is regressive and reduces demand.
Funny... Ericsson Telecom was one the first companies to dump Sweden when we joined EU (after pressuring their employees to vote yes to the EU) in the 90's... were is it now ?
Oh yeah, it didn't survive and was bought up by Sony... He failed to mention that...
VOLVO is Chinese and this guy is not telling the whole truth...
But that's how he gets his salary.. that's probably worth remembering...
Dont trust Norberg, he is lobbying for the wealthy and they dont give shit about poor or the workking man, he is a fraud.Why should i should pay his meals with my work...? His organisatiion are also funded with tax money..
@h0la0la ;) vi är internationella in till benen! om det av någon anledning skulle trilla in någon som inte pratar svenska vill vi att han ska förstå med :D
Although I strongly support free markets, I do concede that Sweden's socialized health care model is remarkable; nevertheless it is only ideal for small populations, and can only improve when competitive markets from abroad export medical advancements. Thus, it is NOT a rational model for America. What America's health care market needs is less federal regulation, fewer federal mandates, and more competition in order...
That this interview discomfits utopian idealists is understandable. The reality that research and development in the health care industry result from American competition and not a universal health care system can be rather painful to the dreamers.
Of course not, who said he was a representative of all Swedes? I agree about a lot of the things he says, please point out the things that aren't correct?
@jwillborg What he said that we don't tax the rich more than the poor is totally false. The tax system works with a 30% tax until you reach an income of 33k SEK (approx. $5000) per month. Once that income has been reached you pay 52% tax on every penny above the 33k.
This is and unbelievably narrow view of Sweden's successes and failures, filtered through the Cato Institute's Swedish mouthpiece. Notice here that every mention of wealth accruing to private companies is for Norberg an automatically legitimate social good. This generation of private wealth under capitalism is the single measure Norberg and co attach any significance to as they pass judgement on the development of human societies anywhere in the world. Very narrow commentary indeed.
@michaeljfreak It dosen't matter, because close to everyone in Sweden is, what US calles, overclass. Here it's called middleclass. We have the money, even if there are high taxes. Sure people sometimes complain about high prices, but it's nothing compared to our neighbouring states.
You don't parasite on the tax-paid health care, it's there for those who needs it, simple as that. And sure, the ones using the health care the most are also the ones who contributes the least money to society as they aren't as healthy, and that is the whole point. People who have more also give more to people who otherwise couldn't afford it if it was US style. Problem with capitalists is that they are so stuck on economical growth that they don't see other things.
Apparently, a lot of debaters from both sides of the spectrum fancy using Sweden as an example of this or that when it comes to economic theory.
Instead, you'd better get to know the changes Sweden actually has gone through.
A good starting point is this; why was Sweden the most successful nation from 1870-1970 in GDP growth, one of the least successful 1970-1990, but has for the last 20 years performed better than most, if not all, other industrialized nations?
@scholion What I wonder is where Sweden would be know if Sweden would continue in the same path as it did before the 70's when the "new" Social democrats took over..
people should focus on the ills of smoking, drinking & unprotected sex. then add the importance of regular exercise, relaxation & a good work ethic. people who follow these rules tend to be much healthier & less liable to get sick. that will ease the way for people who get sick for no fault of their own. prevention is better than cure.
just another way to keep americans believing that capitalism is the right way to go. then the business can go on as usual, giving wallstreet what they want.
@Swecan76 It sounds like you come from a 'certain perspective' yourself. A wrong perspective, in my view, when you look at the 'social democracies' these days in Europe, government spending is unsustainable, and the areas where the government steps in are the most ineffective areas. It's not a question about being left or right wing or in the middle, its about being right and not wrong, and its right to say the government is worse at providing goods and services than the private sector.
@Swecan76 It sounds like you come from a 'certain perspective' yourself. A wrong perspective, in my view, when you look at the 'social democracies' these days in Europe, government spending is unsustainable, and the areas where the government steps in are the most ineffective areas. It's not a question about being left or right wing or in the middle, its about being right and not wrong, and its right to say the government is simply worse at providing goods and services than the private sector.
@Swecan76 The video with Andreas Bergh on Sweden, that you also commented on, is very good at showing the different layers in their tax model, and how its different from the US. The use of words like 'pure selfishness' is misleading and provocative. Capitalists lost a major propaganda war years ago, how statism has become the bastion of all things moral, despite the avalanche of evidence to the contrary ill never know. I detect a little bit of confirmation bias and utopianism on your part.
Capitalism is necessary condition for freedom? No, being FREE has nothing to do with splurging money on irrelevant things (The american dream: Nice house, good looking family, nice car, great job) Freedom is being free, freedom isn't dependent on anything, you can create your own freedom, but because the world is turning more and more capitalistic, in order for you to be free - you have to have money.
I'm sure the Cato Institute payed him really well to say all of this with a small portion of their top 2% tax break. Parasite on America is a good phrase. We're not anywhere near socialism so what is he talking about.
Sweden's health care sector is significantly more innovative than America's on a per capita basis. America has over 30 times the population of Sweden, by far the largest developed country, America always looks amazing in whole numbers (GDP, military spending, etc), and this is what Norberg's bases his ideas on. Its health care system isn't even free market, there's regulations to ensure monopolies around every corner, you cant even import medicine from Canada, that's more unfree than Sweden's!
But as Milton Friedman said, you can have democracy, a social welfare state or free immigration but only two. Your country has been served up until recently by low immigration, tough assimilation, and a strong protestant cultural work ethic. Where do you stand on the immigration issue? In Sweden there may be no poverty, but in the US there is also none, among Swedes.
Jonas, the taxes are more progressive in Sweden. You have a more social democratic approach to welfare. Everyone participates through taxation, everyone benefits. In the US there is no VAT and the majority of the poor pay little to no taxes at all. In the US social welfare is plagued by inefficiency and only targets specific groups. Indeed there is a lot we can learn from you.
Well the taxes are still ridiculously high in Sweden and need to be lowered and it wouldn't affect the welfare society at all, just reduce the gain for unwanted greedy middlemen
About Obama´s wars, he inherited everyone of those wars from Mr Bush, plus the worst financial breakdown of our time. Can´t be easy to run a country with that start.
I don´t know how Mr Norberg can get away with fraud examples from reality but as a Swede I can tell you the taxes for rich are higher than poor in Sweden, on the contrary to Norbergs statement. We don´t throw those billions into a lake every year, you can be sure they contribute to the social welfare. Mr Norberg have had a personal political ideology since long and started to mix facts into it, but only parts that supports his earlier opinion. Sad to se "reason" tv does the same.
I am Swedish and can tell you with certainty that some of the "facts" Johan Norberg is stating here is exclusively personal theories.
His opinions is shared by a small minority of columnists or "experts".
Sweden has, for example, never ever been a purely liberal country, like he claims, but have had a mixture of socialism and liberal politics for decades.
Any of the Nordberg knockers care to present any evidence that he isn't telling the truth? Plenty of other sources suggest he is...as does the bare facts of Sweden's economic history. One suspects the die-hard Communists are the ones snarling at Nordberg as their destructive fallacy's come home to roost...
Johan Norberg is a bag of sh*t, and not representetive of the people in Sweden. The people did not vote on the right because people had great benefits, thats the worst analysis ever.
And no one in Sweden wants private health care except Norberg and his right wing buddies. If a party would even hint at that, they would get thrown out of office.
Of curse there is some problems with waiting times but everyone well get help when they need it, and of curse there are some bad examples just like any other countries. And NO USA should not adopt Sweden's welfare program, its built for sweden with 9 million people and not the US with 300 million. And Johan Norberg ain´t Impartial.
Capitalism gets a bad rap because it's not perfect, but show me something that is.
I like what Milton Friedman said about Capitalism. Someone mentioned all the horrors that happened in capitalist countries and he wisely answered "I never said that where you had Capitalism you had Freedom. I said the opposite; where you had Freedom you had Capitalism. Capitalism is not a substantial condition for Freedom; it's a necessary condition for Freedom."
@eatthatmeatball Appeal to authority, fallacy right there. Go w/ the facts. Not the one presenting them. Not disagree w/ Miltion, I agree w/ him but just giving you a heads :).
@HybridD91 Since I'm not an economist myself, just a laymen, I could never stand on my own two feet academically or publicly on my own merits alone.
It's a catch-22; if you do an appeal to authority, you get slammed for it, but since you don't have credentials of your own, you have no room to speak in the eyes of others, so you're obligated to name-drop to show you're not just a crazy person.
But Nobel Prize's are dumb now. Obama is in 2-3 wars right now and he won a Peace Prize. Go figure. =\
of course we have to have in mind that without people around us (with money),we have no business. even if some philanthropist could have handed out their profits themselves, called the "trickle down" effect, frequently used by Milton Friedman, this doesnt happend. america have no financial regulations left, they have turned their country into a crazy cow boy las vegas,but totally bankrupt.freedom does not stand for anything anymore. we are all trapped on this earth, dependent on each other.
In terms of social justice it's easy to conclude that the premises upon which the neo-liberalists are standing are false which make their ideologie unjust. But maybe you were not being ironic?
I just wanna say this right now, this guy being interviewed is extremely politically biased toward the right wing party Moderaterna. I want you to keep that in mind. A lot of what he's talking about is fact and history, but there's also a lot of flat out political opinions.
Sweden created wealth and became a developed first world nation through the same ways that every single other developed nation did: state-led industrialization and protectionism of the domestic market. It was the perfect mixture of capitalism with a large bulk of state guidance through regulations and subsidies.
No country becomes rich through free market-dominated policies unless they're already rich.
@flynn2008 Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea essentially followed the Japanese route by implementing heavy protection of native industries from foreign investment and high tariffs on imports. Many of the infrastructure was state-owned and firms received massive subsidies. Ireland and Estonia had financial liberalization, which is why they're a complete wreck now after the disaster of 2008. Botswana's growth stagnated after the IMF implemented structural adjustment by liberalizations in the 90s.
Many other countries in the bottom of index of economics freedom implemented managed trade policies, state owned industries and heavy central planing. Essentially in the index of economics freedom, these countries are at the bottom. But countries with liberalization of market, the freer they are, the higher its rank with higher standard of living comes with it.
@flynn2008 You are correct about that, especially for China and India which both had fascistic restrictions on its economy. India's attempt to rely solely on domestic products have failed too, that is why they're liberalizing.
The reason why the developed world can have a freer market is because they have industries that are at the top. In other words, they can easily compete in the global market against inferior third world firms and destroy them. But they all reached there through the state.
@radomu1 It seems to me that Laissez-faire made the west where it is today. Even countries with little natural resources in Europe have been able to offer goods and services (highly efficiently) to warrant a very high standard of living.
We let Laissez-faire build up our economies, and then we felt the need to turn interventionist again. All we are doing is regulating and taxing existing wealth, while the creation of new wealth is retarded due to an anti-business/anti free market gov mentality.
@groam6666 A laissez-faire capitalist society has never existed as far as I know. Every rich country now has gotten rich through pro-business protectionism by various means. Since the last three decades or so, many poor countries are being violated the rights to protect their infant industries, which is why their collective growth rate has declined overall.
You have to abandon ideology and look at historical reality.
@radomu1 That's semi true. Countries have benefited in spite of protectionism and regulation. The greater freedom from government control however, means much more economic growth. For example, Hong Kong has done wonders.
Protectionism was never the cause of a growing economy. It has always retarded the growth of an economy. The U.S. has very tiny tariffs on Africa, yet Africa has very high tariffs to "protect" their industries. Africa as a whole is not capitalist, but rather crony capitalism.
@groam6666 Consumers benefit, but not native industries.
Protectionism has always been the cause of not just growth, but development. This includes the Britain, the US, Japan, Korea, and pretty much every developed nation out there. The possible exception, as you stated, is Hong Kong, but they had a lot of developmental support from London for being a colony.
Africa has been having free trade shoved down their throats in the past three decades, do you know what you're talking about?
@radomu1 Africa has no free trade. The EU, along with other trade blocks put heavy tariffs on finished African products, and even food. Then African countries raise tariffs as well. That seems to be the system you advocate for, or at least the effects of no free trade. I fail to see how this is beneficial to Africa. The EU loves this situation, and because there is no free trade, Africa is exploited.
Would you support a similar tariff like the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930?
@groam6666 Take a look at Kenya for example. They had stable growth until the 1980's under reasonable regulations on commerce. Then came the waves of privatizations and deregulations, which has led to the destruction of growing Kenyan firms. Now it is increasingly harder for the developing states to use tariffs thanks to the transformation of GATT to the WTO. If developing countries can protect native industries, then it creates jobs for native manufacturers. That's how we did it here in Japan.
@radomu1 Your assuming that other countries will not retaliate with tariffs of their own, which is almost always the case. Remember that economic growth has been most rapid when tariffs decline.
@groam6666 No, that's is not true at all. You have to look at the numbers as I keep telling you. There is overwhelming historical evidence that suggest that growth is the fastest during protective periods. By the time the nation reaches adulthood as a full-fledged manufacturing economy, there are less needs for protection because natively made products can compete with the imports.
If Japan didn't put tariffs on foreign-built cars after the war, then Toyota or Honda won't exist by now.
@groam6666 How will you swallow the fact that the US, Britain, Germany, Japan, South Korea, and contrary to what this guy states, every country in Scandinavia, had the most protective policies when they had ridiculous levels of economic growth?
The US had the highest tariffs in the world during the Gilded Age at around 45%, and that's when the United States overtook Britain to become the wealthiest nation on Earth by the late 19th century.
@radomu1 Would you support a similar tariff like the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930? Tariffs are simply destructive, and force consumers to pay higher prices for goods they would not need to produce themselves.
The USSR grew economically as well, but that does not mean heavy intervention is the best way to maximize economic growth. Africa already is protectionist of their infant industries, and yet its disastrous. You say protectionism is great, but you agree it hurts other countries.
@groam6666 They can certainly be destructive to consumers and industries that depend on foreign imports. That's why the Southern planters didn't like tariffs because they wanted cheaper commodities from Europe rather than ones made in the North.
Economics is not black and white. I'm not saying tariffs are always the best answer to everything, but it's a historically-proven method to develop the industrial base.
@radomu1 Would you support a similar tariff like the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930? I'm going to keep asking lol.
I see what you mean by developing an industrial base. But, that took a very long time, and Africa does not have to go through it. They would be much better off letting others invest in their countries, but also fighting to reduce tariffs. Who's going to invest capital in a country that other countries put placed retaliatory tariffs on? Some can get away with it, but not Africa.
@radomu1 Africa lacks the infrastructure, incentives, and is put at a severe disadvantage with EU tariffs, Chinese currency manipulation, etc. Tariffs have only compounded the problem there. This is why I hate trade blocks, and why I support free trade in an unregulated marketplace.
I do see your point though. However, I am not convinced that tariffs are the best way to attract capital.
@groam6666 I'm not saying they are, but free trade will destroy weaker industries with overwhelming competition. Why do I have to keep telling you this?
Sweden created wealth when we stod outside worldwar 2 and still used 50 procent for industrial investment. The time when sweden created was the time when the state was most controlling, but our industrial story was very much like America. We didnt get bombed and prospered from that.
I can go on and on but the conclusion is that ive never heard so much total lies in a short program of sweden before,,,, fox , your number two.
The only reason why the monetary mesurments (GDP etc) of sweden have been pointing in a positive direction for the last 10 years is because the current Gov. is selling swedens infrastructure to corporations.
Money is a fucking religion. We value money more than we value human life.
Sweden was once somewhat of a paradise for a short period, now it´s completely ruined and this country is QUICKLY becoming an islamic state without money, jobs, healthcare....happiness is endangered in the swedish population, I am ashamed of living here.
Alla som är lite så där insatta i politiken här i Sverige, vet ju att Johan Nordberg är en idiot, VÄLDIGT mycket medicin här i världen kommer ju faktiskt från Sverige och uppfinns och utvecklas här. Johan är ett liberalt pucko som aldrig kommer att uppnå någon form av "kändis-"status eller överhuvudtaget uppmärksammans för sin politik.
It’s sad to read the comments from the Progressive/Leftists. I use to believe their myths too, but as I started educating myself in economics and history, I realized that their belief system is the greatest threat to humanity. For any Leftists with an open mind, I’d suggest reading “The Science of Liberty” by Timothy Ferris and/or “Economics in One Lesson” by Henry Hazlitt.
@uwed100 well if anybody did I'd say he'd say that the bail outs are the proof that libertarianism works... what you think bail outs is neoliberalism? haha... where on earth did you get that idea? is the total opposite! its called corporate WELFARE for a reason... you're redistributing the wealth... not with liberalized policies but with government intervention, yet to the wrong people... you're simply contradicting yourself by stating that you hate government intervention... nice work! ;D
*Myth: US low taxes vs northern european high taxes.
*Reality: US corporate tax is the world´s highest (40%). In Sweden, Denmark and Finland it is below the EU average (25% flat)
*Myth: US racism vs northern european tolerance
* Reality: There are more illegal aliens in US than people living in Sweden and Denmark combined. The Danish immigration and asylum laws are the toughest in Europe, together with the swiss.
sry nope he is liobertarian he ist not right. and second.... you dont know anything about the economic crisism, which was caused by government. YES Government because of low interest rates which blow up the money suplly + freddi and feannie, no downpayment, moral hazards and alot or fixing in the housing market
When govt taxes rich & middleclass to give "free" services,it undercuts their savings which otherwise they'd've put into business, directly or indirectly (thru banks), which creates MORE jobs,more goods/services & hence lower prices which help poor the most; if govt taxes then NONE of the above happens & most of the money goes into pockets of politicians & bureaucrats & whatever LITTLE remains is used INEFFICIENTLY since govt is a NON-PROFIT MONOPOLY that doesn't've fear going out of business
@MIXMASTAPWN Sweden is one of the world leaders in research of astma, heart problems, cancer and Parkinson. They are working together with US researchers in Parkinson. For example, the celebrity Michael J. Fox resently gave the Swedish researchers in Malmoe 500 000$ for research i Parkinson.
Norberg really is frightening. Sure we need blue winds in our socialist sociaty, but Norberg is just too much. And in this video he really is disgusting :p
Johan Norberg is either totally in lack of intellective, or he is just making him self look good for the right-wingers in the US. True that we have Waiting lines in the healthcare. But it is not true that there is in the papers every day that someone is dieing from something major, but are forced to wait in lines that will kill the person.
It´s not true that Sweden are "freeriding" on US healthcare tech and medicine. Not much actually of what he says is true.
@MrTigerhockey actually most of what he said is true. sweden lacks in medical innovation because the incentive isn't there. incentive is driven by money which sweden doesn't have much of. its more affordable for the country milk off the US technology. without a capitalist market in the picture swedens health care would be much worse.
Comparing the Sweedish system with the US is apples and oranges. Sweeden is NOT overpopulated with imigrants like in the US. The nasty cold climat doesn't appeal to most immigrants looking for "free" healthcare. Plus, Sweeden has stronger immigration laws.
There's no such thing as free healthcare. It's payed with high taxes (triple the amount of the US) by their citizens.
Americans want free healthcare but don't want higher taxes. It can't happen.
This guy is a right wing supporter - they talk exactly like this idiot.
Novousify 1 week ago
dont want to say much about this clip exect that it is very biast and that the economic crizis of 2008 proved this guy a fool.
PehrBl 2 weeks ago 2
@michaeljfreak
Yes, but it invites higher prices, which pays of for the rich and not the poor.
DanielSeriously 1 month ago
One problem with this video; this guy isn't objective, he's a liberal with a conservative agenda. If people from outside of Sweden takes everything he says at face value (because he's a Swede and must know what he's talking about) they'll get the wrong image of Sweden.
Kind of reminds me of that slogan "fair and balanced" and we all know how true that is... not.
nisslaz 1 month ago 4
I really hate that sweden has left the socialism a bit. I love "social demokraterna" and it bothers me that they arent in charge
TheSweetaffroman 1 month ago
@TheSweetaffroman If the right wing wins the next Swedish election they will mess up our country totally!
Melchersson 1 month ago
first world problems. moan moan we aren't as perfect as some say so our system is bad.
MrLowkeynz 1 month ago
Based on the trends, Sweden is becoming the next real free country. The government is shrinking, slowly but surely.
Soon enough Sweden will be Europe's Hong Kong, while the US and eurozone become the new USSR.
Can't wait to move to the land of the midnight sun
Spjungen 1 month ago
@Spjungen Hopefully we'll stop that from happening - we don't want to become another corrupt united states.
Novousify 1 week ago
I've never understood this need for "growth".
Anyone with half a brain will realize that the earth doesn't get 8-10% bigger each year.
uruson 1 month ago 9
@uruson "growth" is what brought you every nice thing you have, not to mention an extra 20 years of life expectancy over the 3rd world
jonny282 1 month ago
@jonny282
Science and the accumulation of knowledge has indeed brought me "every nice thing I have", and I'm very grateful to live in the time I do, where I can reap the benefits of our ancestors while carrying on their continual struggle to improve the condition of man.
When I refer to the earth, it should be quite clear that I'm referring to material things.
uruson 1 month ago
@uruson
You want the same living standard (for health, entertainement, travel, food) as in 1900?
clustertm512 1 week ago
@clustertm512 There may very well be a comment addressing the concern you express, but I wouldn't know as I, like you, didn't bother looking.
uruson 1 week ago
@uruson Earth doesn't but so what? Do you understand that without economic growth you want to have Chinese/Indians/Africans stay as poor as they are?
mootant 6 days ago
@mootant Either you're intentionally missing the point, or you're just very dense.
In the first case, you don't deserve a response, and in the second case, you wouldn't understand it if you did get one.
I wish you luck in your quest to misunderstand comments on Youtube.
uruson 6 days ago
@uruson It's you that's missing the point. Let me repeat what you said with slight modifications. It's year 1800. Earth doesn't get bigger every year. But people's conditions DO get better every year because they learn how to get more out of acre of land and because of technological progress. If anyone in 1800 said that growth is bad, Earth is finite and so on he'd be simply wrong.
The only difference is that you're around year 2010 and say the same thing.
mootant 6 days ago
@mootant I dislike how Economics seem not to be tied to the earth.
A much better model would be to estimate the value of everything inside the earth, followed by estimating how much we can access, after which you set the price.
Then you would evaluate the costs of your options:
1. Come up with ways to access more of the earth.
2. Re-use what you have.
3. ...New sources.
uruson 5 days ago
@uruson Because mined resources stay close to the earth surface.
mootant 5 days ago
@mootant As I didn't ask any questions in my replies, do you have a point to go with that sentence?
uruson 5 days ago
@uruson Your whole reasoning how it's bad not to include the cost of using up the resources in the long term makes no sense because of that. Once resources are taken to the surface they mostly stay there and can be cheaply reused.
mootant 5 days ago
@mootant Exponential growth does not work when it's tied to any finite resource.
And what you speak of is clearly covered in my comment under "Re-use".
uruson 5 days ago
@mootant You immediately run into problems if you set up a system reliant on exponential growth.
In any case, "growth" does not equal "improvement", as you seem to claim.
You can improve without growth, and you can grow without improvement.
Person X lacks T, whilst persons Y and Z have one each.
They do not often use T, and the three of them could easily be accommodated by a single one along with a usage schedule.
uruson 5 days ago
@michaeljfreak Taxes, my friend, not taxates.
I think that's a bad thing personally because it undermines personal freedom. Consumption is limited by how much money you have; if you spend all your money on an expensive car, it's your own fault for doing that. Personal responsibility is in itself enough of a disincentive to not waste your money. Taxing it won't help because that just leaves you with less money.
Spjungen 1 month ago
Yeah sure, I'm gonna trust a snob from Södermalm and take his claims into judgement concerning this topic. Here's a tip for y'all: If you want to do something to solve Africans dying of thirst, don't go ask the guy who owns three millions water bottles and doesn't want to share. Odds are that he won't say that they can take a few of his.
truffyt 1 month ago
Okay, this was a short interview, but I'm not very impressed by his analysis. It sounded like a very traditional Swedish right-wing opinion piece. If you know anything about the Swedish system, you won't learn anything new here.
ShmoothBall 1 month ago
@michaeljfreak And that also means producers won't be making "unnecessary" things. Lower production = fewer jobs.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@michaeljfreak No. It reduces consumption all together. There is no distinction made between over and under. Consumption tax is regressive and reduces demand.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
Funny... Ericsson Telecom was one the first companies to dump Sweden when we joined EU (after pressuring their employees to vote yes to the EU) in the 90's... were is it now ?
Oh yeah, it didn't survive and was bought up by Sony... He failed to mention that...
VOLVO is Chinese and this guy is not telling the whole truth...
But that's how he gets his salary.. that's probably worth remembering...
Always check the facts behind the statements...
Peekingduck 1 month ago
Dont trust Norberg, he is lobbying for the wealthy and they dont give shit about poor or the workking man, he is a fraud.Why should i should pay his meals with my work...? His organisatiion are also funded with tax money..
idiotjim 1 month ago
no ideology or system is perfect
poshnile 1 month ago
Freedom didn't exist on this planet before Capitalism, no really, it's true, honest ... trust us.
CusterFlux 2 months ago
@CusterFlux If you're being sarcastic,can you show us examples of free societies that do not have large elements of capitalism?
FitnessByMatt 2 months ago
älskar att alla skriver på engelska när i princip alla som ser på klipp om sverige är svenskar
h0la0la 2 months ago 33
@h0la0la ;) vi är internationella in till benen! om det av någon anledning skulle trilla in någon som inte pratar svenska vill vi att han ska förstå med :D
MasterOfFlash92 2 months ago 2
Johan Norberg is a neoliberal Cato Institute Koch brothers paid corporate whore.
lethalidiotz 2 months ago
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@lethalidiotz neoliberal = social democracy
paunocu666 1 month ago
...in order to advance the health care of Americans and Swedes alike.
CrackedBiscuit 3 months ago
Although I strongly support free markets, I do concede that Sweden's socialized health care model is remarkable; nevertheless it is only ideal for small populations, and can only improve when competitive markets from abroad export medical advancements. Thus, it is NOT a rational model for America. What America's health care market needs is less federal regulation, fewer federal mandates, and more competition in order...
CrackedBiscuit 3 months ago
That this interview discomfits utopian idealists is understandable. The reality that research and development in the health care industry result from American competition and not a universal health care system can be rather painful to the dreamers.
CrackedBiscuit 3 months ago
Such a fucking dick, his opinions does not reflect a lot of Swede's view of things.
simon9201 3 months ago
@simon9201
Of course not, who said he was a representative of all Swedes? I agree about a lot of the things he says, please point out the things that aren't correct?
jwillborg 3 months ago
@jwillborg What he said that we don't tax the rich more than the poor is totally false. The tax system works with a 30% tax until you reach an income of 33k SEK (approx. $5000) per month. Once that income has been reached you pay 52% tax on every penny above the 33k.
henrikwikstroem 3 months ago
Agreed. Sweden is neither capitalist or socialist, it's damn good mix of both!
Gabbsmo 3 months ago 3
This is and unbelievably narrow view of Sweden's successes and failures, filtered through the Cato Institute's Swedish mouthpiece. Notice here that every mention of wealth accruing to private companies is for Norberg an automatically legitimate social good. This generation of private wealth under capitalism is the single measure Norberg and co attach any significance to as they pass judgement on the development of human societies anywhere in the world. Very narrow commentary indeed.
Sumotechno 3 months ago
@michaeljfreak Sales tax DON'T take into account the income and that's why it's most hurtful to the poor.
tjohn1986 3 months ago
@michaeljfreak No consumption/sales tax is the worst for the poor.
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Liberals and this guy have destroyed Sweden.
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JonasAnonym 3 months ago
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@aikfanat Vad har Herr Norberg med Populistpartiet Socialdemokraterna att göra?
What does Mister Norberg with the Populist Party, the Social Democrats to do?
JonasAnonym 3 months ago
@michaeljfreak It dosen't matter, because close to everyone in Sweden is, what US calles, overclass. Here it's called middleclass. We have the money, even if there are high taxes. Sure people sometimes complain about high prices, but it's nothing compared to our neighbouring states.
SwedenZooFilm 4 months ago
You don't parasite on the tax-paid health care, it's there for those who needs it, simple as that. And sure, the ones using the health care the most are also the ones who contributes the least money to society as they aren't as healthy, and that is the whole point. People who have more also give more to people who otherwise couldn't afford it if it was US style. Problem with capitalists is that they are so stuck on economical growth that they don't see other things.
Korvmannen 4 months ago
jävla idiot
SibeGroth 4 months ago
-_-''
sweYoda2 4 months ago
Apparently, a lot of debaters from both sides of the spectrum fancy using Sweden as an example of this or that when it comes to economic theory.
Instead, you'd better get to know the changes Sweden actually has gone through.
A good starting point is this; why was Sweden the most successful nation from 1870-1970 in GDP growth, one of the least successful 1970-1990, but has for the last 20 years performed better than most, if not all, other industrialized nations?
scholion 4 months ago
@scholion What I wonder is where Sweden would be know if Sweden would continue in the same path as it did before the 70's when the "new" Social democrats took over..
trapedd 3 months ago 2
people should focus on the ills of smoking, drinking & unprotected sex. then add the importance of regular exercise, relaxation & a good work ethic. people who follow these rules tend to be much healthier & less liable to get sick. that will ease the way for people who get sick for no fault of their own. prevention is better than cure.
nayanmalig 4 months ago
just another way to keep americans believing that capitalism is the right way to go. then the business can go on as usual, giving wallstreet what they want.
kyuukohan 4 months ago
When he talks about ALL Swedish health care products is American and the Science and stuff, he is a FUCKING MORON.
Also last time I checked Phillips and Siemens, Samsung etc is NOT AMERICAN companies.
They make most medical machines.
So he was talking a lot of bull there, Sweden is at the forefront.
Nobel prize is in Sweden.
Also Swedish people DON'T wait if they have a serious illness, fucking IDIOT.
On occasion it has happened cause of error.
Swecan76 5 months ago
When he talks about ALL Swedish health care products is American and the Science and stuff, he is a FUCKING MORON.
Sure the hospitals have lots of American equipment, but Sweden it self is a pioneer in Medical Science and Science at large.
Also last time I checked Phillips and Siemens is NOT AMERICAN companies.
In fact they are Netherlands and German, They make most medical machines.
Such as MRI etc.
So he was talking a lot of bull there, Sweden is at the forefront.
Nobel prize is in Sweden.
Swecan76 5 months ago
@Swecan76 And Phillips and Siemens introduce their fancy new MRIs to the German and Dutch markets first, right....?
fab006 3 months ago
people have to understand when watching this.
It's a one sides topic, it's like ONLY watching Republicans and Fox news in USA.
A skewed picture. He might be right about some things but he is not a know it all.
He comes form a certain perspective.
capitalism is good only if it is backed by a support of the people as well, what you call a welfare state.
It should NOT be leftist, but not RIght wing either. But a balanced middle ground.
Swecan76 5 months ago
@Swecan76 It sounds like you come from a 'certain perspective' yourself. A wrong perspective, in my view, when you look at the 'social democracies' these days in Europe, government spending is unsustainable, and the areas where the government steps in are the most ineffective areas. It's not a question about being left or right wing or in the middle, its about being right and not wrong, and its right to say the government is worse at providing goods and services than the private sector.
spader49 5 months ago
@Swecan76 It sounds like you come from a 'certain perspective' yourself. A wrong perspective, in my view, when you look at the 'social democracies' these days in Europe, government spending is unsustainable, and the areas where the government steps in are the most ineffective areas. It's not a question about being left or right wing or in the middle, its about being right and not wrong, and its right to say the government is simply worse at providing goods and services than the private sector.
spader49 5 months ago
@spader49
No, it's just a bunch of ass-kissing of American Capitalism, which is clearly falling a part.
We're heading for another recession because of USA and the way they act.
Their lending capability went from triple A to AA+.
All the GOP think about is having low taxes and ME, ME, ME.
Swedish model works cause it's not based on pure selfishness.
It's a free market economy with regulations to a degree,low corporate taxes.
It works
The BS he speaks about Swedish health care, is astonishing
Swecan76 5 months ago
@Swecan76 The video with Andreas Bergh on Sweden, that you also commented on, is very good at showing the different layers in their tax model, and how its different from the US. The use of words like 'pure selfishness' is misleading and provocative. Capitalists lost a major propaganda war years ago, how statism has become the bastion of all things moral, despite the avalanche of evidence to the contrary ill never know. I detect a little bit of confirmation bias and utopianism on your part.
spader49 5 months ago
@spader49 Probably to some degree, my rose tinted glasses are newly polished ;).
Swecan76 5 months ago
The lower taxes (for the poor-normal people) is around 30%, the rich pay 50% and MORE in taxes.
cracktober 5 months ago
Capitalism is necessary condition for freedom? No, being FREE has nothing to do with splurging money on irrelevant things (The american dream: Nice house, good looking family, nice car, great job) Freedom is being free, freedom isn't dependent on anything, you can create your own freedom, but because the world is turning more and more capitalistic, in order for you to be free - you have to have money.
cracktober 5 months ago
I'm sure the Cato Institute payed him really well to say all of this with a small portion of their top 2% tax break. Parasite on America is a good phrase. We're not anywhere near socialism so what is he talking about.
halycyon1234 6 months ago
The problem is that Sweden is dependent on America bankrupting it's poor so that the US can defend the European wasteland.
halycyon1234 6 months ago
Sweden's health care sector is significantly more innovative than America's on a per capita basis. America has over 30 times the population of Sweden, by far the largest developed country, America always looks amazing in whole numbers (GDP, military spending, etc), and this is what Norberg's bases his ideas on. Its health care system isn't even free market, there's regulations to ensure monopolies around every corner, you cant even import medicine from Canada, that's more unfree than Sweden's!
maximummask 6 months ago
Johan Norberg is stupid. He is a shame of our country.
Nordbifrost 6 months ago
@Nordbifrost I doubt you´re anywhere near him on an intellectual level.
antibulletdodger101 5 months ago
But as Milton Friedman said, you can have democracy, a social welfare state or free immigration but only two. Your country has been served up until recently by low immigration, tough assimilation, and a strong protestant cultural work ethic. Where do you stand on the immigration issue? In Sweden there may be no poverty, but in the US there is also none, among Swedes.
mitziedoll 6 months ago
Jonas, the taxes are more progressive in Sweden. You have a more social democratic approach to welfare. Everyone participates through taxation, everyone benefits. In the US there is no VAT and the majority of the poor pay little to no taxes at all. In the US social welfare is plagued by inefficiency and only targets specific groups. Indeed there is a lot we can learn from you.
mitziedoll 6 months ago
Johan Norberg is a moron. Most tech comes from Korea and Japan. The research comes from Sweden. ! (In health care)
Octavice 6 months ago
Well the taxes are still ridiculously high in Sweden and need to be lowered and it wouldn't affect the welfare society at all, just reduce the gain for unwanted greedy middlemen
ByabyaChannel 6 months ago
this guy is an idiot and a shame to sweden
ilirigo 6 months ago
About Obama´s wars, he inherited everyone of those wars from Mr Bush, plus the worst financial breakdown of our time. Can´t be easy to run a country with that start.
jonaslundstroem 6 months ago
I don´t know how Mr Norberg can get away with fraud examples from reality but as a Swede I can tell you the taxes for rich are higher than poor in Sweden, on the contrary to Norbergs statement. We don´t throw those billions into a lake every year, you can be sure they contribute to the social welfare. Mr Norberg have had a personal political ideology since long and started to mix facts into it, but only parts that supports his earlier opinion. Sad to se "reason" tv does the same.
jonaslundstroem 6 months ago
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I am Swedish and can tell you with certainty that some of the "facts" Johan Norberg is stating here is exclusively personal theories.
His opinions is shared by a small minority of columnists or "experts".
Sweden has, for example, never ever been a purely liberal country, like he claims, but have had a mixture of socialism and liberal politics for decades.
jonaslundstroem 6 months ago
Douche
TheMrboder 6 months ago
wait what? taxing rich people will destroy the economy? what?
Spyflugan91 7 months ago
Any of the Nordberg knockers care to present any evidence that he isn't telling the truth? Plenty of other sources suggest he is...as does the bare facts of Sweden's economic history. One suspects the die-hard Communists are the ones snarling at Nordberg as their destructive fallacy's come home to roost...
Riellysdad 7 months ago
Johan Norberg is a bag of sh*t, and not representetive of the people in Sweden. The people did not vote on the right because people had great benefits, thats the worst analysis ever.
And no one in Sweden wants private health care except Norberg and his right wing buddies. If a party would even hint at that, they would get thrown out of office.
Tuomixx 7 months ago 2
@Tuomixx to be fair Sweden does all of its medical R and D in private companies set up by Sweden in the free market in America
ajgolfer1 7 months ago
Johan Norberg is so full of lies.
Of curse there is some problems with waiting times but everyone well get help when they need it, and of curse there are some bad examples just like any other countries. And NO USA should not adopt Sweden's welfare program, its built for sweden with 9 million people and not the US with 300 million. And Johan Norberg ain´t Impartial.
marhen4283 8 months ago
Capitalism gets a bad rap because it's not perfect, but show me something that is.
I like what Milton Friedman said about Capitalism. Someone mentioned all the horrors that happened in capitalist countries and he wisely answered "I never said that where you had Capitalism you had Freedom. I said the opposite; where you had Freedom you had Capitalism. Capitalism is not a substantial condition for Freedom; it's a necessary condition for Freedom."
I'm going with the Nobel Laureate on this one.
eatthatmeatball 8 months ago 27
@eatthatmeatball Appeal to authority, fallacy right there. Go w/ the facts. Not the one presenting them. Not disagree w/ Miltion, I agree w/ him but just giving you a heads :).
HybridD91 7 months ago
@HybridD91 Since I'm not an economist myself, just a laymen, I could never stand on my own two feet academically or publicly on my own merits alone.
It's a catch-22; if you do an appeal to authority, you get slammed for it, but since you don't have credentials of your own, you have no room to speak in the eyes of others, so you're obligated to name-drop to show you're not just a crazy person.
But Nobel Prize's are dumb now. Obama is in 2-3 wars right now and he won a Peace Prize. Go figure. =\
eatthatmeatball 6 months ago
of course we have to have in mind that without people around us (with money),we have no business. even if some philanthropist could have handed out their profits themselves, called the "trickle down" effect, frequently used by Milton Friedman, this doesnt happend. america have no financial regulations left, they have turned their country into a crazy cow boy las vegas,but totally bankrupt.freedom does not stand for anything anymore. we are all trapped on this earth, dependent on each other.
kyuukohan 1 month ago
We don't have capitalism. We have CORPORATIVISM.
That is why there is an upcoming new classical liberal party.
Goverment is in the pocket of big corporations.
We also don't have much of a constitution compared to the US.
ToxinalX 8 months ago
I'm very sorry, but he is disgusting..... such a neo-liberal misstaker.
hanneshognert 9 months ago
@hanneshognert
quite an intelligent response.
aceriggs 8 months ago
@aceriggs
In terms of social justice it's easy to conclude that the premises upon which the neo-liberalists are standing are false which make their ideologie unjust. But maybe you were not being ironic?
hanneshognert 8 months ago
LOL while on ikea chairs.
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Arazoid 9 months ago
I just wanna say this right now, this guy being interviewed is extremely politically biased toward the right wing party Moderaterna. I want you to keep that in mind. A lot of what he's talking about is fact and history, but there's also a lot of flat out political opinions.
BloodTal0n 9 months ago
He's biased simply because he works for the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 Nevertheless, politically biased. ;)
Very obscenely so in some statements. That's why I thought people should keep it in mind.
BloodTal0n 9 months ago
Sweden created wealth and became a developed first world nation through the same ways that every single other developed nation did: state-led industrialization and protectionism of the domestic market. It was the perfect mixture of capitalism with a large bulk of state guidance through regulations and subsidies.
No country becomes rich through free market-dominated policies unless they're already rich.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 Dumbest comment I've ever read. It fails on so many levels.
xploddan 9 months ago
@xploddan When's the last time a country became a first world economy under the free market?
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1
Ever heard of Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Botswana, Estonia, and Ireland.
flynn2008 9 months ago
@flynn2008 Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea essentially followed the Japanese route by implementing heavy protection of native industries from foreign investment and high tariffs on imports. Many of the infrastructure was state-owned and firms received massive subsidies. Ireland and Estonia had financial liberalization, which is why they're a complete wreck now after the disaster of 2008. Botswana's growth stagnated after the IMF implemented structural adjustment by liberalizations in the 90s.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1
Many other countries in the bottom of index of economics freedom implemented managed trade policies, state owned industries and heavy central planing. Essentially in the index of economics freedom, these countries are at the bottom. But countries with liberalization of market, the freer they are, the higher its rank with higher standard of living comes with it.
flynn2008 9 months ago
@flynn2008 You are correct about that, especially for China and India which both had fascistic restrictions on its economy. India's attempt to rely solely on domestic products have failed too, that is why they're liberalizing.
The reason why the developed world can have a freer market is because they have industries that are at the top. In other words, they can easily compete in the global market against inferior third world firms and destroy them. But they all reached there through the state.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 It seems to me that Laissez-faire made the west where it is today. Even countries with little natural resources in Europe have been able to offer goods and services (highly efficiently) to warrant a very high standard of living.
We let Laissez-faire build up our economies, and then we felt the need to turn interventionist again. All we are doing is regulating and taxing existing wealth, while the creation of new wealth is retarded due to an anti-business/anti free market gov mentality.
groam6666 9 months ago
@groam6666 A laissez-faire capitalist society has never existed as far as I know. Every rich country now has gotten rich through pro-business protectionism by various means. Since the last three decades or so, many poor countries are being violated the rights to protect their infant industries, which is why their collective growth rate has declined overall.
You have to abandon ideology and look at historical reality.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 That's semi true. Countries have benefited in spite of protectionism and regulation. The greater freedom from government control however, means much more economic growth. For example, Hong Kong has done wonders.
Protectionism was never the cause of a growing economy. It has always retarded the growth of an economy. The U.S. has very tiny tariffs on Africa, yet Africa has very high tariffs to "protect" their industries. Africa as a whole is not capitalist, but rather crony capitalism.
groam6666 9 months ago
@groam6666 Consumers benefit, but not native industries.
Protectionism has always been the cause of not just growth, but development. This includes the Britain, the US, Japan, Korea, and pretty much every developed nation out there. The possible exception, as you stated, is Hong Kong, but they had a lot of developmental support from London for being a colony.
Africa has been having free trade shoved down their throats in the past three decades, do you know what you're talking about?
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 Africa has no free trade. The EU, along with other trade blocks put heavy tariffs on finished African products, and even food. Then African countries raise tariffs as well. That seems to be the system you advocate for, or at least the effects of no free trade. I fail to see how this is beneficial to Africa. The EU loves this situation, and because there is no free trade, Africa is exploited.
Would you support a similar tariff like the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930?
groam6666 9 months ago
@groam6666 Take a look at Kenya for example. They had stable growth until the 1980's under reasonable regulations on commerce. Then came the waves of privatizations and deregulations, which has led to the destruction of growing Kenyan firms. Now it is increasingly harder for the developing states to use tariffs thanks to the transformation of GATT to the WTO. If developing countries can protect native industries, then it creates jobs for native manufacturers. That's how we did it here in Japan.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 Your assuming that other countries will not retaliate with tariffs of their own, which is almost always the case. Remember that economic growth has been most rapid when tariffs decline.
groam6666 9 months ago
@groam6666 No, that's is not true at all. You have to look at the numbers as I keep telling you. There is overwhelming historical evidence that suggest that growth is the fastest during protective periods. By the time the nation reaches adulthood as a full-fledged manufacturing economy, there are less needs for protection because natively made products can compete with the imports.
If Japan didn't put tariffs on foreign-built cars after the war, then Toyota or Honda won't exist by now.
radomu1 9 months ago
@groam6666 How will you swallow the fact that the US, Britain, Germany, Japan, South Korea, and contrary to what this guy states, every country in Scandinavia, had the most protective policies when they had ridiculous levels of economic growth?
The US had the highest tariffs in the world during the Gilded Age at around 45%, and that's when the United States overtook Britain to become the wealthiest nation on Earth by the late 19th century.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 Would you support a similar tariff like the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930? Tariffs are simply destructive, and force consumers to pay higher prices for goods they would not need to produce themselves.
The USSR grew economically as well, but that does not mean heavy intervention is the best way to maximize economic growth. Africa already is protectionist of their infant industries, and yet its disastrous. You say protectionism is great, but you agree it hurts other countries.
groam6666 9 months ago
@groam6666 They can certainly be destructive to consumers and industries that depend on foreign imports. That's why the Southern planters didn't like tariffs because they wanted cheaper commodities from Europe rather than ones made in the North.
Economics is not black and white. I'm not saying tariffs are always the best answer to everything, but it's a historically-proven method to develop the industrial base.
radomu1 9 months ago
@radomu1 Would you support a similar tariff like the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930? I'm going to keep asking lol.
I see what you mean by developing an industrial base. But, that took a very long time, and Africa does not have to go through it. They would be much better off letting others invest in their countries, but also fighting to reduce tariffs. Who's going to invest capital in a country that other countries put placed retaliatory tariffs on? Some can get away with it, but not Africa.
groam6666 9 months ago
@radomu1 Africa lacks the infrastructure, incentives, and is put at a severe disadvantage with EU tariffs, Chinese currency manipulation, etc. Tariffs have only compounded the problem there. This is why I hate trade blocks, and why I support free trade in an unregulated marketplace.
I do see your point though. However, I am not convinced that tariffs are the best way to attract capital.
groam6666 9 months ago
@groam6666 I'm not saying they are, but free trade will destroy weaker industries with overwhelming competition. Why do I have to keep telling you this?
radomu1 9 months ago
Sweden created wealth when we stod outside worldwar 2 and still used 50 procent for industrial investment. The time when sweden created was the time when the state was most controlling, but our industrial story was very much like America. We didnt get bombed and prospered from that.
I can go on and on but the conclusion is that ive never heard so much total lies in a short program of sweden before,,,, fox , your number two.
aon10003 9 months ago
The only reason why the monetary mesurments (GDP etc) of sweden have been pointing in a positive direction for the last 10 years is because the current Gov. is selling swedens infrastructure to corporations.
Money is a fucking religion. We value money more than we value human life.
Noxictyz 9 months ago
skulle en moderat sitta och tala om politik när han talar om sverige? pfff
phille22 10 months ago
Sweden was once somewhat of a paradise for a short period, now it´s completely ruined and this country is QUICKLY becoming an islamic state without money, jobs, healthcare....happiness is endangered in the swedish population, I am ashamed of living here.
neuroleptika 10 months ago
@neuroleptika Rofl, bullshit. Om du skäms så mycket, you can giit out.
Monscent 9 months ago
@Monscent Öppna dina ögon och se verkligheten du lever i
neuroleptika 9 months ago
@neuroleptika Gör detsamma du. Säger igen, om det är så fruktansvärt hemskt här att du skäms för Sverige, dra? Det står dig fritt fram att göra.
Monscent 9 months ago
Who the fuck is paying this fuckin this fuckin neo liberal mouthpiece, lyin pig. ? Fuck Him. And fuck you, ReasonTV.
ANTIDALLARD 10 months ago
what a joke!
gonzifuentes 11 months ago
Good God, when ever will these "Think tank" clowns die? Timbro is a joke and Johan Norberg is the punchline.
hiredhelp 11 months ago
Sweden are hard core drug warriors...wouldn't call that libertarian.
hagbard72 1 year ago
Alla som är lite så där insatta i politiken här i Sverige, vet ju att Johan Nordberg är en idiot, VÄLDIGT mycket medicin här i världen kommer ju faktiskt från Sverige och uppfinns och utvecklas här. Johan är ett liberalt pucko som aldrig kommer att uppnå någon form av "kändis-"status eller överhuvudtaget uppmärksammans för sin politik.
AThingThatsWild 1 year ago
It’s sad to read the comments from the Progressive/Leftists. I use to believe their myths too, but as I started educating myself in economics and history, I realized that their belief system is the greatest threat to humanity. For any Leftists with an open mind, I’d suggest reading “The Science of Liberty” by Timothy Ferris and/or “Economics in One Lesson” by Henry Hazlitt.
xit1254 1 year ago 9
@xit1254
I was in that boat at one time too. Good suggestions.
trekkerperson 4 months ago
this interview was obviously done BEFORE the banks needed
all these billions from the taxpayer lol....ask him what he thinks of neoliberalism now.
Nothing but right-wing lies.
uwed100 1 year ago
@uwed100 YEA........ A VOICE OF REASON.
abbadabbadolittle 1 year ago
@uwed100 well if anybody did I'd say he'd say that the bail outs are the proof that libertarianism works... what you think bail outs is neoliberalism? haha... where on earth did you get that idea? is the total opposite! its called corporate WELFARE for a reason... you're redistributing the wealth... not with liberalized policies but with government intervention, yet to the wrong people... you're simply contradicting yourself by stating that you hate government intervention... nice work! ;D
Sexisttroll 9 months ago
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this interview was obviously done BEFORE the banks needed
all these billions from the taxpayer lol....ask him what he thinks of neoliberalism now.
uwed100 1 year ago
this interview was obviously done BEFORE the banks needed
all these billions lol....ask him what he thinks of neoliberalism now.
uwed100 1 year ago
He has this face I just want to punch.
panzerfavst 1 year ago
@panzerfavst ME TOO.
abbadabbadolittle 1 year ago
Bring it Johan!!! I can just hear the Leftist screaming at their screens watching this.
Mediabias4all 1 year ago
@Mediabias4all really... cause I can see them posting comments of them screaming at their screens...
funny some even want to punch him too... ohh the mind of the liberals... such an enigma...
Sexisttroll 9 months ago
@markussa89 Hell ye
InFlamesAddictive 1 year ago
Johan Norberg har uppenbarligen inte hört talas om företag som Getinge när han pratar om att _all_ läkemedelsutrustning kommer från USA.
Han har inte rätt på många punkter förövrigt...
zekatl 1 year ago
Fuck you Johan, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Don't believe this fucker, he is the equivalent of Sarah Palin in America, a government hating nutcase.
You wana know about Sweden as the people who actually live there.
Reason TV? give me a break, this is libertarian garbage.
atheistkyo 1 year ago
*Myth: US low taxes vs northern european high taxes.
*Reality: US corporate tax is the world´s highest (40%). In Sweden, Denmark and Finland it is below the EU average (25% flat)
*Myth: US racism vs northern european tolerance
* Reality: There are more illegal aliens in US than people living in Sweden and Denmark combined. The Danish immigration and asylum laws are the toughest in Europe, together with the swiss.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
@xaviqaz Funny thing...
How can you compare only corporate tax? That's like only comparing the color when deciding between two cars!
Total tax revenue divided by GDP :
SWE 49,2%
USA 28,2%
Source: Wikipedia TAX/GDP
zekatl 1 year ago
Johan Norberg is an right wing idiot that wants the same kind a capitalism that caused the current finacial crisis.
spacepilot119 1 year ago
@spacepilot119
sry nope he is liobertarian he ist not right. and second.... you dont know anything about the economic crisism, which was caused by government. YES Government because of low interest rates which blow up the money suplly + freddi and feannie, no downpayment, moral hazards and alot or fixing in the housing market
Windchilly 1 year ago
Ever heard of AstraZeneca?
sebbeks 1 year ago
I wouldnt take what this guy is saying as facts
Izoul 1 year ago
He talks like he's not being subjective, very dangerous!
Thunderfvck 1 year ago
When govt taxes rich & middleclass to give "free" services,it undercuts their savings which otherwise they'd've put into business, directly or indirectly (thru banks), which creates MORE jobs,more goods/services & hence lower prices which help poor the most; if govt taxes then NONE of the above happens & most of the money goes into pockets of politicians & bureaucrats & whatever LITTLE remains is used INEFFICIENTLY since govt is a NON-PROFIT MONOPOLY that doesn't've fear going out of business
lomocan 1 year ago
@MIXMASTAPWN Sweden is one of the world leaders in research of astma, heart problems, cancer and Parkinson. They are working together with US researchers in Parkinson. For example, the celebrity Michael J. Fox resently gave the Swedish researchers in Malmoe 500 000$ for research i Parkinson.
MrTigerhockey 1 year ago
Norberg really is frightening. Sure we need blue winds in our socialist sociaty, but Norberg is just too much. And in this video he really is disgusting :p
Maedsigil 1 year ago
Johan Norberg is either totally in lack of intellective, or he is just making him self look good for the right-wingers in the US. True that we have Waiting lines in the healthcare. But it is not true that there is in the papers every day that someone is dieing from something major, but are forced to wait in lines that will kill the person.
It´s not true that Sweden are "freeriding" on US healthcare tech and medicine. Not much actually of what he says is true.
MrTigerhockey 1 year ago
@MrTigerhockey actually most of what he said is true. sweden lacks in medical innovation because the incentive isn't there. incentive is driven by money which sweden doesn't have much of. its more affordable for the country milk off the US technology. without a capitalist market in the picture swedens health care would be much worse.
MIXMASTAPWN 1 year ago
same old right wing propaganda
Swedens economy didnt stop growing in the 1950's . And everybody is not trying to take advantage of the welfare system like this fool is saying.
noldorian86 1 year ago
Comparing the Sweedish system with the US is apples and oranges. Sweeden is NOT overpopulated with imigrants like in the US. The nasty cold climat doesn't appeal to most immigrants looking for "free" healthcare. Plus, Sweeden has stronger immigration laws.
There's no such thing as free healthcare. It's payed with high taxes (triple the amount of the US) by their citizens.
Americans want free healthcare but don't want higher taxes. It can't happen.
rivieracar1992 1 year ago 5
@rivieracar1992 Hey thanks you from Sweden?
Gades117 1 year ago
@rivieracar1992 True
galianociti1 1 year ago