Guthrie and Bonamassa have completely different backgrounds and life experiences, and are completely different players. Joe grew up around blues and 60's/early 70's rock, because of his father. Guthrie was someone who discovered the guitar and wanted to play everything that caught his ear.
So Bonamassa might have a little more authenticity when it comes to the blues, but Guthrie is a much more well-rounded guitar player. .
@Stendall Er... well the problem there is that the title says 'Guthrie playing to Albert King style track', not 'Guthrie playing exactly like Albert King'. Therefore there is no reason for him to play slowly, he has immense technical capacity so why not use it when improvising over a backing track, which is really the thing being advertised anyway? Besides speed is not intrinsically associated with a lack in 'feeling'. I'm fed up with seeing unfounded criticism of such a great musician.
@beanboxx I'm with you on this. Technical ability and soul have stood in false opposition for too long - 'as if ignorance is a more honest form of knowledge.' (Clive James said that, not me). Isn't this an exercise built upon the stylistic foundations of King's playing?
Well I think the solo sounds just like Guthrie and the backtrack reminds me of Albert King so I think the title is correct: "Guthrie Govan playing to Albert King style track
@jalek9 take Guthries dick out of your mouth first of all and clear your mind a bit before you type such nonsense. TECHNICAL TECHNICAL TECHNICAL.... Joe Bonamassa would run cicles around this bitch in blues
@AstriBlair In blues he can... Speed isn't everything although Guthrie does have the package deal. Bonamassa's songs are 100% perfect, and if anyone with a different style were to play them they just wouldn't sound as good.
ALbert King would never play lik this. Technically repeating licks that have been done before ..playing fast..blah blah.. canned...this is not what blues is about.
IF you try to break music down into genres, you will never understand Guthrie. Which is why makes Guthrie over all one of the greatest Guitarists ever to hold the instrument.
I've been a guitar player for many years and the one thing i've learned is that the "greats" are equal but different. there is no way to say one is better than another when they are all great but a lil' different. Peace
It's amazing how he can play absolutely ANYTHING he hears in his head, no matter how fast the run, how big the jumps, he can hear it absolutely cleanly in his head, and he can play ti absolutely cleanly through his instrument, his technical abilities aren't stopping him either. i NEED online lessons from this guy
Listen to all the music geeks, speaking of what is better and what is worse. Blues vs this and that. I like both genres, and i can certainly feel real emotions trough both, but in different ways, when doing the phrasing of notes. Just as well as i get a kick from listening to Metal. I just cant get, why you try to convince each other of something, that is ment to be a "no win" discussion, since its about personal taste, and certainly not a question about how you think musical theory hits skill.
@alpez En ninguna parte dice que lo imita, si sabes algo de Inglés verás que lo que es en el estilo de Albert King es la pista de acompañamiento no la forma de tocar, además, si investigas algo sobre Guthrie Govan encontrarás que tiene un dominio sorprendente de muchos estilos y géneros, imitar a Albert King le quedaría realmente fácil. Te recomiendo el albúm Erotic Cakes y el video Guthrie Govan plays: Who's Best?
How can someone hear this kind of masterful wizardry and put it down because it doesn't sound like so and so or it doesn't fit into some braindead idea of what everything should sound like?
Are they tone deaf? Musically illiterate? Dumb?
Why do some people close off immediately they hear any fast or harmonically challenging playing. Or anything that's not basic pentatonic.
My personal theory is that anything too advanced scares them.
@prez58 Of course he is a great musician , but blues has nothing to do with playing so fast , its all about the way you play the notes..... with feeling .... not just pressing the string with no soul in it.... and soul and feeling its not = technique...
Why do you think that every bluesman has the "braindead idea of ""everything sounds the same""? Maybe because the blues is about that??? that it has only 1 or 2 chord progressions so it can sound like basic blues and EVERYONE plays that way?....
@redichuwor Technical skill and feeling are not mutually exclusive.
I never said that "every bluesman has the braindead idea of everything sounds the same". I was clearly referencing people who would put down an artist of the calibre of Guthrie Govan because of a blinkered view of how everything called "blues" should sound. Your kind of view in fact.
I'm 52 BTW. Don't try to talk down to me, I've paid my dues.
@prez58 the Blues was never played by guitar geeks with superfancy guitars, always played by people who knew a little bit of the way it should be played ,and dont tell me about eric clapton or people over the 70s or 65s+ ,im talking about Howlin´ Wolf here,a real bluesman who felt it and lived it...not a hippie (nothing against hippies,they really did some great music but its not the thing here),and when the wolf recorded "The Howlin´ Wolf Album" doing some hippie bluesy stuff he hated the album
Johnny Winter, Robben Ford, Gary Moore, Alvin Lee, Eric Gales, the Vaughn Bros, Peter Green, Elvin Bishop, Joe Bonamassa, Jeff Healey, T-Bone Walker, John Mayall, Mick Taylor, Rory Gallagher, Mike Bloomfield and 100s of others, all denied membership to the Braindead Frozen Stasis Museum of Real Blues. And I bet all of them (even the dead ones) couldn't care less.
Damn..... why this people is always trying to play something that really has some soul in it?! .... stick to your 1000-notes-per-second-music , DONT FUCK WITH THE BLUES MAN!
Guthrie Govan is without a doubt my favorite guitarist. I say that in the present tense because I really dig a lot of other players, but Guthrie just has that special something. I never get tired of watching these videos, the man has truly mastered his instrument. A lot of other players - Vai, Satriani to name a couple - are great, but after awhile I get bored with their playing, not with Guthrie - he always sounds refreshing. If you don't own Erotic Cakes - BUY IT! Cheers G
What he's doing is literally second nature to him. He may be thinking as he plays but whats happening sonically is natural in his mind and therefore flows naturally from his hands. All of you players who get discouraged and put the instrument down will never reach this level because being a great guitarist requires extreme dedication and self motivation. The amount of practice this man has put in is amazing. Learn the right info the right way, and practice it the right way and do so vigorously.
The reason most of you are amazed by what Guthrie is doing here is because he's stylistically amazing. He's improvising this stuff. These runs and "scales" you're all referring to, are all within the same 12 note musical spectrum as anything else that can be considered music. Learn the fretboard! The WHOLE fretboard. Exercise your fingers, ears, and mind religiously, learn 5,6,7, and 8 tone scales stylistically, and improvising like Guthrie won't seem superhuman anymore, it will seem possible.
Not only does guthrie's conscious mind have a fully developed understanding of the fretboard, technique, phrasing, and overall musical structure, but his unconscious mind (otherwise known as the brain/hand connection) is just as sharp. You may all want to say that the guy is a generally cerebral player, but truthfully this kind of sonic knowledge, technical prowess, and accuracy comes with years and years of monotonous drilling and study. Guthrie is the perfect juxtaposition of brain and fingers
the bending from about 1:03 to 1:06 calls for real musicality: ears. he's not just a shredder. the guy's an excellent player. love his speed, but would i like to hear him slow down sometimes? sure, but only because he surprises me sometimes with his sweet melodies. great player. enjoyed it.
Listen to the timing at the ending, he hits that note perfectly timed with the end of the backing track, after using I don't know how many godmode licks. I don't really need to watch anyone else, the competition is over.
@TheSuwayyah I could reuse the expression that music isn't a competition, but I see what you mean in a sense - I can quite happily listen to just Guthrie as he encapsulates so many amazing musical ideas. I can't help but get bored with even awesome guitarists now, particularly if they are shredders.
I agree with Jerry, as far as lead guitar is concerned this guy is far above the rest, and I am usually turned off by "shredders", but Guthrie is the first one I hear, able to carry soul through it.
And to the Greek: Albert would no doubt be proud to know he opened the doors for such talent. Like it or not, blues is all over Guthrie's fingerboard.
me personally i didn't like, had some nice parts but not enough light and shade. It apeals to guitarists, i'd imagine the general public would rather listen to something like albert king who is slower or a guitarists that isn't as frantic all the time then listen to this guy. This guy apeals to guitarists where as albert king apealed to genral public and if guitarists liked it it was a bonus. *my opinion only*
@NameSupplied and the only reason the general public wouldn't like this is because most of the time the general public wouldn't recognize talent if it killed their mother.
@TheWhocares233 put it this way, take hendrix, santana, miles davis, muddy waters, otis redding, beatles, little richard, all play different styles and some play different instruments other than guitar. Most of the them would have a equal respect for each other as musicians. Ask them what they think of govan and i bet 7 of the 8, maybe even 8 would say they find it pretentious.
Govan doesn't let the music breathe between notes enough. You can still play fast though. It's like when your working out what key a song is in on your guitar, the longer you let the note ring out the more you know if it's in key or not, if it is in key, you get that sweat song, and yep you know that note's deffinetly in key. Playing fast all the time you lose your key, even if you are play all the notes in key. thats my opinion anyway
can't agree to anything you said, sorry. i don't think that any of those well-known musicians you listed would call guthrie pretentious or something. there is no rule about the speed of your playing or lets say the amount of spaces you have to leave in there. music has to be interesting and touching, so you either play slowly with a lot of spaces or you got guthrie's extreme brainpower to play 16ths through a whole track and still play intelligent melodies.
cause i think we all know that those fast runs he plays are A LOT MORE than just some scales up and down. actually he has understood this instrument like no one else through almost every style. he CAN play slowly and "with feeling" (which i think is always to be found in his fast runs too)...it's natural, that, if you phrase with such a speed, you are also able to break down your runs and select just the best notes to get a meaning in your playing.
@musicbymax hes the only person ive ever seen phrase with sweeps and fast runs, i mean he puts then in places where the fit the song as well as a bb king phrase would, its incredible
@NameSupplied Think of the way Coltrane wrote his solos. Those are almost constant notes, but it is beautiful. The man is a fantastic musician, he knows what hes playing, hes not just running through scales mindlessly, every note he plays is planned and adds something to the sound. He is trained as a jazz guitarist just watch is jam band play. Its incredible how tight they are. Not many guitarists can play with a jazz band like him.
@NameSupplied lol dude u don't need to let some note ring to be good... it just has to be good with the chord that's backing up the moment that note is played... thats the way players like guthrie phrase all the way, making an interesting melody that can suit any backing track, as long as he is playing along the chords, and that's what makes him a genius in music, cuz he can do fast runs while changing through the notes of different chord based arpeggios, keeping the crowd's interest
@XavSch offcourse, he knows the rules of music very well, playing in and out key at the right time, he obviously can think quick and nows his way around chords. And brilliant technique and ideas. bear in mind i love fast playing... But for me personally all that means nothing for me without light and shade, to be able to tell a story, build up to moments, play lyrically. I wouldn't mind him but every 30sec on his other stuff he plays frantic. he wouldn't apeal to many non musicians.
@NameSupplied " he wouldn't apeal to many non musicians." True, I've been playing for 30+ years and dig this shit, but my girl doesn't play and calls this style "masturbatory soloing" and can't deal w/ more than 30 seconds of it.
@XavSch he wouldn't apeal to many non musicians. "thats because the public are stupid" you may say. maybe so but the public know a good melody when they hear it too. Santana and hendrix and srv played fast at times. but were loved by the public and musicians...
@NameSupplied im not saying that people are stupid, but they're not used to such dramatic chord changes as guthrie does... and also... hendrix was famous cuz he innovated, doing stuff that no one had thought before, it wasn't all about his playing... it was the impact of his live shows! he would play with his teeth, burn his guitar, etc... it was all round entertaining... and for santana, only playing modal over pentatonics and some other notes that are like "easy for the ear"-read next comment-
@NameSupplied -continuation- because that notes refer always to the chords in the background, so that's not melodical, it's just fckin easy lol xD you just need the right backing track, and santana is only famous cuz he innovated in the integration of the guitar into that sort of latin style music, which wasn't done before, and had a great tone for playing, and people liked it, but that was it, they don't play rly melodical, it's just that the chords in the back are easy to follow while soloing
@NameSupplied they actually don't... they play the pentatonic over some easy backing track, and the ones who hear them think its really melodical, but that's because anyone can be melodical doing that, go try it yourself if you don't believe me.
@XavSch what you may be trying to say is that they don't pay very harmonically (santanta etc), just follow alot of the root notes of chords...compared to govan. But i don't care. so what if what they do is "easy", santana and b.b king have a a following from the public and top musicians such a govan, were as govan has 90% following from musician geeks and the other 10% are those that always wanted to play guitar.
@XavSch if it's so easy as you say to play melodically, why doesn't everyone play like albert king, b.b king, ringo starr, miles davis? because they can't. You can play there songs, but can you write one? You can play there song, but can you improvise around it first go on stage and still sound like a master piece each night? if it was that easy everyone would do it...
@NameSupplied dude, just try play over some backing track with that type of chords, i'm telling you... and don't go fighting with me, i don't want to fight... and please, PLEASE... don't say that people following govan are musician geeks just because jazz fusion or rock fusion isn't a mainstream genre in music... for instance, i play the guitar, and i'm not a geek but i do like the style of govan, it's beautiful music, so don't get yourself into stereotypes please... srry 4 my english
@NameSupplied this is old but I hope you actually listened to what XavSch was trying to explain you. Please, forgive Guthrie for having dedicated all his life to his instrument and to music. BB King, Santana, etc do you think those guys dedicated so much to their instrument? The answer is no, they didn't. They learned what notes always sound good over such and such chord and that was that for them, they never bothered to develop their playing to such heights.
My take on GG's improv is he thinks like a chess player...always thinking 5-10 moves ahead, so hes basicly on autopilot while hes thinkin ahead of whats gona sound good and right. he has the technique and skill todo that, which most dont have
SCREW YOU!!! You can't talk to Mark Walsh like that, he's only the coolest guitar teacher on the East Coast. He's play with Gerald Veasley and is the guitarist for Sister Sledge. So I hope rabid goats rape you in the middle of the night!!!!!!
You like beautiful music. I like beautiful and agressive and heavy and at times, kind of 'in your face' musical statements.
and I agree completely with explosive184 there are many songs I love which I didn't like at first, and mostly progressive songs. I'm a progressive guy too, what can I say XD
I'm not criticising your taste. So let's respect each other's opinions and refrain from offending people of their taste.
and btw what I mean by beautiful, aggressive and heavy and in your face. I mean all those combined together into one. not separate styles say yay for rock fusion! lol
What is ridiculous? If being a troll is about saying my opinion, then I am a troll, yes! Can't you people accept that I have a different opinion? (everything is ok since we agree each other?...)
That's sad, nowadays, you can't even say what you think.
Liberty of expression? Acceptance? Huh...Throw it away in your toilet bowl, then forget about that thing.
Ok, I could agree on what you're saying gori1503. But don't say that I'm a troll. (we know that, for that, you deserve your Godwin point)
Not entirely (3 or 4), but you know what? I know at the first listen whaether I like or dislike. It's about the style, as it is for literature.
I don't like his style, and that's the point. You may like Guthrie, and all people who criticized may too. I have another conception of beatiful music (and beautiful guitar style). Then there is no reason for people to criticise a taste (i'm not talking of you, off course).
I agree, there's nothing wrong with a different conception I just wanted to check because I saw some people criticising him as a guitarist in general before even listening to his album.
By the way I cant say I know that from the first time I listen to something :P
There are many songs that I love which I didn't like at first(usually progressive songs).
I think progressive and complex music is somewhat of an acquired taste(ofcourse that it does not apply to everyone).
Yeah, but to go to one of these videos and say 'his playing is boring' IS offensive - for lack of better word, and you can expect people talking back to you. To have an opinion or preference is perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean to go around and tell people what they like is boring, that's uncalled for.
You see, I listen to coltrane, joe pass, benson, metheny, django etc too. but I am a rock guy at heart, I crave the emotions vibrating from distorted guitar. To me guthrie is a perfect combination of these elements, aggresive but edgy, tasteful and contemporary. I listen to his cd over and over again not because his licks are fast, but because he able to convey such emotion.
Otherwise , if you want to play wth me, I would be glad to welcome you in Paris. If you plan to go to Paris Someday contact me.
That's all I have to say; I don't like Guthrie's style. I prefer Wes Montgomery, Charlie Christian, Django, or in blues BB, Albert King, Collins
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It's a shame that I have to justify myself. I love Coltrane and other jazz players. And for Dmnx I was saying that the result (a good album as for exemple a love supreme) is most important thant the fact that he plays fast!
Those players you mentioned are great players, but they belong in another genre. of course you prefer their playing, you like that genre, and you don't like this genre. why pick guthrie then? why not you go to some death metal, progressive rock, progressive fusion, punk jazz etc videos and diss their guitarists and compare them to 'classic' jazz players. totally ridiculous man, you're a troll.
Logic is not always the true and magic answer. The fact is that he always plays like that: in his albums (the last), in jams and in demonstration.
I play guitar and I know that there would no reason I would play fast exept to serve my impro. You're wrong, people who play fast in demonstrations are almost always doing the same in there albums.
You talk logic, I talk real (of what really happens in reality).
Hey Zepequino, post a video of your improv and lets see how many stars & views it gets. Some people on here are so ignorant...It never ceases to amaze me.
My Fav Player....
TheBlueFuzz 3 hours ago
May Fav... Player.....
TheBlueFuzz 3 hours ago
awesome playing....really......not redundant......but can you play it with love?
then ill believe you. yours truly ; dithers.
noodlesmealey 2 months ago
I don't care Who's Style,or If it's to fast,or slow, That Man can Rock the Shit out of that Guitar!
Tycrew176e 2 months ago
Guthrie and Bonamassa have completely different backgrounds and life experiences, and are completely different players. Joe grew up around blues and 60's/early 70's rock, because of his father. Guthrie was someone who discovered the guitar and wanted to play everything that caught his ear.
So Bonamassa might have a little more authenticity when it comes to the blues, but Guthrie is a much more well-rounded guitar player. .
GuardianOfFate12 2 months ago
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Dazzerx 4 months ago
@OxenOrb Exactly. They are both awesome players, no doubt. But I personally, just love Guthrie's phrasing.
Yes, we all know. it's sometimes maybe a bit too much of shredding, but he is soo damn versatile.
I can't imagine any genre where Guthrie doesn't come up with something amazing.
And of course. Guthrie can surely play slow, but maybe he doesn't want to.
But never say he's got no feeling in his playing.
Look at his face, when he plays.
I think that just says everything.
TG9900 4 months ago
Now this is just ridiculous.
jwandhistools 4 months ago
This guy built my house: awesome carpenter.
smfo00 5 months ago 2
Very fast fingers, but the sound it's not by far the Albert King style.
Less speed and more feeling...
Stendall 5 months ago
@Stendall Er... well the problem there is that the title says 'Guthrie playing to Albert King style track', not 'Guthrie playing exactly like Albert King'. Therefore there is no reason for him to play slowly, he has immense technical capacity so why not use it when improvising over a backing track, which is really the thing being advertised anyway? Besides speed is not intrinsically associated with a lack in 'feeling'. I'm fed up with seeing unfounded criticism of such a great musician.
beanboxx 5 months ago 20
@beanboxx I'm with you on this. Technical ability and soul have stood in false opposition for too long - 'as if ignorance is a more honest form of knowledge.' (Clive James said that, not me). Isn't this an exercise built upon the stylistic foundations of King's playing?
portwilliam 3 weeks ago
@beanboxx Indeed, it's fucking ignorant, oh well.. There will always be comments like that mate :-) Maybe it's just better to let it be lol
Oblivion104 2 weeks ago in playlist Guthrie Govan
1:46 God bless that chromatism between the 6th and the 7th.
RickInRock84 5 months ago
He looks like Jesus...maybe he is Jesus!
guitar5289 6 months ago
Guthrie from Nazareth ?? hmmm
gotcalves 6 months ago
Well I think the solo sounds just like Guthrie and the backtrack reminds me of Albert King so I think the title is correct: "Guthrie Govan playing to Albert King style track
1clintan 6 months ago 8
Thank you :)
theclavious 6 months ago
will you please shut the fuck up???
some people are trying to enjoy the music here!!
every fuckup with a keyboard is an expert nowdays!
jesus!!
jalek9 6 months ago
@jalek9 take Guthries dick out of your mouth first of all and clear your mind a bit before you type such nonsense. TECHNICAL TECHNICAL TECHNICAL.... Joe Bonamassa would run cicles around this bitch in blues
theclavious 6 months ago
@theclavious you are a genious , aren't you?
i dont give a flying fuck about Govan or King, all i care about is some good music...
and expert assholes like you, ruin the whole thing.
jalek9 6 months ago 3
@theclavious If Guthrie was a blues player that statement might make a little bit of sense.
Hardysamnin 6 months ago
@theclavious
Hahahahhahahaha ahhahahaha hahahahah ahahahahahah ahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA (chokes of histerical laugh and dies)
MrNebelful 5 months ago
@theclavious Bonamassa can't outplay him in any genre.
AstriBlair 5 months ago
@AstriBlair In blues he can... Speed isn't everything although Guthrie does have the package deal. Bonamassa's songs are 100% perfect, and if anyone with a different style were to play them they just wouldn't sound as good.
AndreasSku93 4 months ago
@AstriBlair Only Ted Nugent can outplay Govan.
AlwaysLove2Travel 3 months ago 3
@AlwaysLove2Travel how funny
slashy04 3 months ago
for all the retardeds who think he plays like albert king they're wrong.. the TRACK is albert king style... he's just being guthrie
svelard7 6 months ago
@svelard7 That doesnt even sound like an albert king track..go listen to albert king..this sounds like cheese
theclavious 6 months ago
ALbert King would never play lik this. Technically repeating licks that have been done before ..playing fast..blah blah.. canned...this is not what blues is about.
theclavious 6 months ago
MERLIN playing guitar with a blues gnome in his poket!!!!!
matalmike 6 months ago
amazing. Guthries best solo :)
metalable47 7 months ago
Nice bend at 1:04
abeltyrrell 7 months ago
The king is dead. Long live the king!!!!! Guthrie is the Hendrix of this era...
karmabites1 7 months ago
As they say,Old is Gold!\m/
theking4everr 7 months ago
IF you try to break music down into genres, you will never understand Guthrie. Which is why makes Guthrie over all one of the greatest Guitarists ever to hold the instrument.
tastefulphrasing 7 months ago
I've been a guitar player for many years and the one thing i've learned is that the "greats" are equal but different. there is no way to say one is better than another when they are all great but a lil' different. Peace
Madaxxeman 7 months ago
gotta love the facial expressions at 0:58
dastewart93 8 months ago
Jesus......^^
BJrok 8 months ago
It's amazing how he can play absolutely ANYTHING he hears in his head, no matter how fast the run, how big the jumps, he can hear it absolutely cleanly in his head, and he can play ti absolutely cleanly through his instrument, his technical abilities aren't stopping him either. i NEED online lessons from this guy
OliverMazur 8 months ago
the bend at 1:05... dear god..
kakashigaiden3 8 months ago
Listen to all the music geeks, speaking of what is better and what is worse. Blues vs this and that. I like both genres, and i can certainly feel real emotions trough both, but in different ways, when doing the phrasing of notes. Just as well as i get a kick from listening to Metal. I just cant get, why you try to convince each other of something, that is ment to be a "no win" discussion, since its about personal taste, and certainly not a question about how you think musical theory hits skill.
zajac1661 8 months ago
@zajac1661 Here Here.There are many Beautiful flowers is the jungle.Most comments can be discerned by the age of the recipients.
Rogokofats 7 months ago
He has such a wide musical vocabulary. I could listen to him all day and I don't think I'd get bored or hear him repeat himself once.
TUUK2006 9 months ago
too much sadness in the playing!!!!! NOT
funkeemon 9 months ago
1:46 god damn that was epic!!
oscarsstuff 9 months ago
guthrie said that he is a blues guitarist in heart
algrand90 10 months ago
pero este hombre sabe quien es Albert King o solo lo ha visto escrito en algun sitio y ha pensado que quedaba bien decir que lo imitaba
alpez 10 months ago
@alpez En ninguna parte dice que lo imita, si sabes algo de Inglés verás que lo que es en el estilo de Albert King es la pista de acompañamiento no la forma de tocar, además, si investigas algo sobre Guthrie Govan encontrarás que tiene un dominio sorprendente de muchos estilos y géneros, imitar a Albert King le quedaría realmente fácil. Te recomiendo el albúm Erotic Cakes y el video Guthrie Govan plays: Who's Best?
LucasGonzalezTube 9 months ago 2
@LucasGonzalezTube no yo le podia haber respondido mejor :D
666crazymotherfucker 8 months ago
For he is the Man.
TheSheikoil 10 months ago
How can someone hear this kind of masterful wizardry and put it down because it doesn't sound like so and so or it doesn't fit into some braindead idea of what everything should sound like?
Are they tone deaf? Musically illiterate? Dumb?
Why do some people close off immediately they hear any fast or harmonically challenging playing. Or anything that's not basic pentatonic.
My personal theory is that anything too advanced scares them.
prez58 11 months ago
@prez58 Of course he is a great musician , but blues has nothing to do with playing so fast , its all about the way you play the notes..... with feeling .... not just pressing the string with no soul in it.... and soul and feeling its not = technique...
Why do you think that every bluesman has the "braindead idea of ""everything sounds the same""? Maybe because the blues is about that??? that it has only 1 or 2 chord progressions so it can sound like basic blues and EVERYONE plays that way?....
redichuwor 11 months ago
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prez58 11 months ago
@redichuwor Technical skill and feeling are not mutually exclusive.
I never said that "every bluesman has the braindead idea of everything sounds the same". I was clearly referencing people who would put down an artist of the calibre of Guthrie Govan because of a blinkered view of how everything called "blues" should sound. Your kind of view in fact.
I'm 52 BTW. Don't try to talk down to me, I've paid my dues.
prez58 11 months ago
@redichuwor Because blues HAS to be played a certain way. Dude, this is music. there aren't any rules :)
Guitareben 11 months ago
@prez58 the Blues was never played by guitar geeks with superfancy guitars, always played by people who knew a little bit of the way it should be played ,and dont tell me about eric clapton or people over the 70s or 65s+ ,im talking about Howlin´ Wolf here,a real bluesman who felt it and lived it...not a hippie (nothing against hippies,they really did some great music but its not the thing here),and when the wolf recorded "The Howlin´ Wolf Album" doing some hippie bluesy stuff he hated the album
redichuwor 11 months ago
@redichuwor
Johnny Winter, Robben Ford, Gary Moore, Alvin Lee, Eric Gales, the Vaughn Bros, Peter Green, Elvin Bishop, Joe Bonamassa, Jeff Healey, T-Bone Walker, John Mayall, Mick Taylor, Rory Gallagher, Mike Bloomfield and 100s of others, all denied membership to the Braindead Frozen Stasis Museum of Real Blues. And I bet all of them (even the dead ones) couldn't care less.
prez58 11 months ago
@prez58 now about your "kind of masterful wizardry"...just go back to your world of warcraft kiddo...i´m out of here...
redichuwor 11 months ago
F ing greatness
ToniMattTony 11 months ago
The lick at 1:35 is cool...
Cashcow42 11 months ago
Damn..... why this people is always trying to play something that really has some soul in it?! .... stick to your 1000-notes-per-second-music , DONT FUCK WITH THE BLUES MAN!
redichuwork 1 year ago 2
Absolutely amazing, playing with such effortless fluidity.
I see many,many hours tearing that guitar apart to acheive that level of comfort and confidence. Very surprised I haven't heard of Gutherie before.
shynemydog 1 year ago
Albert King could say more with a few notes.
TTmaniax 1 year ago 4
this guy just fucking rules plain and simple, he is a phenom
vaiboy55 1 year ago
Guthrie Govan is without a doubt my favorite guitarist. I say that in the present tense because I really dig a lot of other players, but Guthrie just has that special something. I never get tired of watching these videos, the man has truly mastered his instrument. A lot of other players - Vai, Satriani to name a couple - are great, but after awhile I get bored with their playing, not with Guthrie - he always sounds refreshing. If you don't own Erotic Cakes - BUY IT! Cheers G
InsaneGuitarGenius 1 year ago
you say albert king style track ???? bullshit there is nothing of albert king in this fucking solo .....
you have nothing of a bluesman ..... go to hell mother fucker !
budfidub92 1 year ago
@budfidub92 lol
Kingding6 1 year ago
@budfidub92 Albert King? He is Sir Govan, he knows how to make a guitar cry, he is amazing, just listen him !
raxxalexx 1 year ago
o.o
abcDiogo123 1 year ago
I've just recently discovered Govan, and I gotta tell you my jaw just dropped watching these tracks on youtube. This guy has some serious skills.
jlira01 1 year ago
holy jammin...dude fuckin RAWKS it
synesthesia67 1 year ago
What he's doing is literally second nature to him. He may be thinking as he plays but whats happening sonically is natural in his mind and therefore flows naturally from his hands. All of you players who get discouraged and put the instrument down will never reach this level because being a great guitarist requires extreme dedication and self motivation. The amount of practice this man has put in is amazing. Learn the right info the right way, and practice it the right way and do so vigorously.
Stonemebaby77 1 year ago 3
The reason most of you are amazed by what Guthrie is doing here is because he's stylistically amazing. He's improvising this stuff. These runs and "scales" you're all referring to, are all within the same 12 note musical spectrum as anything else that can be considered music. Learn the fretboard! The WHOLE fretboard. Exercise your fingers, ears, and mind religiously, learn 5,6,7, and 8 tone scales stylistically, and improvising like Guthrie won't seem superhuman anymore, it will seem possible.
Stonemebaby77 1 year ago 3
Not only does guthrie's conscious mind have a fully developed understanding of the fretboard, technique, phrasing, and overall musical structure, but his unconscious mind (otherwise known as the brain/hand connection) is just as sharp. You may all want to say that the guy is a generally cerebral player, but truthfully this kind of sonic knowledge, technical prowess, and accuracy comes with years and years of monotonous drilling and study. Guthrie is the perfect juxtaposition of brain and fingers
Stonemebaby77 1 year ago
the bending from about 1:03 to 1:06 calls for real musicality: ears. he's not just a shredder. the guy's an excellent player. love his speed, but would i like to hear him slow down sometimes? sure, but only because he surprises me sometimes with his sweet melodies. great player. enjoyed it.
zurckoni 1 year ago
that scale at 1:58 is lightning fast and bad ass!!
feverlead 1 year ago
best playing
camartinez6 1 year ago
I feel retarded.
RONDOC68 1 year ago 24
good lord.
green66vw 1 year ago
it's Guthrie from Nazareth
Samijn 1 year ago 54
Listen to the timing at the ending, he hits that note perfectly timed with the end of the backing track, after using I don't know how many godmode licks. I don't really need to watch anyone else, the competition is over.
TheSuwayyah 1 year ago 5
@TheSuwayyah I could reuse the expression that music isn't a competition, but I see what you mean in a sense - I can quite happily listen to just Guthrie as he encapsulates so many amazing musical ideas. I can't help but get bored with even awesome guitarists now, particularly if they are shredders.
TearTheRoofOff 1 year ago
@TheSuwayyah And guess what about his timing...he said in an interview he never used a metronome to practice guitar. :) Pretty crazy, huh?
DylanGuitar148 1 year ago
he sounds like a women who doesn't shut up! me personally i would like him to build up to his climax.
NameSupplied 1 year ago
OH MY GODDDD nobody melts my face like him. He's just so fucking good I can't stand it
blahkaw98 1 year ago 3
How can you not laugh at 2:13, that is so fun!
minorblues1 1 year ago
@minorblues1 same goes for 1:40!
daniel00manning 1 year ago
Is that the Suhr Standard Carved Top or regular? And what finish is that. I LOVE THAT FINISH!
Junnage 1 year ago
@Junnage
That's a normal flat-top Standard and the finish is Root Beer Stain.
alexkhan2000 1 year ago
Albert King would roll over in his grave - WITH LAUGHTER :-)
SlimbagHarold 1 year ago 2
I really liked the licks between 0:00 - 2:34
ilovebluessolos 1 year ago
God + The Devil = Guthrie Govan
spanked316 1 year ago
@spanked316
so in other words yin and yang?
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
INCREIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOVAN!!
molina21000 1 year ago
Sports Guitar unlimited!
TheManFender 1 year ago
I agree with Jerry, as far as lead guitar is concerned this guy is far above the rest, and I am usually turned off by "shredders", but Guthrie is the first one I hear, able to carry soul through it.
And to the Greek: Albert would no doubt be proud to know he opened the doors for such talent. Like it or not, blues is all over Guthrie's fingerboard.
Pancho7172 1 year ago
from 01:40 - great!
parrymason 1 year ago
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This guy is the KING at this present moment in time. Only a jealous chump would say otherwise.
JerryOutlaw 1 year ago
This guy is the KING at this present moment in time. Only a jealous chump would disagree.
JerryOutlaw 1 year ago
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eliasthegreek 1 year ago
@eliasthegreek he wasnt playing the blues.....
Kingding6 1 year ago
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eliasthegreek 1 year ago
@eliasthegreek All you have is agenda, not rationality.
RDBeast 1 year ago
@eliasthegreek You are insulting the memory of Albert King with your comment.
Catsincages 1 year ago
World-class playing, jack.
AnnihilatingAngel 1 year ago
me personally i didn't like, had some nice parts but not enough light and shade. It apeals to guitarists, i'd imagine the general public would rather listen to something like albert king who is slower or a guitarists that isn't as frantic all the time then listen to this guy. This guy apeals to guitarists where as albert king apealed to genral public and if guitarists liked it it was a bonus. *my opinion only*
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied and the only reason the general public wouldn't like this is because most of the time the general public wouldn't recognize talent if it killed their mother.
TheWhocares233 1 year ago 3
@TheWhocares233 put it this way, take hendrix, santana, miles davis, muddy waters, otis redding, beatles, little richard, all play different styles and some play different instruments other than guitar. Most of the them would have a equal respect for each other as musicians. Ask them what they think of govan and i bet 7 of the 8, maybe even 8 would say they find it pretentious.
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied Because there jealous of of Govan. The man is the best guitarist on the planet at the moment
Kingding6 1 year ago
Govan doesn't let the music breathe between notes enough. You can still play fast though. It's like when your working out what key a song is in on your guitar, the longer you let the note ring out the more you know if it's in key or not, if it is in key, you get that sweat song, and yep you know that note's deffinetly in key. Playing fast all the time you lose your key, even if you are play all the notes in key. thats my opinion anyway
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied
can't agree to anything you said, sorry. i don't think that any of those well-known musicians you listed would call guthrie pretentious or something. there is no rule about the speed of your playing or lets say the amount of spaces you have to leave in there. music has to be interesting and touching, so you either play slowly with a lot of spaces or you got guthrie's extreme brainpower to play 16ths through a whole track and still play intelligent melodies.
musicbymax 1 year ago 5
@NameSupplied
cause i think we all know that those fast runs he plays are A LOT MORE than just some scales up and down. actually he has understood this instrument like no one else through almost every style. he CAN play slowly and "with feeling" (which i think is always to be found in his fast runs too)...it's natural, that, if you phrase with such a speed, you are also able to break down your runs and select just the best notes to get a meaning in your playing.
i like both!
regards,
max
musicbymax 1 year ago 51
@musicbymax well put max
chuckie54able 1 year ago
@chuckie54able
thanks mate :)
musicbymax 1 year ago
@musicbymax hes the only person ive ever seen phrase with sweeps and fast runs, i mean he puts then in places where the fit the song as well as a bb king phrase would, its incredible
NintendoSinceBirth1 7 months ago
@NameSupplied Think of the way Coltrane wrote his solos. Those are almost constant notes, but it is beautiful. The man is a fantastic musician, he knows what hes playing, hes not just running through scales mindlessly, every note he plays is planned and adds something to the sound. He is trained as a jazz guitarist just watch is jam band play. Its incredible how tight they are. Not many guitarists can play with a jazz band like him.
IronMan360 1 year ago
@NameSupplied lol dude u don't need to let some note ring to be good... it just has to be good with the chord that's backing up the moment that note is played... thats the way players like guthrie phrase all the way, making an interesting melody that can suit any backing track, as long as he is playing along the chords, and that's what makes him a genius in music, cuz he can do fast runs while changing through the notes of different chord based arpeggios, keeping the crowd's interest
XavSch 1 year ago
@XavSch offcourse, he knows the rules of music very well, playing in and out key at the right time, he obviously can think quick and nows his way around chords. And brilliant technique and ideas. bear in mind i love fast playing... But for me personally all that means nothing for me without light and shade, to be able to tell a story, build up to moments, play lyrically. I wouldn't mind him but every 30sec on his other stuff he plays frantic. he wouldn't apeal to many non musicians.
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied " he wouldn't apeal to many non musicians." True, I've been playing for 30+ years and dig this shit, but my girl doesn't play and calls this style "masturbatory soloing" and can't deal w/ more than 30 seconds of it.
generuffalo 1 year ago
@XavSch he wouldn't apeal to many non musicians. "thats because the public are stupid" you may say. maybe so but the public know a good melody when they hear it too. Santana and hendrix and srv played fast at times. but were loved by the public and musicians...
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied im not saying that people are stupid, but they're not used to such dramatic chord changes as guthrie does... and also... hendrix was famous cuz he innovated, doing stuff that no one had thought before, it wasn't all about his playing... it was the impact of his live shows! he would play with his teeth, burn his guitar, etc... it was all round entertaining... and for santana, only playing modal over pentatonics and some other notes that are like "easy for the ear"-read next comment-
XavSch 1 year ago
@NameSupplied -continuation- because that notes refer always to the chords in the background, so that's not melodical, it's just fckin easy lol xD you just need the right backing track, and santana is only famous cuz he innovated in the integration of the guitar into that sort of latin style music, which wasn't done before, and had a great tone for playing, and people liked it, but that was it, they don't play rly melodical, it's just that the chords in the back are easy to follow while soloing
XavSch 1 year ago
@XavSch "melodical" isn't even a word. Man it pisses me off bad when people can't use proper grammar.
darthfocus 1 year ago
@darthfocus wow great response... btw FUCK GRAMMAR... my native language is spanish ¬¬
XavSch 1 year ago
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XavSch 1 year ago
@darthfocus another thing... melodical is actually a word... look it up in the dictionary -_-'
XavSch 1 year ago
@XavSch No, the word you are looking for is melodic. It embodies everything you think melodical means only in a known language.
darthfocus 1 year ago
@darthfocus i was actually serious, look it up... i found it xD
XavSch 1 year ago
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@XavSch Now you are just lying.
darthfocus 1 year ago
@XavSch "they (santana etc) don't really play melodical'. i'm just wasting my time if i continue this...
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied they actually don't... they play the pentatonic over some easy backing track, and the ones who hear them think its really melodical, but that's because anyone can be melodical doing that, go try it yourself if you don't believe me.
P.D.: inb4 srry for my english but i'm chilean
XavSch 1 year ago
@XavSch what you may be trying to say is that they don't pay very harmonically (santanta etc), just follow alot of the root notes of chords...compared to govan. But i don't care. so what if what they do is "easy", santana and b.b king have a a following from the public and top musicians such a govan, were as govan has 90% following from musician geeks and the other 10% are those that always wanted to play guitar.
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@XavSch if it's so easy as you say to play melodically, why doesn't everyone play like albert king, b.b king, ringo starr, miles davis? because they can't. You can play there songs, but can you write one? You can play there song, but can you improvise around it first go on stage and still sound like a master piece each night? if it was that easy everyone would do it...
NameSupplied 1 year ago
@NameSupplied dude, just try play over some backing track with that type of chords, i'm telling you... and don't go fighting with me, i don't want to fight... and please, PLEASE... don't say that people following govan are musician geeks just because jazz fusion or rock fusion isn't a mainstream genre in music... for instance, i play the guitar, and i'm not a geek but i do like the style of govan, it's beautiful music, so don't get yourself into stereotypes please... srry 4 my english
XavSch 1 year ago
@NameSupplied this is old but I hope you actually listened to what XavSch was trying to explain you. Please, forgive Guthrie for having dedicated all his life to his instrument and to music. BB King, Santana, etc do you think those guys dedicated so much to their instrument? The answer is no, they didn't. They learned what notes always sound good over such and such chord and that was that for them, they never bothered to develop their playing to such heights.
rulo0801 3 weeks ago
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frannyp46 1 year ago
word. i saw this dood like 3 years ago and was on his dick ever since. like playing the stock market on him hehe. i wanna see him on the g3 tour
BlooBeluga 1 year ago
My take on GG's improv is he thinks like a chess player...always thinking 5-10 moves ahead, so hes basicly on autopilot while hes thinkin ahead of whats gona sound good and right. he has the technique and skill todo that, which most dont have
Kingding6 1 year ago 2
I have to disagree,respectfully of course.Improv like this is not thought about it's just done,lol...
petiethepitt 1 year ago
This is insane! One of the best guitar players today.
nultatolerancija 1 year ago 2
I love his expression at 01:58, like a dog that you scratch on the back just before the base of the tail....
This guy simply shares the best guitarist in the world status with Tommy Emmanuel in my book.
Musicplayful 1 year ago
agree , only one more guitarist to mentions and that is Scott henderson
Samijn 1 year ago
I was just thinking what a sick puppy he was, it all makes sense now .
Soma874 1 year ago
at 24 he shakes his head because it wasnt absolutly perfect.
Kingding6 1 year ago 2
We are not worthy! *kneels*
RDBeast 1 year ago
SCREW YOU!!! You can't talk to Mark Walsh like that, he's only the coolest guitar teacher on the East Coast. He's play with Gerald Veasley and is the guitarist for Sister Sledge. So I hope rabid goats rape you in the middle of the night!!!!!!
TheBimp92 1 year ago
0:18 love the way he vibratos that note! Perfect!
TearTheRoofOff 1 year ago
Disgustingly sick and amazing...
Fretfreak83 1 year ago
everytime i see/hear guthrie, there is something new.
guthrie rocks!!
Pollero20 1 year ago
Bad to the friggin' bone - Jesus!!
wrf1973 2 years ago
crazy
ize1277 2 years ago
best part at 2:08
RottenPotatoes 2 years ago
Good choice. Or how about that sweet little double stop section at 1:46?
neilscriv 1 year ago
he is the jesus of guitar ( looks like him )
dr4ncer 2 years ago 3
Before GG and After GG
manumanu10 2 years ago
oh what the crap, this rocks!!
hendroin1 2 years ago
this is so awesome.
iFabidotTV 2 years ago 5
He looks human but only an alien can play like that...
stratboyray 2 years ago 5
he is so amazing that even aliens are no saying " he looks like an alien, but only a human could play like that". ha ha.
tastefulphrasing 2 years ago 4
You like beautiful music. I like beautiful and agressive and heavy and at times, kind of 'in your face' musical statements.
and I agree completely with explosive184 there are many songs I love which I didn't like at first, and mostly progressive songs. I'm a progressive guy too, what can I say XD
I'm not criticising your taste. So let's respect each other's opinions and refrain from offending people of their taste.
Cheers
dmnxCGi 2 years ago
and btw what I mean by beautiful, aggressive and heavy and in your face. I mean all those combined together into one. not separate styles say yay for rock fusion! lol
dmnxCGi 2 years ago
What is ridiculous? If being a troll is about saying my opinion, then I am a troll, yes! Can't you people accept that I have a different opinion? (everything is ok since we agree each other?...)
That's sad, nowadays, you can't even say what you think.
Liberty of expression? Acceptance? Huh...Throw it away in your toilet bowl, then forget about that thing.
Ok, I could agree on what you're saying gori1503. But don't say that I'm a troll. (we know that, for that, you deserve your Godwin point)
Zepequino 2 years ago 2
Did you try to listen to Guthrie's CD?
If you haven't I recommend you do before juding him, it has some fantastic tracks.
Explosive184 2 years ago
Not entirely (3 or 4), but you know what? I know at the first listen whaether I like or dislike. It's about the style, as it is for literature.
I don't like his style, and that's the point. You may like Guthrie, and all people who criticized may too. I have another conception of beatiful music (and beautiful guitar style). Then there is no reason for people to criticise a taste (i'm not talking of you, off course).
Zepequino 2 years ago
I agree, there's nothing wrong with a different conception I just wanted to check because I saw some people criticising him as a guitarist in general before even listening to his album.
By the way I cant say I know that from the first time I listen to something :P
There are many songs that I love which I didn't like at first(usually progressive songs).
I think progressive and complex music is somewhat of an acquired taste(ofcourse that it does not apply to everyone).
Explosive184 2 years ago
You're right (about acquired tastes), but in general when I hear a guitar (or any instrument that I know well) player I often know if I will like it.
Greetings from France!
Zepequino 2 years ago
Yeah, but to go to one of these videos and say 'his playing is boring' IS offensive - for lack of better word, and you can expect people talking back to you. To have an opinion or preference is perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean to go around and tell people what they like is boring, that's uncalled for.
dmnxCGi 2 years ago
You see, I listen to coltrane, joe pass, benson, metheny, django etc too. but I am a rock guy at heart, I crave the emotions vibrating from distorted guitar. To me guthrie is a perfect combination of these elements, aggresive but edgy, tasteful and contemporary. I listen to his cd over and over again not because his licks are fast, but because he able to convey such emotion.
dmnxCGi 2 years ago 4
Well put, Dmnxcgi.
mnkcastle 2 years ago
He is BLUES :)
bostao15 2 years ago
Otherwise , if you want to play wth me, I would be glad to welcome you in Paris. If you plan to go to Paris Someday contact me.
That's all I have to say; I don't like Guthrie's style. I prefer Wes Montgomery, Charlie Christian, Django, or in blues BB, Albert King, Collins
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It's a shame that I have to justify myself. I love Coltrane and other jazz players. And for Dmnx I was saying that the result (a good album as for exemple a love supreme) is most important thant the fact that he plays fast!
Zepequino 2 years ago
Those players you mentioned are great players, but they belong in another genre. of course you prefer their playing, you like that genre, and you don't like this genre. why pick guthrie then? why not you go to some death metal, progressive rock, progressive fusion, punk jazz etc videos and diss their guitarists and compare them to 'classic' jazz players. totally ridiculous man, you're a troll.
gori1503 2 years ago
Mr. logic,
Logic is not always the true and magic answer. The fact is that he always plays like that: in his albums (the last), in jams and in demonstration.
I play guitar and I know that there would no reason I would play fast exept to serve my impro. You're wrong, people who play fast in demonstrations are almost always doing the same in there albums.
You talk logic, I talk real (of what really happens in reality).
Zepequino 2 years ago
Hey Zepequino, post a video of your improv and lets see how many stars & views it gets. Some people on here are so ignorant...It never ceases to amaze me.
davewcollins 2 years ago