During my school days in country which was on the EAST side of the iron curtain wnd was heavy influenced by Moscow POV i NEVER EVER heard during history lessons about Nanking massacre so please explain me what interest Soviets would have in hiding such enormus Japan atrocity (let's not forget that Soviets signeg ONLY an armistance with Japan) from public knowledge in east block in apex of COLD WAR?
I think this whole Nanking story was recently rised to counter growing up displeasure of the world
I suggest fro some Chinese posters to google how many RTS games covered WW II in pacyfic area was banned from China (with Hearts of Iron series at front) ONLY because they showed up Tibet as INDEPENDENT nation (i read on Paradox forum that Chinese government demanded removal any traces of independent Tibet from game from Paradox under ban threat but Paradox said NO so game as banned from china market) and that's rises many questions...
@Qusza2007 ok,please tell me what did chinese do in tibet? have u been there?have u read any history books of tibet?discuss with me after finish ur homework!
@undertakerRach: are you going to tell us that your Germans killing more then a million jews is a false story too. Also your right China's problems is not your problems, you just keep yourself busy worrying about how many Jews your Germans can kill in a gas chamber.
@undertakerRach the evidence?haha! so many old japanese soldiers have admitted their behaviors during the war!their dairies their pictures~ so many evidences! u ask me 4 proofs?why mao didn't announce? omg!such idiot as u!who was the president of china during the WW2?read the books pls! face ur own history,ur bloody cruel ancestor who has no humanity!ecoute-moi! u r the motherfucker!
@bombtomas (Part1)According to the ejcjs articles, the majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident has been opened, some the Japanese, the Chinese and people who are speaking English have been attended the conference. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind.
@bombtomas (Part2) The Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel.
@bombtomas (Part3)However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
@undertakerRach the truth is u r lack of the base of the knowledge of history~ i don't want to argue with the person as u~it's waste of my time~nanjing massacre is a truth that is well admitted by the world!Iwane Matsuiwas convicted of war crimes and sentenced to death by hanging by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East for responsibility over the Nanking Massacre.even though,Prince Yasuhiko Asaka is the real murder,but he has escaped from the judgement!voila! u motherfucker!
@bombtomas ■(Part1)Here is a data of The Rape of Berlin, which was happened in the summer of 1945, Soviet soldiers caught many German women for raping, and massacred so many German civilians. The pregnancy rate of The Rape of Berlin was 23%. And then Chinese government has been accusing 20,000 to 80,000 of Chinese women were raped by Japanese soldiers.
@undertakerRach r u the human being?u r really lack of human nature just as ur ancestor! i tell u the reason~ because the japs raped the women and then killed them!do u know a german businessman whose name is john rabe! his diary has well recorded the japs behaviors during the nanjing massacre!if u don't trust me ! there r so many documentaries and books made by the westerns may answer ur stupid questions!u motherfucker!
@bombtomas ■(Part1)John Rabe was a member of international Safety Zone Committee in Nanking. Many Chinese people said he was a witness of the Nanking Massacre with confidence. However, he had never witnessed even one case of murder. In spite of that, he sent many reports to Hitler and wrote the stories to his diary. In fact, his diary and reports to Germany were written different number of victims. Why?
@bombtomas (Part2)For Fear of counter objections, he reported to the Japanese authorities in Nanking city the number of casualties to be 49 based on some extent of reliable information. But on the other hand, to journalists, German diplomats and A. Hitler who were all absent in Nanking, he reported figures with an enormous difference, as if no less than tens of thousands civilians had been killed by Japanese troops. Why did Rabe make a false report of the massacre to Hitler?
@ (Part3)According to German historian Gerhard Krebs, the reason was based on power politics in his German homeland. “Defeated and depressed in World War I, Germany knew that china was a significant trade partner. Particularly Chiang Kai-shek, who was fighting against the CCP, needed a large number of weapons, while Germany was able to import raw materials that were indispensable for the postwar reconstruction.” The Sino-Japanese War forced Germany to reconsider its foreign policy toward China.
@ (Part4)The Japanese government repeatedly demanded that Germany stop the export of weapons to Japan's enemy Chiang Kai-shek. As the result, Hitler decided to take advantage of containment against the Soviet Union by promoting strong relationship with Japan. Germany refrained from exporting weapons to the Chiang Kai-shek. (In fact, it was in l940 when Germany reached an agreement with Japan.)There were someone strongly resisted the change of policy taken by Hitler.
@ (Part5)They were Von Falkenhausen, the head of the military advisory group in China, and Rabe, who represented an interest of Siemens in the Chinese munitions industry as a pro-Chinese group. Rabe exaggerated the Japanese Army’s atrocities and requested Hitler to reconsider the alliance with Japan. Rabe's anti-Japanese reports had been thought suspicious since then.
@ (Part6)Moreover, P. Scharfienberg, the secretary general of the German Embassy to China, who returned to Nanking city on January 9, tried to investigate the fact about 'Japanese Army's atrocities Rabe reported' by himself, and wrote to the German Embassy at Hankow on February 10: “He [Rabe] is still actively trying to counter the bloody excesses of Japanese looters, which have unfortunately increased of late.
@ (Part7)To my mind, this should not concern us Germans, particularly since one can clearly see that the Chinese, once left to depend solely on the Japanese, immediately fraternize. And as for all these excesses, one hears only one side of it, after all.” That report is called untrustworthy story after people defined the fact.
You have to study first and write your comments. You said am I a human being? I don't want to hear that from a liar.
@undertakerRach actually i don't have time to argue with the person as u r!anyway nanjing massacre has been widely admitted by the world~ the person who slander the truth of nanjing is despicable especially the japanese right wingers!with the benefit of politic,they want to cover the truth of history~if u have any time to read a book named "the rape of nanking".i think it will give u the answers!by the way, ur comments r all the conjectures！without any proof to support ur theories!
@bombtomas ■(Part1)Recently, a Chinese American named Iris Chang wrote a book entitled, The Rape of Nanking. It tells about the brutal massacre by the Japanese in Nanking. It became a bestseller in the USA and other countries, and spread the lie of the Nanking Massacre. Later, Chang’s book was much criticized by many other authors.
@bombtomas (Part2)It has been pointed out that what she wrote and the photos in her book were not related to the so-called Nanking Massacre. She shot herself by pistol and died in 2004. The London Economist magazine commented that she had committed suicide perhaps because her book was much criticized and she was deeply depressed about it. In short, Iris Chang, she was a Chinese lady, was a liar.
@undertakerRach the rape of nanking was wrote in 1998~she suicided in 2004. and there is no any connections between them! she was deeply depressed because of the study of the japanese soldier's brutal behaviors during the war!so many pictures and the truth make her a huge mental stress!after the publishing of the book~ she was threatened by the japanese right-wingers! she is not a liar but a big hero!there's no need to kill herself,if she just fabricated the stories!u r the liar!
@bombtomas (Part1)One of the photos shows nine people's heads stand in a line side by side on ground. This photo is used as purported evidence of Nanking Massacre victims, but there was no such custom of gibbeted heads among the Japanese after the 1870s. Among the Chinese, however, this custom was still observed in the 1930s, and several photos of gibbeted heads appeared in cities of China in those days.
@bombtomas (Part2)There was also a case of gibbeted heads in the French Concession in Shanghai on February 12, 1938. Most historians allege that these were the heads of bandits or political criminals killed in the Chinese civil war. Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking has the same photo with a background behind the heads on page 113. Looking at the larger photo, those who had experienced Nanking testified that the background is not of Nanking.
@bombtomas (Part2)As far as I could work it out, at least 4,600 to 18,400 Chinese women should have become pregnant after a set period of time. Furthermore, the big baby boom should have taken place in Nanking 10 months after the fall of Nanking. Have you heard 4.600 of Japanese and Chinese mixed parentage babies were born in China?
@symetricbody if you watched the movie warlords starring jet li, you would see that this is set in an era in which chinese troops used muskets or rifles similiar to muskets. As a matter of fact right before this scene nearly 100 troops sacrificed themselves in a push push through the range of rifles to bring their own archers close enough. So it's even a more important of the movie itself
the prototype is the governor-general of hubei and hunan,his name called Maxinyi. about his die,in our country have many ways.some people say he murdered by marquis Zengguofan. it mast be talk nonsense
@skimyy Makes me wonder what kinds of music we are ripping off from the past ^^ Honestly, I see no point of claiming ownership to something we don't own ... because in reality, what is our is in our heads ... even our graves belong to something greater.
Regarding the little dispute bellow ... It is sad to see tensions between east and west grows within the years. Both are great, both have flaws. What we need to realize, is together we should grow and learn from another to make a greater whole.
Chinese cinema is like to do only movies about war and fairy tales.. movies about social problems are censured.. movies about governement are censured...
@tmrbras And North American movies don't just glorify the west? The west is growing weaker and weaker everyday. I think that censoring social problems to me.
@SupaTROopa2 Of course they don't! There are a lot of movies about social disgraces e DOUBTS about governments, historical trues, reasons and all kind of facts! Also as there are movies glorifying west. My question is why China ONLY LETS fairy tales to be made... it's the worst face of censoring. DO NOT TRY TO COMPARE THE CRAZY CHINA WITH A DEMOCRACY.
@tmrbras Please don't rage at me, your organization makes it look like you were quite angered. That being said, I have almost no idea what you just said. What I got was apparently western movies contain truth and facts and that China is crazy and democracy isn't. Western movies contain no facts and China isn't crazy, your portrail of it is.
Why do Chinese movie producers like to feature Manchu barbarian soldiers killing the righteous Chinese Taiping rebels? Bad guys are heros? Then they should make a movie with heroic Japanese killing and raping in Nanking......silly producers...
Not all Manchus were bad and not all Taipings were good. The "righteousness" of an army largely depends on the general leading it. Some Taiping (Yang Xiuqing or Hong Xiuquan)were cruel and probably very, very insane. Killing their enemies weren't enough, but they had to go kill everyone remotely related to them, which numbers in the tens of thousands. Others such as Shi Dakai were noteworthy in not only having a honorable character, but also being very ahead of his time.
@raffles000 Give me a break,they are Han killing Zhuangs and Hakkas okay? your ignorance is beyond ridiculous,most taiping rebells are not even hans but zhuangs from guangxi,the the qing soldiers in the movie are mostly han chinese temporary militia not even manchu
@Hanul91 lol taiping rebellion was during the qing dynasty. And yes indeed it was pure idiocracy for a war. But then again if u could convince people to join ur side no matter how crazy u actually sound, you get supporters. Many supporters in fact, in this case china was filled with uneducated people from the peasantry who would believe anything in order for a chance at a better life. So there you have it.
@Hanul91 Fail. Stupid whorean with your hangook language. This isn't even based on the Ming, you still talking on and on about it? fucking retard. Ming was over 500 years ago. Get more updated info, son.
@rarerayrules Indeed, if these two worlds can get along, I don't think anyone can stop them. Or us in my condition since I'm an Asian with European descent.
@odiouspariah The guys with the guns were called 太平天國, a religious sect of Christianinty, they were a million-man force in the south and threatened to break away from the empire since Qing was extremely weak due to wars with western colonizers. in the end Qing dynasty won, but it seceded its military positions to Han chinese officers , which led to the fall of the dynasty itself. Some call the 太平天國 an ethnic uprising due to later events disposing the foriegn rule of Manchurians.
@AJaintedMan did they actually do that in a real battlefield, why not just go in and sandwich them instead of watching from the outside running around and around..
@iRaWrsU they keep circling the prey. however, the circle get smaller in every second. when is right distant (or time), they strike. it was a common tatic used by east and middle east asia.
true, Ming is the last chinese dynasty. but manchu qing is not the mongol. they are two groups with different cultures. the manchu language took elements from mongolian but its not mongolian. just like the japanese using chinese characters to create their own language.
@odiouspariah no, this movie is about three warlord at Ming or Qing?
they were still strong though. they had the early guns. probably 15th century muskets... but it's about those three warlords and they became blood brothers. but after gaining lots of power, they started to envy one another
@odiouspariah Chinese Brave-heart? White people love to base everything on their own cuz the think they are god race. This is Chinese history not Chinese Brave-heart History. By the way your beloved Columbus, is America's Zhang He. Feel good?
@zyxy3k I'm not white ya fuckin' eggroll. It was just a joking, unserious observation too. Next time get to know people before you start crying about what they say. It's just a goddamn movie. Feel good?
we maoris are a the "indigenous" (now im sure i spelled that wrong) people of new zealand haha. just about the randomest race a person can be. aparently my ancestors were cannibals lol
o.k. maybe im wrong. I guess if you think about it, asians are pretty tough. Now that you mention bruce lee, ive changed my mind. I know for a fact that bruce lee, can kick any mexican, black or white guys ass!!
Well, I don't know you are White, Black, Mexican or from Mars, but I know you are a real pussy who can only hide behind the computer and talk shits, because a short Asian guy can kick you and rape you in no time, so shut the fuck up and get a life you loser.
Well i fought plenty of Asian, in high school. And let me tell something about them. They are fucking weak, they cant put up a fight. I did get my ass kicked by them, once, but only cuz they jumped my ass. They couldnt handle me one on one. It was me and 2 other cousins against 15 pussy ass asians. Its the only way they could win. if they out number u.
funny you should say that.. That's exactly what my hispanic (non-mexican) friends say about mexicans.
I also witnessed a little thai dude knocked out a mexican (my buddy Ramon) in the HS parking lot after school. The fight was like quick 15 seconds of elbows and knees. That was awesome.
Well fuck them mexicans if they be jumping ppl to. They a bunch of pussys if they cant throw down one on one. And well thats pretty impressive of that lil thai dude. haha. I would have loved to have seen that. This story proves 2 me that not all asians are pussys. My respects to that lil thai dude, Hes a real man though he might be small, i guess he got some big balls!!
This blood oath... 'not to be born together, but to die together'... isn't it just like Liu Bei, Guan Yu, and Zhang Fei in Romance of the Three Kingdoms?
The character that Jet li plays said that he could defeat a large amount of opponents if he would give him a few troops, then the marshal said yes and got that general to go with him. however the general told Jet li before the battle that he will present his army on the battlefield, but he will not attack since they were outnumbered greatly
in the end, the general saw Jet Li's army fighting so well and decides that he will attack
I like these kinds of movies. Legions of extras, most likely soldiers in the Chinese Army, who have the discipline to perform these complex battle scenes. The use of so many extras may be a headache but they give the scenes more believability than using 200 extras multiplied a thousand times by CGI. Sure you can program a computer to simulate possible human movements but its the spontaniety of actual humans that give the movie and the scenes true realism
well said, makes the movie much more realistic even when big hollywood movie directors disagree and think the cgi does the trick but i love these type of movies like you said, yes you can tell that some cgi was used, but only in parts such as touch up points but with the amount of soldiers used with actual numbers makes the movie so much more enjoyable and plus this is a actaual real life battle
omg i heared some of theme of skyrim
HamZang1124 1 month ago
During my school days in country which was on the EAST side of the iron curtain wnd was heavy influenced by Moscow POV i NEVER EVER heard during history lessons about Nanking massacre so please explain me what interest Soviets would have in hiding such enormus Japan atrocity (let's not forget that Soviets signeg ONLY an armistance with Japan) from public knowledge in east block in apex of COLD WAR?
I think this whole Nanking story was recently rised to counter growing up displeasure of the world
Qusza2007 1 month ago
@Qusza2007 cd...
in regard of China behavior in Tibet.
I suggest fro some Chinese posters to google how many RTS games covered WW II in pacyfic area was banned from China (with Hearts of Iron series at front) ONLY because they showed up Tibet as INDEPENDENT nation (i read on Paradox forum that Chinese government demanded removal any traces of independent Tibet from game from Paradox under ban threat but Paradox said NO so game as banned from china market) and that's rises many questions...
Qusza2007 1 month ago
@Qusza2007 ok,please tell me what did chinese do in tibet? have u been there?have u read any history books of tibet?discuss with me after finish ur homework!
bombtomas 1 month ago
@undertakerRach: are you going to tell us that your Germans killing more then a million jews is a false story too. Also your right China's problems is not your problems, you just keep yourself busy worrying about how many Jews your Germans can kill in a gas chamber.
CHINAFUJIAN 1 month ago
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Tai Pei army vs Qing Dynasty
richardchow2008 2 months ago
The Nanking Massacre was a false story.
Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum?
Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?
Where were 300,000 of dead bodies?
Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@undertakerRach shut up! u motherfucher!
bombtomas 2 months ago
@bombtomas I don't care how you call me, for example, motherfucker. But the Nanking Masacre was a false story.
Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
Why Mao didn't announce about the massacre in the international mass media conferences from 1937 to 1938?
Chinese government can't tell a lie.
If you think the Nanking Massacre was true story, you should show me your conclusive evidence.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@undertakerRach the evidence?haha! so many old japanese soldiers have admitted their behaviors during the war!their dairies their pictures~ so many evidences! u ask me 4 proofs?why mao didn't announce? omg!such idiot as u!who was the president of china during the WW2?read the books pls! face ur own history,ur bloody cruel ancestor who has no humanity!ecoute-moi! u r the motherfucker!
bombtomas 2 months ago
@bombtomas (Part1)According to the ejcjs articles, the majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident has been opened, some the Japanese, the Chinese and people who are speaking English have been attended the conference. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@bombtomas (Part2) The Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@bombtomas (Part3)However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@undertakerRach the truth is u r lack of the base of the knowledge of history~ i don't want to argue with the person as u~it's waste of my time~nanjing massacre is a truth that is well admitted by the world!Iwane Matsuiwas convicted of war crimes and sentenced to death by hanging by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East for responsibility over the Nanking Massacre.even though,Prince Yasuhiko Asaka is the real murder,but he has escaped from the judgement!voila! u motherfucker!
bombtomas 2 months ago
@bombtomas ■(Part1)Here is a data of The Rape of Berlin, which was happened in the summer of 1945, Soviet soldiers caught many German women for raping, and massacred so many German civilians. The pregnancy rate of The Rape of Berlin was 23%. And then Chinese government has been accusing 20,000 to 80,000 of Chinese women were raped by Japanese soldiers.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@undertakerRach r u the human being?u r really lack of human nature just as ur ancestor! i tell u the reason~ because the japs raped the women and then killed them!do u know a german businessman whose name is john rabe! his diary has well recorded the japs behaviors during the nanjing massacre!if u don't trust me ! there r so many documentaries and books made by the westerns may answer ur stupid questions!u motherfucker!
bombtomas 2 months ago
@bombtomas ■(Part1)John Rabe was a member of international Safety Zone Committee in Nanking. Many Chinese people said he was a witness of the Nanking Massacre with confidence. However, he had never witnessed even one case of murder. In spite of that, he sent many reports to Hitler and wrote the stories to his diary. In fact, his diary and reports to Germany were written different number of victims. Why?
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@bombtomas (Part2)For Fear of counter objections, he reported to the Japanese authorities in Nanking city the number of casualties to be 49 based on some extent of reliable information. But on the other hand, to journalists, German diplomats and A. Hitler who were all absent in Nanking, he reported figures with an enormous difference, as if no less than tens of thousands civilians had been killed by Japanese troops. Why did Rabe make a false report of the massacre to Hitler?
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@ (Part3)According to German historian Gerhard Krebs, the reason was based on power politics in his German homeland. “Defeated and depressed in World War I, Germany knew that china was a significant trade partner. Particularly Chiang Kai-shek, who was fighting against the CCP, needed a large number of weapons, while Germany was able to import raw materials that were indispensable for the postwar reconstruction.” The Sino-Japanese War forced Germany to reconsider its foreign policy toward China.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@ (Part4)The Japanese government repeatedly demanded that Germany stop the export of weapons to Japan's enemy Chiang Kai-shek. As the result, Hitler decided to take advantage of containment against the Soviet Union by promoting strong relationship with Japan. Germany refrained from exporting weapons to the Chiang Kai-shek. (In fact, it was in l940 when Germany reached an agreement with Japan.)There were someone strongly resisted the change of policy taken by Hitler.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@ (Part5)They were Von Falkenhausen, the head of the military advisory group in China, and Rabe, who represented an interest of Siemens in the Chinese munitions industry as a pro-Chinese group. Rabe exaggerated the Japanese Army’s atrocities and requested Hitler to reconsider the alliance with Japan. Rabe's anti-Japanese reports had been thought suspicious since then.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@ (Part6)Moreover, P. Scharfienberg, the secretary general of the German Embassy to China, who returned to Nanking city on January 9, tried to investigate the fact about 'Japanese Army's atrocities Rabe reported' by himself, and wrote to the German Embassy at Hankow on February 10: “He [Rabe] is still actively trying to counter the bloody excesses of Japanese looters, which have unfortunately increased of late.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@ (Part7)To my mind, this should not concern us Germans, particularly since one can clearly see that the Chinese, once left to depend solely on the Japanese, immediately fraternize. And as for all these excesses, one hears only one side of it, after all.” That report is called untrustworthy story after people defined the fact.
You have to study first and write your comments. You said am I a human being? I don't want to hear that from a liar.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@undertakerRach actually i don't have time to argue with the person as u r!anyway nanjing massacre has been widely admitted by the world~ the person who slander the truth of nanjing is despicable especially the japanese right wingers!with the benefit of politic,they want to cover the truth of history~if u have any time to read a book named "the rape of nanking".i think it will give u the answers!by the way, ur comments r all the conjectures！without any proof to support ur theories!
bombtomas 1 month ago
@bombtomas ■(Part1)Recently, a Chinese American named Iris Chang wrote a book entitled, The Rape of Nanking. It tells about the brutal massacre by the Japanese in Nanking. It became a bestseller in the USA and other countries, and spread the lie of the Nanking Massacre. Later, Chang’s book was much criticized by many other authors.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
@bombtomas (Part2)It has been pointed out that what she wrote and the photos in her book were not related to the so-called Nanking Massacre. She shot herself by pistol and died in 2004. The London Economist magazine commented that she had committed suicide perhaps because her book was much criticized and she was deeply depressed about it. In short, Iris Chang, she was a Chinese lady, was a liar.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
@undertakerRach the rape of nanking was wrote in 1998~she suicided in 2004. and there is no any connections between them! she was deeply depressed because of the study of the japanese soldier's brutal behaviors during the war!so many pictures and the truth make her a huge mental stress!after the publishing of the book~ she was threatened by the japanese right-wingers! she is not a liar but a big hero!there's no need to kill herself,if she just fabricated the stories!u r the liar!
bombtomas 1 month ago
@bombtomas (Part1)One of the photos shows nine people's heads stand in a line side by side on ground. This photo is used as purported evidence of Nanking Massacre victims, but there was no such custom of gibbeted heads among the Japanese after the 1870s. Among the Chinese, however, this custom was still observed in the 1930s, and several photos of gibbeted heads appeared in cities of China in those days.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
@bombtomas (Part2)There was also a case of gibbeted heads in the French Concession in Shanghai on February 12, 1938. Most historians allege that these were the heads of bandits or political criminals killed in the Chinese civil war. Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking has the same photo with a background behind the heads on page 113. Looking at the larger photo, those who had experienced Nanking testified that the background is not of Nanking.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
@bombtomas (Part2)As far as I could work it out, at least 4,600 to 18,400 Chinese women should have become pregnant after a set period of time. Furthermore, the big baby boom should have taken place in Nanking 10 months after the fall of Nanking. Have you heard 4.600 of Japanese and Chinese mixed parentage babies were born in China?
undertakerRach 2 months ago
at :28 I saw a rifle wtf?
symetricbody 4 months ago
@symetricbody if you watched the movie warlords starring jet li, you would see that this is set in an era in which chinese troops used muskets or rifles similiar to muskets. As a matter of fact right before this scene nearly 100 troops sacrificed themselves in a push push through the range of rifles to bring their own archers close enough. So it's even a more important of the movie itself
SpiritWanderer91 3 months ago
電影《投名狀》
LongliveSoviet1917 4 months ago
人自助，然后天助。
hekun830930 5 months ago
warlord staring jet li
NoneShaltPass 6 months ago
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I want to watch the whole movie...
chesterdgreat91 6 months ago
NOW I WANT A TOTAL WAR: CHINA EMPIRES!!!!
Mrasianpopmusic 7 months ago
the prototype is the governor-general of hubei and hunan,his name called Maxinyi. about his die,in our country have many ways.some people say he murdered by marquis Zengguofan. it mast be talk nonsense
inflexibleqi 7 months ago
So this guy who has a fking long ass spear in his heart managed to survive? Cool story bro
deokha 8 months ago
that poor guy in front of the cannon..was there any need to fire it?..
davycrocketful 8 months ago
Fucking music is like 95% replica of Ridley Scott's Gladiator OST.
skimyy 9 months ago
@skimyy Makes me wonder what kinds of music we are ripping off from the past ^^ Honestly, I see no point of claiming ownership to something we don't own ... because in reality, what is our is in our heads ... even our graves belong to something greater.
Regarding the little dispute bellow ... It is sad to see tensions between east and west grows within the years. Both are great, both have flaws. What we need to realize, is together we should grow and learn from another to make a greater whole.
zk4tw 9 months ago
MY LORD, OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTERFEIRD. A SHAMEFUR DISPRAYY!
SupaTROopa2 10 months ago
@SupaTROopa2 thats japanese..
mcdudly00 7 months ago
@mcdudly00 I know, it's also Shogun total war.
SupaTROopa2 7 months ago
@SupaTROopa2 yes thats the point..
mcdudly00 7 months ago
@mcdudly00 fucking japenis dont mention this word at a chinese video u dipshit
hanprider 7 months ago
@hanprider easy dude ur still better than them XD
mcdudly00 7 months ago
This song sounds familiar to gladiator
Ztevie92 10 months ago
Are there whole divisions of the modern Chinese army who practice with ancient weapons so they can be part of all these movies?
hollywoodwerewolf 10 months ago
Chinese cinema is like to do only movies about war and fairy tales.. movies about social problems are censured.. movies about governement are censured...
Sad country.
tmrbras 11 months ago
@tmrbras lol well we love violence and our ppl seem fine wit it
ervin920 10 months ago
@ervin920 So do I! What does it matter?!
tmrbras 10 months ago
@tmrbras And North American movies don't just glorify the west? The west is growing weaker and weaker everyday. I think that censoring social problems to me.
SupaTROopa2 10 months ago
@SupaTROopa2 Of course they don't! There are a lot of movies about social disgraces e DOUBTS about governments, historical trues, reasons and all kind of facts! Also as there are movies glorifying west. My question is why China ONLY LETS fairy tales to be made... it's the worst face of censoring. DO NOT TRY TO COMPARE THE CRAZY CHINA WITH A DEMOCRACY.
tmrbras 9 months ago
@tmrbras Please don't rage at me, your organization makes it look like you were quite angered. That being said, I have almost no idea what you just said. What I got was apparently western movies contain truth and facts and that China is crazy and democracy isn't. Western movies contain no facts and China isn't crazy, your portrail of it is.
SupaTROopa2 9 months ago 8
@tmrbras not really,there are all kinds of movies in China but mainland movies are less exposed to the world compared to hk and taiwan movies
BATURUSHA 3 months ago
wat the name for that movie
sddjs1011100107 11 months ago
que buena pelicula!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zitored 1 year ago
why is Korea so small??
rotcataergeht 1 year ago
@rotcataergeht lol this is a chinese movie lol
storm9999trooper 1 year ago
Why do Chinese movie producers like to feature Manchu barbarian soldiers killing the righteous Chinese Taiping rebels? Bad guys are heros? Then they should make a movie with heroic Japanese killing and raping in Nanking......silly producers...
raffles000 1 year ago
@raffles000
Not all Manchus were bad and not all Taipings were good. The "righteousness" of an army largely depends on the general leading it. Some Taiping (Yang Xiuqing or Hong Xiuquan)were cruel and probably very, very insane. Killing their enemies weren't enough, but they had to go kill everyone remotely related to them, which numbers in the tens of thousands. Others such as Shi Dakai were noteworthy in not only having a honorable character, but also being very ahead of his time.
Anthrophobia2 1 year ago
@raffles000 Give me a break,they are Han killing Zhuangs and Hakkas okay? your ignorance is beyond ridiculous,most taiping rebells are not even hans but zhuangs from guangxi,the the qing soldiers in the movie are mostly han chinese temporary militia not even manchu
BATURUSHA 3 months ago
I juz love it when reinforcements arrives
jakester1998 1 year ago
0:12 EPIC SACRIFICE D:
he died for his general, i want soldiers like him in my video games army
vanpogoro 1 year ago 47
@vanpogoro agree. Don't they just run away even i blow horns every 5 mins to regroup.
korggg123 4 months ago
please tell me what this movie is called?
YWOOOX 1 year ago
@YWOOOX "the warlords"
XLnotsofunny 1 year ago
@f99y
LOL a guy who believe he was jesus led the war? Yes, pure idiocracy for a war.
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 lol taiping rebellion was during the qing dynasty. And yes indeed it was pure idiocracy for a war. But then again if u could convince people to join ur side no matter how crazy u actually sound, you get supporters. Many supporters in fact, in this case china was filled with uneducated people from the peasantry who would believe anything in order for a chance at a better life. So there you have it.
Pikaqiu 1 year ago
@Hanul91 Fail. Stupid whorean with your hangook language. This isn't even based on the Ming, you still talking on and on about it? fucking retard. Ming was over 500 years ago. Get more updated info, son.
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654
IT's quite funny how chinese say Qing is Chinese when in fact they hated them to guts. So what's up whoreanese. XD
Hanul91 1 year ago
@Hanul91 It's funny that you say that yet I haven't even mentioned the Qing, hangook whorean.
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654
I said chinese, not you, chungook whoreanese jjangkae. ^_^
Hanul91 1 year ago
Fake movie, we know the end, Ming lost ^^
Hanul91 1 year ago
Andy Lau, Jet Li, and that dude ahaha
NarutoPHC 1 year ago
From 0:55 - 1:02 the soundtrack sounds a lot like like the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' soundtrack ...
lichtetred 1 year ago
great story and acting. loved the battle scenes.
when was this story set on? Ming or Qing?
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
this movie has some great battle scenes they made it with a big badget like in hollywood but hes kinda boring
recoveryprankcalls 1 year ago
@0:14
OWNAGE
ghostmarines 1 year ago
that's one bad ass dude
thatguywitcalculator 1 year ago
Manchu everlasting sky warriors vs. Tai Ping rebels. Tai Pings were limited by destructive cult-like delusions but inspired future leader Sun Yat Sen
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
@IanHunedoara8 actually, majority of manchu army (also know as 湘軍) was chinese :(
loveryoda 1 year ago
What's the name of this movie ?
DanChimaira 1 year ago
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loveryoda 1 year ago
@rarerayrules Indeed, if these two worlds can get along, I don't think anyone can stop them. Or us in my condition since I'm an Asian with European descent.
avatarspirit57 1 year ago
LOL they formed a noob circle at the end XD
Acekiller89 1 year ago
@odiouspariah The guys with the guns were called 太平天國, a religious sect of Christianinty, they were a million-man force in the south and threatened to break away from the empire since Qing was extremely weak due to wars with western colonizers. in the end Qing dynasty won, but it seceded its military positions to Han chinese officers , which led to the fall of the dynasty itself. Some call the 太平天國 an ethnic uprising due to later events disposing the foriegn rule of Manchurians.
bummer2000 1 year ago
這部電影不咋樣。
kjj9201 1 year ago
more like manchus braveheart......savage barbarians.
Najismongolia 1 year ago
if u ment the calvaries then they are doing it to surround and keep the enemy at bay
popscott 1 year ago
why do they make circles and circles at the end?
iRaWrsU 1 year ago
@iRaWrsU To surround the enemy :P
AJaintedMan 1 year ago
@AJaintedMan did they actually do that in a real battlefield, why not just go in and sandwich them instead of watching from the outside running around and around..
iRaWrsU 1 year ago
@iRaWrsU do you know how the fox hunt the chicken?
loveryoda 1 year ago
@loveryoda no. how?
iRaWrsU 1 year ago
@iRaWrsU they keep circling the prey. however, the circle get smaller in every second. when is right distant (or time), they strike. it was a common tatic used by east and middle east asia.
loveryoda 1 year ago
@iRaWrsU war lord (投名狀in chinese)
loveryoda 1 year ago
love this movie, very raw
tofumatrix 1 year ago
Yaaay he got the head. Now shrink and put it on the mantle. lmao XD
MaximvsDread 2 years ago
awesome movie
IKaeso 2 years ago
EPIC
s2w2a2t 2 years ago
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maxlol0 2 years ago
hard to say you are right.
AmPeaceInHeart 2 years ago
true, Ming is the last chinese dynasty. but manchu qing is not the mongol. they are two groups with different cultures. the manchu language took elements from mongolian but its not mongolian. just like the japanese using chinese characters to create their own language.
wintercocooo 2 years ago
looks like u r right.thx bro
maxlol0 2 years ago
this is neither boxer rebellion nor genghis khan, this is a battle between imperial qing army and 'taiping' rebellion
StephenG7 2 years ago
Yeah, your're right. I always thought Taiping and the Boxer rebellion were the same thing. Apparently I was wrong.
harrison28514 2 years ago
Is this Genghis khan?
NEWjafan12 2 years ago
No it's not. It's the Boxer Rebellion in the 19th century.
harrison28514 2 years ago
oh OK thanks
NEWjafan12 2 years ago
I'm sorry, huge correction: it was the Taiping rebellion. SORRY.
harrison28514 2 years ago
jet li owns
bioemir 2 years ago
So this is pretty much Chinese Braveheart?
odiouspariah 2 years ago 31
@odiouspariah
no, this is bigger than braveheart
ironmantis25 1 year ago
@odiouspariah i guess.......
m1grand70 1 year ago
@odiouspariah no, this movie is about three warlord at Ming or Qing?
they were still strong though. they had the early guns. probably 15th century muskets... but it's about those three warlords and they became blood brothers. but after gaining lots of power, they started to envy one another
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
@odiouspariah Chinese Brave-heart? White people love to base everything on their own cuz the think they are god race. This is Chinese history not Chinese Brave-heart History. By the way your beloved Columbus, is America's Zhang He. Feel good?
zyxy3k 1 year ago
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odiouspariah 1 year ago
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odiouspariah 1 year ago
@zyxy3k I'm not white ya fuckin' eggroll. It was just a joking, unserious observation too. Next time get to know people before you start crying about what they say. It's just a goddamn movie. Feel good?
odiouspariah 1 year ago
@odiouspariah But on ur channel, ur white wtf????
saugeen3000 1 year ago
@saugeen3000 Nope, hispanic, unfortunately. Full hispanic.
odiouspariah 1 year ago
@odiouspariah You look white to me lol. You also act like it.
RalphyGreene 11 months ago
@RalphyGreene Cool story bro
odiouspariah 11 months ago
@odiouspariah Thats what I mean by you act like it.
RalphyGreene 11 months ago
@RalphyGreene I'm just not a spic :)
odiouspariah 11 months ago
@odiouspariah So youre white than.
RalphyGreene 11 months ago
@RalphyGreene Sure, whatever will help you sleep better
odiouspariah 11 months ago
@odiouspariah Yup sounds like something a white person would say lol.
RalphyGreene 11 months ago
@RalphyGreene Then I'm on the path to success :D
odiouspariah 11 months ago
@odiouspariah Cool story bro.
RalphyGreene 11 months ago
@odiouspariah haha they are fighting for fortune,sadly.
TWL012 11 months ago
this movie about Qing vs Ming?
SniperfzeroX 2 years ago
No, it's the Taiping rebellion. The Ming were long gone by this time.
Anthrophobia2 2 years ago
No, Qing imperial army vs. Taiping army.
ManjuSu 2 years ago
no, this happened during 1800s Ming already disappeared for several hundred years
xiaxialuo 2 years ago
this Jet Li movie takes place during the Taiping Rebellion (Imperial China:1850-1864).
misterclock 2 years ago
Jet Li Rocks!! Maori ROCKS! All pakeha cant win any battle of one on one! LOL
onlyme618 2 years ago
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DgosFinnest 2 years ago
5 foot tall asian men (:
FXThug 2 years ago
yeah and whats funnier than that is that they can beat the fuck out of big western men. can you say HIYAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mehico33 2 years ago
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DgosFinnest 2 years ago
haha i like how you included mexicans. im moari lol, bruce lee is a personal hero of mine
mehico33 2 years ago
and the funniest thing of all is that i spelled maori wrong :)
mehico33 2 years ago
whats maori ??
DgosFinnest 2 years ago
we maoris are a the "indigenous" (now im sure i spelled that wrong) people of new zealand haha. just about the randomest race a person can be. aparently my ancestors were cannibals lol
mehico33 2 years ago
o.k. maybe im wrong. I guess if you think about it, asians are pretty tough. Now that you mention bruce lee, ive changed my mind. I know for a fact that bruce lee, can kick any mexican, black or white guys ass!!
DgosFinnest 2 years ago
how about genghis khan?
marzsc 2 years ago
I dont know who that is. But if he can fight as good as bruce lee. I guess he must be pretty tough aswell.
DgosFinnest 2 years ago
and your a pce of sht who talks sht online but in reality your the little pussy
Tdwjoker5 2 years ago
Oh what ever man blow me hahahahaha. It makes me so happy when idiots like u take it to personally. Get angry and shit like a lil girl. :)
DgosFinnest 2 years ago
Lawl at the beaner talking, how you cross the border line chicken?
Tdwjoker5 2 years ago
Well, I don't know you are White, Black, Mexican or from Mars, but I know you are a real pussy who can only hide behind the computer and talk shits, because a short Asian guy can kick you and rape you in no time, so shut the fuck up and get a life you loser.
TopTu999 2 years ago
Well i fought plenty of Asian, in high school. And let me tell something about them. They are fucking weak, they cant put up a fight. I did get my ass kicked by them, once, but only cuz they jumped my ass. They couldnt handle me one on one. It was me and 2 other cousins against 15 pussy ass asians. Its the only way they could win. if they out number u.
DgosFinnest 2 years ago
you are a fine net warrior indeed. the guys from mental asylum are proud at you. you might as well join them...
reaperonlineIAM 2 years ago
funny you should say that.. That's exactly what my hispanic (non-mexican) friends say about mexicans.
I also witnessed a little thai dude knocked out a mexican (my buddy Ramon) in the HS parking lot after school. The fight was like quick 15 seconds of elbows and knees. That was awesome.
seatownz 2 years ago
Well fuck them mexicans if they be jumping ppl to. They a bunch of pussys if they cant throw down one on one. And well thats pretty impressive of that lil thai dude. haha. I would have loved to have seen that. This story proves 2 me that not all asians are pussys. My respects to that lil thai dude, Hes a real man though he might be small, i guess he got some big balls!!
DgosFinnest 2 years ago
Muay Thai-ed!
General1lol 2 years ago
.........this movie named Tou ming Zhuang
Chinese movie~~
248836b 2 years ago
Warlord, best Chinese warfare movie ever!
RaidenXyooj 2 years ago
holy fuck at :14
TheKChannel 2 years ago
This blood oath... 'not to be born together, but to die together'... isn't it just like Liu Bei, Guan Yu, and Zhang Fei in Romance of the Three Kingdoms?
Souw92 2 years ago
who wants to attack china? why they deloping suck a big millitery for wat use
if its too powerful n rich then its useless
ninja911again 2 years ago
what movie is this?
pitot1988 2 years ago
WTF at the end, where are those guys come from???...i thought he was commander and charged all he got to the battle...hm i don't understand.
SwornReaper 2 years ago 3
u need tow atch the whole movie to understand-
The character that Jet li plays said that he could defeat a large amount of opponents if he would give him a few troops, then the marshal said yes and got that general to go with him. however the general told Jet li before the battle that he will present his army on the battlefield, but he will not attack since they were outnumbered greatly
in the end, the general saw Jet Li's army fighting so well and decides that he will attack
charlie845 2 years ago 3
I like these kinds of movies. Legions of extras, most likely soldiers in the Chinese Army, who have the discipline to perform these complex battle scenes. The use of so many extras may be a headache but they give the scenes more believability than using 200 extras multiplied a thousand times by CGI. Sure you can program a computer to simulate possible human movements but its the spontaniety of actual humans that give the movie and the scenes true realism
hollywoodwerewolf 2 years ago
well said, makes the movie much more realistic even when big hollywood movie directors disagree and think the cgi does the trick but i love these type of movies like you said, yes you can tell that some cgi was used, but only in parts such as touch up points but with the amount of soldiers used with actual numbers makes the movie so much more enjoyable and plus this is a actaual real life battle
princeaferd 2 years ago
peliculon
beltrantemple 2 years ago