why does everyone compare the rb26 to 2jz?? yes, they are both twin turbos, but one is 2.6 and the other is 3.0....wouldnt a 1jz(2.5 higher revving) be more comparable to the rb26????? making the power isnt the problem, how u want to apply it is what matters...
each motor is built differently, different power bands, and they probably react with differently depending on the size of the turbo etc, there are many things to take into consideration in a race
The 2J is good for making power no doubt, but the 2j will never rev like an RB so it dont matter, its all in what your doing with it. for drag racing or building massive power to roll highway on, sure the 2j is superior, for drift, I would take the RB over the 2j simply becuse its a very rev happy motor and it sounds better lol. they have RB's making nearly as much if not the same kind of power that 2j's are putting down as well. Just sayin...
NOW. Quit being a tool and come to the obvious that both engine's are quite powerful. Yes you might lean for one or the other, but when ALL else fails, go compare your "godly" supra, say the Titan Motorsports one, too mazworx S15 or Skyline. DOH. Nissan FTW.
PS. Agreed with above commenter about fake. I don't believe a boat of a supra making 630 HP would out run a S chassis making 620. I don't think it'd out run a s chassis making 500 hp, but thats just me.
@CRyan881 bro u wanna compare titan to mazworx is just unfair titan supra is street legal and mazworx is nowhere to that now if u really wanna compare cars in the same class compare the 2JZ titan tc to mazworx u dumbass titan runs a whole sec faster
Please type in your search box "Titan Motorsports vs Mazworx" and find the video posted by username "BoostedGt3576" i believe. The mazworx car MISSES a shift and still seems to come from a 5 car down to being only a .100 slower than the supra. I can only expect a boat of the car as the supra, to be SO fast.
But thank you for the "bro" comment, further acknowledging you are a tool.
@CRyan881 r u serious ur gonna talk about 10 sec cars wtf any car can run 10 sec and u dont get the point no rb engine will ever be as powerfull as a 2JZ because displacement and they cant handle big boost like a 2JZ
@MrKing651 no RB engine can do wat a 2JZ can RB is garbage its only for people who watch fast and furious and think the skyline is the fastest car ever RB can not handle or make as much power as 2JZ can
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA wow ur fucking retarted....rb can be a lot of different things...rb20det may suck when u compare it to 2jz but rb25det and rb26dett have tons of potential and can be just as deadly as a 2jz
Its only the people who watch the fast and furious who think the Supra is the fastest car ever, though.
On an off note, I (and a sponsoring shop) used the stock bottom end of an RB25 and were able to make 730 HP. Tell me a Toyota engine that is possible of 500+ horsepower (oh, I missed torque) and 900 FOOT POUNDS OF TORQUE.
Meh, to each there own. I don't care to have some e-fight. But I also hate when people decide to bash an engine I alon have proven is worthy.
@CRyan881 hey before u talk shit there supra with 900 hp on stock block and dont try saying a RB engine is better then a 2JZ because it is nowhere near it
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA Punctuation is your friend. Nor was I "talking shit." I can't even attempt to "argue" with you because you sound like someone who just left the Redline movie set. "Top end is better." Alright. Again. Toyota is not meant for building high rev engines (besides the 20v 1.8 used in most 86 drift cars.) The reason the Supra engine is considerably strong is because its effort to be able to push such large turbo's. If I had another half liter of exhaust gases being burned, I would too.
@omnispyder420 i blame it on the transmitions. once the 40 shifted it was over. was it a variable valve supra? 2jz may be a better engine but if their making the same power they should be close to even. especially like i said the 40 weighs less. are you saying the 2jz is better then the whole 240sx? you do know the sr didnt come in the 40 right? you know power doesnt win races by its self. theres other factors. supra is a great car and so is the 240sx. you cant say eithor one is better.
no offense bro but u don't seem to be knowlegeable of sr20 motors yet u keep making bold statements about displacement and factory psi 7psi?? redtop maybe t25? are talking of a red top any ways bro I've also had a supra mk3 7mgte not my cup of tea ur comparing apples to oranges 4 cyl to 6 cyl and u do know that displacement isn't everything right?
Another thing that bothered the shit out of me was you say street and drag radials....it only matters from a dig, and on top of that, whatd they pull, like half a gear? Dumb race, state what "built" actually means, then we might believe your outrageous numbers in a slow race.
I love reading the comments on youtube and hearing the bullshit people talk like they know this and that about cars... If hp and specs were correct, the s14 woulda blew his doors off. U only rlly need some rods pistons gasket and studs with the right turbo to make a 600 hp sr20, the supra just needs the right turbo with a gasket and studs...so they should be equal? Nahhh that s14 is prolly around 6-700 lbs lighter and woulda stomped em.
if that sr20 was actually a 620hp that race would have actually been interesting it already looked half hearted, I know it takes alot to make the sr20 compare to a 2jz.
@infernoKid2 lol theres no way that a shitty old 4 banger nissan would beat the mighty 2jz. even if you could get a sr20 to be that powerful 630hp would barely tickle the 2jz...
@bohdanko90 thats not always true. since the rb is smaller it can use a smaller turbo to create the same boost levels as the 2jz with a bigger turbo. so the rb will spool faster in this case cause it uses a smaller turbo but if both engines ran the same size turbo then your statement would be right.
I mean to understand.. the s14 weighing In at 1270kgs the Supra at 1570kgs s14 with Just under 300nm or torque and the supra with 450nm of torque there should really be an equality of physics
are you serious. even if the sr20 has more whp and the s14 weighs less than the supra??? damn you should be a fucking rocket scientist
im not a fan of sr20 because they suck but the car that has more power and weighs less will always win, no matter what motor it is. thats ofcourse if the driver does his job, in this video the s14 dude shifted like my grandma
No shit. But mod for mod, dollar for dollar the 2jz will be better than the sr20.
I thought that it was a pretty simple concept that the one with better power to weight ratio (ie most money poured into it) will win, but if you just have to be a flaming faggot and point out the obvious than this is the place to do it i suppose.
but they are rolling on a high speed... so weight factor is reduced... plus the supra definatly has more torque... but I still don't think the difference is that much... I think the supra is hiding a mod or the real HP...
Somethings either not being said, lied about, or there was an unknown issue. The SR trannies are nicely geared and we're talking about around 1000lbs weight difference. I've seen 450 whp S14's pull MKIV's with more power. Thats how street racing is though, to many factors and BS.
you are correct sir. sr20 dist. went on the fritz and the car was spitting and popping. turn sound all the way up and you can barely hear it over turbo noise. car was buckin and poppin.
Could be right about torque, and gear ratios play a part too. I think if they had kept going you would probably not see too great a difference if their stated horsepowers are accurate. In gear acceleration some what takes away the weight factor too, a standing start would be really interesting.
Lol, i love how u can see the supra's shadow creep over the s14 like a shark.
GenjiSama91 6 months ago
Who else thinks 240s with 2jzs are AMAZING?! Thumbs up.
TheOmegaeyes 8 months ago 2
why does everyone compare the rb26 to 2jz?? yes, they are both twin turbos, but one is 2.6 and the other is 3.0....wouldnt a 1jz(2.5 higher revving) be more comparable to the rb26????? making the power isnt the problem, how u want to apply it is what matters...
boostindoo 11 months ago
each motor is built differently, different power bands, and they probably react with differently depending on the size of the turbo etc, there are many things to take into consideration in a race
hmoobvaj95 1 year ago
The 2J is good for making power no doubt, but the 2j will never rev like an RB so it dont matter, its all in what your doing with it. for drag racing or building massive power to roll highway on, sure the 2j is superior, for drift, I would take the RB over the 2j simply becuse its a very rev happy motor and it sounds better lol. they have RB's making nearly as much if not the same kind of power that 2j's are putting down as well. Just sayin...
SR20FTW 1 year ago
NOW. Quit being a tool and come to the obvious that both engine's are quite powerful. Yes you might lean for one or the other, but when ALL else fails, go compare your "godly" supra, say the Titan Motorsports one, too mazworx S15 or Skyline. DOH. Nissan FTW.
PS. Agreed with above commenter about fake. I don't believe a boat of a supra making 630 HP would out run a S chassis making 620. I don't think it'd out run a s chassis making 500 hp, but thats just me.
CRyan881 1 year ago
@CRyan881 bro u wanna compare titan to mazworx is just unfair titan supra is street legal and mazworx is nowhere to that now if u really wanna compare cars in the same class compare the 2JZ titan tc to mazworx u dumbass titan runs a whole sec faster
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA
Please type in your search box "Titan Motorsports vs Mazworx" and find the video posted by username "BoostedGt3576" i believe. The mazworx car MISSES a shift and still seems to come from a 5 car down to being only a .100 slower than the supra. I can only expect a boat of the car as the supra, to be SO fast.
But thank you for the "bro" comment, further acknowledging you are a tool.
CRyan881 1 year ago
@CRyan881 r u serious ur gonna talk about 10 sec cars wtf any car can run 10 sec and u dont get the point no rb engine will ever be as powerfull as a 2JZ because displacement and they cant handle big boost like a 2JZ
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
sr20 haha
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@MrKing651 no RB engine can do wat a 2JZ can RB is garbage its only for people who watch fast and furious and think the skyline is the fastest car ever RB can not handle or make as much power as 2JZ can
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA wow ur fucking retarted....rb can be a lot of different things...rb20det may suck when u compare it to 2jz but rb25det and rb26dett have tons of potential and can be just as deadly as a 2jz
frostyisag10 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA
Its only the people who watch the fast and furious who think the Supra is the fastest car ever, though.
On an off note, I (and a sponsoring shop) used the stock bottom end of an RB25 and were able to make 730 HP. Tell me a Toyota engine that is possible of 500+ horsepower (oh, I missed torque) and 900 FOOT POUNDS OF TORQUE.
Meh, to each there own. I don't care to have some e-fight. But I also hate when people decide to bash an engine I alon have proven is worthy.
CRyan881 1 year ago
@CRyan881 hey before u talk shit there supra with 900 hp on stock block and dont try saying a RB engine is better then a 2JZ because it is nowhere near it
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA Punctuation is your friend. Nor was I "talking shit." I can't even attempt to "argue" with you because you sound like someone who just left the Redline movie set. "Top end is better." Alright. Again. Toyota is not meant for building high rev engines (besides the 20v 1.8 used in most 86 drift cars.) The reason the Supra engine is considerably strong is because its effort to be able to push such large turbo's. If I had another half liter of exhaust gases being burned, I would too.
CRyan881 1 year ago
@omnispyder420 i blame it on the transmitions. once the 40 shifted it was over. was it a variable valve supra? 2jz may be a better engine but if their making the same power they should be close to even. especially like i said the 40 weighs less. are you saying the 2jz is better then the whole 240sx? you do know the sr didnt come in the 40 right? you know power doesnt win races by its self. theres other factors. supra is a great car and so is the 240sx. you cant say eithor one is better.
the80h 1 year ago
@the80h maybe its because supras top end is better and it had a small turbo so it spooled realy quick and pulled faster then the s14
BIHxJDMxSUPRA 1 year ago
@BIHxJDMxSUPRA ummm im pretty sure the 40 spooled before the supra. and its a fully built sr so im sure it had head work done.
so i still say its the gears or it could be a shitty driver. idk. supra won yay. what ever.
the80h 1 year ago
keep in mind that the 2jz makes a hell of alot more torque then the sr20... 2jz ftw
Hpaddic 1 year ago
no offense bro but u don't seem to be knowlegeable of sr20 motors yet u keep making bold statements about displacement and factory psi 7psi?? redtop maybe t25? are talking of a red top any ways bro I've also had a supra mk3 7mgte not my cup of tea ur comparing apples to oranges 4 cyl to 6 cyl and u do know that displacement isn't everything right?
jdm2nismo 1 year ago
@omnispyder420 guess u dont know much about cars do you? not familiar with specs nor sr20 motors....
jdm2nismo 1 year ago
@omnispyder420 lol i like how you compare an engine to a chassis
2000nissansilvia 1 year ago
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@omnispyder420 pow has a point you dmbfuck.
drewce123 1 year ago
@omnispyder420 pow has a point you dumbfck.
drewce123 1 year ago
Another thing that bothered the shit out of me was you say street and drag radials....it only matters from a dig, and on top of that, whatd they pull, like half a gear? Dumb race, state what "built" actually means, then we might believe your outrageous numbers in a slow race.
blackheart111 1 year ago
I love reading the comments on youtube and hearing the bullshit people talk like they know this and that about cars... If hp and specs were correct, the s14 woulda blew his doors off. U only rlly need some rods pistons gasket and studs with the right turbo to make a 600 hp sr20, the supra just needs the right turbo with a gasket and studs...so they should be equal? Nahhh that s14 is prolly around 6-700 lbs lighter and woulda stomped em.
blackheart111 1 year ago
i dont belive they ran properly and if they did asoon as the soup comes on boost the torque from a 3l 6 would just destroy a 2l 4
3021bob 1 year ago
Something as simple as gear change times and gear ratio make a big difference.
The Supra is just about perfect for it all.
grandchancelor 1 year ago
nigga u dont know it doest matter dat size of dat engine. if the size was important americans cars will be dat faster.but no they r dat slowes.
RB25luv 1 year ago
that the torque of 2jz and i think dont the for banger was driven properly
Agnola 1 year ago
if that sr20 was actually a 620hp that race would have actually been interesting it already looked half hearted, I know it takes alot to make the sr20 compare to a 2jz.
dsportnissan 1 year ago
bull shit.. that s14 shouldve smoked that heavy ass supra....a ka-t wouldve done the job.
infernoKid2 1 year ago
@infernoKid2 lol theres no way that a shitty old 4 banger nissan would beat the mighty 2jz. even if you could get a sr20 to be that powerful 630hp would barely tickle the 2jz...
Jonoc123 1 year ago
@Jonoc123 thats what z-tune skylines are for ......
gabealexander88 1 year ago
@Jonoc123 Nothing of that statement made any sense. From an educated standpoint, the S14 would win.
0ukami 1 year ago
@omnispyder420 since when is an s14 an engine ? somehow with all the excuses you excused your intelligence .....
Red97Avenger 1 year ago 2
@omnispyder420
if you got by the power/weight ratio on both cars s14 should have won no doubt. i still love both cars though
lingazin 1 year ago
RB spool fater dan 2jz.but 2j have more top end
RB25luv 1 year ago
@RB25luv 2JZ is a 3L so its better down low then the 2.6L RB, RB will be abit more rev happy tho but no doubt that the 2JZ is a better engine
equoowe 1 year ago
@equoowe hmmm not necessarily the RB26 is probably the better engine but they're both good no doubt. Go tak a look at an RB30DET. : )
Zenki240sxse 1 year ago
@RB25luv You are the biggest moron i have ever seen... do you know what displacement is??? the bigger the engine the faster you spool
bohdanko90 1 year ago
@bohdanko90 thats not always true. since the rb is smaller it can use a smaller turbo to create the same boost levels as the 2jz with a bigger turbo. so the rb will spool faster in this case cause it uses a smaller turbo but if both engines ran the same size turbo then your statement would be right.
xbartosx 1 year ago
@xbartosx what i meant was that the same size turbo back housing.
bohdanko90 1 year ago
@bohdanko90 i know i was just being a middle man cause you both meant different things but you were both right.
xbartosx 1 year ago
$wise ka-t rocks
CrazyRussian188 2 years ago
I mean to understand.. the s14 weighing In at 1270kgs the Supra at 1570kgs s14 with Just under 300nm or torque and the supra with 450nm of torque there should really be an equality of physics
LJStorm 2 years ago
every fucking race that the cars are almost equal in power one fucking dumb ass cant drive! ALWAYS!!!!!
bohdanko90 2 years ago
Equal HP yes but not equal torque or weight or gear ratios. Take these Into account.
LJStorm 1 year ago
Did you hear how the s14 dude was shifting?
bohdanko90 1 year ago
As a Nissan fan and s14 owner, let me say that the 2jz will ALWAYS beat an sr20 or any other 4 banger.
thacrunkmasta69 2 years ago
unless the driver of the supra has no idea how to drive lol
goatman5 2 years ago
are you serious. even if the sr20 has more whp and the s14 weighs less than the supra??? damn you should be a fucking rocket scientist
im not a fan of sr20 because they suck but the car that has more power and weighs less will always win, no matter what motor it is. thats ofcourse if the driver does his job, in this video the s14 dude shifted like my grandma
bohdanko90 2 years ago
No shit. But mod for mod, dollar for dollar the 2jz will be better than the sr20.
I thought that it was a pretty simple concept that the one with better power to weight ratio (ie most money poured into it) will win, but if you just have to be a flaming faggot and point out the obvious than this is the place to do it i suppose.
thacrunkmasta69 2 years ago
6cyl > 4cyl
hmong337 2 years ago
True lol
nitrousboy0311 2 years ago
Fake, fake, fake. Post a real race bro. 622 and 630hp no way in life would have ended like that.
powicito 3 years ago 16
i agree and all the dumb asses still talk shit on the stuff i wrote
bohdanko90 1 year ago
@powicito lol that was like maybe 330 vs 320
kirtster 1 year ago
@powicito HP isnt everything in a race mate, the 2J makes more torque then the SR and will spool up the turbo quicker, top end power isnt everything.
R33GTR4U 1 year ago
@powicito they probably didnt even hit the gas that much.
silverstonedwolf1 9 months ago
@powicito Agree this isn't even a race more like a pull through 3rd gear and then letting off.
mccaf2250 8 months ago
Something wrong with the 240.
ThaCrunksta187 3 years ago
ya no torque
onefast87 2 years ago
its his shifting.... my grandma can do better
bohdanko90 1 year ago
Maybe a rb26dett would do the s 14 some justice
edrysetuy961 3 years ago
sounds like the s14 started to sputter or something
marc96accord 3 years ago
yeah its called a rev limiter...
jlc0912 3 years ago
nah man, I believe this 240 was built by cft then a guy here in NC bought it b/c I bought the front lip off it for my s14, it had a different
problem
marc96accord 3 years ago
but they are rolling on a high speed... so weight factor is reduced... plus the supra definatly has more torque... but I still don't think the difference is that much... I think the supra is hiding a mod or the real HP...
wajouba 3 years ago
@wajouba go back to middle school man, your car doesnt become lighter if you go faster
bohdanko90 1 year ago
Somethings either not being said, lied about, or there was an unknown issue. The SR trannies are nicely geared and we're talking about around 1000lbs weight difference. I've seen 450 whp S14's pull MKIV's with more power. Thats how street racing is though, to many factors and BS.
stupidbikerboy 4 years ago
you are correct sir. sr20 dist. went on the fritz and the car was spitting and popping. turn sound all the way up and you can barely hear it over turbo noise. car was buckin and poppin.
Fasterthanyours 4 years ago
If he intended on doing high way pulls or drag racing then he should have rebuilt the
KA24DE. If he drifts -_- then the sr is fine and he shouldn't be doing high way pulls.
xXIreallyDontCareXx 4 years ago
dont forget the SR is for canyon! tooor mix both canyon drifting, lol lost a bumper like that, haha
reconrecon7over 3 years ago
Could be right about torque, and gear ratios play a part too. I think if they had kept going you would probably not see too great a difference if their stated horsepowers are accurate. In gear acceleration some what takes away the weight factor too, a standing start would be really interesting.
zeeoz 4 years ago
yeah...must be the huuuuuge torque the 2j has
glen284u 4 years ago
wow thats pretty sad for an apparent 622whp 240sx that probably weighs an easy 700-800 pounds less vs a supra with just 8 more hp!!
LUDE4LIFE1 4 years ago