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  • Mainstream scientists have such a high respect for themselves that they cant even imagine any government holding things back from them like this...oh what outrage. The fact is people, these fools, dont know anything, they are on for one reason,to make up the show, to make people angry and get a reaction. simple. Anything of this nature,even a new patent or theory that could be dangerous to national security, even the monetary system, would be removed and hidden. Thats a fact, thats your answer

  • The point is this, the debunker guy in the middle does not poses the intelligence to comprehend reality...hey that's cool......

  • @forrestpaul555 Even if that's the case, it's still a huge cover up, and shows just how evil the people in power can really be.

  • we dont understand the cosmos and life itself, therefore we know abserlutely NOTHING. sure it's brill 2 b open minded/ curious/ fascinated about everythin around us but truth is the more questions we ask the more unanswered we get and it will drive u crazy. we'l never find out whats going on, we've dug 2 much of a hole that there isnt a chance in hell we can get out of it, we should just live like animals and b oblivious 2 everything goin on around us with 0 greed, 0 secretes and 0 evil

  • i wonder if the alien bodys are in area51

  • Quote:

    'If we can't believe them, who can we believe? Evidence, you don't talk about evidence!'

    This is simply a lack of evidence. This is like the weapons of mass destruction thing... Where is the evidence?'

    I tend to believe (because I want) but you got to admit that it's a very good argument here guys.

    Could be our own technology maybe. You know, the nazi footage of ufo's they build. And after the war the US obtained the technology and scientists and experimented with it.

  • well, it takes a leap of faith, sure. but the coincidences, the mass of briefings and witnesses since the 1940's, the permanent discourse over the decades, the way this topic is presented, discussed, dismissed, reopened etc etc....I mean come on, all the buzz and there is absolutely NOTHING, i mean zero, to it? hard to imagine.

  • its well known throughout the universe that humans are quite tasty...mainly due to diet and an inordinate fat to muscle ratio...we ARE here and we are fattening you up for the kill...the earth is our larder...

  • eww, the skeptic makes me sick

  • You can see that the general was lying, he could not stop blinking!

  • 2:37 and we wonder why the aliens wont come forward.... maybe not the best welcome to dissect their bodies, photograph it and discuss it

    how fucking disgusting is that, imagine u enter another planet and the first thing they do is kill you to simply dissect you....

  • The question is, if it was a balloon, why would they show a Top Secret project and release it to the media as they did? I think that has been over looked.

  • This debunker Michael is just another Government Patsy Liar.. Who in the hell cares if you believe .. I do, and that's that.

  • That skeptic just destroyed these clowns hahaha. Wow. That was beautiful. And for those who believe that aliens have been here...oh my god you people are gullible.

  • @sigurjong Gullible? Come on man you actually believe that "we" are the only ones in the cosmos......

  • Oh no. There are plenty of earth like planets out there. But we have never been visited by aliens.

  • You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. If the entire electromagnetic spectrum was a rope 2700miles long the range of human vision would be capable of seeing 2.5 inches of it. This episode of LKL actually convinced Larry of the fact that some Unidentified Flying Objects are in fact Extra-terrestrial craft piloted by beings not of the Earth. I was saddened by Bill Nye, he really made an ass of himself. As if he was being paid to take an untenable position.

  • the problem is this: skeptics (scientists and otherwise) are the one's who feel they've got everything to lose: prestige, power, relevance and possibly their research grants & professional positions - that is, their paychecks. hence, denial, kinda like when a friend tells you he's seen your wife of 10 plus years w/ another guy - at first you don't WANT to believe it.

  • WTF did you just say. Skeptics have everything to lose?. I'D LOVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE. IT WOULD TRULY MAKE MY DAY AND MAKE LIFE A LITTLE INTERESTING. BUT FIRST YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE AND YOU HAVE SHIT!!!!!! YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT IDIOTIC WITNESSES WITH THE CRACK PIPE SO FAR UP THEIR ASSES IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY. GIVE ME EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!

  • Why the screaming & cussing? did YOUR wife cheat on you? Now, on a serious note,do yourself a favor, do some research, read the scientist/authors w/ the data(try Jacques Valleé for starters)...having said that, part of the problem is that here in Brazil, things are a bit harder to suppress than in the US, so there's a lot of stuff here u don't even dream about;I never said that "Aliens" have landed, what I meant is that the phenomenon IS REAL and largely Extra Dimensional.Peace

  • Largely extra dimensional?. Why not just say PURELY UNKNOWN. Let's get one thing straight when talking about UFOs. We are not talking about visitors from outer space. THERE'S ZERO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT. EVERYTHING IS MAN MADE AND YOU KNOW IT!. AN OLD FRIEND OF MY GRANDFATHER'S WAS HIGH IN THE MILITARY AND HE SAID THE WHOLE THING WAS B.S. HE WAS THERE AT ROSWELL, HE WAS IN KECKSBURG AND HE WAS IN SHAG HARBOUR. NOTHING LANDED THERE!. EXCEPT THERE WAS A WEATHER BALLON IN ROSWELL!!!

  • Quick reply! 1) the fact whoever in the military said so, doesn't prove or disprove anything either: great uncle of mine a captain in the navy worked as chief of guard for Brazil's president, back in'51, when he and eight other men saw a large, pulsating orb of light just behind and Above the Sugar-loaf mountain( in Rio de Janeiro). again , if you read a serious researcher like Jacques Valleé, you'll see that th phenomenon ,goes back in time, before "we" had any technology to pull it off.

  • An orb of light...oh come. It could've been a reflection...and most likely some guys yanking their chain. They did it in Phoenix with the flares. Everybody thought it was a UFO...turns out it was all a big hoax. Aliens have not been here. We would know if that would happen. And why can't you accept that?. Why be so delusional?. SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE!. AND DON'T GIVE ME CRAPPY PICTURES OR IDIOTIC WITNESSES. SHOW ME A CRAFT AND SHOW ME ALIEN BODIES. IF YOU CAN DO THAT THEN I'LL BUY INTO THIS.

  • it was NOT a HOAX you idiot, they said it was FLARES, but thousands disagreed. One of these was the Governer who himself has a military background. Why would you bother disputing something so passionately when you obviosuly have no idea what you are talking about.. who could have hoaxed what was claimed to be hundreds of metres in size you fool

  • The 2008 sighting was a HOAX. Look it up. Almost everybody agrees on it!. The guy tied flares to helium balloons..HE ADMITTED IT!. However the 1997 sightings were most likely airplanes flying in formation. People reported that and I know one witness who used a high powered telescope and it was clear to her it was airplanes. There is a phenomena called illusory contour. Look that up too. And that's what happened here.

  • Stanton Friedman for president!

  • This debunker guy is really something! .Does he believe in what he is saying?Or what!

  • Disinformation agent the cunt

  • Yeah he's really annoying at times. His ideas are just ridiculous really.

  • There's no way Jesse Marcel could have mistook a Project Mogul balloon aray for an alien craft. He was the head of base intelligence. He was trained to recognize all types of radar reflector materials. Nothing in Project Mogul was unique material. Only it's mission was classified. The Military lied and still is.

    PS - Bill Nye is indeed an idiot.

  • Wow, that skeptic guy is such an idiot. So he goes by this logic of "there's no evidence, so they don't exist?".... So we have documentation around the world from different time periods (who have never met each other) explaining the exact same phenomena and they just COINCIDENTALLY happened to have hoaxed the exact same thing? WOW... And he argues that there was evidence then the government wouldn't hide it. HELLO, obviously they wouldn't tell anyone so they can keep the tech for themselves.

  • lol shut up, your logic is childish and idiotic

  • How? Considering you haven't even said anything yourself.

  • I agreed :)

  • the first clip shows Mr.Haynes speaking on behalf of the Army and Air Force. What a shame, what a shame. Dummies started in the early 50's not 1947. People including the base nurse saw the body. This is the military, not civilian life, anyone who has been in the military knows about the silence and "shut your mouth or else".

    Shermer keeps saying why cover it up as if this was being covered up by Congress. Black Budget spending is factual, documented. So reason to cover up is very probable.

  • it was backenginered tec that the US got from the Nazis and where trying to perfect.. thinking that we are alone in the universe are just stupid but i belive the nazis were the ones to find the alien artifacts

  • What a smug little bitch.

  • dummies were not around when the ufo crash happened

  • Star trek will never happen. People don't get along with each other well enough for that to work.

  • your just mad

  • I TELL YOU WHAST

    UFOs AND ALIENS ARE NOT REAL UNTIL PROVEN REAL AND GUILTY.

    THERE!

    ANYBODY IS WELCOM TO GO OUT THERE AND PROVE IT TO THE POINT THAT NO ONE CAN POSSIBLY SAY THAT IT IS NOT REAL.

    THERE!

  • i saw one.

  • No you didn't, you're nothing but a loser

  • im not a fucking loser, kn0w what i saw.

  • I believe there are aliens and ufos who have visited us. To believe that we are the only ones in this universe is a scary and lonely thought (for me, that is)

    Plus, I'm a Star Trek fan, so I WANT to believe there are aliens!....hopefully friendly ones like the Vulcans are looking over us (haha, only star trek fans would understand this, lol)

  • NERD ALERT

  • yup, haha. Proud of it :)

  • should be =)

  • If you Guys and Ladies want to know the truth, visit my favorites, be prepared for a very lengthy research voyage. Love and Peace John

  • aliens are real billions and billions of planets out there we r not the only intelligent form now :!

  • Billions ? U dont know how, ur guessingl.

  • wow,did you hear the army guy in the first 20 seconds of this film??..he said they put 'crash test dummies',in body bags,daaaam,why do that they aint living-dead,entities..shit..wh­o are they trying to kid here,ufos are real,and sightings,will grow..

  • I know like they need to protect "dummies" ..from what???? dust, scratches ??? LOL

  • Typo Bitch!!!!!!!

  • i hate the fanatic sceptic why does larry invite metally ill skeptics that are fanatics and dont see the hand infront of them.

  • No kidding. Why should we even train our police officers or military personel in incident reporting or observation, if thats the case. Completely ignorant assumption by that skeptic.

  • That one skeptic guy is one real fucken idiot isnt he, saying that military personal and commercial pilots are no better trained on what they saw in the sky,then the normal average citizen ,he's just making himself look like a real retard on this show that 4 sure!

  • Its MILATARY, Whats the ODDS that Aliens can invent a vechicle thats made from a Material that can substain itself, through the deepest parts of Space. million to 1 Chance

  • he just forgot to put after his sentence the *ironic* sign mistakes happen.

  • You must work for the airforce. That is an old lie.

  • ok but heard it all before

  • this skeptic fails to mention that the residents of roswell and the rancher both saw weather balloons in the area on numerous occassions. brazzel had recovered balloon debris in the past before the roswell event. weather baloons, my ass...

  • yeah but what about the fact that Mogul along with other highly classified projects in that area were at the highest security possible. So anyone with no knowledge of the projects would think alien craft ever since kenneth arnold's sightings. and it was the craze in the late 40's so alot of people mistook high tech spy balloons for alien. these things were over 650 ft long and the equipment added made it look like a jellyfish. so from a far away distance it's easy to mistake things.

  • Not only capitalist but other fundamentalist Nations would hate to see for a new change that will separate us from religions and fixed gods. We all know we evoled and that no god nor aliens created us. We evolved as other life forms evolved as well. The universe is old. Old enough for other intelligent life forms to become truly civilized millenias ago.

  • Also why hide it? Another simple answer is that we might share space and the planet with other life forms and our exploiting capitalist govs will loose their forced authority to join what is called I call equality around the world. No terrestrial borders and no space borders. NO more wars for lands.

  • Why hide it? the simple answer is that the Alien craft are powered by Zero Point energy, if this info is released the status quo will loose their power base, which they maintain through energy distribution like oil and electricity

  • WHAT THE FUCK thats aggravating. Shermer doesn't let anyone finish a single friggin sentence. tell him to shut his fuckin mouth and dont speak until hes spoken to. He has no respect or consideration for the others, always interrupting. otherwise i would have enjoyed watching this. Shermer should be youthinized

  • LMAO I know, I despise people like that. Everytime he opens his trap I want to reach through the screen and backhand his rude ass.

  • Whos gonna believe aluminum foil and pieces of a balloon are parts of a craft having the ability of space flight??

  • How come Marcel said nothing about the Disc back in 1947?? He was involved with the scattered wreckage.  SO, who was involved with disc recovery??

  • Because they was nothing than a secret

    600ft. long, crashed spy ballon train called

    MOGUL Flight #4 [Moore]. You must further

    know, that retirements, Marcel got, were rather low. So he jumped on the Santilli-

    train and tried to make a little money too. Fact is, that all claimed 'death-bed confessions' of involved personal [Marcel to Haut et al.] contradict scientific findings in important details. [USAF RR]

  • anybody know which verse in the bible talks about the aliens???....

  • it says God made man and Beast alike. thats about all i can come up with. just depends on how you take that. i think of the human looking ones but thats just me, and greys or reptilians as beast like

  • The Book Of Ezekiel. Ezekiel saw a "wheels within wheels". Which accurately describes the Searl Electrostatic-Generator, and the flight frame, slender-disc, that houses it.

  • The book of Genesis also talks about the Nephilim, who were beings from the stars and heavens and who were giants that cross-bred w/ human women because they "were beautiful". Google Nephilim and Bible...

  • I think there is evidence but like they say It could be a cover up. Why the secret? Maybe the government has made a deal with them in exchange for technology. No telling what someone would do for this technology and Maybe the government is as surprised as we are but to say that their is no beings out in space is stupidity. Even when we explore the ocean which we haven't even begone to explore all of we find new species all the time. Just think about it!

  • Having lack of belief in life in space is not stupidity; rather, it's simply having no belief in UFO. I don't belief in UFO for the same exact reason I don't believe in god; lack of evidence. You have every right to believe that there is life in space. But don't dismiss other people's opinions as stupid, especially when there's no substantial amount of evidence to back up your statement.

  • There is evidence. just look at the NASA video's that show UFO's. Look at all the airplanes that see UFO's fighter pilots etc.You must be speaking of first hand evidence. There was also UFO's over Washington many years ago. MANY people has seen this. So, I am not sure of what evidence you are speaking of. I guess you are speaking of first hand and stupidity is a closed mind! No room to learn.

  • I want real evidence.I want to see the ship with my eyes,I want to touch it,I want to see the alien bodies and touch them with my hand.THEN I WILL BELIEVE.

  • Yeah...I can see you need to put an alien finger in your fucking asshole so you can scream "I feel it...awnnn...yeah I believe now!". That's how you believe in things?? So you've never been in Irak so you don't believe there's a war right now? you have some retarded logic...

  • that went to galanoth9

  • theres more evidence to say they do exist than to say they dont and if were being truely scientific then thats enough to be about 85-95% sure they do.show me the evidence that says they dont exist.show me the evidence that says god does

  • Simply logic should tell you that they do exist. But if you want proof, go to James Gilliland's Ranch in Washington State near Mt. Adams and stay there on a clear night and you WILL see them. In fact you can start by seeing the vid here on YouTube under Gilliland ranch and go from there.

  • Yes Michael Shermer is an asshole just for the sake of being an asshole. He could reason better, without that Bush-like smirk every time he says anything. If we've learned anything from Bush's smirks, he knew what he was saying was lies and exaggerations. Shermer is no different.

  • Yes we have been visited by others.

  • Ditto on the Shermer comment.

    Google Alien Casebook for the recent LKL program from last night 11/9 and the National Press Conference scheduled for Monday 11/12/07.

  • nothing wrong with being a skeptic.however that michael sharmer is an asshole,just plain and simple.

  • I agree completely. Michael Shermer is perhaps the biggest asshole the media ever took seriously. He has no credentials in any of the fields he criticizes and yet the media believes he is an expert in them anyway.

  • Come on people. A guy asks for proper evidence and you slam him.

  • People are bad observers?

    If that's the case then why are there juries in court???

  • skeptic ! his eyes was always looking down to answer question ! he is Loser !

    we call this Stupid Asshole!

    who can dare Stanton F.

    Shame...

  • skeptic is an asshole he is not an skeptic==he is a liar///we saw (5 people) more than a 1,000 lights in the sky, not explanation=UFO///NASA is going to Congress if they discover? hehehe

  • Stupid skepticist, he doesn't know squat. The gov hired him I bet

  • the skeptic should get kicked in the balls

  • Yes, there is some intelligent being that visits us that atleast I dont know what they are. Its stupid to say that there is no "UFO" when you looking on all the evidence.

    I think its unfair that they just have one skeptic against 4 believers.

  • These skeptics act like there so thorough in their understanding of ufos. It doesn't seem to dawn to them that aliens wouldn't be at the same time as earth history. He acts as if ufo technology has the same level as phases of American military development circa pre and post wwII. Totally limited narrow views.

  • that debunker has his head in the sand, must be from down under lol

  • sand? up his ass, he talks shit

  • Date of broadcasting? July 2007 or 04 august 2007?

  • Why did they drop security within 24 hr. Someone had to give the order to say " secret baloon program " I thought classifications ran 50 yrs. at a time. Why did they reveal their "most secret program so fast!

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