SVG Video Demo

[Kelarre653]

That's impressive!

[arkniiz]

ah....

[hjones1]

Communism?? What's Obama got to do with this?

[Edel99]

Flash will eventually die; that much is clear. The only use for Flash I see will be for making animated penis jokes on 'newgrounds'...lol

Now that MS is embracing web standards they will simply make better tools with those standards in mind! And Adobe will be back in the 'designer spectrum'!

[GoldRainGirl]

I saw the future, silverlight was a joke and flash was remembered as a dead protection racketeer whose entire thing crumbled with his death...

^^

[nantocsem]

I hope svg will kill the whole Silverlight project. Flash is a thing I can live with on linux, but sad to see sites choosing silverlight 3, which I can't even play with moonlight plugin :(

[monstercameron]

sick

[hdzsound]

open source is takin over the web

[WistfulGeek]

Really nice! The Web is advancing!

[nazerlubay]

if svg could work like silverlight, flash or any then whats the sense of studying silverlight? im kind a confuse about this silverlight, flash or svg thing... can you tell me which one is better to work with?

[XeonLf]

There's not. These tags are just a way to make the web more open. Instead of locking it down for shitty products like Silverlight (hell, I'd rather use Flash than a product to help Microsoft hijack every market they deem fit). Instead of having to download three players to use Flash, Silverlight, or JavaFX, you can use things inherently built into HTML 5. This is a cool demonstration of how versatile it is, by integrating it with another cool feature of HTML, SVG.

[mayo705]

Flash is currently "standard", you got it working on any platform. SVG is the future, hopefully in couple of years it will be starting to become mainstream vector format.

[imroy264]

Flash is not available on "any" platform. I think it's just Windows, Mac, and Linux on x86. Mac on PPC is probably supported too, but that is sure to end soon if hasn't already.

Adobe is clearly having trouble porting Flash to other platforms. They don't even have an x86-64 version yet, and all the netbook makers are on their backs about an ARM port. In the mean time, I see Iceweasel on Debian (a.k.a Firefox) is available for a dozen archs. I'd rather code to HTML5/SVG than proprietary crap.

[mayo705]

I would rather see also HTML 5 & SVG fully widespread but for that it will take years. Flash 9.4 is alreeady working on ARM processors but not with GPU acceleration (coming in 10.1 version next year). I don't know about 64bit version for Windows but there is already 64 bit port for Linux. But to be honest i don't want either Adobe Flash or Microsoft oligopolies on my PC, netbook or smartbook to be present as main alternative in five years time.

[diegoedv]

I hope this will end up replacing Flash, and YouTube and others will adopt it.

[infinitelink]

To the guys who aren't getting the point of this (those saying OSS is communism, and that Flash for linux is awful, and etc.), this isn't about Flash or communism, nor are you getting the point of this demonstration: the thing being demonstrated in this video is the use of pure standards from the World Wide Web Consortium (the body charged with making the HTML standards that your browser is supposed to follow); with HTML5 and SVG, it eliminates the need for propriety stuff from MS and adobe.

[trickyD1ck]

OSS is a back door to communism. Have you heard that cuban government decided to switch to linux recently? Russia and Venezuela probably to follow. I don't mind paying for things that are good and hence for the technological progress. There are industry-standard Microsoft Silverlight and Adobe Flash, why need this SVG crap?

[longcatislooong]

"Industry standard" if you have $millions to pay for a licence to use someone else's standards.

[trickyD1ck]

if it works, if you customers are happy with it, when you make $millions*2 out of it then why not pay for it? by the way if i am a silverlight developer, do i need to pay for a silverlight licence or something? from the point of view of the customer this is irrelevant, since silverlight and flash are free.

[jefNxueEPICFAIL]

Wait. I'm confused. Why do you hate freedom so much?

[trickyD1ck]

what does this have to do with freedom? no business model is more free than the other with freedom defined as absense of coercion. noone makes you use flash or some other technology at the gunpoint, this is all voluntary cooperation. so i have no porblem with someone arguing that well, this SVG thing will make our company millions as opposed to flash. Say our ROI will be higher with SVG. But to appeal to some "freedom" emotions to advance OSS as a religious cause is not ok.

[int3rl0per]

Oh, but it's not. Software freedom means that the software in question isn't covered by patents, where people wishing to write, say, their own flash player aren't going to be sued to hell for doing so. Software freedom means you have the right to use that software in any way you deem fit, without a company like Microsoft telling you that you can only run the app on a Dell-brand computer, with it being the only application that implements some widely used standard. It's about not being forced.

[trickyD1ck]

this is not freedom, this is just other distribution of property rights. it is just not inherently better than any other arrangement. yes, it may be economically more reasonable under some conditions, but less so under others. No reason to strive for it for its own sake.

[XeonLf]

Your argument about Open Source makes no sense though. Just because, coincidentally, Russia, and a few other communist countries adopted some Open Source technology because it's easier (not to mention legal, and can save you billions of dollars) to customize and install to your liking, you think it's only software that a communist would use? Please explain if I have this wrong.

[jonah1976]

This is shitty. You FOSS assholes are impressed with anything free.

[jefNxueEPICFAIL]

Why do you hate freedom? Terrorist!

[wilbal1087]

this is really cool, esp that its just HTML/Javascript and SVG!

this in combination with the javascript engines that are coming will be awesome

[Edward109]

I hope this will replace flash. On a Mac, flash is nothing but a resource hog.

[circular05]

Sure, this and JavaScript. The nice thing is, the infrastructure is open/transparent, so a lot of work can be done to make resource usage more efficient on a per-platform basis.

[cyborgtroy]

Yeah, Flash for Linux is pretty horrible. I think they've tried too hard to make it compatible, and it's really killing the performance.

I can't even watch fullscreen videos in Flash...

[DaVince21]

It's slow, but it should work in the Flash 10 Linux binaries by now, actually.

[peziak]

This is great another step forward for true interface design and standards based designers. I think the faster we ween ourselves off our dependence on flash the better for our different types of end users.

[Lam1ngton]

Well it is a demo of web-based stuff... And you can do this on the desktop...

[WhyILoveChicago]

very cool indeed! it's exciting to think that the future of web-design can actually use video technology like this. sadly, i believe it's years away as we continue to struggle with browser compatibility issues in addition to connection speeds. maybe in the next 3-5 years these things will start to iron themselves out!

[TweenkPL]

Or people who want to make something amazing like this will start thinking, "to hell with IE, anyone can download Firefox or Opera, so I'll just require that".

[mikji]

sweet

[NetoSilveira]

Using just standarts? Amazing! Great great job.

[CerebralGump]

Yes, a nice little demonstration that shows people we don't need patent encumbered closed software like Silverlight or the still patent encumbered and poisonous Moonlight.

[doublecnz]

It looks slow because of the frame rate capture of the screencasting software. It works fine on my hardware.

Technically it is working on the desktop. It's running client side on the browser. The videos can be hosted locally or streamed.

[Swatinem]

very nice!

[aneglus666]

really hot !