Henry Ford

[Santana6969able]

henry ford was a good inventer

[tRUE03262010lOVE]

was he the only son??

[shilltheshillXXX]

´The whole story is that he Fas...I mean Capitalist who cashed in on the profits of building for the usa and nazis. He also hated jews as much as Hitler... Ford: the true nazi mobile...

[shilltheshillXXX]

@shilltheshillXXX ,,,and Hitler was brilliant, just like Ford, until he showed his "flaws" by causing death and destruction. LOL

[chazmeistro]

Henry Ford was a fascist, anti-Semite and war profiteer. Scum of the worst kind.

[eastariel]

"The Secret" is an adorable little film. It reminds me of a Dr. Seuss movie, a "how to write letters to Santa Claus" kindergarten book with pictures.

As we get older, however, we still believe in Santa Claus -- but at a deeper level.

God helps our wishes to come true. The process is enormously complex. But a simple thank-you God is always a wise choice.

I had fun watching "The Secret," but I did feel a little disappointed over their misunderstanding of the Great Henry Ford.

[eastariel]

I treasure my Ford Windstar van. I bought it for its five-star safety rating (since I'm a Mom), and OMG, did it earn those stars! It helped to prevent an accident that would have been so horrific -- if my Ford van and camping trailer hadn't leaped so beautifully onto the shoulder -- that a good many people would have certainly died, including my loved ones. Instead, the tractor-trailer + jumbo pickup head-on collision didn't happen.

Where's Henry Ford when we need him? America needs jobs!

[krzych7]

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[roelke77]

well there was once a lawsuit against henry ford cause of his antiseministic thoughts, he admitted he hated jews.

Dont forget that henry ford had ties with the mob too, gangsters watching the factory personell , and convincing them with force to not join the union

[mansformer]

Wow guys get it straight. Henry Ford didnt invent the automobile. It was Karl Benz. Henry just improved it.

[frescoy]

Yes - there is a video on youtube with Ford, edison and Firestone. It has an audio trcak with each of them talking

[Bickaa8012]

Did Ford ever do a radio interview or record his voice onto any audio device?

[stepheng1483]

I admire Henry Ford for his realisation of the Jewish problem (subversion, usury, monpolies of our media, banking, politics etc.).

[Mafiososupersikwitit]

The first cars invented by Henry Ford were made out of marijuana and wheat and the oil used to run the car was made from marijuana(hemp) too.

[canine2]

Hi. I'd never heard of the first Fords being made out of hemp, but I had heard of some English Fords (experimental) in the 30's, 40's or 50's being made out of hemp. Very interesting!! They promoted the material by having someone from Ford pound on the car with a sledge hammer, and it supposedly wouldn't leave a dent. There may be a youtube vid on it, in fact.

[Mafiososupersikwitit]

Hi. Yea there is a video it's called Henry Ford and Rudolf Diesel against Petroleum. He was an American, he was for marijuana(hemp) and against the oil companies and dupoint(hitler)

[canine2]

Let's see...he was for the "annihilation" of Jews and his public statements were "atrocities" (all your words) , but no, you weren't at ALL calling him evil.

The word is "implication".

And what DIDN'T I acknowledge? I said that Ford's Dearborn Indep. statements were anti-semetic and a flaw of his. What more can I say?

The reason you won't, after 3 requests, tell me what the just punishment for his "atrocities" should be is because you know how foolish and UNjust it would sound.

[mistakemate]

Check out the rare Henry Ford interview on mycomeup com

[canine2]

Yes wang...and I've noticed something: the more you post, the more I seem to like Henry Ford.

[Sh0nin]

You've read many books on Henry Ford, then you know he inspired Adolf Hitler. How does inadvertently causing the Holocaust effect your opinion of the man? Surely you aren't indifferent to one of the greatest tragedies of the modern world, are you?

[canine2]

Ford didn't invent the car...So what...the Beatles didn't invent rock and roll.

[sushivie]

his birthday is the same day as mine birthday!!!!!

[canine2]

Really? Cool!! Hey, you could bake yourself like a Model T shaped Birthday Cake! (and make the frosting whatever color you want, so long as it's BLACK!) :)

[Sh0nin]

btw You might be interested to know that Ford never said the "so long as it's black" catchphrase. Black Fords actually weren't available until 1910, before they were blue, green and red.

[canine2]

Hi. You may be right about the paint...they used only black on the assembly line, tho, because black dried faster than other paints.

Hitler had many inspirations, none of which (or whom) were responsible for Hitler's atrocities. The people who flunked him out of art school weren't to blame for his rise to power.

The foundation of your argument is called "guilt by association" and it's not legally or ethically plausible in my country (USA), but of course, I can't speak for your country.

[Sh0nin]

Could be.

Not really. His two major inspirations were Ford and Nietzsche.

I was aiming for more of a "guilt by continued association with coincidentally coinciding views and goals that serendipitously happened to be fulfilled by the second party without the first's condemnation after-the-fact". As we both know logic has very little to do with your American law system ( case in point O.J.), which is where my argument is coming from.

[canine2]

Well, I'll agree that there are drawbacks in American law. Still, it is not yet illegal here to dislike people or groups of people, tho many would like to change that, I'm sure.

Henry Ford was great, not wonderful...there's a difference. There are many people in history who fit this description. He did, however, consider himself a pacifist, and did not condone violence, so he probably saw very little connection between himself and Hitler.

[Sh0nin]

It isn't illegal to dislike certain groups, but actions you may take against them caused by that dislike certainly is in many cases, the only difference this being a question of morality and integrity, so you would agree it's reasonable to expand on those acts punishable by law with the same basic principle in mind.

He was a pacifist for reasons of profit, so the question becomes whether he would consider the annihilation and oppression of Jews a worthy investment. Evidence indicates yes.

[canine2]

Hi. Sorry shonin, but you're really extrapolating here...what evidence would indicate that Ford thought genocide was a worthy investment? What you're saying is that expressing a public dislike for a certain group is the same as murder. Over here, many Democrats hate Republicans and vice-versa, but NOBODY interprets that to mean they want each other dead.

Jews are rightfully traumatized by the holocaust, but putting every anti-semite on par with Hitler is convoluted logic.

[Sh0nin]

His rabid hatred of the Jews is very well known, mostly due to his propaganda against them. He invested hundreds of thousands of dollars conducting an anti-semetic tirade for 91 consecutive weeks for 7 years with his newspaper The Dearborn Independent, what makes you think he would disapprove of their slaughter at no cost to him? Actually go read a couple Dearborn articles online and it'll become clear to you that he wanted them annihilated.

[canine2]

I'm not sure I understand...why is it so important that I be converted to your anti-Ford club? I've never been a person who admired Ford's politics, but a person who admired his vision, genius and humble beginnings. I only address some of the outrageous criticism against him because it tries to reduce a profoundly important, complex person to a simplistic personality trait. BTW I DON'T think you're being outrageous.

[Sh0nin]

Anti-ford club? It's just a recognition of reality. If all it takes is a savvy business man to impress you, that's okay, but I think the man's psychopathy constrains him from being great. I suppose its just whether you want to buy into the iconography of Ford.

[canine2]

I've posted some of this before, sorry if you've seen it. Henry Ford hired blacks in 1912 when NOBODY else in Detroit would, AND paid them the same as whites. Not exactly hateful, but is that the only thing I think of when I think of Ford? No, just 1 of his many sides.

Menachim Begin helped murder 91 people in a hotel bombing. Is that the defining character of Begin? Some say yes, but he also signed a treaty w/Egypt that saved lives. It's too simplistic to reduce a person to only their flaws.

[Sh0nin]

When did I say I was trying to reduce him to his flaws? I'm focusing on his flaws and you come back with "but he did this and this and this". That's all well and fine, but it's simply a distraction from the focal point of the discussion and an excuse to avoid admitting a man's atrocities.

[canine2]

No, you didn't SAY you were reducing him to his flaws, you just DID it. Nobody would SAY they were doing that.

OK, Ford committed "atrocities"...so what would you do to him, hypothetically, were he still alive? Arrest and convict him of genocide? Imprison him? Execute him? All for publishing a newspaper?

If your answer is YES, then CONGRATULATIONS, you have more in common w/ Hitler than you realize. No newspaper was EVER convicted of "atrocities" for expressing opinions. ('cept by Nazis)

[Sh0nin]

You're a bit of an idiot aren't you? I specifically said that you were trying to create a distraction to avoid acknowledging a point and you just exasperated it with your next comment. Making excuses doesn't constitute a discussion because it doesn't contribute to the proceeding. That's why if the focus (for now) is flaws it needs to continue until it is resolved without some jackass interjecting with things about another subject ( black jobs, industry innovation) or else nothing is ever solved.

[canine2]

Again, what punishment would fit Ford' "atrocities" were he alive today?

[Sh0nin]

What's the point in deliberating a punishment when you haven't even acknowledged anything? You're really getting tiresome.

[canine2]

Tiresome is right. This debate's no longer about Henry Ford...

The focus of your responses seems to be me "acknowledging" Henry Ford was one of the most evil men of the 20th century (as if that's a FACT and not an opinion), then once I say that, we can have a discussion. But THEN what do we discuss?? The point of contention will have been resolved!!! This is a REALLY BASIC premise of debate.

But AGAIN, if you're BRAVE enough, tell me: What's the right punishment for the evil Henry Ford??

[Sh0nin]

For fuck's sake... Alright, let's slow this down a little for you. The only one who ever said Ford was evil was you, when you attributed the sentence to me. Go back and you'll see that I never said that. I was discussing a specific set of wrongdoings of the man, when you accused me of unfairly defining the man by only his faults, which I never said I was doing. Then I tried to explain that you never acknowledged anything, which you promptly ignored.

Red Herrings and stupidity. I've had enough.

[optionshiftclick]

"Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black." It's a quote from "My Life and Work" by Henry Ford.IMHO best american book.You should read it,man.

[canine2]

Ford didn't like jews, but he was no Nazi. There is a movement out there to reinvent the world, including it's history, and this involves portraying people like Christopher Columbus as a monster and people like Henry Ford as a Nazi. The goal of this movement is to imply that having politically incorrect views is tantamount to being a fascist. Now, the morons of the world are easily swayed by this tactic because, well...they're morons.THE REST OF US REALIZE THE TRUTH IS MORE COMPLICATED.

[wangpangu]

The thing about Henry Ford is that because he owned a newspaper, The Freborn Independent, we can see very clearly what his ideas were; and they were irrationally anti-semitic. He was friends with Wagner's son, was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle (complete with little swastikas) and Hitler kept a photo of him on his wall. None of this makes him a nazi per se but it makes me not like him much and wonder why you want to rewrite history.

[canine2]

So, I want to "rewrite history"...hmmm...for generations, everyone in the US grew up learning Ford was a great industrialist and a brilliant inventor, then, in the recent past, a few people take one of the lessor facts about Ford and make it the main focus of his life...yet I'M the one who's rewriting history, not YOU....

Saying Ford was first and foremost an anti-semite is like saying FDR was first and foremost a cripple.

[wangpangu]

So you admit he was an anti-semite.

That, at least, is a start. It matters to me A LOT that he hated a certain group of people so much he would be friends with those who would seek their extermination. Ford didn't invent the motor car and he didn't invent mass-production; one creative thing he did do was start a rabidly anti-semitic newspaper (the DEARBORN Independent- I made a mistake before, one you didn't spot).

Still, as I say, it's nice you admit Ford was a nasty bigot.

[canine2]

I've ALWAYS said Ford was an anti-semite, because it's the TRUTH.

Bigot is a broader term. He hired blacks in 1912 when nobody else would AND paid them the same as whites AND wanted them to work along whites in the same jobs.

Ford's biases against or for one ethnic group or another have no impact on me. I could care less.

I didn't miss your mistake, I just figured you never actually read any books on Ford like I have. (I refer to the publ. on other Ford-critical youtube posts.)

[wangpangu]

Well fuck me, there's a Henry Ford fan club.

If you had ever suffered prejudice such as that which Ford advocated you would not be so ambivilent. You hit the nail on the head when you say that Ford's biases have no impact on your clear admiration of the man- I cannot admire or respect a person who was so filled with bile and bigotry as to support those who sought the extermination of an entire race of people. You and I are very different in that respect and perhaps we should leave it there.

[moefuzzz]

Henry Ford lost control of his Germany Holdings in the mid to late 30's The Nazi party fired any and all Jews that were working for Ford/Germany and installed Nazi Sympathizers to Run The Companies.

Ford Forced the regime to reinstate many former Jewish employees in the late 30's only to loose total control prior to WW1. Henry Ford was not a fascist or against Jews. He hired and employed many only to have the Nazi Party seize control and dismantle the structure of Ford/Germany.

[VettesAre4FAGGOTS]

How ironic is it that the Banks that Financed WW I & II are the recipients of $700 Billion in bailouts? - August Belmont & Co - J. & W. Seligman & Co - Kuhn, Loeb & Co [Warburg] How Ironic? - Lehman Brothers - Goldman, Sachs & Co - James Speyer & Co - Lazard Freres The Rothchilds etc Financed all sides of the wars for huge profits. "The International Jew" that Henry Ford spoke out against are those people who Fianaced War. Ford wasn't speaking against the Jewish People or their religion.

[lifebirthblooddoom]

Isn't it Ironic you are an idiot.

Ford was a known rabid anti-semite from those who knew him personally.

The book the international jew is rabidly ant-semitic. It's not idiotic to say Ford and Hitler was friends,they met several times hitler quoted him many times in mein kampf and ford was a supporter of hitler and was honored by hitlers award.All these jewish conspiracy theories thrown around the internet have no facts behind them and were simply invented in the 1880's.

[lifebirthblooddoom]

Ford was a fascist he admired adolf hitler they met several times. Hitler quoted Henry Ford many times in Mein Kamp,read it your fucking self if you don't believe me. Hitler was quoted as wishing he could send storm troopers to help henry ford win the election when he ran for president.

[cheezytv]

Henry Ford was a member of Freemasonry Palestine Lodge #357, Detroit, MI - trust no one. His mother's maiden name, is classified. Since then, they breeded down with Firestone family. trust no one.

[mko51ss]

Alot of people were ignorant about Hitler Before 1939. Later Ford made alot of Airplanes tanks jeeps, etc to help defeat Hitler. So tell the whole story please.

[lifebirthblooddoom]

Your being stupid, it was always hitler's full intention to exterminate the jewish race one way or the other he has said it from day one. The german people knew the holocaust was happening.

Your wrong on Ford he was always against going to war with germany,even when pearl harbor was attacked he visited roosevelt to advise him against declaring war on germany.

And For some strange reason Ford's son ran most of the bussiness during those wartime years isn't that strange.

[fordsgoingbroke]

I didn't know that he was Hitlers friend Its covered up I think and not talked about. I guess its a shameful thing. Wonder what old American GI,s would think of that if they knew he helped the Nazis.This isn't this taught in school history I guess because its so shamefull?

[VettesAre4FAGGOTS]

Fordsgoingbroke is as ignorant of the rumors of Henry Ford as they come. It's pretty idiotic to say that Hitler and Ford were Friends. Read YOUR history books instead of making stupid statements and supporting age old rumors. You are as much a part of the mis-information society today as those who started the rumors that Ford was a Nazi sympathizer or that he hated Jews. Mis-information, rumors and lies have allowed the Ford name to be slandered for many generations.

[persianlions]

Its in the history books for any one to read.Your just pissed off at not being able to hide this shame under the table Its common information, Its out in the open and its a truth.

[dicarlo57]

What history books? do you believe everything you read? The only "human shame" is that of the media controlling jews who are constantly in search of a scapegoat. Your "common information" is nothing more than another jewish lie.

[Ford4Lyfe7]

OH SHIT I rated your comment wrong FUCK, I wanna take the thumbs down back ugh...... I totally agree with this comment...

[canine2]

You are correct in your assessment of Henry Ford. The people who put him down usually aren't interested in Henry Ford, just one aspect of his personality. I doubt they've read much about him outside of his involvement with the Dearborn Independent.

BTW, do you know who started the Cadillac car company? HENRY FORD!!! See, there's alot more to Ford than the sensationalist, agenda driven people will ever know.

[henryforddoesntrule]

Henry Ford was a nazi sympathizer check your history. Hitler gave him the highest honor while he helped make Hitlers production lines a success thereby ultimately extending the war and causing more GI,s to die. Check out the UTUBE site that deals with Ford and Nazism couldn't believe it.

[PRZYOJSKI]

I bet you think Willow Run was also manufacturing airplanes for Germany (-: