*YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, IDA, ISME, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Small Firms Association, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
Absolute laff these groups all funded by the political cartells in Ireland. These people are being paid unreal amounted of money to hand out leaflets and postering all by the tax payer. All the no side at least are funded by volunteers. The young people of Iireland cannot br bought with this rubbish. Save our future vote no.
Project Indect (EU funded project to monitor You-tube,Facebook,blogs,PC's etc)
EGF (the EUs own Para-military)
Sitcen (the EUs own secret service)
Europol (EU cops granted immunity from criminal prosecution).
Germanys LEADING EXPERT ON THE LISBON TREATY is Professor Schachtschneider of Nurenberg University :
Without an Irish No, all people in Europe face exploitation, war and injustice. The Irish have the opportunity to save human dignity in Europe. (Irish Times)
r u fucking crazy Vote No if u dont want to loss control of all your irish laws and powers the EU comission will be your new government and will deside most of your laws European police will be allowed to walk the streets of dublin and have powers of arrest dont be fooled by these stupid power grabbing adverts Vote NO to save our freedoms
The UN-ELECTED EU commission are adamant that Turkey joins the EU. Think about the implications !
Under Lisbon,voting rights depend on a country's population. Would you be happy with TURKEY having 20 TIMES THE VOTING RIGHTS OF IRELAND ?
Most Europeans also want to keep their own constitutions and parliamentary democracies,health systems,legal systems,school systems,own police and military !
Ireland PLEASE say NO again to the 2nd Lisbon PUTSCH attempt ! For yourselves,your children and ours.
@ 4:00 'breaking us off the continental shelf and shoving us out into the atlantic ocean' LOL - that's all I've ever wanted! If we were as far away from Europe as possible. Put us out beside Iceland please! - our warm fires and traditional Irish dancing and music in the Winter, and not the coal and steel community the EU is based on!
Junior minister McSock was easily the most coherent speaker on the 'Yes' side in last year's referendum campaign. I hope we'll hear more from him between now and October 2nd. For example, I think he'd be the ideal person to put the 'guarantees' secured by the government into context. Perhaps he could also explain how last year's 'No' vote led directly to the economic recession, the swine flu epidemic, and the bad weather this summer?
Alert: Euro-federalists are already planning to subvert Irish Referendum results; please Google "National Platform" for latest press release and information.
JE38: I apologise - this comment program has completely mangled the order of my responses to your responses. We should just post random sentences throughout the section for fun.
Better yet, we could do English to Japanese to English automated translations of Lisbon Treaty sections.
"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly - All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised in some way."
- V.Giscard D'Estaing
"Proposal that there is not the courage that it, we show to them directly. It is guided as the public opinion makes a/the foster child, without knowing. Although it is in early, new text entirely more proposal, is hidden and what or it is camouflage and be do"
"The Council shall, acting unanimously in accordance with a special legislative procedure and after consulting the European Parliament and the Economic and Social Committee, adopt provisions for the harmonisation of legislation concerning turnover taxes, excise duties and other forms of indirect taxation to the extent that such harmonisation is necessary to ensure the establishment and the functioning of the internal market and to avoid distortion of competition."
And I adopt the preparation for that that avoids the distortion of the function and competition of the harmony and internal market of the legislation with the form and relation other than the tax, commodity tax duty and also indirect taxation of the turn as it is necessary although the harmony like that plays economy/society committee with European Parliament unanimously after the consulting in accordance with the procedure of a council special legislation clause 113 does establishment certainly
the lisbon treaty is just a reworded atempt at getting the neace treaty passed, they already tryed to pass this bull shit and we already told u to fuck right offf, we ment it then and we mean it now stuck your new world order away to fuck!!!
the no vote is one of intelegence!!!
video's like this just show what kind of an audience your trying to convince, i just hope the rest of ireland is a bit smarter than this, because if this treaty passes were all in a world of shit!
And it's very, very important to keep repeating that they are irrational in the coming days, in the absence of any argument rooted in the Treaty itself! ;-D
Sales of which have increaed by 11% in the USA in the last quarter. This is because they cannot afford Snork, as they failed to ratify the Lisbon Treaty.
- the fact that people will actually vote for a parliament and that the parliament will gain control over the Commission is a significant improvement for the democracy.
- the actual share of power is : too much technocracy, no citizens' voice. And the rest of the world can't hear EU voice, which means nobody can hear a strong, heavy choice for peace, democracy and Human Rights (look at the Charter of Fundamental Rights).
- and the fact that the control over the Commission isn't actually control will be our little secret! Shhhhh!
- Indeed, the fact of the matter is: A strong heavy choice for peace, democracy, and human rights needs increased militarisation, less uppity voting stuff, and someone more remote defining what being human is. And heavily, with more voice and choice, by reducing it.
1. See below what I've found about the control of the Parliament over the Commission...
2. Europe's power is a "soft-power", and it needs a diplomacy to be heard.
3. The Charter of Fundamental Rights and the European Convention of Human Rights give two very good definition of what being human is, and the rights it gives you. Unfortunately, both need the Lisbon treaty to be applied to the EU.
That's it, that's it exactly: don't actually discuss any of the specific issues raised that voters might not like - stick to generalisations. You'll go a long way, you will. A word to the wise: don't bother mentioning that the Irish Constitution or Human rights court at Strasbourg already have such competences, though.
Or the equally delectible English wartime delicacy "Snork", which was made from whalemeat. They still eat this in English schools. And the stockpile they take it from actually dates from WWII.
- the commission proposes the law. it's not responsible for it. And nobody cares about the nationality of the commissioners. What is important is their functions... For the moment, there are 27 commissioners, ie. 27 different distinct functions. It doesn't work at all because you can't find 27 specific fields of policies.
The fact that making the vast majority of law for 500 million people, and yet not actually being considered responsible for it, is indeed the kind of progressive, forward doublethinking we need to advance;
Nationality is irrelevant - pay no heed to rabble-rousers like Garett FitzGerald who say differently.
27 policy areas is luuuuudicrously large for an EU which will now have a say in every area of 500 milion lives. Has any of the nay-saying loo-lahs tried to divide 27 into 500? it doesn't go!
Thank you sir, or madam. And may I take this time to ask for your first preference at the next election; which incidentally, has nothing to do with my face being plastered all over the place on posters with "Yes to Lisbon" written in miniscule letters. I knew your father well.
Well done Ireland for voting yes! I cant believe exit polls place the yes on 65%!!!
tiger1770 2 years ago
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*NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
*YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, IDA, ISME, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Small Firms Association, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
Who you going to trust?
urfadder 2 years ago
NO TO LISBON
baconified 2 years ago
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If Europe is so kind to the people and hold the peoples interest a heart, why do you threat us with a bleak future?
The Irish peoples future should always be bright, no matter what the outcome of this referendum is.
Our Government have created a contradiction.
Far to many uncertainties reside within the Lisbon treaty.
Our Government can not be trusted, you know this.
Thrust your heart, in your heart lies those who fought and died for Irish Freedom.
I am Voting NO
RCIRL 2 years ago
Absolute laff these groups all funded by the political cartells in Ireland. These people are being paid unreal amounted of money to hand out leaflets and postering all by the tax payer. All the no side at least are funded by volunteers. The young people of Iireland cannot br bought with this rubbish. Save our future vote no.
francieszetecs 2 years ago
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Google :
Project Indect (EU funded project to monitor You-tube,Facebook,blogs,PC's etc)
EGF (the EUs own Para-military)
Sitcen (the EUs own secret service)
Europol (EU cops granted immunity from criminal prosecution).
Germanys LEADING EXPERT ON THE LISBON TREATY is Professor Schachtschneider of Nurenberg University :
Without an Irish No, all people in Europe face exploitation, war and injustice. The Irish have the opportunity to save human dignity in Europe. (Irish Times)
Vote NO !
Spenner56 2 years ago
r u fucking crazy Vote No if u dont want to loss control of all your irish laws and powers the EU comission will be your new government and will deside most of your laws European police will be allowed to walk the streets of dublin and have powers of arrest dont be fooled by these stupid power grabbing adverts Vote NO to save our freedoms
charlieiscool1000 2 years ago
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The UN-ELECTED EU commission are adamant that Turkey joins the EU. Think about the implications !
Under Lisbon,voting rights depend on a country's population. Would you be happy with TURKEY having 20 TIMES THE VOTING RIGHTS OF IRELAND ?
Most Europeans also want to keep their own constitutions and parliamentary democracies,health systems,legal systems,school systems,own police and military !
Ireland PLEASE say NO again to the 2nd Lisbon PUTSCH attempt ! For yourselves,your children and ours.
Spenner56 2 years ago
@ 4:00 'breaking us off the continental shelf and shoving us out into the atlantic ocean' LOL - that's all I've ever wanted! If we were as far away from Europe as possible. Put us out beside Iceland please! - our warm fires and traditional Irish dancing and music in the Winter, and not the coal and steel community the EU is based on!
squidcreek 2 years ago
McSock for MEP!!
MarkyMarkDCU 2 years ago
Junior minister McSock was easily the most coherent speaker on the 'Yes' side in last year's referendum campaign. I hope we'll hear more from him between now and October 2nd. For example, I think he'd be the ideal person to put the 'guarantees' secured by the government into context. Perhaps he could also explain how last year's 'No' vote led directly to the economic recession, the swine flu epidemic, and the bad weather this summer?
Thoreau89 2 years ago
I haven't a notion of voting YES to Lisbon!
ANTONELIUSMCGREGOR 2 years ago
What do these Euro Fascists not understand about the word NO.
They will be back....... Vote NO again!
No to losing our Tricolour and Identity.
No to a totalitarian Euro dictatorship
No to RFID Identity cards and Chip Implants.
No to The scrapping of Irish Trade Unions.
No to A Euro controlled police state.
No to The scrapping of the Irish Constitution
No to Euro Constitution
No to 666 and the New World Order.
StatueSmasher 3 years ago
I voted and campaigned for a yes vote, but this video is great. Exactly the problems of the yes campaign.
MPidge 3 years ago 2
If the EU is democratic it will respect the Irish vote and the Lisbon Treaty (constitution) has to be ratified by all member states will die.
The Irish have said no but the EU will ignore it's own rules and in it's typically undemocratic rules will continue with the EU constitution.
rufushound 3 years ago
Alert: Euro-federalists are already planning to subvert Irish Referendum results; please Google "National Platform" for latest press release and information.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
Looks like a resounding NO to Lisbon...excellent....let the party begin!
CairoGang 3 years ago 3
No Ireland has grown under the EU Ireland is the wealthiest nation in the continent Do not destory it. Do not let NAZIs destory it.
zzxzqwq 3 years ago 2
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IRELAND PEOPLE!
DON'T GIVE UP YOUR LIBERTIES!
VOTE NO -for your Beloved Children!
VOTE NO -for the sake of your Beautiful Country!
VOTE NO -for the sake of the Whole World!
VOTE NO -for Messing Up the Plans of the New World Order.
IRELAND!
JUNE 12TH!
VOTE NO!
CairoGang 3 years ago
Watched it again - loved it again. Go, Ireland, beauty! Say No!
jessicamaybe 3 years ago
JE38: I apologise - this comment program has completely mangled the order of my responses to your responses. We should just post random sentences throughout the section for fun.
Better yet, we could do English to Japanese to English automated translations of Lisbon Treaty sections.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly - All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised in some way."
- V.Giscard D'Estaing
"Proposal that there is not the courage that it, we show to them directly. It is guided as the public opinion makes a/the foster child, without knowing. Although it is in early, new text entirely more proposal, is hidden and what or it is camouflage and be do"
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
Article 113
"The Council shall, acting unanimously in accordance with a special legislative procedure and after consulting the European Parliament and the Economic and Social Committee, adopt provisions for the harmonisation of legislation concerning turnover taxes, excise duties and other forms of indirect taxation to the extent that such harmonisation is necessary to ensure the establishment and the functioning of the internal market and to avoid distortion of competition."
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
And I adopt the preparation for that that avoids the distortion of the function and competition of the harmony and internal market of the legislation with the form and relation other than the tax, commodity tax duty and also indirect taxation of the turn as it is necessary although the harmony like that plays economy/society committee with European Parliament unanimously after the consulting in accordance with the procedure of a council special legislation clause 113 does establishment certainly
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
This is fantastic: we should give this program to the Referendum Commission.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
If it needs unanimity, i don't see the problem : the Irish finance minister will use his veto !
[And economic distorsion isn't such a great thing...]
JE38 3 years ago
Do you really think that V.G.E is opposed to this treaty ? It almost made it !
JE38 3 years ago
Nice video! I sincerely hope that the Irish will vote no. They are the only people that are being asked.
jessicamaybe 3 years ago
the lisbon treaty is just a reworded atempt at getting the neace treaty passed, they already tryed to pass this bull shit and we already told u to fuck right offf, we ment it then and we mean it now stuck your new world order away to fuck!!!
the no vote is one of intelegence!!!
video's like this just show what kind of an audience your trying to convince, i just hope the rest of ireland is a bit smarter than this, because if this treaty passes were all in a world of shit!
aatishoo 3 years ago
:-)
I think no-voters are kind of irrational.. it's not without a certain charm, but I'm not sure irrationality is the best guide in politics...
JE38 3 years ago
And it's very, very important to keep repeating that they are irrational in the coming days, in the absence of any argument rooted in the Treaty itself! ;-D
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
spam
CairoGang 3 years ago
Sales of which have increaed by 11% in the USA in the last quarter. This is because they cannot afford Snork, as they failed to ratify the Lisbon Treaty.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
"The Commission, as a body, shall be responsible to the European Parliament. In accordance
with Ar ticle 234 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, the European Parliament
may vote on a motion of censure of the Commission. If such a motion is carried, the members of the
Commission shall resign as a body and the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and
Security Policy shall resign from the duties that he carries out in the Commission."
JE38 3 years ago
Yes. Yes. If the commission are all serial killers, we can hope a majority will vote them out. Otherwise, business as usual. Woohoo!
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
have you ever heard about :
- sharing your power between ALL european citizens
- the exact role of a Commission Membe
- something called "solidarity" which means we now have to help eastern countries and share the pie ?
Vote YES.
JE38 3 years ago
Have you ever heard about:
- already sharing power as it is
- the Commission being responsible for 84% of all our laws
- something called "relevancy"?
No?
Great! Welcome to the "Yes" team!
VOTE YES! Because it sounds more positive than "No"!
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
- the fact that people will actually vote for a parliament and that the parliament will gain control over the Commission is a significant improvement for the democracy.
- the actual share of power is : too much technocracy, no citizens' voice. And the rest of the world can't hear EU voice, which means nobody can hear a strong, heavy choice for peace, democracy and Human Rights (look at the Charter of Fundamental Rights).
JE38 3 years ago
I'd choose Yes because it's a progress for Ireland and the EU.
JE38 3 years ago
I'm proud to be Irish, and I believe in Europe.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
- and the fact that the control over the Commission isn't actually control will be our little secret! Shhhhh!
- Indeed, the fact of the matter is: A strong heavy choice for peace, democracy, and human rights needs increased militarisation, less uppity voting stuff, and someone more remote defining what being human is. And heavily, with more voice and choice, by reducing it.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
1. See below what I've found about the control of the Parliament over the Commission...
2. Europe's power is a "soft-power", and it needs a diplomacy to be heard.
3. The Charter of Fundamental Rights and the European Convention of Human Rights give two very good definition of what being human is, and the rights it gives you. Unfortunately, both need the Lisbon treaty to be applied to the EU.
JE38 3 years ago
That's it, that's it exactly: don't actually discuss any of the specific issues raised that voters might not like - stick to generalisations. You'll go a long way, you will. A word to the wise: don't bother mentioning that the Irish Constitution or Human rights court at Strasbourg already have such competences, though.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
As you probably know, the EU institutions need the Lisbon Treaty to adhere to the Europe Council, ie. the Human rights court at Strasbourg.
And the Charter of Fundamental Rights is nothing like a gadget made of generalities.
JE38 3 years ago
spam
CairoGang 3 years ago
Or the equally delectible English wartime delicacy "Snork", which was made from whalemeat. They still eat this in English schools. And the stockpile they take it from actually dates from WWII.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
- the commission proposes the law. it's not responsible for it. And nobody cares about the nationality of the commissioners. What is important is their functions... For the moment, there are 27 commissioners, ie. 27 different distinct functions. It doesn't work at all because you can't find 27 specific fields of policies.
JE38 3 years ago
The fact that making the vast majority of law for 500 million people, and yet not actually being considered responsible for it, is indeed the kind of progressive, forward doublethinking we need to advance;
Nationality is irrelevant - pay no heed to rabble-rousers like Garett FitzGerald who say differently.
27 policy areas is luuuuudicrously large for an EU which will now have a say in every area of 500 milion lives. Has any of the nay-saying loo-lahs tried to divide 27 into 500? it doesn't go!
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
Socks are always right.
dodonoghue 3 years ago 2
Thank you sir, or madam. And may I take this time to ask for your first preference at the next election; which incidentally, has nothing to do with my face being plastered all over the place on posters with "Yes to Lisbon" written in miniscule letters. I knew your father well.
SockyMcSock 3 years ago
Im voting for the good guys! No Baddies for me.
Sock it to 'em! I can't let those terrorists intimidate me.
dodonoghue 3 years ago