I agree with hunt, it seems your problem is more with Compuware then Chrysler. I watched your video and I feel sorry that you've been through so many court and been denied and dismissed. Could you please enlighten me what exactly that you are suing for ?
I'm a contract engineer and have worked at the same client companies at other times. I had my own problems with Chrysler 9 years ago, they are not friendly to contractors but I believe your problem is with Compuware and not Chrysler, from what I can tell you worked at Chrysler but for Compuware,I have no experience with Compuware but I do know the contractor life is hard and dependent on reputation, if someone is gunning for you, it is hard to come back,good luck. What did you work on at DCX?
I've been an engineer for 34 years and have good referneces and still cannot find a job, I thought I had problems but yours are worse, good luck. It does not pay to be an engineer in this country,stay away from this line of work if you can do anything else.Become a lawyer,thats where the money can be made,they rig the laws against the common man.
I am sorry Kastanedowski, but principles are principles. This guy is a hero if he is telling the truth. He should write a screenplay and sell it to the major studios for a film. And yes only in a great country like America a man will fight for his principles for eleven year, even if he has to go homeless.
This is a very sad case. Bill I am sorry this has happened to you. I heard on the news Chrysler is thinking of filing bankruptcy. Hmm! What goes around comes around! Hang tight Bill God is still in control.
It's pretty sad when corporate America and the judicial system become bed partners...Makes me even more angry about corporate greed & power and how they have successfully bought the courts and the legislators. Thomas Jefferson once wrote, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." He also wrote "all tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Why, Bill, are you being silenced?
It looks like the only way to fight injustice since our government isn't there for you/us is go by way of "Shopping Wars" Keep the message viral. Best to you.
3 weeks ago my story went out to 405979 readers thru the care2 website, on my space 859 profile views and if you google corporate blacklisted engineer many websites that I am on show up, yahoo,ask,search also
the fight is getting bigger so PLS TELL ALL YOU FRIENDS TO WATCH MY VIDEO...THANKS BILL
yes I tried it 3 times once in DETROIT and twice in BOSTON, i even went to the one in boston in person no sucess the refered me to the nela national employment lawyers association and they wanted $250 before they woukd even me with me....$250 buys a lot of food and at the end of the hour they quoted they might not be able to help....$250 out the window..
I would never buy a Chrystler anyways. Never bought anything besides a Ford. You could try getting a job outside of your field. All these mexicans that have no right being here find jobs all the time.
Bill all I can say is don't pity yourself. There are worse things that what you are living through, after hearing this I will never buy a chrystler car, and I will advise other to do the same. As a future ME Thanks for the advice.
Well RIGHTS have never stopped Americans from going into anybody else's country , why should it stop anyone from coming here? At least they don't have bombs. And don't bribe the government and alter the elections, and put some leader in place.
To quote euvi85's words "All these mexicans that have no right being here find jobs all the time" and Bill you said you've had "no sucess" I am sure you can find a job that low Bill. The thing is no one WANTS to do these kind of jobs because it is very hard labor.
That type of job would be very hard on a man of your current age, and education for that matter, but if you really needed money there is always a way to live honorobly. Imagine some of those "mexicans that have no right being here" live and die doing very hard labor. Never asking for anything but for the U.S government not to deport them, and even under those conditions illegal immagrants think life in the U.S is better. than Mexico.
You may get better coverage if you show the evidence and records your refer to in your video. You may want to show the proof of your credentials, the proof that you were employed by these companies(pay stubs, parking passes, etc).
Unfortunatley, With the lack of evidence and source's you show in this video, I have trouble believing you. The economic situation with manufacturing is definitley a mess here, but nobody is going to take you serious without proof or evidence.
That is a crying shame here on this Beautiful Planet. But there are only about 6000 people who are in charge of this World. Once the other billions get together, we can throw them in jail as Isaiah 24:21-24 and Isaiah 23:17-18 talks of so we can have that big party of Isaiah 25. I wish I could do more than just quote words from 1000's of years ago.
this reminds me of a freelance photographer that tried to pursue a copyright infringement case on his own. i read most of his account, and the lesson is that the courts abhor people who represent themselves. they dismiss your cases because they are dismissive of you in general.
am i getting the idea you got unfair discrimanation at every interview when you moved back? (and why were you dismissed from that place when you were employed?)
Oh and post this on digg... Digg may not let it rise too the top but ask all of us to digg it! we will... Hopefully you will get some type of coverage!
WOOOOW!! This is amazing how things like this can happen. How ones hands can seemed to be so tightly tied, and helpless and will never be able to find justice within the court system! Sometimes justice doesnt always prevail and it's a shame!
I am currently studying to become a mechanical engineer. I have never heard of this type of thing happening especially here in US. There has to be some kind of justice for this type of behavior.
This really changed my opinion about Chrysler corporation.
The actions of these corporations is disturbing! I'm a freshman at New Mexico State University and I'm working to a degree in mechanical engineering, however the fact that these companies are willing to just blackball people is unscrupulous and unjust. I'm going to look into this case, If I find (to my own satisfaction) misconduct on behalf of these car companies than I'm changing my major to electrical engineering.
Not that it matters, Im going into business I just want a math education anyway
Well Mr. Butler appealed it to Michigan Court of Appeals, Michigan Supreme court and took it to Federal District Court in Detroit, Federal Court of Appeals in Cincinnati and Supreme Court of the United States in Washington D.C. all without a lawyer. They all said no in one form or another.
Ten years passed, Mr. Butler became homeless, and will continue to be. He contacted with countless media for posting his story but unsuccessfully.
I think that Chrysler should step up to the plate and justify the situation and give the Engineer what he wants.You took his means of survival by saying you had no idea who he was.Chrysler corporation is obviously not a company I would work for!!!
im so sorry ,, ill just pry for your justice,
rhome27lapuz 4 months ago
chrysler and compuware blacklists engineer...viewer count update....2,185,576 on many websites thanks for your support...
billbutler941 1 year ago
We have the power to blacklist as well.BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!!!!!!
leroysky96 1 year ago
I agree with hunt, it seems your problem is more with Compuware then Chrysler. I watched your video and I feel sorry that you've been through so many court and been denied and dismissed. Could you please enlighten me what exactly that you are suing for ?
amiesteroffie 1 year ago
I'm a contract engineer and have worked at the same client companies at other times. I had my own problems with Chrysler 9 years ago, they are not friendly to contractors but I believe your problem is with Compuware and not Chrysler, from what I can tell you worked at Chrysler but for Compuware,I have no experience with Compuware but I do know the contractor life is hard and dependent on reputation, if someone is gunning for you, it is hard to come back,good luck. What did you work on at DCX?
huntwds 2 years ago
I've been an engineer for 34 years and have good referneces and still cannot find a job, I thought I had problems but yours are worse, good luck. It does not pay to be an engineer in this country,stay away from this line of work if you can do anything else.Become a lawyer,thats where the money can be made,they rig the laws against the common man.
huntwds 2 years ago
im sorry, i know what u feel,
best wishes.
fumfulapenguin 2 years ago
The Lord Be with you Bill.....
84Kilroy 2 years ago
Hey Bill, is Michelle [Ireland]. I put that on facebook again ok!
shellierebel 2 years ago
@shellierebel thanks
billbutler941 2 years ago
WTF! is this what they so called.....justice for all for the land of the FREE!
Budd, God will make a way to ease your burden...Take care!
ekisekalametit 2 years ago 2
A world governed by corporations and justice to suit.
Keep on trucking buddy.
RegDCP 2 years ago
Go on line and have jobangels help you find some work. Maybe there is someone in that group that can assist you.
jobangels,com
teresanitopi 2 years ago
where are the news stations? where are all of the lawyers in this country? This is horrible !
Is there anyone out there that can help this man and stop the large corporations from doing things like this !
teresanitopi 2 years ago
Bill, you deserve justice in your favor. Please help Bill Butler win his case!
heartreachnataliek 2 years ago
im very sad to hear u man.i want u to utilise ur rest of ur life well man.
sureshv88 2 years ago
This makes me sadfaced.
LovieCakes 2 years ago
Wouldn't bank records from cashed checks suffice? Hard to deny a steady paycheck I would assume.
stimpman 2 years ago
I am sorry Kastanedowski, but principles are principles. This guy is a hero if he is telling the truth. He should write a screenplay and sell it to the major studios for a film. And yes only in a great country like America a man will fight for his principles for eleven year, even if he has to go homeless.
dealmachine 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
u have my sympathy sir.
force135 2 years ago
yes i tried it all over the last 11yrs
billbutler941 2 years ago
I hope you get justice you deserve.
liyazma 2 years ago
thanks, I hope I do too!
billbutler941 2 years ago
This is a very sad case. Bill I am sorry this has happened to you. I heard on the news Chrysler is thinking of filing bankruptcy. Hmm! What goes around comes around! Hang tight Bill God is still in control.
dixiebabiez75 2 years ago
Dixie thanks, I have no words to describe this, blessings to all my friend and my support, one is powerless against this stuff
Best regards
Raul ...
conejolua 2 years ago
This is why I can't believe in God: if he's out there, I hate him! He's a jerk who allows monstrosities to occur to the helpless and innocent.
stopHAARP 2 years ago
tough luck dude....with a BSME you might be able to get a job as a teacher.
lianghaochen 2 years ago
The land of the brave and home of the free...?
praedus 2 years ago 2
i was dismissed
billbutler941 2 years ago
Why did you have to leave the company ?
JulianLR1 2 years ago
Sorry this has happened, Bill. Hopefully this publicity will build up a head of steam. I will alert some friends.
Take care.
johnphilipp 2 years ago
It's pretty sad when corporate America and the judicial system become bed partners...Makes me even more angry about corporate greed & power and how they have successfully bought the courts and the legislators. Thomas Jefferson once wrote, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." He also wrote "all tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Why, Bill, are you being silenced?
ime410 2 years ago
I hope you can work this out bill. I met you at the boxboro home show at the "cobble bluestone" booth. Good luck!!
chlake1 2 years ago
It looks like the only way to fight injustice since our government isn't there for you/us is go by way of "Shopping Wars" Keep the message viral. Best to you.
diggersstory 3 years ago
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XLelouchViBritanniaX 3 years ago
update
3 weeks ago my story went out to 405979 readers thru the care2 website, on my space 859 profile views and if you google corporate blacklisted engineer many websites that I am on show up, yahoo,ask,search also
the fight is getting bigger so PLS TELL ALL YOU FRIENDS TO WATCH MY VIDEO...THANKS BILL
billbutler941 3 years ago
bad luck mate hope you can get back on your feet by the way if your homeless how do you have a computer?
bigmatto 3 years ago
I use the computer at the public library or a friends house
billbutler941 3 years ago
If you did work for those companies - then Social Security records exist that you were employed by those firms.
friedie1jeff 3 years ago 5
Never walk away Bill, never, don't refuse to go quietly in to the night. May your spirit be sustained through this!
rocha39 3 years ago
Have you tried the ACLU?
aicram62 3 years ago
yes I tried it 3 times once in DETROIT and twice in BOSTON, i even went to the one in boston in person no sucess the refered me to the nela national employment lawyers association and they wanted $250 before they woukd even me with me....$250 buys a lot of food and at the end of the hour they quoted they might not be able to help....$250 out the window..
billbutler941 3 years ago
I would never buy a Chrystler anyways. Never bought anything besides a Ford. You could try getting a job outside of your field. All these mexicans that have no right being here find jobs all the time.
euvi85 3 years ago
been there, have done that with no sucess
billbutler941 3 years ago
Bill all I can say is don't pity yourself. There are worse things that what you are living through, after hearing this I will never buy a chrystler car, and I will advise other to do the same. As a future ME Thanks for the advice.
kharmaploy 3 years ago
Well RIGHTS have never stopped Americans from going into anybody else's country , why should it stop anyone from coming here? At least they don't have bombs. And don't bribe the government and alter the elections, and put some leader in place.
aicram62 3 years ago
To quote euvi85's words "All these mexicans that have no right being here find jobs all the time" and Bill you said you've had "no sucess" I am sure you can find a job that low Bill. The thing is no one WANTS to do these kind of jobs because it is very hard labor.
kharmaploy 3 years ago
That type of job would be very hard on a man of your current age, and education for that matter, but if you really needed money there is always a way to live honorobly. Imagine some of those "mexicans that have no right being here" live and die doing very hard labor. Never asking for anything but for the U.S government not to deport them, and even under those conditions illegal immagrants think life in the U.S is better. than Mexico.
kharmaploy 3 years ago
Bill,
You may get better coverage if you show the evidence and records your refer to in your video. You may want to show the proof of your credentials, the proof that you were employed by these companies(pay stubs, parking passes, etc).
Unfortunatley, With the lack of evidence and source's you show in this video, I have trouble believing you. The economic situation with manufacturing is definitley a mess here, but nobody is going to take you serious without proof or evidence.
mrbernes 3 years ago 3
never walk away never I refuse to go quietly in to the night....
billbutler941 3 years ago
That is a crying shame here on this Beautiful Planet. But there are only about 6000 people who are in charge of this World. Once the other billions get together, we can throw them in jail as Isaiah 24:21-24 and Isaiah 23:17-18 talks of so we can have that big party of Isaiah 25. I wish I could do more than just quote words from 1000's of years ago.
forty911 3 years ago
That's hard
I'm really sorry for you
But we got minimum 27 people which wont buy a Chrysler
ZIGICAD 3 years ago
Man I'm sorry for your situation. You got screwed.
You just can't win against big business and the legal system. Unless you have some kind of status, they don't give a shit.
I know its hard, but you can move on.
I won't be buying a Chrysler thats for sure.
maxINaus 3 years ago
I dont belive i America.
prokurtan 3 years ago
wow, they should at least give you a life route.....
willmillion111 3 years ago
Incredibly unfair. Enough to wreck a life.
But don't let it!
There are other options -
perhaps going on the college lecture circuit with your story.
PismoBeach 3 years ago
this reminds me of a freelance photographer that tried to pursue a copyright infringement case on his own. i read most of his account, and the lesson is that the courts abhor people who represent themselves. they dismiss your cases because they are dismissive of you in general.
protonsoup 3 years ago
im sorry about that! :'(
simonrunkar93 3 years ago
oh interesting ...
poltergeistluxx 3 years ago
Oh my goodness, this is terrible. I'm sending this video to the BBC.
bocketroom 3 years ago
cant believe that happened.
p2pjoe 3 years ago
am i getting the idea you got unfair discrimanation at every interview when you moved back? (and why were you dismissed from that place when you were employed?)
danbit5 3 years ago
Oh and post this on digg... Digg may not let it rise too the top but ask all of us to digg it! we will... Hopefully you will get some type of coverage!
rightttt 3 years ago
sorry this happened! I used to sell chrysler.. I just wanted to win the contest... I agree with the below Set up a myspace!
or a Blogger! Geocities is Old News!
rightttt 3 years ago
that changed my mind
charlesazn29 3 years ago
WOOOOW!! This is amazing how things like this can happen. How ones hands can seemed to be so tightly tied, and helpless and will never be able to find justice within the court system! Sometimes justice doesnt always prevail and it's a shame!
bhidden 3 years ago
It's because justice is a sham. Theres only corruption and under the table deals and bribes.
Hence why I want to move to Japan or Canada. It still happens there but to a lesser extent.
I feel sorry for Mr.Butler, i wish there was something I could do but I'm not a US citizen. I'm from the UK.
Companies should never be allowed to get away with that.
Lostfaith1980 3 years ago
Bill, you should make a myspace page and add young people as your friends?
ElysiumEternal 3 years ago
I want to thank each and every one of you that viewed my video bill
billbutler941 3 years ago
I am currently studying to become a mechanical engineer. I have never heard of this type of thing happening especially here in US. There has to be some kind of justice for this type of behavior.
This really changed my opinion about Chrysler corporation.
olegagimbo 3 years ago
The actions of these corporations is disturbing! I'm a freshman at New Mexico State University and I'm working to a degree in mechanical engineering, however the fact that these companies are willing to just blackball people is unscrupulous and unjust. I'm going to look into this case, If I find (to my own satisfaction) misconduct on behalf of these car companies than I'm changing my major to electrical engineering.
Not that it matters, Im going into business I just want a math education anyway
chaoscontrot 3 years ago
if you have your heart set on mechanical engineering continue just do work for chrysler or ant company that has anything to do with them.....
billbutler941 3 years ago
Why no lawyer?
mikedilv 3 years ago
Bill,
You are on the right track. I pray that justice prevails soon or later.
Marcel
American university of Kinshasa (CONGO)
aukvideo 3 years ago
Well Mr. Butler appealed it to Michigan Court of Appeals, Michigan Supreme court and took it to Federal District Court in Detroit, Federal Court of Appeals in Cincinnati and Supreme Court of the United States in Washington D.C. all without a lawyer. They all said no in one form or another.
Ten years passed, Mr. Butler became homeless, and will continue to be. He contacted with countless media for posting his story but unsuccessfully.
livraytheon 3 years ago
I think that Chrysler should step up to the plate and justify the situation and give the Engineer what he wants.You took his means of survival by saying you had no idea who he was.Chrysler corporation is obviously not a company I would work for!!!
BB2525 3 years ago